The Lord of The Rings: The Return of The King | Reaction & Review | Part 2

The Rings of Power TV show really is that bad. And I was a proponent for the show before it came out, thinking that maybe the diversity casting (and things of that nature) were being made out to be nonsensical controversies. I could care less that they casted a black woman to be a dwarven woman, as a matter of fact, she was one of my favorite characters in the show. That all said, to have the largest TV-show budget ever, and to make a show which will naturally be compared against the greatest Film Trilogy of all-time, Amazon REALLY DROPPED THE BALL. Between Tolkien's writings and Peter Jackson's interpretation, this Rings of Powers series comes across as an amateur fan fiction at best. Poor writing, mediocre acting, stale practical and CGI effects, and none of the magic or wisdom that is often ascribed to the LOTR. And trust me when I say I'm not a hater of media content, I love all sorts of story telling -- but this Rings of Power series in particular is legitimately bad television, regardless of whether it was about the LOTR Universe or not.

This is no mere Ranger.

I truly wish you guys would watch The Rings of Power series and not wait too long after you watch the Hobbit movies. I feel like if put into a poll, the majority would vote for watching regardless of what a lot of people will say. People act like the show is the most horrible thing to watch lol. It’s really not

Tylor Stafford

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SleeplessCSGO

The wizards are sent by the divine to keep order in the world, so at the end when gandalf went with the boat it was literally him going home, and Frodo went, because the wound from the Morgulblade at weathertop never healed

Speaking of practical effects of the time, some of the crowd shouts in the battle of Helms Deep in the second movie were recorded between innings of a cricket match between England and New Zealand by prompting enthusiastic fans.

Shannon Bey

Plus it really did fall victim to trilogy greed. LOTR is three respectable solid-length books. The Hobbit is a relatively short book meant to be read out loud to children, and really wasn't enough to carry a 9 hour trilogy.

Shannon Bey

heroes do good for good's sake. Gollum was not a hero. he was selfish and corrupted by the ring. He died trying only to cling to his precious. Every step of the way, he plotted to kill Frodo and steal the ring....every. step. of. the. way. the hero here is Sam! he was never corrupted by the ring, and aided Frodo to mt doom.

Nate Terry

Aragorn in the book is very different than the Aragorn in the movies. In the book, he never doubts his destiny and is, indeed, a serious badass throughout. I know why they changed him for the movies, but nevertheless I always pretty much hated it. In fact, I almost walked out of the first movie because of it.

M. Gideon Hoyle

In some ways, Gollum was the ultimate hero... If not for him, Frodo would have made the same mistake as Isildur, and Sauron would've returned to his full power. His ending is tragic yes, but neither he nor Frodo was the Lord of the Rings.

M. Gideon Hoyle

I second that

Will

Yes, be a Sam! (I think I know who that lady is 😉)

Raga Gopalakrishnan

Lets goo

SleeplessCSGO

Yea I gotta agree there. The Hobbit movies are light hearted fun - especially the first movie’s actually pretty good. The TV show on the other hand kicks everything that made Lotr great with its feet

Jan

Still kind of an odd scene - rlly all they had to do is show Eowyn break down before Eomer finds her. The way its put together it’s kind of confusing for the viewer. Nothing major but definitely a lil flaw in an otherwise perfect movie

Jan

I watched a reaction to this once, and the lady reacting said a wonderful thing about Sam. Everyone always points out what a great friend Sam is, and how lucky we are if we have a Sam in our lives, but she said 'We should all strive to be someone else's Sam.'

David Richardson

With a few friends about 6-7 years ago we were having a fun night drinking a couple of beers and just talking. Somebody suggested that we should write down all the things wrong with this trilogy, discuss it and if we all agreed drink as many shots as mistakes we agreed on. Gotta say it was a lot of silence and not a whole lot of drinking that night. This trilogy is pretty much perfect. The writing, the acting, the casting is epic, the structure of the movies and the soundtrack is just amazing. Instant classic after watching, its part of those movies I rewatch every year. In my opinion, the Hobbit Trilogy is not as good as this one ( but its a really high bar to hit again ) but still pretty good. Fun characters, and a lot of backstory and events that lead to the setup of the Fellowship, really worth watching. The TV show is terrible, very bad writing, laughable dialogues, shallow characters and stupid story. Checked out after 3 episodes I think which is a shame really, was really looking forward to that one. Great reaction guys, good fun all the way through.

neutchain

Some points about LotR: • A huge factor that benefitted the trilogy was that it had several years of pre-production. Everything was planned, hence why not only did it film back-to-back, but it was incredibly well thought out & complete (vs movies that had little pre-production and felt rushed/confusing i.e. each Star Wars trilogy) • The reason why Frodo left was because he felt like he 'died' during the journey. He didn't return as the same person he did when he left originally. Points about The Hobbit: • The main reason why the Hobbit was less well-received was because unlike LotR, it had a VERY SHORT pre-production schedule. It was originally supposed to be 1 movie by Guierllmo Del Toro. But he had a family crisis and left the project. The Hobbit license holders (MGM) panicked and hired Peter Jackson to return but he had little time and MGM last minute wanted a TRILOGY instead of one movie. Jackson openly admitted he "didn't know what he was doing" with the Hobbit trilogy. That said, the Hobbit is not a bad trilogy. It's a one last 'Greatest Hits' from the LotR team and it is a good fun set of movies. It's a damn shame Del Toro didnt film The Hobbit, that Peter Jackson only had less than a year for pre-production, and that this was turned into a trilogy.

I feel like that Trilogy cant come close to this one but that doesn't mean its bad, I quite like it but these three movies are perfection. Not easy feat to hit the marks this hard. And I also agree that they would like them very much.

neutchain

You guys might enjoy reacting to "The Fellowship after LOTR" by Nerd Of The Rings, its about 17 mins long and gives a really nice wrap up to what happens. It shows more of Legolas and Gimli's friendship, and Sam and Frodo etc.

Jozzer

It does in the movie to an extent, not sure it needed to happen at all. Guess that’s why it’s a deleted scene. The scene in the book is sort of similar minus the staff exploding, could have just done that. But yeah definitely and interesting character worth exploring in future media.

Professor Rizzard The Third

Yeah, Frodo basically fails to destroy the ring, but that's okay because no one can destroy it. He got it to where it needed to be, and fate basically helps with the rest.

Jozzer

Awesome reaction. Bit of a miss to not include Gandalfs speech of the white shores, but its fully understandable. Almost every scene is worth to include in a reaction, some gotta be cut. Genuinely cant wait for the hobbits and you guys hopefully catching some nice easter eggs.

Captainivy1

so technically where they went is just for the elves, but bilbo and frodo are afforded the honor due to being Ring bearers. Sam eventually goes as well, and then way later Legolas builds a boat so him and Gimli can go (gimli being the first and only dwarf to go to the undying lands)

The ring destroyed itself in a way. It had corrupted Gollum and frodo to such a degree that they were fighting over it and accidentally fell into the volcano. Evil ultimately caused its own downfall. Also Gandalf brought 3 eagles he hoped smeagol made it too.

Nick Huber

The heavy cavalry easily steamrolls through the orcs because what people forget is that orcs are realistically SMALL creatures, much smaller in mass to a human so for a horse its much easier to bust through an orc

15:26 I see those tears in your eyes, trust me even after the dozens of times i've watched the Ride of the Rohirrim it still does the same thing to me. "death, death, DEATH"

Far from perfect is the wrong wording. It is perfect as is, just different.

Griff

Great reactions! Pudgey trying so hard to keep it together after Aragorn said “my friends you bow to no one” was the icing on the cake 😂. I’ve watched these movies a over a dozen times and that line never fails to absolutely wreck me. Can’t wait for the hobbit videos!

Ray

In terms of Frodo leaving, the blade that the nazgul stabbed him with in the first movie on weathertop has been slowly killing him. Also, after long lives, merry and pippin eventually pass away and their bodies are moved to where aragorn gets burried

Sean Lobo

Well I find the canonical ending very poetic. Essentially, it's impossible to willfully throw the ring into the fire, and it's at, like, straight mind control that close to where it was created. It's supposed to be a defense mechanism. But then what happened is Gollum and Frodo fight for it and fall off the cliff. The ring was taken down by its own defense mechanism. Sauron pitting everyone against each other ultimately led him to pit Frodo and Gollum off the cliff.

Jonathanese

Lord of the Rings is an absolutely perfect film series for me aside from one thing--and it's not even literary, I understand that Frodo is the hero--but at the end when they're all saying "For Frodo!" and lamenting that Frodo was probably dead, I kept screaming in my head "AND SAM." Like that man is the heart and soul of this series. He got Frodo to the finish line. I was so indignant on his behalf. haha.

SNBangtan

oh damn! that hits different

CpaSpartan Pudgey

Also I won't spoil anything book or movie related, but the ending is slightly different in the books, and in the appendices they basically tell you more about everyone in the fellowship's lives after this and what happens to them...all I will say is there is more to Sam's story and I think it would warm your heart to read about that more, so I recommend you look into that!

David Theroux

Don't forget, an eagle rescued Gandalf from the top of Saruman's tower (Orthanc) in the early parts of Fellowship of the Ring. These are his kind. Giant eagles.

David Theroux

Lord of the Rings shows that even if the good guys win, the heroes have to suffer through a lot of trauma. The author JRR Tolkien was a World War I veteran, that's how Frodo's pain and suffering seems so real, and just like Frodo every broken soldier needed a Sam by his side.

D-Boy

The appendices of the books tell what happens later, such as Legolas getting special permission to bring Gimli with him to the Undying Lands and the sad fact that the vision Elrond saw of Arwen wandering the woods in her grief after Aragorn died of old age was actually what happened. There's so much more if you read all of Tolkien's works! Please do the Hobbit movies, trust me, you will be glad you did based on what you liked about these movies! The people that didn't like the Hobbit movies are mostly people that didn't like the changes made in the book-to-screen translation. If you think of them as fanfiction, they're fantastic! Also, please watch the behind the scenes stuff about special effects and make up and set designs, it's worth watching!! Even if you don't record your reactions to it for us lol.

MamaSeesa

You've probably gotten the answer already, but at the very end Frodo and Bilbo got to go because they were a ring bearer. And it basically scarred them for life and earned them the right to see the rest of their lives in the equivalent of heaven in the Lord of the Rings universe. Sam also gets to go there. But only goes when he's at a ripe old age having lived a hell of a bad ass life.

PostMan

I’m going away on vacation tomorrow morning and way praying part 2 would release before that. Prayers have been answered

Matt rasp

Eomer was crying in shock and grief over his sister because she wasn't supposed to be there. As far as he knows, she stayed home as ordered by the king. Remember that she used that helmet to hide her face so she could be part of the host. So Eomer is walking around a battlefield far from home and suddenly find his sister who seems grievously injured. So yeah he erupts in horror and grief.

Julien

Finest trilogy put to film, in my opinion. Phenomenal reaction, guys! There's always tears by the end 😂 With regard to Frodo leaving at the end: it's not because it's a risk for him to stay, but rather that as he said about the Shire, "and it has been saved - but not for me". After all the horror he'd gone through with the ring, nothing was the same for him anymore - including the Shire. You could call it PTSD. He just couldn't do it, so he chose to leave with the elves for a new life in the Undying Lands. With Bilbo, again, he wasn't a risk - but he'd been harping on about one last adventure, and the elves afforded him the same great honour of sailing with them on their last ship.

Doesn’t get better.

Mitch Krueger

The Elves and Dwarfs were fighting on different fronts against Mordor and the Easterlings further up North during the same period. I think that would have been too much for the films to cover unfortunately but the Hobbit films give them both their deserved attention!

It's Sam's major character flaw. In the movies, though, Faramir bears more responsibility for putting Smeagol back on the wrong path.

Kate

The writer, Tolkien, stated in a letter that Sméagol was seeking redemption genuinely, but it was Sam’s harsh treatment of him that kept that from fully taking place and he ultimately betrayed them. Had Sam not treated Sméagol so badly, then He would have willfully threw himself into the lava, knowing the ring had messed him up too much for him to destroy it any other way. I love both scenarios because it’s bittersweet

Angela

Already watched the full version, but the edited version is a different kind of fun. :) I know people have been saying it already, but I seriously cannot recommend the special features enough. They'll deepen your appreciation for the movies (there's a lot of work that went into them that doesn't show on film), and there's a good amount of lore--both what's in the books, and what was changed for the films. I'm going to miss your LotR content. I'm even watching The Hobbit with you, I'm that hooked. 🤣 Pudgey's "It's me, bitch!" with Aragorn and the Palantir should be a new LotR meme. Spartan's comment on Sam carrying Frodo on his shoulders is perfection.

Kate

It makes sense in the movie. My nitpick regarding the WK is when Gandalf says Sauron has yet to reveal him. Huh. Guy was running around Eriador chasing Frodo and even stabbed him in the first film. They should have explained that being wholly owned by Sauron, the Nazgul get stronger closer to Mordor. The Witch King singlehandledly destroyed the northern kingdom of Arnor. That period is among my favorites in the legendarium. I wish someone would make a good story/series/movie about it.

Julien

A small detail that always breaks me is when Gandalf and the eagles pick Frodo and Sam up, Gandalf brought a third Eagle and it even pauses for a second and looks to the ground, he brought one for Smeagol hoping he'd be redeemed

DC99

👀👀👀

CpaSpartan Pudgey

Interesting. I've always wondered how younger audiences who grew up with the films would like the books. I'd.be curious to hear more!

Julien

What a trilogy, absolutely epic. The “you bow to no one” moment kills me everytime P.s. the scene with Gandalf and the witch king blowing up his staff doesn’t happen in the books or at least their confrontation ends with a stalemate and the witch king fleeing., Gandalf is a lot more powerful in the books obviously the films can’t fully cover everything. Too long to fully explain, but that’s my only nit pick of the films.

Professor Rizzard The Third

‘The Lord of The Rings’ films made such a massive impression on me as a young fantasy enthusiast. When I later read the books, I was absolutely shocked to find that they books offer the superior version in nearly every way, yet I never stopped loving the films any less, because there is so much heart & soul transferred into the works that you can’t help but be amazed by it. These films, far from perfect, still deserved all of their recognition.

Poseidonc12

Pudgey is definitely going to cry in this video. Calling it now

Sean Carroll