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Houston, we have a Problem

Hey folks,

This is just a little update to keep you all in the know about some Patreon-related back end stuff - I woke up early today ready to get another post out, but found that one of the recent OFG bundles had been flagged for Community Guidelines purposes. It turns out Sabrina getting everyone to call John 'Daddy' was likely the problem in the bundle, because it was for the following:

'Sexually Gratifying Works - Real or animated works (photo, video, written, audio) featuring sexual activity or role play interactions between family members who are blood relatives or part of the same immediate family are not permitted on Patreon.'

So, the short-term stopgap is that I've edited the flagged Bundle to use a different pet name. The bigger issue is that this Guideline has been expanded since the last time I looked at it and now there are some other stories I need to consider the implications for, and what happens moving forward/what I need to do to get things in line.

I would rather not start a discussion on this issue in the comments, either about the Guideline itself or the possible implicated stories. This is just a notice that I'm doing some serious thinking/planning so that my entire career and platform doesn't implode and I have to go be my own OnlyFans girl or something (I don't think I'd be nearly as successful as my characters :P).

I'll keep you folks informed as I make decisions and of any changes that are happening.

Cheers,

~Break.

Comments

CorruptingPower and I have, in fact, joked about needing to start OnlyFans if Patreon fails. There are some other options we'd likely go to first, it's just funny to think that we could end up there.

BreaktheBar

I'll follow you to whatever platform you decide on if you do swap even if you go to posting on OF 😂 but seriously I very much enjoy your style of writing so as long as you give me plenty of time to swap I'll be there keep up your good work

ReadingRed

sadly it is not that simple.

JC

I’m pretty sure that the moderation isn’t 100% ai because it’s applied in wildly inconsistent ways. This suggests to me that they have a first pass of a computer that flags certain topics, then a human pass that might approve or not depending upon their interpretations of the rules.

Tom

Censureship at it's finest

James Lawson

It's also something that John is likely to say is worse than Daddy, so of course Sabrina would champion it - the brat.

Don Alejo

This sucks for so many reasons. The characters are consenting, and it’s used almost as much for the irony to get a rise out of John as it is for sexual mood setting. The use of “Daddy” & “Mommy” in sex play is so bogged down in the issue of sexualizing children. Similar to “Baby Girl” & “Baby Boy” I can see why the platform is trying to protect itself from getting embroiled in the issue. Then the use of AI moderation is fraught with consequences. It’s been shown that models thus far are more punitive of non-heteronormative behavior than similar content that is heteronormative. If the company is taking the machine’s flag as proof of wrongdoing, it’s going to de-platform creators whose only issue was some algorithm’s opinion. Trying to seek another platform takes energy and will cost creators like Break subs because the platform is easy (if obnoxious) to use. And having one more website to pay will be enough to prevent subs from following the creator if they move. If you do move, give us time to switch over.

J Bell

I feel like I looked at it once a looong time ago, so it might be worth another look just in case. It'll go back on the idea list!

BreaktheBar

Another author was talking about not posting the Story itself as plain readable Text bc that is easier to scan than an attached downloadable pdf. But they changed a whole lot also about mc in general back in march i can shoot you an excerpt if you want. *edited cuz f***german autocorrect

Mick Moofro

I pay to follow another author who uses Substack rather than Patreon. It might be worth looking at their terms of service to see if they would allow you to publish your content without restrictions.

D375

This is a possibility, but realistically if they get reported by someone and Patreon looks into it the creator is still at risk if their content is outside ToS even if it's hosted somewhere else. It's certainly a step removed from getting flagged by AI though. I'll keep this idea in my back pocket for now!

BreaktheBar

Well I'll sub to that one but I won't like it.

SovietDegendays

Writing anything adult oriented and trying to get backing is a nightmare at times.

Tom

It also has a "fashionable" connotation that might not always be correct (at least according to m-w and wiktionary)

HN

Another content creator has a link to his own website and so there is nothing of his stories on the Patreon platform - rather the link and connectivity works through Patreon. Could be something to explore?

Salvo

I don't envy you having to keep up with the constantly shifting ToS. Here or elsewhere, if I can find you I'll back you.

Grayghost

Yeah, but that's also the age the characters are.

Tumakhunter

FoF dodged the bullet there with your retcon back in the early chapters. QT:NW should be fine too as no family members are involved with each other. I honestly can't think of any of your work I've read recently that would be in violation...

Mehntal1st

It is, but if it gets past the censorship gods, so be it!

Jeffrey Sutyla

That might be where I land on for OFG. It's so GenZ/Gen Alpha though!

BreaktheBar

I have seen on a number of platforms, OF included, that people are using "Zaddy" in place of "Daddy". Just a thought, Break

Jeffrey Sutyla

So what you're saying is... feet pics for the win? Seriously that sucks though, I know that derails a lot and leaves a mountain of edits.

Unimandrew

Weird. It used to be common for wives to call their husband daddy after their first child was born.

RadAsha Nightstrider

Well that's a bummer. Thanks for lettin us know Break.

Trav

Dude, just intern at a law firm and hijack the Onlyfans of one of the other interns. You literally have the blueprint for what to do here, just follow it step by step.

Henritran

Patreon is becoming worse and worse... perhaps there are alternative platforms you could use instead?

Darkflint

Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a mammoth task for you.

Shane S

On the other hand it means that the original pdfs that we already have will get an increased vintage value in 30 years or so 😏

ThL

🤦‍♂️

ThL


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