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Breaking Bad 5x7 Uncut Reaction | 'Say My Name'

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Walt made a dick move by cutting Jesse out of the golden parachute that he and Mike were angling for with the methylamine sale. However, he also chose to stay quiet while Walter essentially kept him part of the business because he didn't want to argue with Walt in front of the new distributors. I think Jesse worked hard for that money, but he was also playing mental gymnastics, trying to justify keeping that money when it's all been earned on the death of not just the child and Gale and all the people they've killed, but also the thousands of lives their product has ruined. Jesse wants to stop feeling like a monster, and using the blood money for the rest of his life would keep him a prisoner of his poor life choices in the show. As much of a dick as Walter was, I think it's Jesse's only opportunity to get out of the game, move on, and live a life without the constant guilt every time he goes to the store. I usually agree with Pudgey when it comes to the debates you two sometimes have, but this time I'm on Spartan's side - Walt wasn't right, but Jesse wasn't some injured party that's a victim of Walt's greed.

Josh Lopater

Great nuanced review!

Dasypodidae

Random Sidenote- There's no actor in game of thrones anywhere close to as skilled as Bryan Cranston. No one in that show can act as good as Aaron Paul or Anna Gunn either if we're being honest. That's one of multiple reasons why Breaking Bad is the better show of the two.

Charlie Kelly

Pudgey made a couple good points. Walt is dead wrong for not wanting to give Jesse his money even if it is just a manipulation tactic. The drug game is a dirty game but that's supposed to be your partner and you should stick to your word and pay him the money he's owed... In the real world that's grounds to get killed, without question, if somebody tried to do what Walt threatened to do. But Spartan ultimately won the debate in my opinion I give him a slight edge in that one. Also, Spartan's correct about when they were dividing up the money a few episodes ago when Jesse offered up his share.... Walter said no thank you Jesse, it's fine. I'll pay my share. Walt was pissed off about the legacy cost for Mike's 9 guys but in that moment he changed his mind & decided to get with the program. (Hazard Pay) I think that's the scene you two were referring to, but if it's not disregard what I said.

Charlie Kelly

Great reaction guys. This episode literally made me light headed and lay down the first time I saw it. Never had that happened to me before or since. Spartan is right though. Jesse gets a pass from a lot of people because he has a conscience. Really like Mike because he always understood that what he was doing was wrong and when he realizes that it caught up to him he accepts it.

Daniel Castro

I agree with you Spartan about them being equally guilty with their involvement with everything. But regardless of all of that, Jesse owned a third of the methylamine, it was his to sell if he wanted, but Walt wanted to keep all of it (and he did keep all of it), so he definitely owed Jesse for his share.

Clifton Nally

And Walter wasn’t as bad as joffrey

TheRoguePrince19

Being someone who has been clean for a couple of decades, it was very cringe to watch Jesse basically being a predator preying on the weak. People just getting clean or possibly still using are on shaky ground.

Lyn Hurst

I am an average Walt hater, but I respect Bryan Cranston's acting prowess. Great scene with Declan "say my name".

Lyn Hurst

There is a lot going on here and it is important to know the back story for Walts actions. No one has clean hands except for Holly and Walt Jr. I enjoyed your reactions. Good call on Mike's death. Sad but I think he would have been a liability to Walt and Jesse. He definitely knew the most and would have nothing to lose for blowing the whistle on Walt, if he was picked up. Even though Walter's character is extremely dark now, Bryan Cranston did an excellent job in this and many other episodes. Can't wait for the rest of the season. The writing and acting of the main characters is top notch.

Lyn Hurst

I'M TEAM PUDGEY 100% Walter is so fucked up he completely fucked Jesse over. He's been blackmailing and manipulating Jesse from the beginning. Sorry Spartan I still love you 🤣

Kuzon

I'm just shocked there hasn't been a moment where they have said "f#ck no, no discussion, we are going straight to the next one ".. I think I remember them doing a binge. But to just say, NOPE, we can't wait!.... but hmmm, why do I got a feeling it's a coming!!! Ahaha, and we know which episodes it is!

allen koch

I swear to god , it’s genuinely crazy that they haven’t praised Cranston’s performance once , he’s literally given the greatest tv performance of all time up until this point and they haven’t even noticed, but let’s not forget these are the same people who thought that jaquen hgar gave the best performance in game of thrones soo they just don’t know acting well at all.

TheRoguePrince19

She’s been anti Walter long before this season, were you sleeping through there s4 reactions and 3

TheRoguePrince19

If you think they have more depth than Walt, you missed the plot. but anyway to each their own. All the people Walt killed are drug dealers and people who are trying to kill him. literally all and those two dudes who were about to kill the ungrateful Jesse who claims the moral high ground just cause he cries after doing some shit but wants the money from all this horrible drug Business he can't stomach to stay in. Jesse at one point tried to sell meth to recovering addicts just because he was feeling down. imagine what he would do if he was facing death like Walt. but anyways i aint even trying to get into this argument. great show, great reactions. can't wait for episode 8

Leroy

Because Walt is the worst of them all he has literally no morals whatsoever and just does what he wants since hes going to die anyway. Jessie and Mike are flawed characters with more depth. We understand why they are doing the things they do a lot more than just "im going to die soon so Ill do what I want". Don't get me wrong they are bad people too but we can sympathise with them. Walter cares about no one but himself. I understand her hate for him and since rewatching this after many times with these guys I'm actually disliking Walter even more.

AlrightThere

What I love about this show is every event has a cause and if you chase it back to the beginning every decision Walter made directly affected the outcome. If Walter never joined Hank on his drug bust Gus would still be a king pin but who knows if he would ever get his revenge on Eladio and Hector. Jessie probably would have carried on his ways and either ended up dead or in prison (I do think potentially he would have finally seen different with help from his family especially his younger brother to change his ways since Jessie deep down is just another broken individual tryna find his path). Tuco would probably end up dead/caught by the DEA eventually. Hank would still be plucking away. Skyler would still be living a life committed to her family. Michael would still be earning a living as Gus's main man unless he randomly dies on a mission. Really simple concept but one persons actions can set so many things in motion just like real life. Thats why I love this show its very realistic and everything happens for a reason.

AlrightThere

After their nuanced view of GoT's characters, I never thought that Pudgey could become average Walt hater, guess I was wrong lol

Milorad

lol the funniest part for me was, when Walt shot Mike, Spartan said "I guess Mike was gonna kill Walt at some point too", she goes "That was different.... I feel"

Leroy

Honestly it's getting difficult to watch her role her eyes or look in disgust every single time Walter does anything..she seems not to be able to enjoy his brilliant character and actor because of that.

MO

I think during Ozymandias she will leave the room hahahaha

Jackhammer

Jessie was a drug dealer before Walt got involved so he’s no innocent victim, but Walt is wrong not to pay Jessie his $5M.

Rob Brown

Joffrey didn’t have a legion of defenders making sigma male edits about them.

Kevin Anand

Being anti-Walter is good, he’s almost comically evil this season.

Kevin Anand

You’re completely wrong about Walt killing Mike. Walt’s actions were purely driven by his ego. He got salty that Mike called him out on his pride and put him in his place constantly so he shot him.

Kevin Anand

Spartan is the only voice of reason in these BB reactions lol kills me to say it cause Pudgy has always been spot-on with almost every reaction i've seen from them. everyone in the comments has said why her reaction to Walt as opposed to Jesse, mike or any of the other horrendous humans in the show is so extremely biased that it makes it hard to watch so i won't pile on. but anyways, great reaction. you are about to embark on the greatest 9 episode run in tv history.

Leroy

@Rey Walt has stopped using the family argument long ago, except when he's "comforting" Skylar about her personal actions. He actually implies many times that his product (=he) is superior, and that he settled for less once and won't do it again, etc. Lots of examples. I have a question btw, I vividly remember you being very annoyed by the blind hate Cersei was getting (i remember cause I kinda was too). Not that she's not evil, but there was determination to despise her no matter what. On the other hand you were very satisfied that they hate Walt. And I'm not arguing Walt's morality here, I'm talking about how they engage with this evil main character. Question is, do you still feel that this determination that has led them to roll their eyes almost every time Walt says a word is still satisfying and reasonable? Don't you think it has gotten to a point where accusing Walt that he's been bearing evil intentions since S1E1 totally obliterates the brilliance of his story arc and the development of one of the best character slow transformations ever?

HDN

I have read analyses and it pretty much is between these two opinions, so I could be wrong. But what I get from this full scene is that: at first he's clearly angry, leaves and then comes back and shoots him. At this point I imagine one of 2 reason: either Walt got mad about Mike's monologue, or he's angry that his plan to get the names in exchange of the bag failed and got him to shoot Mike. It's after Walt realizes he could have gotten it from Lidia that it becomes clear that it was somehow connected to the list, or that he wouldn't have done it if he had planned something else to get the list. You could also argue that him trying to get the list from Mike instead of Lidia is what has led to the provocative speech and then supposedly the shooting. I lean towards the first assumption. Him losing his shit over ego accusations is not as convincing. Plus he mentions the list after. Could be wrong.

HDN

I agree with you. I think many people give Jesse more credit is because they compare him with Walter. And everyone looks great besides him.

Rey Jr

I don’t agree with your assessment on Mikes death. Walter killed Mike in a moment of rage and frustration. You could literally see how pissed Walt got after Mikes criticism. Walter, unable to contain his anger and feeling belittled, impulsively grabs a gun from Mike's car and shoots him. Mikes death was never necessary. I mean Walt definitely wouldn’t get the names if Mike is dead from him. But yeah he realises at the end that the whole confrontation was unnecessary.

Rey Jr

"There's a dark side to each and every human soul. We wish we were Obi-Wan Kenobi, and for the most part we are, but there's a little Darth Vader in all of us. Thing is, this ain't no either-or proposition. We're talking about dialectics, the good and the bad merging into us. You can run but you can't hide. My experience? Face the darkness. Stare it down. Own it. As brother Nietzsche said, being human is a complicated gig. So give that ol' dark night of the soul a hug. Howl the eternal yes!"

Tennille Sinclair

Joffrey was obviously a nasty bastard. This conversation at the end about Jesse vs Walt is a conflict as the characters arent black and white like Joffrey who was a sadistic little shit.

Tennille Sinclair

Well they also hated Cersei all the time in GOT. And Cersei has actually some similarities to Walter. Each character rationalizes their morally questionable actions by claiming they are doing it for their family. Walter insists his drug manufacturing and distribution are meant to secure his family's financial future after his death(Not fully true he could have taken Eliotts deal), while Cersei's manipulations and plots are ostensibly to protect her children and ensure their place on the throne. However, their actions often endanger and ultimately harm their families more than protect them. Also both Walter and Cersei are deeply motivated by a desire for power and control. Walter's transformation into Heisenberg is fueled by his need to assert control over his life and legacy, especially after his cancer diagnosis makes him feel powerless. Similarly, Cersei's actions are driven by her desire to maintain and expand her power within the Seven Kingdoms, often through manipulation and strategic marriages.

Rey Jr

I think both characters have to take responsibility for their actions. Jesse and Walt are both criminals. But they are still very different from each other. Jesse often displays a stronger moral compass, showing remorse and a disturbed conscience over violence, contrasting with Walter's descent into ruthlessness. Jesse's arc leans towards redemption; he visibly struggles with guilt and seeks ways to atone, unlike Walter, who becomes increasingly manipulative. For example how he always gets Jesse back like with Brock or Jane. Walt has an immense ego that is never satisfied. If I would see Jesse cook, he would try to convince me that it is not what it looks like. If i would see Walt cook, I would end up in a barrel. Walt doesn’t know limits and would do anything to build his empire

Rey Jr

Mike said it "You are a time bomb".

Joseph Schiller

Clearly Spartan is right. What Mike tells Walter isn't the full picture. It wasn't just Gus that wanted to kill Jesse in the beginning, Saul suggested that Jesse should be killed as well, after Jesse threatens Walter about informing him to the DEA. What does Walter do? He sticks his neck out, regardless of the risk to help Jesse. Walter had no choice but to get rid of Gus after saving Jesse's life. I mean... Pudgey's view is such a surface level cursory observation that a lot of "anti-Walter" fans share. They want to blame Walt for everything without seeing the motivation behind Walt's actions.

Johen Kay

11 months between mid season and ep 9 but felt like years lol I was pregnant with my first kid when season 5 was on tv so I'll never forget it.

Natalie-Anne

Loved the discussion S&P. It is difficult to maintain objectivity in this situation because recent memories always weigh in more. We understand that Pudgey is reeling in that. Brilliantly played by Bryan Cranston to evoke that feeling in all Anti-Walter category. Spartan -> You absolutely nailed it. Mike's death was sad but, in this industry, "Deserve" has nothing to do with it. If you remember even Lydia was ready to Off Mike. That is the kind of game you are playing. Pudgey-> You are classically fooled by Jesse's baby blue eyes. He was selling Meth to Andrea and the others in the Anti-Addiction social group knowing fully well that these are people trying to get out of that loop. I do not know if anything else in this entire show can be as low as what Jesse was doing at that point. Just because he likes kids and cries like a baby, we forget all that Jesse has done wrong. Walt had nothing to gain by saving Jesse in episode 3X11 - Half Measures. Walt had nothing to gain by bringing in Jesse and removing Gale from the lab. He did it because Jesse threatened to go to Hank and give up Walt. But never has Walt held all this against him. Walt has always been very fair. Yes he is ruthless, he is ambitious, he blocks empathy etc, but so do every other character. Even Mike. What a show to give us such characters that spark such debates.

Shriram Iyer

Jesse not getting anything out of the deal in the end is a result of his emotional decision making. As Mike said he’s loyal but to the wrong guy. Jesse’s fatal flaw here is his loyalty to Walt. Walter should honor the deal, of course. But expecting him to honor the deal is insanity at this point. Walter has proven time after time that he’s selfish and a narcissist. But he is blinded by his loyalty. We all love Jesse because he has a big heart, has been through so much. But he should know by now that Walter is a very volatile and cold blooded guy and making any kind of deal with him is extremely risky.

James Woodford

I finally understand. You're the reason most content creators avoid the comment section.

RubyMineshaft

I agree with Pudgey, Jesse was a top class college kid who had never seen Meth before, and Walt forced him into cooking😅 BTW if Walt is saying that he could have avoided killing Mike by asking Lidia about the list of names, how is his ego involved in the killing? He literally implicated that it's purely business and if he had realized he didn't need to threaten Mike for the names he wouldn't have done any of this. Beside that, Mike had it up and running with Gus, not Walt, and the only reason for that is because he saved Jesse, not because he "needed" him. Purely cause he loved him. Or as you said "he needed him emotionally", that's another way of saying he loved him. Walt fought long and hard for Jesse, even fought Mike who was accusing him of taking half measures. But sure, Walt bad Mike good. It was only normal for Mike to hate Walter for taking away his safe zone (aka Gus). I understand you despise Walt and adore Jesse and Mike, but taking Gus's side in this or pretending everything was fine before Walt killed Gus just in order to hate on Walt is beyond unreasonable.

HDN

I agree with you Spartan. Pudgey is committed to be anti Walter.

Kevin Bandy

When they were watching game of thrones they understood that the characters are complex and were actually evaluating based on both the character's motives and cleverness (loving Ned but still acknowledging he was a fool, acknowledging Tywin was evil but still loving him, etc). Maybe cause the fanbase made it clear that this is what the show's about. In this show they switched back to the way we all think irl and the consequences were that they cannot tolerate the main character of the series (Even Spartan who's trying hard not to fall too deep in the emotional judgment of character). Anyone who says they enjoy this well written villain is kidding themselves.

HDN

Mike was an interesting character, but he deserved that death easily. We have to remember he's killed dozens, maybe over a hundred people and wasn't a good guy at all. Easily way worse morally than Walt and Jesse.

Gemineye

Spartan is right imo. Walt would have been fine if he had not tried standing up for Jesse.

Christian

Pudgey didn't even give Joffrey this much hate lmao

Gemineye

It was a year between airing ep 8 and 9

JC

It’s not attacking her , it’s pointing out that she’s overly biased considering she’s trying to change stuff that happened seasons ago and I wasn’t insulting her but people always act like spartan is an idiot and pudgey is a genius so why is it a problem if I think Spartan is the smarter one imo.

TheRoguePrince19

There’s a phrase that’s used in Better Call Saul (I’m not spoiling by saying who says it or to who) but it’s “morally flexible” and I think that’s the way to look at the majority of characters in this universe. They’re very complex, that’s what makes them great to watch. They’re not black and white, they’re grey.

Erin

Chill dude. There’s no reason to start attacking her, it’s not that serious. Also, can you blame her for being against Walter? He’s a terrible person. Anyone who has watched this show, (especially to this point) who doesn’t think that, clearly isn’t watching correctly.

Erin

you seem nice

G

Gus was still literally trying his hardest to get jesse on board to kill walt till the end

TheRoguePrince19

God pudgey , you think Walt saved jesse bc he needed him when he didn’t at all , he did it bc at the time he cared about jesse , god anyone who says she’s smarter than spartan is kidding themselves, stop giving her this false credit and your the most overly biased against Walt reactor I’ve ever seen and that’s saying something and why you putting Walt into blame for threatening to call the cops on s1 jesse who’s literally a meth cook .

TheRoguePrince19

It happens very often, more often than not

TheRoguePrince19

Everyone on this show has got a little to alot, of scum in them! Besides Walt jr, Holly, and maybe gomey!... remember there are nomore laughs in season 5! We getting down to it now! And overall I've heard over the years, Mike is Everyone's favorite character. Not me, still team Walt!! And I am fine with the decision not to do BCS right now. It's gonna cost yall alot of money though lol!.. I wouldn't have stayed for it, as it's alot slower and it's not like BB where every single episode is a hit! I would have only picked out certain episodes to watch reactions to. And I know it's crazy to say as we all say, get ready for the building for the end of the season, because we say it every season for BB!

allen koch

This⬆.. Hence, the real reason why it's written in the script that Jesse calls Walter Mr. White.. I mean, Jesse is like what 5 or 6 yrs removed from HS by now..

PastaDon

Spartan is right that bringing up season 1 at this point isn't a good argument. But also Walt was working under Gus, it's different than this time where they were equal partners. Even when Mike and Jesse were going to sell the methylamine, they were still going to give Walt his fair share. But Walt refuses Jesse his share purely to manipulate him into staying.

Munir

I agree. Walt has always had the upper hand in their dynamic, which he has abused to keep him under his thumb.

Ailene Evangelista

Not the finale. The finale has a 9.8 or 9.9 which is still insane and nothing to look down upon. Ozymandias, the 3rd to last episode, is the one with a perfect 10/10 and is said to be the closest thing to a perfect episode of television. To his day it's the only episode of TV to stay at a perfect score and never waver

Pogger White

I agree with Spartan on the whole BUT there are soooo many times that Jesse was lied to by Walt and those lies roped him into bigger risks than he may have agreed to had he known the full truth (e.g. Brock’s poisoning, Jane’s death, etc.). So yes, Jesse kept getting back in, but he was being lied to and manipulated over and over and over again. It’s almost always been an unfair deal.

Shay

If I'm not mistaken, it's the only episode on IMDB with a perfect 10/10 score? With tens of thousands of votes. Unreal.

Paul

It's the hallmark of a great show when you can see perspectives from multiple characters & all understand and even agree with them in part. Such excellent writing.

Paul

Also, what an end to Mike's character. Great performance by an amazing actor. Crazy to think his character was created as a backup for Saul in his first Season 2 episode and was supposed to be a one off because Bob Odenkirk was busy on another show at the time. When Jonathan Banks went in for his audition, he blew everyone away and they knew right then and there that he would be Mike going forward. And he turned into one of the most beloved characters in the show

Pogger White

SPARTAN you are right on this one. And pudgey is wrong. But hee that does not happen often. But this time spartan is right haha

john

Are you considering watching the sequel movie "El Camino"? DON'T EVEN LOOK IT UP IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT AND HAVEN'T FINISHED BB!!! Wait till you finish the show completely cause even the thumbnails/descriptions are spoilery.

HDN

This show's finale is exceptional. Often listed as one of the greatest series finales of any TV show. Makes the journey worth it. The 3rd to last episode of this show is the highest rated episode of television ever and is the only episode of TV to have a perfect score on imdb

Pogger White

It was a mid season finale if you watched it live. There were several months in between 5x8 and 5x9

Pogger White

Couldn't agree more with Spartan in this case. A lot of people act as if Jesse was some kind of saint when in reality he's a criminal just like the others and the same applies to Mike who was literally a hitman killing countless people for an evil druglord, yet people give him a pass because he's more likeable. Yes, of course Jesse has much more moral integrity and there's no denying Walter is irredeemable at this point but still, Jesse is far from being at no fault.

Gabriele

It's not the first time Walter doesn't give Jesse his money; fool me once.

Tzeiggi

As much as I love Mike's final speech, Jesse would be dead if Walter did as he was told. EDIT: I spoke too soon.

Jaroslav Dočekal

I don't think that's true, Gus wouldn't have let Walt go, he knew too much & also knew his intellect would perpetually pose a threat to him and his business long-term.

Paul

Mike wasn't 100% right with his rant, but I'm more on his side than Walt's. People need to keep in mind that Mike is also a flawed person with a skewed view on Gus. He might not know how close Hank got to catching Gus or that Gus threatened Walt's children. And even if Mike was wrong about the past, Walt immediately proves his point by taking out his anger and wounded ego on Mike.

Munir

I'm sorry spartan but Walter IS at fault for everything falling apart like it did. It was his pride and his ego like Mike said. It doesn't matter that he lost Gus's favor by saving Jesse or anything like that. At the end of the day Gus was okay with letting that go, use Jesse as a cook and even spare Walt's life for Jesse. The only reason Walt had to kill him was because he was not going to let Gus kill hank. And the only reason hank was onto Gus is because Walt told hank that Heisenberg might still be out, he only did that purely because he couldn't let gale take all the fame and glory for his meth. Walt could have just shut up, hank would not be a threat to Gus and Gus would have let Walt go peacefully.

Pablo

Walt is a monster at this stage, we can all agree to that. However, I don't think Mike was entirely fair in his accounting of events - Walt was happy playing his part and "knowing his place", it was Jesse that was pushing the boundaries and eventually forced Walt's hand in saving him from those two drug thugs he ran over. From that point on, it was him or Gus. There was never going to be any out for him, nor could he work for Gus in perpetuity. It doesn't justify killing Mike like this of course, and Walt only did so because his ego was bruised. Walt is a genius, but very fragile. If you attack his ego, you're in trouble.

Paul

It was the mid season finale.

Shawn Brink

Next episode was like a mid season finale for those that watched live.

Mama Browsss

Don't let Walt's pride distract you from Mike being wrong about Gus. Walt had to kill him to live. Mike was wrong about Lydia planting the bug and he was careless with Dan the lawyer. I love the dynamic of him & his granddaughter- these are professional criminals and human too. They make mistakes like most would in the real world.

Justin

You’re goddamn right

ThatGuy

"Say my Name". 🔥🔥 Heisenberg was not much more than a meth myth up until today. Once they realize who he is, Declan's actor especially portrays a delicate fear so perfectly. This old bald guy with glasses who dresses like an average American, is the biggest name in the meth business. This show is so good- it's almost surreal. Maybe the best moment in television history.

Justin


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