Failure Frame Episode 3 Live Reaction (FULL)
Added 2024-07-18 19:25:44 +0000 UTCidc what people say this is my kind of isekai and I loved the structure of this episode so much! also piggymaru is the cutest name EVER
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Yeah, but would you rather have 18 hundred dollar bills or 1500 fives?
Gun Bunny
2024-07-24 01:00:05 +0000 UTCAsagi ? I like her. She's straightforward and hates etiquette. Her reasonning is not bad either.
groudonvert
2024-07-19 23:38:47 +0000 UTCWell you're right, this story uses game's mechanic for a few things and some stuffs aren't (because it's not possible to make them work in a game xD ). Vicius explained that in episode 1 that debiliting abilities are worthless, because of a low chance to work on low level enemes and their short duration. The world works like you said... but what makes this spells OP is Touka's Unique Skill (add-status effect). Every spells he casts works 100% of the time with great duration. There is some downsides to his unique skill that is not related to game though : He has to say his spell aloud, his spells have a range, he needs to see the enemy. Besides that, there is some game where Status effect have a 100% chance to inflict with barely any cost. Final Fantasy XIII-2 has this with its monsters. About the Onion Knight, the Iron Giant justifies the usage of high level team (including the Onion Knight). Of course Vicious doesn't intend them to survive this dungeon. The side-effect of Touka's survival is that he gains XP. His classmates who fight weak monsters don't level up as much as he did.
groudonvert
2024-07-19 23:28:07 +0000 UTCI was talking about leveling in context of actual gaming mechanics and implementation, not for the implementation in the story. Though even for the story purpose, it's kinda bollocks. The MC was level 1 and he took down monsters with levels in hundreds with a single low level paralyze and a single low level poison. In an actual game you'd be able to paralyze the monsters max like a few seconds. And even in games where poison is relatively strong, 1 poison cast alone is almost never enough to kill enemies before it runs out. Though usually poison is pretty useless, but it is effective against players I guess. Leveling an Onion Knight in FF3 is something you do late game. And you don't gain an insane amount of levels for 1 kill. It's a useless class until you're basically leveling to the max, at which point all bosses in the game are already a joke as well no matter the job class you're using. It's an interesting isekai so far and I'm enjoying it, but I'm still gonna criticise where it's due. The leveling system makes no sense. And the goddess doesn't throw them into the dungeon to level them up. She throws them into the dungeon to dispose of them. To kill them indirectly, without dirtying her own hands. She doesn't expect anyone she throws into that dungeon to survive.
OnePieceMan
2024-07-19 20:12:32 +0000 UTCE-Class heroes have no stats and don't have skills that allow them to level up quickly. So they're a pain in the ass to level up, that's why the Goddess throw them in a dungeon with monsters strong enough to kill the Dark Hero, told to be the strongest of all (so basically endgame dungeon or even ultimate dungeon full with high level monsters). We also know that their stats are calculated by their level multiplied by their base stats... and we also saw that Touka would really high stats to be able to pierce this enemies skin with a knife. All of this to say, the levels don't matter as much, it's their base stats that matter. If the S-Classes have like 100 in base stats, at level 18 they would have 1800, not far from Touka's stats. Basically, the author created an extremely simple way of level-up to justify that a low-level hero (common in many RPGs) can be extremely strong if given time. If we take the example of the Onion Knight in Final Fantasy 3 (the basic job), it's an extremely weak job, but if you level-up to 90, it becomes very strong (and actually the best job in the game). it's the same here.
groudonvert
2024-07-19 17:20:41 +0000 UTCThe level doesn't mean anything, it's their stats that matter. Their base stats are multiplied by their levels, so if Takuto has a base stats of 100 in each stats, at level 18 he would have 1800 (for example).
groudonvert
2024-07-19 17:13:51 +0000 UTCone of the best seasons... too many good fast food isekais.... :) Bye Bye Earth is also wild (but more fantasy than isekai)
Kakyou
2024-07-19 16:27:44 +0000 UTCThat leader girl I want to see die so badly great episode can't wait for the next episode
Golden Angel1517
2024-07-19 14:45:22 +0000 UTCThat twintail girl is fake Estelle. The real Estelle (from Trails in the Sky) would eff them all up with her stick. Also, the protagonist leveling so fast does make no sense. Very few games allow players to go above level 100 and even fewer let them go into the thousands. And there's no way beginner level 1 spells and skills can take care of endgame/bonus dungeon enemies just like that. I've played a lot of JRPG's and the stuff we see in isekai with protagonists becoming OP at the start the way they do is practically unheard of in games, outside of actual glitch usage (which they don't since they don't manipulate the actual code of the programming). I can assure you that as a longtime gamer who is extremely experienced in JRPG's, isekai leveling is usually complete and utter nonsense and in no way reflects actual leveling in JRPG's, not even power leveling. Their nonsense equals basically using game shark codes or cheat trainers (basically PC applications where you can adjust various values in the game. Usually makes it easy for infinite health, invincibility, infinite ammo, easy max level, etc). And this is also why I appreciate it more if a writer who is an actual gamer properly implements game mechanics in to a leveling and/or skill development system. Like in Shangri-La Frontier.
OnePieceMan
2024-07-19 08:39:04 +0000 UTCThis season is much better than it looked going in.
Gun Bunny
2024-07-19 03:12:10 +0000 UTCIs nobody else picking up on the fact that Fratbro McKegstand was stoked to be hitting like level 18 when our boy is well north of 1500? The power differential is gonna be hilarious when they reunite, since he'll likely be murdering around 95% of his class. Only ones surviving are the ones who tried or at least wanted to stand up for him, *maybe* Fratbro too, depends on how he reacts. Everyone else is so ham-fistedly evil it's jarring.
Gun Bunny
2024-07-19 03:11:43 +0000 UTCSlime pet named "Piggymaru" ... Anime of the season ... no matter what anyone says ... everything else is now either 2nd or lower.
Sleepfishl
2024-07-18 22:41:47 +0000 UTCI'm proud of myself to find it the first time I watched the episode, because it's a hell to find it back lol There's a info dump moment in the episode that explains A LOT how this world works : the guys Touka killed were Otherworlders's descendants.
groudonvert
2024-07-18 21:37:53 +0000 UTC1. Tower of God 2. Failure Frame 3. Alya feelings in Russian Plenty of others but wow this is a great season IMO 👍
DurgalSenpai
2024-07-18 21:14:38 +0000 UTCPiggymaru is the best
GoC
2024-07-18 21:04:19 +0000 UTC
