經過一番研究之後,關於未來計畫…/After done some research, about future plan...
Added 2021-03-19 18:24:32 +0000 UTC
嗨各位,最近我一直都在研究Patreon、Fanbox、Subscrib star這三個平台,來分享一下我的調查結果…
[Patreon]
平台抽成:合計約20%(最高)
馬賽克需求:無
禁止內容:強暴、酷刑、獵奇、獸交、催眠…etc
介面與功能:介面乾淨,功能完善
平台知名度:高
支援付款方式:Paypal、信用卡VISA卡
支援收款方式:Paypal、Payoneer
總結:
雖然Patreon禁止項目洋洋灑灑…但其實出乎意料之外的,似乎跟我相性很合🤔。
經過一番研究,我終於大致摸清了Patreon對於規範的尺度,總之「強暴」是不行的,「Irony」之所以中槍,就是因為女主角瑠奈的第一次是被強上的,不管過程多唯美溫和,總之明顯的強暴就是不行。
然而,「約定」、「綾香的日記」、「脅迫筆記本」等等,雖然明顯較為黑暗,卻沒問題,只要不是「強暴」,儘管依然是違反道德的,利用各種方式逼人就範,只要女方在分析利害關係之後最終選擇的是妥協,就不在「非自願性行為」的範疇,之後要怎麼凌虐女主角都可以。
事實上我本來就對強暴沒什麼興趣,我更喜歡精神上的凌辱而非肉體上的,利用卑鄙下流的方式強迫徵得女性的同意後侵犯才更有征服感,就這點而言,我跟Patreon居然莫名的達成了共識(Patreon表示:並沒有不要瞎掰好嗎)
總結來說,和其他獵奇繪師不同,我要繼續混Patreon也還是做得到的,仍然可以產出符合你們口味的作品,至少類似「約定」系列的題材都沒問題,雖然規定很多感覺綁手綁腳,但其實換個角度想,在這樣的環境下摸索尺度、挑戰極限,似乎也是挺有挑戰性挺有樂趣的:^)?
[Pixiv Fanbox]
平台抽成:合計約13%
馬賽克需求:性器官必需馬賽克
禁止內容:基本無禁止,甚至獵奇都可以
介面與功能:介面乾淨,功能較少,但尚可接受
平台知名度:高
支援付款方式:Paypal、信用卡VISA卡、日本境內超商支付
支援收款方式:日本境內銀行帳戶、Paypal
總結:
Pixiv Fanbox對於性器官馬賽克的嚴謹態度到了令人驚奇的程度,我寫過信問官方好幾次,以各種形式的方式私下將無馬賽克版本流出給粉絲都不行,就算放在別的網站,不提供網址只提供密碼這樣也不行,雖然我很懷疑他們到底會不會去執行的這麼徹底,但官方態度如此的話我也打算當個守法公民,就只放馬賽克版了。
其實性器官馬賽克有無對我個人來說不是很重要,畢竟也就只佔畫面的那一小部分,貼個小黑條意思意思一下就能過關,在畫面上被審查總比在故事上被審查好,但應該有人對馬賽克深惡痛絕的,是嗎?
[Subscribe Star Adult]
平台抽成:合計約10%(最低)
馬賽克需求:無
禁止內容:基本無禁止,甚至獵奇都可以
介面與功能:介面略差,功能最少,
平台知名度:低
支援付款方式:只有信用卡VISA卡
支援收款方式:美國境內銀行帳戶、境外帳戶(IBAN、Swift code)
總結:
Subscribe star adult的自由度是三者中最高的,內容不限制也不用馬賽克,甚至連抽成都最少。
但是…他的使用者介面,實在有點…
就算退一步接受他的介面,Subscribe star的知名度也很低,對於新訂閱者來說自己是否有聽說過這個平台還是會高度影響到訂閱意願的。
功能上基本只有發網誌的功能,不能投票,網站的圖片閱讀器無法進行縮放。
雖然從實際考量方面Subscribe star或許是最好的,但我總覺得很抗拒使用它:^(…
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以上總結,各有各的好壞,不管怎麼選擇都註定會犧牲一點東西,大家覺得如何呢?
在了解了各項優劣之後,再來做一次投票吧!雖然仍然只能做為參考:^),畢竟要搬平台還有一件很重要的事—金流,目前除了Patreon收款方式我已經確定可行,其他都還得經過測試,最壞情況是忙了半天結果收不到錢:^P。

Hi y'all, recently I have been studying the three platforms of Patreon, Fanbox, and Subscrib star, here to share my investigate results...
[Patreon]
Platform fee: about 20% in total (the highest)
Censorship : none
Prohibited content: rape, torture, guro, bestiality, hypnosis...etc
Interface and function: the interface is clean and the function is perfect
Platform popularity: high
Support payment methods: Paypal, credit card VISA card
Support payout methods: Paypal, Payoneer
to sum up:
Although Patreon prohibits a lot of content...but actually, it seems to be very compatible with me🤔.
After some research, I finally figured out Patreon’s standard. In short, “rape” is not acceptable. The reason why “Irony” was shot is because heroine Runa was raped for the first time, no matter how beautiful the process is. anyway, an obvious rape is not allowed.
However, "Promises", "Ayaka's Diary", "Blackmail note", etc., which is obviously darker, but is safe. As long as they are not "rape", although it's still against morality, use various methods to force female to submit. As long as the girls after analyzing the situation, the final choice is to compromise, it will not in the category of "non consensual sex," and then you can abuse the heroine any way you want.
In fact, I have no interest in rape at all. I prefer mental abuse rather than physical abuse. By using vile methods to force girls consent will feel more conquest. In that regard, me and Patreon ironically reached a consensus (Patreon : That's not true, you sick fuck.)
So, unlike other guro artist, I can still live with Patreon well, can still produce works that meet you guys tastes. At least themes similar to the "Promise" series are fine, although there are still many rules to tie me up. but think about it from another angle. it's quite challenging and fun to test the system's limit in such an environment :^)?
[Pixiv Fanbox]
Platform fee: about 13% in total
Censorship : genital must be censored
Prohibited content: basically no prohibition, even guro
Interface and function: The interface is clean, with fewer functions, but acceptable
Platform popularity: high
Support payment methods: Paypal, credit card VISA card, and japanese supermarket payment
Support payout methods: bank account in Japan, Paypal
to sum up:
Pixiv Fanbox’s strict attitude towards genital censorship is incredible. I have written to the official several times. It’s not allow to privately send the uncensored version to fans in anyways. Even if it’s on another website, doesn’t provide a URL just to provide a password is still not allowed. Although I doubt that they will implement it so thoroughly, if the official attitude is like this, I also intend to be a law-abiding citizen, so I will only release the censored version.
In fact, personally, genital censored or not is not very important. After all, it only occupies a small part of the picture. It's better to be censored on the picture than on the story, by putting a small black bar to it will do. But someone should hate censorship, right?
[Subscribe Star Adult]
Platform fee: about 10% in total (minimum)
Censorship : none
Prohibited content: basically no prohibition, even guro
Interface and function: The interface is slightly worse, the function is the least
Platform popularity: low
Support payment method: only credit card VISA card
Support payout methods: U.S. bank account, other country bank account (IBAN, Swift code)
to sum up:
The degree of freedom of Subscribe star adult is the highest among the three. The content is not limited or censored, and even the least fee.
But... it's user interface is really a bit...
Even if accept it's interface, the popularity of Subscribe star is also kind of low. For new subscribers, whether they have heard of this platform will still highly affect their willingness to subscribe.
In terms of function, it basically only has the function like blogs, no voting, and the image reader of the website have no zoom function.
Although Subscribe star may be the best in terms of practical considerations, I always feel very resistant to using it :^(…
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In conclusion, each has its own advantages and disadvantages. No matter how we choose, it's destined to sacrifice something.
What do you think? After understanding the pros and cons of each them, let's vote again! Although it's still only for reference :^), after all, there is another very important thing to move the platform-payout method. For now, except for the Patreon payout method I have confirmed that it is available for me. Others have to be tested. The worst case is after all the busy work, turned out that no money can be received :^P.
Comments
Oh I see, Subscribe star using a html method to do all the function, however doesn't work for me somehow, I'll figured it out if I decide to move on it :^).
2021-03-21 18:00:03 +0000 UTCFellatrix (porn artist) uses polls within subscribestar somehow
kisuketenshii
2021-03-21 00:21:41 +0000 UTCMaybe Subscribestar have poll but Subscribestar adult doesn't? or they link it on another site like google form, I can't see it in my create post function :^|
2021-03-20 22:06:31 +0000 UTCI've seen polls on Subscribestar
kisuketenshii
2021-03-20 21:31:18 +0000 UTC