True Detective 1x8 Uncut Reaction
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Sorry for the late response. Yeah I do agree. I believe the writers had that in mind when creating this multi layered story. It is indeed beyond philosophy and even if it isn't real, that mystic part was perfectly included to widen that already dark and obscure reality. That something darker could exist, and all those rituals and sacrifices could have more meaning. It added so much gravitas to an already thrilling story. I've always hoped for a continuity with these two, but I'm good with what I got. But if our duo would ever return, it should be with the same team of those talented people with the same purpose and vibe of the first season. Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us. If not, well we have this one to rewatch over and over again. Time is indeed a flat circle Cheers!
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-22 23:57:34 +0000 UTCYou'd be surprised what people can turn a blind eye to when it comes to "not shaming the family name". It's disgusting but that's how people think. If what their family member is doing gets out, it not only gives that person a bad name but anyone who shares that name a bad name. So to preserve their own reputation, they'll keep all kinds of secrets.
Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
2024-08-21 16:01:12 +0000 UTCOne of the cops watching him was a Childress??? Oh!! I didn't catch that!! Thank you!
ArcAngel
2024-08-21 09:29:52 +0000 UTCTrue detective season 1 is by far the best season and I really like the opening theme but I like the opening theme of season 2 even more. Check it out if you're not gonna react to season 2. It's really cool. Loved your true detective reaction guys and looking forward to band of brothers (speaking of opening themes OMG).
Dasypodidae
2024-08-21 07:47:24 +0000 UTCWhile I found the aspects of the crime horrifying and the Childress to be mortifying, this was well written. The interactions between Marty and Rust were amazing. Everything they went through would try any partnership,,marriage, friendship. I love that Rust pointed out that the light is winning. I think about a star millions of miles away that we can still see here despite the vast darkness it must shine through. Also, a single candle in a dark room holds the center of attention. As a human who does believe in God, I know I am required to shine my light before others to remind them there is always hope.
Lyn Hurst
2024-08-20 23:18:05 +0000 UTCEntirely possible! There's a practical reason why I'm laying down all this Carcosa lore, tho. When you have a moment, I've explained the potential 'why' of it all in my very last comment (just wrote it approximately 2-3 hours ago). I'd love to know your thoughts! 😇
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 21:50:07 +0000 UTCThere are writings which predate 'The King in Yellow' about Carcosa. Although 'the King in Yellow' is the most obvious source material -- so obvious, in fact, that it's kinda strange our heroes never mention it...right? A simple Google search would have immediately found at LEAST that book. It makes you wonder why such a brilliantly written show would never mention this meaningful piece of evidence which gives great insight into the cult. Either the show runners intend not to refer to 'The King in Yellow' because they don't want to relegate the subject matter into the realm of fiction (because in one way or another, the show is intentionally adding to the Carcosa lore)...or.... just maaaybe they are saving this angle to anchor a story for a potential future season which involves the return of Rust and Marty? If you get a chance, check out my last comment below (way below)...would love to hear your thoughts! 😇
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 21:24:22 +0000 UTCThey did mention (when interviewing the woman in the care home about the green house paint) that Eroll Childress's father "gave him those scars" on his face. Which is a strange thing to say...as if it was intentional. You would expect something like "gave him those scars in a terrible barbecue mishap" or something. But nope!
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 20:42:31 +0000 UTCYeah I understand what you're saying. But I believe it's only because Rust knew about the meaning of it all and that's where his mind led him to, at the right moment and place.
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-20 20:03:58 +0000 UTCIt's so interesting that Rust sees the portal...exactly where it should be.
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 19:59:37 +0000 UTCMy pleasure! Thank you so much for sharing the potential rabbit hole with me! 😂 Its really interesting to rewatch the show with the Carcosa lore potential unlocked in your mind...you won't believe how many big meatballs they drop on us in the show. There's way more than I've mentioned here. Once you note ALL the things (which honestly I clock some additional hint every time I rewatch it ...so really I have no clue how many hints there are in total) it's becomes obvious that this train of thought is very intentional. When you have a chance, check out the last comment I just added because I'd love to hear your thoughts (its kinda long...sorry!). 😇
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 19:48:21 +0000 UTCPlease see my next comment below as it relates back to your comment. 😇
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 19:34:33 +0000 UTCI think everyone who loves this show would agree it is brilliantly written. Everyone would agree that this show is 100% intentional in every moment, every image, every word -- from the opening credits to the last image of the stars. Questions of philosophy are always debatable as are questions of mysticism. But in this show, the issues of philosophy and mysticism are included intentionally. We are also very intentionally left, at the end of this show, with more unsolved questions...in that way, this show is challenging us to ponder them. But the reason I've taken so much time to describe the potential mysticism aspects underlying this story is not about pondering whether it's real or unreal. It's about understanding the motivation behind the cult in order to pursue other murderers and to be wary of the cult resurfacing. Because, if we are to imagine what transpires after the final credits roll, any hope of pursuing the remaining cult members in this show would likely hinge on understanding what they believed -- their motivation. After getting to know Rust and Marty as we have, after they recover from their wounds both physically and emotionally, do I believe they would stop caring about catching the other predators? No. No way. Rust worked on this case for 10 years without pay. Let that sink in (that's obsessive dedication). In short, I've taken the time to lay out these issues of mysticism not only to better understand the story we have just seen, but also to delineate a potential framework for a Rust and Marty comeback. Because I'm having hope that the light IS winning (😂). Even though this show is perfect in so many ways, I can see a path to a perfect follow-up -- a continuation, a conclusion that we didn't even know we needed until we see it. Will it happen? I dunno. But I see the potential framework built into the story we were given. All those hints, while cryptic, were meaningful and intentional. One can only hope we will get another Rust&Marty team-up -- and even then, the show runners would have a giant whopper of expectation to fulfill. The very idea is daunting. But I'm hoping they can meet the challenge, albeit extremely fraught, and blow our minds one more time. Here's to hoping! Cheers! And BIG thank you, Spartan and Pudgy, for the extremely thoughtful and layered reaction. It was brilliant! You guys have great minds!!
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 19:33:01 +0000 UTCAbsolutely! When I first watched this, I was completely satisfied with the real world story, the beautiful character arcs, etc. And then I watched again and wondered, "why did Rust hallucinate A portal in the stars at that moment? And why is the long last shot of the stars?". The rabbit hole of discovery since then has been so fun and interesting. It blew my mind just to learn that the constellations shown at the end are those associated with the star clusters surrounding the location of the 'real' Carcosa! Honestly, I think the writers are absolutely brilliant to create something which exists so well on multiple levels -- to the point that, upon multiple viewings, the evidence of all perspectives gets deeper and deeper. Such a fantastic mystery with just enough 'world behind the world' to keep the slueth-minded people wondering forever and a perfect real world story for those who are satisfied with that explanation. It's so great.
ArcAngel
2024-08-20 18:05:23 +0000 UTCI do like to think the show is grounded as it was intended to be. But I love the implications of something superior and of other worlds. That all of their beliefs, legends and tales could actually be real, somewhere beyond this time and space. BTW my jaw dropped with all your comments, you know your stuff really well. Thanks for sharing!
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-19 21:28:00 +0000 UTCDamn I never thought of that. Maybe she was indeed exposed or other kids were, and word spread. I've watched this show at least 6 times and there's always so much more to uncover.
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-19 21:18:49 +0000 UTCIt’s subject to debate, of course. But, the snippets of philosophy we get from Rust, Errol, Reggie, Dewall, et cetera, I think, pose generally as components from writings by Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. So, plenty of further reading there, if anybody’s interested. As for the riddles, weird stuff, and bits of mysticism, my take on it is summed up by Charlie Skinner in The Newsroom S3E4: “Cryptic is generally what people are when they’re trying to pretend they possess supernatural powers.” Fantastic reactions from you both! Thanks.
Matt van der Harten
2024-08-19 15:06:11 +0000 UTCBut he mows lawns in a SPIRAL. 😂
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 14:50:00 +0000 UTCThat's a good point actually... Is there no DNA to be gathered in the ritual killing area of the Carcosa complex, too? Actually I don't know how you extract microscopic DNA from dirt tho...
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 14:41:59 +0000 UTCExcept we definitely know there is a group of people killing ... We've seen the tape...and we have heard from people like Johnny-joanie about the group of men with animal masks. We also know that Dewal and Reggie Ledoux were involved in murders before the boys killed them in 1995. We know from testimony that Ledoux was involved in ritual killing with others. Although our hero's didn't get everyone, they did bring down some major components besides just Errol (most importantly, Tuttle -- even though they didn't personally kill Tuttle, Rust's discoveries in Tuttle's house got him killed one way or another). But, all that said, I was hoping -- even anticipating -- Marty and Rust potentially returning to deal with more of the mess. Don't think that's gonna happen now, tho. Unfortunately.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 14:05:10 +0000 UTCI loved the show for its dynamic between the two leads and their individual storylines, but the actual plot was uninteresting and honestly a let down. From that first episode this show promises a lot in terms of its core plotline, and delivers a guy who mows lawns and rapes his mentally-delayed sister. Shows like Mindhunter can mythologise a killer really well while keeping them 'real', but I felt like this season almost misleads the viewer by making this out to be some conspiracy or something to that affect, and it just isn't. It also just doesn't bother making the killer feel like a relevant 'threat' episode to episode, so by the end of the season personally I had no reaction whatsoever to the catching of the killer, or his reveal. Definitely a mixed bag for me, it was nice to hear where you have similar thoughts and where thigns diverge, glad you enjoyed it overall!
Leo
2024-08-19 09:23:39 +0000 UTCRustin Spencer Cohle contains the words "True Holiness". All Hail King Rust! 😂
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 07:25:46 +0000 UTCChildress's father (the old dead man tied down in the shed) is like a metaphor for the whole theme of the show, suffering leads to misanthropy and misanthropy leads to suffering. Childress was abused in some way and ended up abusing not only his abuser, but innocents as well. It's an evil spiral, the 'flat circle of time', that says it doesn't matter what you do in life because everything that you choose not to do will be done anyway by someone, somewhere, sometime. It's kind of a zoomed out view of humanity and the world, where you have become desensitised to individual suffering, and only think about the totality of things. Cohle thinks he's a genius when he explains this view in the earlier episodes, and so do we, but this view is exactly the one that's repeated by the villains of the story the entire time to justify their actions, or rather to mock the idea that an action has to be justified at all. By the end, Cohle learns that pessimism is the world's disease, with his amazing last scene with Marty. I still think about it even years after I saw the show the first time. Definitely understand what you mean by perfect imperfection, I was wondering if I should warn about that but decided it was probably in spoiler territory! I think the only reason the ending ends up working is that the show has always been about Rust and Marty, their personalities and views and flaws, and the case was just their backdrop.
Sakonthos
2024-08-19 07:17:47 +0000 UTCRust's arc is beautiful!
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 07:08:55 +0000 UTCAgree!
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 07:08:07 +0000 UTC(Slow clap) Bravo! Loved your recap of the entire story at the end. Both of you basically felt exactly how I did right after watching it. Some things I really wish we could have had answers on, but I think the purpose of this show was more so a character study of these two detectives and their relationship together.
Paul De'Armond
2024-08-19 07:06:42 +0000 UTCOr Errol was kept secret on purpose? We also learned from the Childress housekeeper that Errol's father was the one who burned his face. Which is weird. Errol seems to be the person acting as the 'priest' in these rituals, as the earthly version of Carcosa has become his domain. So, as you were saying, I think Rust and Marty did do some damage to the cult by exposing it, exposing their ritual grounds, neutralizing a major player on accident (Tuttle) and taking out their priest-like figure in Errol. Plus, taking out Reggie and Dewal probably helped a little in the end...since Reggie was their best source for the drugs they used on the victims.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 07:06:03 +0000 UTCOne thing I’m curious about after the second rewatch is that all the killings and children and woman that are involved, there wasn’t actually anything sexual about it right? It seems on the tapes they watch and Dora Lange tied up naked that they were rapists almost but then there would’ve been dna? That was never talked about I don’t think
Liam Usery
2024-08-19 06:39:50 +0000 UTCThe show runners, when asked about "supernatural" elements have said such things were not intended. But the practice of rituals by "believers" isn't supernatural. Others have also argued, some sort of extra dimensional alien aspect isn't "supernatural" either. One could argue, and I think argue convincingly, it is strange that none of the established literature about The Yellow King, Carcosa, etc., is ever mentioned in the show. This show is so brilliantly written... how is it that neither Rust nor Marty ever mention any of the literature considering a simple Google search for "yellow king" would find it? The fact that relatively well known literature which exactly names the Yellow King and Carcosa (which are key concepts in the investigation) is never mentioned, to me, indicates that the writers intended for this story to become part of the Yellow King/Carcosa lore -- in one way or another. The omission is otherwise too glaring.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 06:34:44 +0000 UTCOne last awesome Rust/Marty exchange in the car... Rust describes humans as "sentient meat" ...Marty responds with "what's scented meat" ? Which is hilarious because of the running joke about Rust's sense of smell/nose. Although for once Marty wasn't sneering at Rust ...he almost seemed like he was trying to understand. Which was kinda sweet...
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 05:26:10 +0000 UTCBtw, in these cursory explanations, im just trying to distill a metric butt load of cosmic horror information into a manageable blurb. There's a lot of literature on this subject, the details of which would vary depending on the source.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 05:20:15 +0000 UTCI hate when this season ends! Every time I watch it! Did you watch it the first time, thinking the next season would pick up where season one left off? Cuz I did! Or rather, I assumed the story would continue because we knew there were more bad guys left running loose, completely un-domed! When I heard the next season was new actors, new story...oh man...I think I mighta cried a little??? 😂
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 05:14:34 +0000 UTCAnother interesting thing to ponder...why did Marty's oldest daughter do that weird thing with her barbies? Why did she draw those pictures (did you see the face on the guy in the last drawing??! It looks like a mask or maybe Erolls gross face??). They never discuss where she would get those ideas. It's interesting because we know there were other children (johnny-joanie, the girl who reported the green-eared spaghetti monster) who had some exposure to these creeps but weren't killed. Has she been exposed somehow or witnessed something?
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 05:00:41 +0000 UTCAlso, the King in Yellow (in the story from the 1800s) was asked to "Take off his mask" (echoing what Eroll Childress says to Rust)
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 04:39:53 +0000 UTCOne more crazy bit of info to consider... for whatever it's worth...the hole in the building roof (where Rust 'hallucinates') appears almost exactly where the star Aldebaran and the Hyades star cluster are, two celestial objects mentioned in The King in Yellow, by Rob Chambers. At the end of the show, we see the same two constellations, orion and taurus, in this picture, right before the credits.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 04:37:53 +0000 UTCWe do know that other participants (from the diary of Dora lange, from the testimony of Childress family's housekeeper, etc) that other people are repeating these beliefs. Including Reggie Ledoux and pals. Whether we give any credibility to the actual Carcosa thing, it seems the participants in these rituals do believe. Errol Childress is definitely not the only believer.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 04:32:28 +0000 UTCSorry, I should have also mentioned, re: the Carcosa rituals, the lore would suggest that to activate/access the portal, the ritual must incorporate some sort of horrific violence or some other twisted act. (FYI: I'm trying to distill a metric butt load of relevant cosmic horror into a manageable blurb -- there are many sources in which details vary...but this fits both enough lore and the details of our story). The Tuttle schools would be an excellent source of victims for the twisted ritual sacrifices and whatnot. The idea we are being led to discover involves certain old families who are participating in these rituals in exchange for power and wealth (Tuttle family, Childress family, etc.) thus they would need a supply of victims over many years. Again, this would be true whether or not we believe in the idea of Carcosa as "real". Also, it would explain why the sacrificial victims have had massive amounts of hallucinogens in their systems -- because part of the effectiveness of the ritual would be effectively communing with Carcosa which is supposed to be beyond the scope of a sane, normal mind. Again, this is true whether or not you believe the Carcosa idea is actually real. However, if you think perhaps there is something to the Carcosa theory, it also explains why Rust can see the portal without being dosed with drugs and/or without being insane like Errol Childress. It's also mentioned in some sources that those individuals who are somehow associated with the Yellow King bear the Yellow Sign. Although we don't hear that term used here, we do have the spiral sign branded or tattooed on people linked to this cult (reminiscent of the swirling portal Rust sees...or hallucinates)...except the tattoos are real...
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 04:16:18 +0000 UTCWhat's beautiful about the writing too is it almost puts you into a detective position yourself. On rewatches especially in the beginning episodes you start to pick up clues that Marty and Rust themselves haven't picked up yet. An example later on is the two jail cops who were watching Guy Francis (suicided), their surnames are briefly mentioned- one is Childress
J Lawrence
2024-08-19 03:43:44 +0000 UTCAlso, re: the legend of Carcosa, the idea is that if humans (through ritual) could access Carcosa, the participants in the ritual are granted power and influence. Whether you want to believe there is something really happening or not, the participants in the ritual clearly do believe in Carcosa and the rituals. So, any way you slice it, this is not a case of 'devil worship' in the Christian sense. We know from multiple players that they believed in Carcosa, the yellow king, time is a flat circle, etc. It's also interesting that Rust "hallucinated" a portal to the stars (which we plainly see)...exactly at the position a portal would be if this idea were true. Another huge 'coincidence'...if none of the Carcosa stuff is true.
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 02:54:34 +0000 UTCIt's always so sad to watch this season and reach the end, knowing there is no more Marty and Rust to see. Truly one of the best single seasons of TV ever. As others have said, some time down the road you should watch it again and you'll pick up a lot more details. The show is packed full of them, but you just get hints here and there. It's a complicated mystery, and our own confusion mirrors that of the detectives working such a weird case with few tangible clues.
John Neiberger
2024-08-19 02:27:15 +0000 UTCThe Yellow King and Carcosa references in the show are pulled directly from Robert Chambers book "The King in Yellow" which is a story about a strange play that causes people who read it to go mad. The contents are never fully revealed, but the play is about a city in a faraway place, perhaps outside reality, called Carcosa, which is said to reside under black stars. The city is ruled by Hastur, the King in Yellow, which is some kind of powerful entity, similar to the "Old Gods" from the Lovecraft mythos like Cthulu. The creator of this season took a lot of influence from this story, as well as mixing it with hoodoo and voodoo beliefs from southern Louisiana to make the cult featured in this season. It's never explicitly explained because the story doesn't really require it, it's enough to understand that these people are members of some strange cult, and the references are still there for anyone that's familiar with the book or the lore around it. Now, this next part is just speculation, but after rewatching the series multiple times, my best approximation of the beliefs of Errol Childress are as follows. He believes in the Yellow King, some kind of being that he thinks exists beyond the "flat circle" of time and our reality, mentioned by Ledoux and Rust. He believes that by committing these murders and offering these people to the Yellow King, he can somehow ascend past death and escape the cycle that we as humans are caught in. That's why he turned that big maze where he took his victims into his own "Carcosa", at the center of which he made an Idol the Yellow King, probably an altar where he killed them. Obviously he's totally nuts, and there's no way to know if these are all the beliefs of the cult, or just his own brand of it, but obviously the practice of abduction and sacrifice run deep in the whole family. Just a great creepy aesthetic to add to your shows serial killer, and I applaud the writers for adding a supernatural undertone to the villain of this story while still keeping the show very grounded. Rust is a goated character, and Marty is great in his own ways. Amazing season of television.
Kelschman
2024-08-19 02:22:53 +0000 UTCSome good things to ponder tho: All the bad guys we encounter have a weird reaction to Rust. Dewal , as soon as he encounters Rust, clearly feels threatened and says Rust has a shadow on him, etc., Reggie Ledoux says he knew Rust was coming and calls him the 'black star', Errol Childress even before Marty and Rust arrive is talking about his pending ascension (to his girlfriend/sister 😫) and when he sees Rust keeps calling him "little Priest". The legend of Carcosa is that Carcosa is on an alien planet in another dimension (there is a book from the 1800s about it called " The King in Yellow" and tons of other relevant literature). The legend is, if a human glimpses carcosa (or even certain writings about Carcosa) it drives them mad. Therefore, the 'priest' of the ceremonies which would connect with Carcosa would end up mad (hence Eroll Childress crazy personality).
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 02:18:40 +0000 UTCThe show runners expected most people to accept the grounded real world story which 100% is potentially all there is, but there are implications that there is more to it. I don't know how much to say or how much you guys would rather figure out?
ArcAngel
2024-08-19 02:18:11 +0000 UTCBTW: When Guy Francis killed himself there was a detective named Childress guarding him, so you have an idea of what might have happened. Maggie remarried, that was another ring. Rust's final vision, that spiral vortex you saw, is supposed to represent the portal to Errol's "infernal plane". Where all his work led to and where Rust was just about to enter as he was about to die. It also ties to the "time is a flat circle" part too, as Rust for a brief moment sees it all from a different perspective, witnessing the universe from another angle, just like he mentioned when he was explaining the flat circle theory to the other detectives. As to all the other doubts you still have I'd suggest a light search on the web, but I'm sure you'll have some great explanations here in the comments.
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-19 00:58:11 +0000 UTCOver the last ten years ive rewatched this series 4-5 times, if you ever do revisit just know you will definitely find new things to appreciate in every viewing. Id say it gets better everytime
Zero
2024-08-19 00:31:04 +0000 UTCGreat reactions guys! Can't believe this journey ended already, it went by so fast. I'm glad you both enjoyed this masterpiece of a season. I don't really think you'll ever see anything like this, not at this level I mean. Sure there are a lot of amazing series to watch, some that will get you all hyped (like for example Peaky Blinders, which I love btw) or with a lot of plot twists, but not at this level of quality in all of it's aspects. So take some time to appreciate it and maybe who knows sometime rewatch it cause it's worth it. Anyway, I do unterstand the need for more answers, I wanted more as well. But at the same time we got what we needed, and the rest was left to our own interpretation and discovery. Like our duo, we were left with the feeling that so much more could've been uncovered, but "we got ours" at least. This story felt like a journey through these two detectives' lives, it wasn't only about the crime but also the people in it. And that took us in a ride with Marty and Rust, the imperfectly perfect duo, and how the case and everything else impacted their lives and how they changed/evolved as the years went on. There's so much more to write about it, but i'd be here all night. I just love how it ends, with two broken men forever bonded by their tragic journey and how Rust still found a bit of light in all that darkness!!! All hail King Rust!
Henrique Freitas
2024-08-18 23:55:29 +0000 UTCI really loved watching this with you guys. It's truly one of the greatest seasons of Television ever. There is a lot to this season, and I could break down each piece, but the real beauty of it is to not look at every single detail and analyze it piece by piece, rather just step back and enjoy it all together. One thing I will touch on is that Rust goes through life seeing only darkness. From the first scene he is obsessed with death, immersed in all of the negativities of humanity because of his past life and the death of his daughter. Rust is so haunted by his past that he succumbs to substance abuse in order to combat the overwhelming existential void that can never truly be filled. His story is exactly that of a flat circle, one that is cyclical, self-feeding and seemingly only destined to destruction when our own lives are over. But, in the end, he too has his own revelation, that darkness is not all there is, that the overwhelming presence of darkness can only exist with the existence of light. Rust breaks down crying in the wheelchair, under the stars, not because he’s engulfed in darkness, but because of the warm beautiful lightness that he experienced. Death is not all there is. The “end” is only secondary to everything that leads up to it.
Farbod
2024-08-18 23:54:21 +0000 UTCYea thats billy childress. We dont know exactly what his dad put him through but the imagination is what inspires true horror. Same as the videotape
Zero
2024-08-18 23:51:49 +0000 UTCThe really depressing line of the episode is the FBI dismissing the rumors errol childress was connected to the Tuttles. What that was showing was the corruption is DEEP and still active. The brutal truth of the show is while they got their correct suspect, they did not “get them all” the cult and they never will
Zero
2024-08-18 23:50:57 +0000 UTCI understand the initial disappointment with the understated ending to this great series. When you watch the finale for the first time, you hope Marty and Rust are going to uncover this huge network of villains and catch them all in their underground lair or something--after all, what other ending would satisfy the brilliant build-up of the first seven episodes? So when it just turns out the villain is this almost stereotypical psychopathic redneck sleeping with his half-sister and living in his own squalor and filth, you think, "Really, that's it?" But that's what I think makes this ending so good. This is a very grounded show, and just as in real life, evil isn't perpetrated by a mustache-twirling supervillain from a Marvel movie; no, the villains in real life are mundane, seemingly average people doing horrible things. It's the banality of evil. And just as in real life, you never catch them all. Even still, I believe Rust was on the right track there at the end. The light is indeed winning or will win in the end. Not all will be brought to justice in this life, but death is not the end, and those who escape justice in death will certainly find it after death. That's what I believe, anyway.
Joel P
2024-08-18 23:50:39 +0000 UTCAlso the reason there isnt much cult info dropped at the end is because when you get all the names down and review the tree, alot of the older members of the cult are dead now. Errol childress was just one of many tuttle children who was copycatting the family tradition. He was a very small splinter of the family. The way “bastards” are seen in GoT families. The true cult leaders were the people in powerful positions. The senator, the governor, the sherriff etc. There wasnt even any records of Errol childress. He was like a runt of the litter.
Zero
2024-08-18 23:49:15 +0000 UTCSeason 1 was inspired heavily by the Hosanna church scandal, in louisanna. One thing that really adds to this season is the setting. Lousianna is dreadful, swampy, poverty stricken and just creepy. One fact non americans might not catch is the killer took advantage of “hurricane katrina” because during that time many people went missing/drowned. Its mentioned a few times but i noticed you guys really didnt know what they meant by “katrina”.
Zero
2024-08-18 23:46:19 +0000 UTCIs the dead guy in the shed his dad who gave him the scars? and has he been torturing him this whole time?
Cal
2024-08-18 23:39:09 +0000 UTCThe best part about Marty recognizing the detail of the fresh paint was Rust in season one saying this when talking about his big ledger he took notes in "Of course I've always taken a lot of notes. I mean you never know what the thing's gonna be, do you? A little detail somewhere way down the line makes you say ah!... breaks the case."
FullMetal B
2024-08-18 23:27:42 +0000 UTCThe series is set in Louisiana which has a history steeped in voodoo/black magic. It's a real thing there to this day and involves rituals, spirits etc. The killer was a follower of voodoo and used the horns, branches as part of his murder ritual. I don't think it's much deeper than that. The guy was messed up and had messed up beliefs. The Tuttles were definitely involved in the cover up, and the newscaster saying it was proven they weren't involved is basically telling the audience that the corruption still exists, even though this particular killer was caught. There is no real closure, that's the point. The darkness still exists.
Nick Ireland
2024-08-18 23:22:02 +0000 UTC
