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Arrival [2016] Uncut Movie Reaction
Added 2024-05-23 21:56:32 +0000 UTCArrival (2016) Movie UNCUT Reaction
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Proof positive...Pudgey is the smart one🤔
Mark D
2025-02-08 17:47:42 +0000 UTCsuch an amazing movie! Definitely one of the best films of the millennium!
Bekka NoyB
2025-01-14 08:09:00 +0000 UTCBy understadning the aliens language, she is able to see time as non linear like they do, as proven by the fact that their words and sentences are non linear and circular. The child and marriage was just a way to prove that she was seeing the future. It had no relevance to the help that humanity will provide to the aliens.
Duncan
2024-06-01 17:03:59 +0000 UTCWas I the only one wondering what the hell "June part 1 and 2" was for a few minutes there? 😅
Matt Menacher
2024-06-01 01:48:53 +0000 UTCCouple things, 1) Pudgey while you were "right" about Ian being the father, you got it right by accident. And when you said you thought he was the father you still thought Louise was seeing things from her past, so you definitely cannot claim to have gotten that right. 2) Spartan I think the issue is the answer you are technically looking for, would come in 3000 years when humanity helped the aliens. Obviously we don't know now what we would need to do to help them, but the Aliens DO. They can see it already so they KNEW they needed our help with whatever it is. So they had to come to Earth, teach us their language and get us to work together, and allow us to be able to communicate with them in 3000 years when they needed our help. Fantastic movie and so well written
RP10
2024-05-30 20:04:31 +0000 UTCThat's such a cool question! Maybe! I interpreted it as her not having a complete grasp of the language just yet and needing help to write, but I like seeing it your way too!
21chouettes
2024-05-28 12:35:33 +0000 UTCWhen Louise said she couldn't write with both hands with the Heptapod ink... is that because it implies there is a beginning and an end, whereas one hand... not so much?
CpaSpartan Pudgey
2024-05-27 01:22:27 +0000 UTCI was going to write a more complex answer to your points until I read "You want to see a palindrome movie done right see Christopher Nolan’s TeneT." So yeah, if you think tenet is anything else other than a mess of a movie, then it's probably no good to be trying to make you see reason here but i'll try anyway. So it's the aliens' fault that there's division and tension between us humans as a species? sorry pal but no, that was already a thing before the aliens arrived. That's kinda the whole point. Also “random palindrome plot line inserted to make the movie appear much more clever than it really was.”??? Sounds like you are describing a Nolan movie. That “plot line” IS the core of the movie, not the alien plot but the character arc. And there is no palindrome going on, in case you didn't notice it the movie is linear LINEAR. With the exception of the very first scene everything that happens in the movie is told in a linear way, the way Louise is perceiving it. That's the reason she doesnt recognize Ian in the beginning, because it is only until you understand the language that you begin perceiving time in a non linear way, it has nothing to do with seeing circles wtf? Once she starts understanding then her mind starts jumping all over time from that point onwards, again, not a circle. But every dream (if you would like to call them that) she has, we see them precisely at the same moment she experiences it, so the narrative is not jumping through time, only she is, therefore this is a linear narrative.
Pablo
2024-05-25 23:57:01 +0000 UTCI think there's an implication as well that if the Heptapods didn't interfere and give the gift that unites humanity, humans wouldn't be around in 3000 years to help them because we would have killed each other in some world war.
Griffin
2024-05-25 22:18:47 +0000 UTCGeneral Shang's wife's dying words translate to "In war there are no winners, only widows".
Griffin
2024-05-25 22:15:25 +0000 UTCwhat’s hilarious to me is throughout the movie spartan keeps calling them ‘visions’ when he’s talking about ‘flashbacks’ but when he says ‘visions’ he’s right but just using the wrong word for what he wants to say 😂😂
Katie
2024-05-25 05:21:57 +0000 UTComfg yes i’m so excited to see your reaction to this. i think the reason this movie had such a specific impact on me is because i studied linguistics in school. seeing this movie made me realize.. how WOULD we communicate with aliens if they come to earth? it’s one thing to communicate with a human because if someone speaking korean says ‘mul’ i won’t know what it means but they can point to water and say ‘mul’ and now i can understand what mul means.. but for these aliens there’s no way because they don’t have the same kind of verbal language or handwriting.. where would you even begin?? such a fascinating movie.
Katie
2024-05-25 03:03:01 +0000 UTCI love most of Villanueva’s work and visually, musically the movie is beautiful. But this always hit me as the aliens helped the people solve a problem the aliens created, and then there’s this random palindrome plot line inserted to make the movie appear much more clever than it really was. Like she wouldn’t recognize the man she had a baby with or recognize their relationship and romance and what it led to. Until she saw an alien series of circles. Then suddenly it makes sense for her life to be a circle. Which we know life is not. Which makes no sense since they tried so hard to make the movie feel grounded as possible. Derp. You want to see a palindrome movie done right see Christopher Nolan’s TeneT. I’ve been dreading this movie winning the poll and completely predicted the way Spartan would feel at the end. There’s a reason you’re discontent with it brother it’s ok to say the emperor has no clothes. Villanueva does great work but not everything is gonna be a Dune or Sicario (which you would have enjoyed much more trust me). Despite that I still bought paramount plus just to watch it with you guys and give it another fair shot. Hey at least there’s a new South Park special on! Ultimately I’m glad this is out of the way so it can stop cockteasing winning every other poll.
Veilsix
2024-05-24 22:01:44 +0000 UTCYep this is basically it. They needed to have this experience and learn these things so that they can make sufficient progress as a species to assist the heptapods in the future. I felt this was pretty straightforward. That said, as others have said here, this whole aspect really isn't the main point of the film whatsoever.
SuddenImpulse
2024-05-24 21:01:24 +0000 UTCI don't think anyone who loves this movie would "destroy" you! Not every movie is for every person. This movie scratches an itch in my brain that I adore: science and language, grand vision and filmmaking, time travel, etc., but if that's not your experience, that's cool. I know some people like to make the argument that if you didn't like it, it's because you didn't understand it, and well, we definitely can understand something and still not find it interesting. I think it's great that you gave it a shot! Nothing worse than deciding you won't like something before experiencing it!
Lolilie
2024-05-24 19:04:20 +0000 UTCI agree that if we had a chance to change our experiences we'd be someone else. Its basically a similar theory to life after death. We wouldn't remember any of this. After not only knowing but literally experiencing her future she physically couldn't change it because its what made her her.
AlrightThere
2024-05-24 18:43:00 +0000 UTCI know I'm gonna get destroyed, but I found this movie extremely boring. Even knowing all the symbolisms, tie-ins and deeper meaning. It was just way to slow and dry for me 😵 but great reaction as always, love u guys 😘
Lennie from Denmark
2024-05-24 17:24:41 +0000 UTCThis is my favorite sci-fi movie together with Interstellar. Why? Because normally you have natural sciences sci-fi, but this is a language science sci-fy! They took the idea that learning a language changes how you think further until they came up with the change in perceiving time. Even in our world there are some small examples, for example anxiety. English has a word for it, Portuguese, Spanish, etc, but in German, it is "Angst", which is the same word as for fear. So someone who grows up only knowing German will never experience, talk about and feel anxiety as something more than fear, for them it's the same thing. So the movie plays along with what would happen to a person, if we could learn a language that changes our perceiving of time itself. If you notice, we do get the backstory in the beginning, but Louise herself only starts seeing her daughter after the starts learning heptapod. She then starts to drift out of the present towards other times of her life, because she no longer perceive things in terms of "cause and then consequence" anymore. She's not physically traveling through time, but she can navigate through her own mind from her birth to her death. And even though, she loves every moment with her daughter so much that she chooses again to be a mother. So the movie is basically a message about the fact that yeah, we all die/lose our loved ones in the end, but what's important is what we learn and experience with them while we are living. That no matter what the outcome is, the path until there is what matters. Take some time to rewatch the movie. The more often you watch it, the more small details come to the surface and you see how the storytelling specially was really smart done!
Geovane Rodrigues
2024-05-24 14:34:11 +0000 UTCI started laughing righty away. She picked that up good, the line go to your father for science stuff
Jhin Virtuoso
2024-05-24 13:05:30 +0000 UTCGreat film, great reaction as always team. The space journey continues. Dennis comes in clutch again.
Isaac_
2024-05-24 12:13:57 +0000 UTC"Can Ian be the father? Noo Pudgey, you're smarter than that" ;)))
Chris B
2024-05-24 09:11:02 +0000 UTC"I loved the journey, but like you can't leave me there!" Spartan should write the tagline for the movie because that's kind of a major point. It's all about the journey. There are a lot of comparisons to Interstellar because, like Interstellar, Arrival is about more than the plot of the film. Don't get me wrong, a lot of movies come with messages - it's not just Interstellar and Arrival, but given that both deal with time travel and are Sci-fi and came out in the 2010s and were directed by two of the titans of current cinema, they are easy to stack up against one another. Interstellar's plot is "we send people into space to find a new home because the Earth is dying," but one might say it's really about love being the most powerful force in the Universe. Similarly, Arrival is about the arrival of the aliens and learning to communicate to save the visitors and ourselves, but it could be said that it's about which journeys we take, which choices we make, and challenging our perceptions about time. Like Louise, we also learn this language through the film. The start and end of the movie, while not exactly the same part of the story, are so similar that it's almost as if they close the circle (think of a heptapod's writing.) Similarly, the movie, out of the gate, confronts your default perception of linear time. We are not presented with an actual time frame for Louise's experience with her daughter, but it comes "before" the start of the story (as we perceive it), so in Western culture that writes left to right and, like everyone, experiences linear time, we're conditioned to assume it's a flashback. I don't like to be that person who says you have to watch a movie more than once to "get it," because a movie should make its own case on a first viewing. I hope it motivates you to revisit it in the future because there are A LOT of hints along the way that are generally missed the first time through because of those preconceived notions about storytelling. For one, you'll notice that we see more and more of Hannah the more fluent that Louise becomes with the language. It also explains why Louise's reactions are so exaggerated every time she has these "visions." How confusing would it be to feel time change in your body and to see a child you don't yet know? I've seen both reactions - people that were gutted by the ending (ME!) and those who weren't. I find such beauty in Louise's choice. We talk about changing fate, but can you really? If your life is happening all at once, you are who you are because of every experience. Marrying Ian, having a child, they have happened, will happen, are happening, and changing any of those things could have a profound impact on all of it - again, if it's even possible to change it. What has happened will happen is happening? Does that now mean we are fated? Destiny is real? Free will is a lie? I don't know! That's why I so enjoy this movie. I think it sparks some great discussions and is very thought-provoking. Oh, dear goodness me - there really should be a character limit on these things!
Lolilie
2024-05-24 07:28:19 +0000 UTCIts such a good movie for rewatching That was a great reaction. Was exactly what I was hoping for. My brain and interpretive method definitely is more like Pudgeys lol. I will send you guys some deep dive analysis and some other summary type information on the movie and certain aspects that I found very enjoyable after I first watched it tomorrow! I've shared these few articles with a few others in the discord after they first watched it in the last few months. I think you guys will really enjoy these materials. Thanks so much for reacting to this! Glad you enjoyed it so much.
SuddenImpulse
2024-05-24 07:11:20 +0000 UTCThe heptopods gave humanity the gift so they can survive. If humanity didn't have the gift their will be mistrust and constant wars preventing the advancements for humanity. Now that they have this gift humanity can evolve and survive for 3000 years to eventually help the heptopods in whatever problem they have.
Alex
2024-05-24 05:13:16 +0000 UTCOH SHIT
Alex Ocean
2024-05-24 04:42:49 +0000 UTCAlso, it's been ages since I've read the short story, but I vaguely remember that the heptapods thought algebra was too complex for them. Maybe they just needed help with their math homework lol
Tapiocca
2024-05-24 04:31:03 +0000 UTCI wouldn't worry about the plot too much. It's mainly just a device to explore the main character's motivations and introduce themes of love, loss, and acceptance. I loved the focus on language. If you think about it, it's kind of humanity's superpower. Sure, other animals may have ways to comunícate, but they are nowhere near the sophistication of human language. It allowed us to share and pass down ideas that later turned into technology, science, art, and everything else that makes us human.
Tapiocca
2024-05-24 04:25:00 +0000 UTCOnce she understands the alien writing, she realizes that they perceive everything as non-linear. As she gained the ability to understand the language, she also developed the perception of non-linear experience. Everything that would come to happen was already happening. She then chooses to embrace her life regardless of the inevitable death of her child and separation from her husband.
Demo
2024-05-24 04:10:23 +0000 UTCBased on the short ‘Story of Your Life’ by Ted Chiang. Takes much less than an hour to read. Amazing writer, he has several other stories as good as this. https://raley.english.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/Reading/Chiang-story.pdf
James Woodford
2024-05-24 03:51:54 +0000 UTCThis is the most fun I've had with a post discussion in a while. The dumbfounded look on Spartans face lol. Once again Pudgey was right and Spartan doubted her. 🤣😂
Connor W
2024-05-24 03:46:34 +0000 UTCThis movie is all about love, life and choices. If you knew how your life would go, would you change anything? If you knew that a relationship was going to end poorly, would you still choose to start it? If you already knew a child of yours was going to die young from cancer, would you still choose to have the child? I think those are the main themes of the movie, the impermanence of everything. All things come to an end. If you knew how they were going to end, would you do anything differently? The idea that it's about helping the heptapods in the future is just something to drive the plot.
John Neiberger
2024-05-24 02:26:29 +0000 UTCThis is one of those movies that needs a rewatch! You pick up so much more!
Emily J
2024-05-24 02:25:43 +0000 UTCI really loved this, so glad you decided to watch this tonight. My first time watching. Imagine discovering a universal language Love that Louise decided not to change how things went in her life despite knowing the heartache of losing a child. I like the heptapods encouraging us to work together in an effort to save their own species later. As finite beings it is hard to grasp no time or endings and beginnings.
Lyn Hurst
2024-05-24 01:54:36 +0000 UTCThe 'weapon'/'gift': it's that you perceive time differently (we would say you can see your *own* future), they're saying you see your life without a beginning or end. It's implied that once more/all of humanity comes to use this language, they will be able to perceive their own lives in this way, which will be of use to the Heptapods in whatever it is that they need help with. The usefulness is demonstrated by the phone call to General Shang. Louise learns from her 'future' the phone number and what to say, the general shows that he understands that he needs to give this information this to her in 'her future' so that she knows it in her 'past'/'present'. This is a type of Bootstrap / information time paradox. The first time I experienced the concept was when playing Ocarina of Time as a child. Hannah's story is a further demonstration of the concept and the difference between the way in which Louise and Ian perceive time. He leaves her because he learns that she knows their child will die (has a beginning and an end), and presumably disagrees with Louise about having brough Hannah into the world because of the heartbreak. Meanwhile Louise perceives Hannah's life as having no beginning or end, hence the palindrome name being reversible.
Raztaban
2024-05-24 01:41:05 +0000 UTCI appreciated the writing a lot more on the rewatch there, great movie and reaction 😃
Craig
2024-05-24 01:40:04 +0000 UTCShe didn't change anything because she wanted to live this life, she wanted to meet her daughter even though knowing that she will lose her .Hence why she asked Ian "if he could see his whole life from start to finish would he change anything" and he answered that "he'd say what he feels more often".
Minerva Ravenclaw
2024-05-24 01:28:41 +0000 UTCTheir mission was to give Humans a weapon which was their language, and Louise learned it so she was able to see the future like they do. Apparently this will lead in the future to humanity helping the aliens. Once you learn their language time will not be perceived as we humans perceive it, it's non linear , it's circular just like how they write their language ⭕
Minerva Ravenclaw
2024-05-24 01:14:33 +0000 UTCI remember watching this when it first came out and not really getting the hype. I liked it, but the ending was frustrating and I didn't really get the point of the movie. So glad I watched it again with you guys, I picked up on things that I had missed the first time and everything seemed a lot deeper and made much more sense. There's so many levels to a lot of the dialogue. Amazing movie and soundtrack! Definitely (for me, at least) hits harder on second viewing.
Nick Ireland
2024-05-24 00:48:03 +0000 UTCLeave it to Denis Villeneuve to get you invested in a character because of something that wasnt even happened to them.
Pablo
2024-05-24 00:47:00 +0000 UTCMan, the moment Louise and Ian finally embrace themselves in that hug at the end and Louise says "i forgot how good it felt to be held by you" fucking destroyed me. And i had already seen this i just never picked up on that line wtf. I feel like that line alone gives you so much insight into how she is feeling, how her mind works and her need to just go ahead and live that life even tho she knows its gonna end in tragedy, cause it already has ended for her and she is grieving it. Fuck man
Pablo
2024-05-24 00:37:16 +0000 UTCI love with the "non zero sum game" part. In the future she tells her daughter to ask her father for science stuff. Then back in the present it's Ian that says the phrase that prompts her to tell her daughter in the future. Still got the answer from her father!
FullMetal B
2024-05-24 00:31:33 +0000 UTCAfter just finishing this, I’m very confused. But I will watch it again to try and understand it more 😅
Kai Westbrook
2024-05-24 00:27:02 +0000 UTCWhoo hoo! I'm happy to see this one. Such a good movie. I love that you're starting to get into scifi. I really, REALLY hope you watch The Expanse in the not too distant future. I'm dying to watch that series again with you. Now, on the movie for me!
John Neiberger
2024-05-24 00:23:50 +0000 UTCThe bird is the 'Canary in the Coal Mine'. If it dies suddenly it's a pretty good indication that the atmosphere has become toxic.
Raztaban
2024-05-23 23:51:47 +0000 UTCOn the Nature of Daylight🎶🎻 by Max Richter in the opening and at the end was chef's kiss
Minerva Ravenclaw
2024-05-23 23:08:10 +0000 UTCDenis Villeneuve has such an amazing sense of scale. Everything feels so real with his films. Not a single frame is wasted.
Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
2024-05-23 23:05:39 +0000 UTCYay, going home to watch it. Loved it!
Raphael Aguiar
2024-05-23 22:40:50 +0000 UTCYAY
Jenna
2024-05-23 22:38:02 +0000 UTCYou guys definitely started with some heavy hitters in both the fantasy and sci fi genres!
FullMetal B
2024-05-23 22:17:02 +0000 UTCOh boy, Arrival has arrived! Man I'm such a dork.. Really!!! Arrival has arrived?? I couldn't think of anything better?? smdh🤨 Edit: Almost forgot, Thanks S&P The S&P connection, sounds like a wrestling tag team or something..
PastaDon
2024-05-23 22:01:24 +0000 UTCNever watched this movie but I’m going to watch along for the first time with you 😊
Kai Westbrook
2024-05-23 21:58:55 +0000 UTCMan, with such a demanding job, your Thursday drops are what get me through and give me a moment of rest and happiness. Thanks for what you guys do. So excited to see this for the first time with you guys!
Alex Ocean
2024-05-23 21:58:15 +0000 UTCLets fucking go
Pablo
2024-05-23 21:57:26 +0000 UTCwell yes
lohan
2024-05-23 21:57:24 +0000 UTC
