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Game of Thrones 8x6 Reaction & Review

Game of Thrones Reaction & Review S8 E6 | 'The Iron Throne'


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Game of Thrones 8x6 Reaction & Review

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Spartan was so desperate for Jon to be King of something that they could of said Jon, you’re gonna be the King of the iron islands and Spartan would of been like, I’ll take it lol

Chaz D

Remember that Jon is undead. And remember Aliser Thorne's curse: "You're be fighting these wars forever." In the novels, the character Benjen ended up playing is thousands of years old, and could be the last Azor Ahai, and so it may be that Jon's purpose is to roam the north forever. The story is supposed to be bittersweet and circular.

H Duane Sharpe

Honestly Drogon was the mvp of this episode. All of his shots were really cool. Glad everything in this series all leads up to Drogon looking cool and doing cool stuff in the finale.

Franky E

Not Pudgey throwing her Targaryen shirt on the floor 😂😂

Franky E

I know that scene also got some backlash but I thought it was really sweet too! She really his final moments some dignity. “Died protecting his queen” like regardless of how it all went down, I have to admit that hit me a bit

Franky E

Symbolism

Jan

"and whos got a better story than bran the broken" EVERYONE TYRION! EVERYONE!!

big harsher

First people to think that was snow instead of ashes. Lol.

Michael Neal

Bran "had the best story". That's why he wasn't in an entire season. Too many issues with this season to go into here. Season 1-4 each season-10/10. Season 5-7/10. Season 6-9/10. Season 7-7.5/10. Season 8-3/10.

Meraxes

Tbh, when I watched the last season of Game of Thrones I felt kind of disconnected to it because during the long wait between season 7 and 8, I watched A LOT of prediction videos and read some fan fiction. Watching season 8 was like checking off on a list the events that were supposed to happen. Perhaps that is my fault and not the fault of the writers cause some things are supposed to happen/make sense. However, a couple things surprised me like Arya killing the Night King and Bran becoming king. I read some of the books and I really liked that Tyrion called him “Bran the Broken” because Bran called himself that in his head when he was still trying to cope with being crippled. There are a lot of famous Brandon Starks in his ancestry like “Bran the Builder”. Bran was ashamed that he would probably be known solely for his disability. Little did he know that the name that he once used to belittle himself will be used to empower him and others. Everyone at the time went into episode 6 knowing that Dany was probably gonna die by one hand or another. Having Jon do it made sense because he was probably the only one that she would trust to get close enough to her without her soldiers around her or Drogon. && Jon was the only one capable of getting past Drogon. It’s like Maester Aemon said, “There is a day in every man’s life where he must choose.” && I respect Jon for making that choice because I know that either way he would end up questioning if he made the right one for the rest of his life. As someone who struggles with making decisions I respect his courage to do something instead of waiting to see what will happen. He ensured a future for his family and Westeros because Dany would no longer be a threat. I love Dany as a character and after episode 5, I thought I had mentally prepared myself for her death. When she died I was sad, but then the scene was over pretty soon and not revisited much. So I don’t think I really got a chance to really feel her death until I rewatched the episode a few times. I’ve never had anyone I’ve loved pass away (thank God), so I don’t truly know what it feels like to grieve for someone. But idk, the months following the ending of Game of Thrones, I feel as if I truly grieved for the loss of Daenerys’ character. It felt like a sunken hole in my chest. I grieved for the little girl who only ever dreamed of home. I grieved for who she could have been. It’s not just because of how she died or that she died. It felt like Dany truly died in episode 5 when she burned all the innocents in Kingslanding.

Ariadna Fundora Benitez

Bran all season: ‘I will never be king.’ Bran this episode. ‘I’m king.’

Hari Randhawa

I think we'll see him become king in the show for whatever reason

Juan

good idea!

Supernei

I actually love that Jon went back North of the wall. He will probably be their king. We will find out when his show starts.

Can you guys please do a re-reaction to the first episode of House of the Dragon. Just the first one. So then you can feel the impact that we all felt when the first episode aired. I actually cried.

Betty Alice

He was already in season 3.

DrückebergerTV

Symbolically, yes, it’s quite tragic, but I personally wouldn’t say gross. A common theme in her arc is being abused/taken advantage by men (Drogo, Viserys and several nobleman in Essos with whom she did business) and her learning how to overcome such setbacks and reclaim power for herself (i.e. the bedroom scene with Drogo, Viserys’ death scene, killing the Slave Masters, burning the man from whom she bought the unsullied, locking the nobleman in his safe, etc.). As the show progresses, however, she responds to abuse (verbal or otherwise) and any attempt to deny her the power to which she feels obligated with increasing amounts of aggression and force. My feeling is that this is not only because she learns that brute force is the most effective way to get what she wants, but also because she has years of repressed trauma from her years of essentially being raised by her psychopathic and abusive older brother (and from her brief time as a glorified sex slave). As time went on, men pushed her and pushed her until finally she broke with the burning of King’s Landing (also interesting to note how it was Cersei, a woman, who attempted to deny Dany the seat of power she most coveted and who ultimately pushed Dany over the edge to, arguably, commit her first act of truly unjustified evil). Men abused their power over her, she claimed power for herself by mimicking their tactics (both by choice and due to repressed traumas manifesting later), another woman tried to deny her the ultimate seat of power, she then snapped and killed thousands of innocent people. She unintentionally became one of the very monsters she had so desperately worked to conquer/overcome/destroy throughout the show. Ironically, she was killed by the only men who never grossly abused or took advantage of her in some way (Tyrion convinced Jon to do it so he was just as involved) and the fact that it was carried out during a kiss represents Jon’s internal conflict - he truly loved her and had no desire to harm or use her, but his duty to the realm demanded it (He loved her, but she loved power… and she only learned to love power because she was so deprived of it by the gross men present throughout her life). It’s really just a tragedy for both parties, imo (and very, very rushed).

Kris Brown

Martin also doesnt believe in "Themes" when writing storys just like D&D. Source: https://youtu.be/Fvr_-Hh50eg (starts at 06:13)

DrückebergerTV

Dup, your take was the most nuanced and refreshing one i read since i got here. Thank you for understanding this masterpiece.

DrückebergerTV

That's one way to call everyone stupid who happens to have an opinion that differs from yours. Must be nice to walk around as a clearly superior being among us peasants.

neutchain

Where do I whine ? Saying Danny is the embodiment of historical events, the incarnation of nihilism, is whining ? Danny is the woke west. Danny is the French revolution and its Terror period. And that botters you obviously. None of the comments, beginning with yours, adress this. So don't speak to me about whining when it's literally what your few lines are about : whining about my "retrograde opinion on modern culture". If that makes any sense to begin with. Because you do not know anything about my opinion on this matter :) Guess what, I agree about the "happy" ending on all the characters, particularly on this council thing with Bran being the king. Or Tyrion. You're right. Again, you're missing the point : Danny has no happy ending. And that got some people, if not many, mad. Here you get yourself angry because I wrote "woke". And then you go on about the "little white girl". You don't see the irony, do you ? Plus, one can argue that as far as "happily ever after" goes, one can really make a better Disney ending. I don't recall "the princess burns everyone and is killed by the prince" as a typical Disney ending. I don't see the big happy ending there, sorry. Yes it could have been worse. But saying that doesn't make it a happy ending either. The mere fact you get this angry over my comment just make me think I'm even more right than I thought before writing all this. Chill. Its a show. Its only my take on the ending. Well, I wasted to much time here. thought it would be some discussions and exchange. But its just people being angry for "some" reason. Who knows :)

Dup Dupix

Thats book purists opinions, they are valid, but also easily offended by any change the show did or gods forbid go against their headcannon about unwritten books.

DrückebergerTV

Because i speak the truth no one wants to here.

DrückebergerTV

I know that my efforts are fruitless against an uneducated hivemind, i will still speak the truth when people startet to lie.

DrückebergerTV

What was unanswered? Where were plotholes? What didnt make sense?

DrückebergerTV

This is just you whining about the "woke West." You didn't even pay attention to anything. This ending was as happy as one can get save for Dany. They literally kept all the goody-two-shoes characters alive and fan favorites alive. Brienne is not only finally a knight, but she's head of the Kingsguard. She is probably one of the quintessential hero characters in the show. Tyrion, as flawed as he is, was painted as unambiguously good even after committing murder several times. He becomes hand of the king. Arya goes out to journey west. Sansa, the typical little white girl, becomes queen of the north and has a growth arc. Sam, someone who should've died in S2, the epitome of a "good" character and literal self-insert by the author, is a maester. Bron, the comedic dude-bro character, is somehow still relevant. Jon didn't get the throne, which he never wanted, and gets to return north where he was happiest albeit in exile. Davos, another epitome of a "good" character, is....doing whatever he's doing. People's issue with the ending was that it WAS a happy ending. All the main good and boring characters got exactly what they've been craving since their introduction. The few people they did kill in S8 were minor characters whose death had already been telegraphed a mile away. THIS was the Disney ending we didn't want. The fact you can look at this and see all the tropes they adhered to have a huge payoff and see the creators say "themes are for book reports" and still say people are upset because it WASN'T a happy ending shows you don't know what you're talking about and you just wanted to get on a soap box and cry about your retrograde opinion on modern culture.

Rahneian Madsgs

I quote myself : "Yes it could have been longer". And something ironic along the line "Yes like 8 seasons wasn't enough". I get it. You wanted more episodes. It could have been nice. Maybe. Some people wanted to rewrite certain passage. Other wanted to do BOTH. You taking Spartan comment on Jon with the dragon doesn't change the fact that the vaste majority of comments and critics towards season 8 is not on such secondary aspect. But on HOW it ended. Especially about the choice for Daenerys to turn into "madness". I mean, I was there, alive, I saw, I heard people. You can't just say its not true to me... Man, you're taking such a personnal take on what I'm saying... I have no woke obsession just because I spoke the forbidden word and I built myself an analysis around that. I'm analysing a work of art and depicting what I sense is the deeper meaning behind it. Even more so as I find its a really fitting for the world we're living in. Mock my "deep" meaning all you want. Its surely shitty according to you. It is still my take on it. You're just building a strawman argument by claiming that i'm obsessed by wokism and such. Or by implying I'm saying woke people defend communism... What does this have to do with anything about GoT and Daenerys ? But to be 100% clear, yes I'm really not a woke advocate and sympathizer. So what ? I'm a huge fan of metal music. 80% at least of them are what I would call woke. Should I stop listening to good music because I don't agree with some positions they make ? That's non sense. That would make me the reverse side of the same coin as far as I'm concerned if I stoped listening to music just because of that. Its just sad honestly to have to explain such things. The same goes with GoT. I don't care about "woke or not woke". That's really not what I'm discussing about here. We can have another discussion about that if you want. But again, I don't care one bit about it so you'll have it without me. I used the term woke because it speak to most people nowdays. But I gave you example of French revolution. Or communism. "What you are describing is madness". No. It's nihilism. That the word I'm looking for and that I wrote. And that's the common point between woke, anti colonialism, anti racism, feminism and so on. That's the common point between Daenerys and French revolution. Nihilism and a pure utopia led by people claming to free the world from oppression. And as I said, I'm lazy to have a discussion about nihilism here. In fact I even hesitated to respond to your comment. I get it that there is this madness thing with Daenerys. I explained myself badly there I feel. Madness is like the first layer of her character. Theres always many layers to any book, painting or art in general. If we want we can stop at that and so be it. I tried to go beyond that. Not saying my explanation is good or perfect. It's my own. Nihilism is what plague our society nowdays. Myself included. I see nihilism in Daenerys. Period. You agree or not. But don't go on the field of "you're anti woke, you see wokism everywhere bla bla bla". It has nothing to do with the discussion about Daenerys or the ending. Neither does the conversation about the showrunners orientation. Even more so when saying the showrunners are on the left doesn't prove anything. French revolution was led by what we would today call 'leftists". There are more often than not contradictories in ourself. Contradictories in art. Paradoxes. One fact advocates for it : they clearly went for the Danny "I'm good" and "I know what's good for people". She says it. Yes you can say she is just mad at the time. Maybe she was. I may have explained myself badly there. I just see something beyond the madness that was there since the beginning. I won't explain it all over again. As I said, we can stop at that madness element and be happy with it. I'm not because it just too simple for GoT. Or too simple with history too. "They were mad and killed hundred of thousands people in Vendée and lit the country on fire". Actually, there are event leading to this massacre. A philosophy. An utopia. Its not just madness for madness. There are underground layers to the madness witnessed. Nihilism gives a explanation for it. And its supported by historical facts. Be it true or not, believe it or not, that's a discussion to have. I'm just giving my perception of Daenerys character and how it fits. "Do you think she saved the witch that was raped by Dothraki in season 1 and all those in that village because she felt like it? Why try and further stop this Dothraki tradition in it's tracks, risking her own life? Did she ask for the Iron Born to do no more reeving and raping because she was just feeling nice that day? She hated the fighting pits because she did not like people butchering each other, it's certainly not that she would prefer to be the one doing the murder, that's absurd." Hmmmm I don't understand the question here. And for the part about doing herself the butchering, again, I don't understand your take on my comment... All those fact advocate for what I say : Daenerys is a nihilistic woman that don't care about tradition or culture because it doesn't fit her perfect world. As long as a fly dies, oppression must be eradicated. No matter the costs. No matter Dothraki like pillaging. No matter Iron Born love reeving. No matter the folks love their good old fighting pit : there's death so its bad. And lastly, about the religion and tradition part, and the faith militant. Well, in the two examples I find fit the best, french revolution and communism, religion and tradition had nothing to do with it. Quite the opposite. Both utopia were strongly built against tradition and religion (churches burned, priest killed, "religion is the opium of people", etc. I won't do a history course). It didn't matter that many people loved their tradition or their religion. I get what you're saying about the faith militant on the "we know what's good for you". In a sense yes, their utopia may not be so diffrent and would surely lead to many deaths. We just don't see it and they are not the one killing thousands in the show. Nor does the biggest tragedy in real life happened due to religion or tradition. Maybe I interpreted wrongly what you say : "It [religion and tradition, i guess] is the cause of the vast majority of bloodshed, that is an undeniable reality". Communism, French revolution, 1st and 2nd World war, Opium war, Vietnam... Millions of people died not because of some tradition or religion. The biggest massacre of mankind had nothing to do with religion or tradition. So i dont see the "undeniable reality". Because there are strong examples to go against that. Bloodshed and oppression happens because its human nature. And fighting against those tragedies means, in the end, fighting against our human nature (aka nihilism, aka Danny). Which then leads to bigger tragedies than the one we were fighting against. That's the whole paradox. Again, butchering and mass killing is what happen in the French Revolution. An ideal of an utopian world freed from oppression, led by people that do not accept life tragedies (aka Daenerys not accepting Missandei death, her dragons deaths, even Khal Drogo's death. Or just not accepting anything horrible in life), more often than not ends up in tragedy. Agree or not, defend woke people, attack myself for being anti-woke or what you want, it doesn't change this fact. I see Daenerys as the embodiment of this mere fact. She the incarnation of modern nihilism and self destruction in search for a better world. Nothing more, nothing less. You don't agree with it, its all fine.

Dup Dupix

Nah the fans weren't to blame. A middle schooler could have written a more coherent last season than what was given to us. So many things unanswered. So many plot holes. The problem with this season wasn't the fact that the fans were expecting their theories to be true and the show went in a different direction that what they had imagined, it was the fact that the writing was just plain horrible and didn't make sense.

Jacob Hatfield

You guys need to watch Lost next

Nick

They made Chadmure look like a scrub so Sansa could have girl power

Juan

"I feel people are mad because they dont get a happy ever after." You haven't even bothered to read the complaint of a single person, including Spartan and Pudgy. As they explained, the ending is not the issue, it's how it gets there. It's the ham-fisted nature of all that happens in Season 8. A good example (and there are many) is when Jon rides Rhaegal, it's treated as a quick rollercoaster ride and has absolutely no meaning at all. This relationship should have had at least had *some* build up, form some sort of bond with the dragon named after his father. Riding him should have been a season finale moment, not some throwaway thing. What should have been something deep and meaningful, ends up being the equivalent of a one night stand, empty and meaningless. Does he even say the word "Rhaegal"? I think he does, once. They couldn't depict these things in a satisfying way because they needed to speed-run to the end, quick time. No time to waste. It's not that the creators are incompetent, as some say, but that they didn't give themselves enough time. "Woke people, anti-racist, anti-capitalist, all those peoples claiming that they will build a better world" I do hope you understand that the creators of this show are firmly on the left. This interpretation is simply tied directly to your "woke" obsession, and therefore absolutely everything has to relate to that, you perceive absolutely everything through that lens, but this is certainly not what the showrunners intended, that's not the take as you said, it is purely within your own imagination. It's quite ironic because Game of Thrones actually came under fire from these "anti-woke" reactionaries in later seasons, yet you're defending it. I assume you disagree with all those who claimed Game of Thrones was going woke? This is the issue, even more so now than then, *everything* has to be "woke" now. It's culture war nonsense, idiots on both sides. Thankfully most people are neither extreme and could care less. That's coming from someone who has criticized those who want to censor certain views. May I add that the average "woke" person, at least those that are claimed to be woke, do not necessarily advocate for communism. Simply being in possession of a rainbow flag is enough to be woke these days, which is just as silly as those who call everyone racist. "That's what many episodes of history tells us." Yeah, and the vast majority of it has nothing to do with being woke. It turns out the religion and tradition you say they hate, is a large part of all of that suffering. It is the cause of the vast majority of bloodshed, that is an undeniable reality. Indeed the Faith Militant and the Seven is a very clearly fictional take of religion in the real world and this exact "we know what's best" mentality that you speak of, except it isn't in your imagination and fits far better than anything in the show being a take on the "woke", so it would be far better to make that connection instead. "Its not a descent into madness." Once again this is what the creators of the show intended to depict. Her losing everyone and and then losing her mind, like happened with many Targaryen's, it was developed. I feel like this can only be a semantics game, but pray tell what made her father any different? By every definition of the word it is a descent into madness. Any assertion that she has been like that since the beginning has absolutely not paid attention or chooses to ignore parts of the story. Do you think she saved the witch that was raped by Dothraki in season 1 and all those in that village because she felt like it? Why try and further stop this Dothraki tradition in it's tracks, risking her own life? Did she ask for the Iron Born to do no more reeving and raping because she was just feeling nice that day? She hated the fighting pits because she did not like people butchering each other, it's certainly not that she would prefer to be the one doing the murder, that's absurd. Like I said, your interpretation is purely within your own imagination and certainly is not implied or intended by the creators. Of course it is tied to her belief that she's correct, many people believe they're correct, but that doesn't mean that she gave water to crucified individuals because she had an end game in mind, she actually cared. Creators intent is all that matters here, and they would certainly not claim that she was capable of baby genocide from the beginning, Martin or the showrunners. The issue everyone has with what happened is that it wasn't done well. Killing the human shields by destroying the Red Keep would have been a logical progression of her madness arc, accepting their deaths a by product of war. But that's not what happens, she goes out of her way to kill babies and children, nearly allowing her enemy to escape. I suppose without the city burning there is no spectacle, it's just not as epic. "Maybe an advisor is ill intentionned. Maybe sons of nobles are speaking in my back and may challenge me to build the wheel again." What you are describing is MADNESS. That's the word you're looking for. Literally the same exact paranoid delusions that her father had. Her father developed madness, also.

Jake Follain

You could say that the thousands of babies she just massacred (after the war being won) was also gross and violating, lets prevent thousands more babies being cooked, seems reasonable enough to me. You take the next opportunity to end it, period.

Jake Follain

Hahah the one thing I won’t miss about these reactions is having to read that guy’s comments anymore

Gummybear

Never enjoyed Dany’s ending here- we started the show with her character experiencing intimate partner violence (even though she eventually loved Drogo, it was still IPV) and we end with her character experiencing the same kind of intimate violence from yet another partner. Say what you want about her needing to die- stabbing her while she was in such an intimate, vulnerable moment is just gross and so so violating.

Brittany Proffitt

Personally I really liked S5 and S6! I felt it here and there in S7.. and then S8 came. I really wish I had the patient to just read the books instead x_x

AzukaLockheart

Can't say about the books, can just hope that G.R.R will be done with the series someday ;__; I know I should read the books but I'm not much of a reader, but I've heard from, well, pretty much everyone that's read the books that they're displeased about the final seasons of the tv show ^^'

AzukaLockheart

Thats kind of what I'm assuming. But not fully what I say. I'm just saying people that claim to be good, people that want to make the world better, people assuring you they know what is good for all of us, are more often than not monsters in disguise. Those people are tyrant if you give them the opportunity to. That's what many episodes of history tells us. That's why I find the parallel with the French revolution to be on point. Of course she believed in her utopia. That's the dangerous point. And she was encouraged by people joining her. Assuring her she would be THE queen. A good queen. In search for a perfect world, people are ready to do anything. Because this utopia is good. They are good people. So people that oppose that are necessarily bad. There's no middle ground in their mind. Because there is no middle ground in an utopia. Only whats good and whats not. We saw that with the fighting pits thing for example. People wanted to fight. Because it was their culture. Their tradition. Be it for the masters or the fighters. She was disgusted by it. In her world, there will be no fighting. No death. No calamity. No tragedy. Unless she decides there will be deaths. Unless she had to kill people opposed to her true vision. She doesnt care for culture or tradition. She doesnt care for the people. Her hate for the "wheel", aka the system, the rich, the masters, was the fuel that drove her. Not love for the "people". What did she know of the people apart that slavery is bad and slaves need to be freed ? And yes, she was power hungry. Since the beginning she tells it. She's the rightful queen. But the rightful queen according to who ? To what ? According to the "wheel" she claims she'll destroy ? In her perfect world, wouldn't a leader be chosen by his people ? She wasn't chosen. She just came with dragons and foreigner armies to assert her claim. And we would go on and on with many experiences she had. But in the end, I just feel its a really good take on what we nowdays have with "Social justice warriors". With woke people. With people with no roots claiming they would make the world better given they had enough power. Give them the means to conduct their utopia, they'll only leave blood and ashes in their path. They can't build something. They only destroy or corrupt what has been standing for centuries. Because love for the oppressed is nothing compared to their hate of human nature, tradition, culture, religion... You name it, theres nothing that was built for thousands of years they dont see as outdated. Daenerys is the embodiment of social justice warriors. Or to have a more accurate term : nihilism. But that would be a way too long discussion I'm a bit lazy to have to be honest.

Dup Dupix

Yep, the best thing about this rewatch was definitely them. Rarely see someone soo deeply interested in a show or movie like they are and I respect them for it because this kind of passion always results in genuine feelings and reactions and it was a lot of fun to watch. Next time I decide to rewatch the show I will definitely do it synced up to their full-length vids but will pull a break after season 6 and cherrypick what I watch from the last two seasons. BTW I'm sure this guy will turn up soon to tell me how wrong I am again and what a masterpiece the last season is.

neutchain

I take it as Drogon was smart enough to understand about who Jon and Dany are not just to the Dragons but to other people and their connection to the throne (Drogon is said to be a reincarnation of Balerion the Black Dread, Aegon the Conqueror's Dragon who helped forge the Iron Throne). But, he misunderstood and thought Jon killed her for the throne and wanted to leave him alive without the throne, partly to make him feel as Drogon does without Dany and partly because even Drogon can't bring himself to kill the last of his family.

Snair

That empty feeling is so real 🥲 I still feel it years later when I think about this show. Never have become as attached to a show before or since, (except maybe friends). Thank you for allowing us to relive the journey with you ❤️

Gummybear

What innocent noblemen has she burned?

Gummybear

You comment on every single persons comment that says anything mildly negative about the show, how healthy is that??? Stop paying money to argue with the majority. You’re not convincing anyone

Gummybear

You’re tripping

Gummybear

Agreed the last 3 episodes of season 8 give you whiplash

Gummybear

Agreed, the new system is just a setup for complete chaos.

Gummybear

You’re the only toxic echochamber here

Gummybear

I'm not sure I understand your view of Danny. Are you saying that Danny was sincere, until she got to the finish line, and then gave in to a natural desire to be a tyrant when she saw she could? Or was she just power hungry from the beginning, and just using the ideals to gain supporters, without fully believing in them? Or what exactly?

Jack S

Its not a descent into madness. Thats the thing. And thats why people complain about writing, thinking we did not see the madness enough. Theres not twist. Shes not mad like her father. Shes just embodiement of a revolution that claims to make the world better. Nothing about madness there. Its just its nature. Danny has been like that since the beginning. She wanted to free the world of what she considers evil. She was seen as pure and innocent. She saw herself like that. No matter the cost her dream of breaking the wheel needed to come true. And there you have it, death and fire. Just like the French revolution. And if you still want to support the revolution then you have to tell yourself lies. Just like with Daenerys. "Its badly written". Its not the writing of the century, sure. Saying its bad is a lie. "It should have been longer, like 6 more episodes". Like 8 seasons wasnt enough. Im convinced people first and foremost didnt like how it ended rather than how it was written. Just look how many treads and youtube videos were made about "alternative" ending. Many of them, if not all, changed the story completly. Daenerys so called madness was THE most controversial thing.

Dup Dupix

It's an interesting analysis, but I don't your reason for people not liking the ending is true. The trope of "idealistic revolution turned out to be evil" is not new. As many people here commented, if Danny's descent into madness had been executed well, it would've made for a very interesting twist. But it just wasn't, and that's why people didn't like the ending. Bad storytelling.

Jack S

I’m scared to watch 🥹🥹

Gummybear

As far as the ending goes, I feel people are mad because they dont get a happy ever after. Especially about Daenerys : people believed in her and thought she would save the world. Call that a wishful thinking. That's what many people want nowdays IRL. Unfortunately, many of us did not understand what was going on with the character since episode 1. And many of us did not understand what danger lies with such utopia. In the show or IRL. We did hide under the explanation that "it was badly written". Ok, season 8 wasn't the best writing ever. Still, Daenerys unfoldings made perfect sense. Only if you see her under the light of nihilistic utopia. Such as what happened during French Revolution. Or with communism. Or with what we begin to live today with "wokism". Daenerys is the personification of the French Revolution turning into the Terror. Daenerys is the personnification of communism turning millions of people into goulags. Daenerys is the personification of what is going on with the West for some time now. Utopia ALWAYS turns into "madness". Not because the utopia or the people are mad. But because the philosophy guiding them is wrong to begin with. "Hell is paved with good intentions". Nowdays we name it wokism, anti-racism, anti-capitalism. All those peoples claiming that they will build a better world. That our society is rotten to its core, that we should be ashamed of our history. Bla bla bla. They KNOW what is good for everyone. They are BETTER than the mortal commoner. They are the WISEST people to ever breath since the beginning of mankind. "If I would rule, I would build such a perfect world. A world in my image". You want a spoiler ? Beware of such people. Such utopia conducted by unchallenged leader will lead to deaths for the common folks. That is exactly what Tyrion understood in the end. That is exactly what happened with the French Revolution. It started as a turmoil against the nobles. It ended with peasants heads chop down. Children burned. Church destroyed. Communism followed the same path. You couldn't rise an eye brow to question the utopia. Its what happened in our French Revolution. Hundred of thousands of people butchered while defeding "liberty" and bringing monarchy down. A whole region, Vendée, massacred because they rose against what they felt was injustice. It doesn't matter that they supported the revolution against the King. Because in the end they simply questionned the Revolution. Their life didn't improved, quite the opposite. Their churches were brought down. Their priests either swore to serve the Republic or unacknowledged. Meaning they could be killed. People hide to have official mass. Then the Republic came asking for people to serve in the army against foreign nations. To defend this great revolution. That was too much : why should those people bleed for a revolution that has brought nothing good to them for years ? They refused to serve and armed themselves. Women, children, man, it doesn't matter, thousands were killed. Like 25% of the people living in Vendée according to historians. Some in oven burned to death, drown in rivers, hanged in the street. Or just killed in combat for the luckiests. Death squadrons did go through villages and burned it all for miles and miles. Imagine what those people would have done if they had dragons. You can't be against the "good" people. Because what does that make you ? Its exactly what happened with communism. The love of the poorest was just an excuse to hide the hate for the richest. Danny is exactly that. She freed the slave. But not without some massacres on the masters. She keep on going about her claim to break the wheel. But in the end, all she cared for was to sit on the iron throne. What an irony : she swore to destroy the exact same thing that gave her the right to sit on the throne. Until Jon true identity came out. It did not matter : the power was hers. She knows better. She's good. But then, you have power, how can it be over ? There is still a world to free ! More poor people harmed by the wheel. Even if they do not know that they are crushed by it, "I know it, I know what is good for humanity". So the war must go on. It is never ending. Maybe an advisor is ill intentionned. Maybe sons of nobles are speaking in my back and may challenge me to build the wheel again. That's exactly what happend with communism, again. When the richest were dealt with, they had to find anothers. Because there are always rich people. So they did go for the landowners. And so on and so on. Until millions of people were put in goulags. Even people that believed in this great utopia. That's why many people were and still are mad about GoT. Because unconsciously, the story told by Daenerys character goes against their opinion. It goes against the story they told themselves in real life. We think its just "madness". But under the madness there is a guiding line : nihilism. Thats the common point between French Revolution, communism and Daenerys character. Once I understood all of that, i found the depiction of Danny to be very good. They showed enough for us to have a doubt about her intention until the end and still be chocked when she burns all of it. And as far as i'm concerned, I'm sure that's what Martin was going for. Because he loves history so much, 90% of his books are inspired by it. Be it the war of the roses or the hundred years war. His favourite and biggest inspiration is the saga of "The cursed kings". Written by a French, Maurice Druon. Wonderful books. So I wouldnt be surprised Danny revolution is hell of a lot inspired from the French one. Because reality is always better than fiction if you dig a bit.

Dup Dupix

you should rewatch the series again in a year or so you will catch things you missed i have watched it several times

Alexander Cload

When did the books fall apart? 12 years ago? 23 years ago?

DrückebergerTV

Well People who are experiencing the story later like S&P enjoy it allready a lot more. They were not part of toxic echochamber.

DrückebergerTV

People here stir up over old stories, hatewatch it and pay money for it. D&D didnt need to attend that convention at all snymore. They delivered, they dont need to justify anything, people would tear to shreds no matter what they would say. The Story tells the story.

DrückebergerTV

And you will pay money to rewatch what you hate. Healthy.

DrückebergerTV

Ratings are influenced by the negative and betrayed Masses who wanted a disney ending.

DrückebergerTV

Did S&P thought the episode was horrible as well? If not, why?

DrückebergerTV

Who cares? Bottle was removed. Why dont you talk about greenscreens and cgi fingers in house of the dragon? Condal must have stopped caring by season 1.

DrückebergerTV

Smallfolk suffered more in riverlands. In the north the high lords suffered just as much thats why they left.

DrückebergerTV

If Game of Thrones Finale was bad writing, so was Breaking Bads. I could just as easy try to destroy every scene in Final episode if i approach it in bad faith like every season 8 hater.

DrückebergerTV

D&D broke the fourth wall more times than any before in 8x6, this wasnt of of those times. Your opinion doesnt matter in that regard at all.

DrückebergerTV

He also says he doesnt want to be King... and yet still he is. Being King makes him a Lord. He was never gonna continue any bloodline as Lord of any castle.

DrückebergerTV

Alex is a Wall? Im Still waiting by the way for you to annhihilate my points. Im afraid Winds of Winter will be out sooner.

DrückebergerTV

the fact that you really think Drogon would just jump ship from dany to jon after he killed her is hilarious lmao. where have you been 8 seasons, that was his MOTHER. dragons are very intelligent

Julia

IDK check ratings and compare them to earlier seasons?

neutchain

Catelyn high-fives herself in her grave! :)

neutchain

Shhh everything is fine nothing to see here. Bad writing?? If you dont look it doesn't exist. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s04 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s08

neutchain

No idea what bottle you're talking about... :) https://imgur.com/a/7iSBHJZ

neutchain

no issues whatsoever https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s04 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s08

neutchain

I agree that the last two seasons had a lot of really nice moments 100% agree on that. But the truth is, the earlier season had a few bad moments and the rest of the season was super high-quality top-shelf TV. I wish it stayed that way.

neutchain

Man, you're going through everyone's comment defending this crap as if the fact that it needs defending isn't obvious enough. Nobody needed the feel to defend the show after season 3 or 4 because it was close to flawless. What the actors say 2 years after the show ended is not necessarily the same thing they said earlier. They process things and move on with their life and 2 years old stuff is in the past, most people don't want to stir shit up over old history. Try to look up some UK interviews, especially radio ones, Kit Harington walked that line pretty closely a few times as well as Liam Cunningham. Also if everything went fine Dumb and Dumber would've turned up at Comic Con along with the rest of the crew after all they just wrapped up the biggest TV show of all time. They were announced to be going and pussied out last minuted leaving the cast to answer all the hard questions taking no responsibility for anything and simply refusing to face the fans who got them where they were at that point. https://youtu.be/SGGkZdhJWoU?t=25 Its still an outstanding TV show with great writing both character and story in the first half, then it gets reduced to good story writing for two more seasons, then it further drops into a TV show that has great CGI and excellent music plus a lot of nice moments between characters we love. Its a downward spiral and if you dont see this there is really not much anyone can do I honestly couldn't care less if you chose to die on that hill.

neutchain

started falling in 5, continued falling in 6 and then fell apart in 7 altogether, 8 just added fire on top of it

Sean Carroll

100 years from now "Scuse me ser, can yu decipher this writing, I cant make head nor tails of dis"

Sean Carroll

all of it is trash but the season 5 and 6 portion you mentoned is far better then these last 3 episodes

Sean Carroll

i for one do not want them to feel miserable but i am not one to stay silent about something which i loved and eventually detested, I will state my opinion

Sean Carroll

go back to my comment on episode 8x3, i listed at least 25 points as to why that episode was atrocious, if you like i can do the same for the rest of the shit episodes in the series. You are the one who mindlessly defends something which cannot be defended, you constantly lose these debates in the comments, everyone here knows youre on D&Ds payroll

Sean Carroll

in the original airing of the episode there was a water bottle next to sams feet, come on man, why would they just go along with something, 90% of them dont even know who bran is, why would they just think he should be king because he has a "great story"

Sean Carroll

lord of the 6 kingdoms literally makes him a lord, and aaccording to bran stark himself, he can never be lord of anything. Come on Drucker, at this point youre just being disingenuous

Sean Carroll

Congratulations on finishing GoT. You guys had such a unique perspective on it, coming from HOTD. I think not being immersed in all of the online theories,unlike us show watchers turned book readers, really helped you guys love the show for the journey that it was a lot sooner than most of us. The show meant so much to me, glad you had a same experience.

Kevin Warner

drucker, you are literally the definition of talking to a wall

Sean Carroll

Find the video of the cast doing a final read through of the series - there are some very interesting reactions to their character's fates/actions

Lolo

jfc are you married to Benioff and/or Weiss? it was bad writing period. you can say that and still be a fan of that which came before

Lolo

he's still a Stark

Lolo

I agree, and I'm pretty sure that's the direction the books will take as well. Her turning into the mad queen is both poetic and sad, hate to see it for her but it also kind of makes sense taken to consideration she lost all her closest people and dragon children (well except Drogon). She's used to being praised and loved, then comes North and besides losing all her loved ones for the first time in a long time also feels alone. The throne was kind of all she had left (in her point of view). This plot could totally work but not in a matter of a few episodes. This part of her story arc was so rushed that it makes no sense to anyone. Definitely bad writing -.-

AzukaLockheart

As they've said all this time, dragons are very intelligent creatures. Drogon knew what was the cause of his moms death. Breaks me to see how Danny and her little family on wings fell ;__;

AzukaLockheart

Bran: I could never be lord of Winterfell. I could never be lord of anything.. Also Bran: WhY dO yOu ThInK i CaMe AlL tHiS wAy!? Sure I'll be king of the seven kingdoms! Curse you D&D!! Side note to this broken season tho (it do have it good things too.. but I think most of us agrees that GoT really fell apart in S8 if it hadnt already done that), it's been such a joy to follow the journey of GoT with the two of you! Loved hearing your views and theories! I'm gonna miss waiting for a new GoT episode from you! ^^

AzukaLockheart

Dany Was developed for 70 episodes, thats enough.

DrückebergerTV

Sam is an actual character, Golden Company were props. Here is what the actors really felt: https://www.insider.com/game-of-thrones-cast-talking-about-the-series-finale-2019-5

DrückebergerTV

Haters want them to feel as miserable as they are and they failed.

DrückebergerTV

He was choosen to be King. Being Lord means you follow your ancestors footsteps to be in Power. Bran didnt to become King of the 6 Kingdoms. He becomes King, wich makes him Lord of the 6 Kingdoms, not Lord of Winterfell, because he isnt Bran anymore. Only a Stark can become Lord of Winterfell by following his ancestors foothsteps.

DrückebergerTV

So we agree at least on the stance that you wouldnt be a Genius if you said that. Haters needed to do gymnestatics to trashtalk this masterpiece. They bring up all the flaws over and over again to convince themselves they are right, you need to convince everyone how the actors hated it as well to feel confirmed by them. You cant have your own opinion and be good with it.

DrückebergerTV

It won most emmys and had highest HBO Viewership and Salesnumbers of entire series. People talk more about GoT than HotD even after its first season. You make it sound like as if hate watching is a reasonable and healthy thing. Its sad and pathetic. You even pay money and didnt get what you wanted: they enjoyed the Finale.

DrückebergerTV

Dude, I'm starting to think D&D have nudes of you or something. It's crazy the mental gymnastics you're going through to justify this garbage of a season. Daenerys incinerated thousands of innocents, what the hell was the point of Arya's line? That's like me saying "I know a killer when I see one" regarding Hitler, after he just annihilated an entire race.

Alex I.

Bran in season 7: I can never be Lord of Winterfell, I can never be Lord of anything. Bran in season 8: of course I'm gonna be king, why do you think i came all the way here? This guy: OMG, 10/10 writing, best season evaaa. Dude, listen to yourself...

Alex I.

bros talking nonsense

Ammaar Ahmed

bro forgetting about the Riverland aka the war ground of westeros and is constantly being burnt to the ground

Ammaar Ahmed

Yes the dragon understood symbolism and burned the iron Throne rather than the man that killed his mum - makes complete sense - drogon in his symbolism era

Ammaar Ahmed

I like many people thought these last episodes were blunt and clumsy to say the least, however I thought that the scene where Brienne writes Jaime's deeds in the White book was one of the most moving and beautiful of the series (aside from closing the book with the ink still wet).

David Richardson

I have to sincerely disagree with yall that they 'broke the wheel" I'm the biggest hater of that phrase bcs it means nothing. If it means to have a good ruler, not all Kings in westeros had been bad uptil that point. An just because they're elected, doesn't mean they'll be good. Plus Bran wasn't the first King elected in Westeros, Viserys was as shown in the more realistic take in HoT. All this change does it give more power to the Lords and makes it fair game for anyone outside the royal house. Thus the lords now have much more power (which suits them alot) who all will end up voting on a purely selfish reason on who is the most powerful or will push my agenda. I think the only two wheels that were broken were the North being independent (given the fact that there had been 3 gens of Stark that rode South and ended up dead 😕) and the wildlings who will have a different existence and whose relationship with their South will have changed.

Ammaar Ahmed

Yours is the first and only Patreon I’ve ever bought. You are a beautiful couple and I’ve enjoyed this so much even though I don’t comment often. Another reactor I watch called John the new King beyond the wall.. it made me feel so much better about this ending. The nights watch was just a way of satisfying the unsullied. I mean think about it, if you set John free where do you think he would go? He’s the new Mance Raider and he’s exactly where he wants to be! I also wonder if y’all see how much Sansa learned from Cersei? She took Dany out with one little secret, because that was the only way to ensure the North became an independent kingdom. That coupled with Tyrions kinder gentler tactics to try and coax out the good side of Cersei (when he knows damn well she doesn’t have a good side). He really didn’t want his siblings to die and his strategies showed that much. That left Dany dead in the water by the time she got started in Westeros. Just a couple more episodes and they really could have fleshed that out and gave more meaning to Danys descent into madness.

Levi East

The funniest shit about what tyrion says is that the Monarchy becoming elective rather than hereditary will "break the wheel" which means nothing in itself, but many early dark ages and medieval Kingdoms and empires had elective Monarchy. It does not stop the "game of thrones", the politicking, factionalism and fighting and the war lol. It just changes the nature of it lmao

Ammaar Ahmed

Dany's descent into madness could actually have worked really, really well if it was set up over 12-18 episodes, so you would have got to see her mindset through the increasingly dangerous conversations she's having with her advisors, but throughout The Last of the Starks and half of The Bells, she became a completely different person, and that just doesn't work. I get that the seeds for Dany's madness were planted all along, but we got to see that same amount of development take place over one and a half episodes. Most of the issues with season 7 and 8 can be boiled down to the fact that they were just made up of 13 episodes combined. There should have been full-length 10 episode seasons 7, 8, and 9, and maybe even 10. And the Night King needed to be the LAST threat to be dealt with because everything else seems so minor afterwards.

Daria

I know you're GoT last seasons biggest white Knight, and you spend your ev3nings passionately defending the dung heap of the end of the season, but it did fall off and was pretty much badly recieved with online chatter ending pretty instantaneously. Thank god for HoTD that pretty much revived interest in it. also like, most of GOT was solidly good so a dungheap ending won't stop people's enjoyment of earlier scenes and great character moments. Plus S&P are so entertaining, they do wonders for this. Final plus, never heard of hate watch??

Ammaar Ahmed

the second Pudgey predicted King Bran last episode - I knew they'd actually have a good time with the ending like most people were fuming at the idea of King Bran (who overall is only useful in the show to tell Jon he's a targeryan which means nothing in the context of the show and its stakes, beyond being a cause to drive Dany mad).

Ammaar Ahmed

Cool bro

Frankie Leyva

written by D&D innit

Ammaar Ahmed

Its a fact.

DrückebergerTV

I don't think they will - they enjoyed the show way more than alot of people, alot of decisions and writing made sense (and were well done to them) so why even go down an avenue they don't fully agree with. Plus no point of ending a 10/10 show in their opinion with negativity.

Ammaar Ahmed

Who is "they"?

DrückebergerTV

People hating the latter half of season 8 is my ultimate pet peeve. It's still 10 times better than first half of season 6, or most of season 5.

Tzeiggi

that aint snow chief thats ash

a k mot

A couple of things worth noting. The ending feels like Catelyn Stark wrote it. Bran is king, Sansa is queen, Arya is off doing her own thing, and Jon is Exiled. :) Samwell Tarly killed more people in the show than the Golden Company. I would ask for a refund, Tyrion arranged a rowboat for his brother who is missing a hand. Who was gonna row?? Cersei? :D Shoutout to Lena Headey who made over a million standing in a window sipping wine. Drogon understanding symbolism and melting the throne because of what it represents is just hilarious. Congrats to Davos, Sam, Ghost, and Tormund who all made it to the finale without having their years-long character arcs completely nullified. Its a really bad ending to an amazing show and I really hope HBO learned the lesson. House of the Dragon S1 was great, lets hope they continue that quality. There were a lot of really nice moments in this season and I really wish it was the other way around and we would be sitting here talking about the bad moments of an epic season. The fans hated it, ( except about maybe 25 ) some 1.8 million people signed a petition demanding a remake lol. The actors hated it, especially Kit and Emilia. The showrunners didn't turn up on their own panel at Comic con. Arya, Varys, Grey Worm, Sam, Jamie, Davos, Bran was there but neither of the showrunners. That alone speaks for itself. To Spartan and Pudgey, you guys are awesome. The banter is top tier and the best thing about watching this show was clearly you guys. Thank you, it was a lot of fun. :)

neutchain

Thanks for the hot take

Frankie Leyva

Please react to season 8 being devoid of logic on youtube please Also watch back S1-S4 and how much better this show was

Peter Fowler

It was not a great season, even they would agree on that

Peter Fowler

You're talking about all these "innocent" people for some reason. They're not innocent in Dany's eyes. They're not slaves, so she can't liberate them, the way she could in Essos. She said she doesn't have love here, all she has is fear. She has burned innocent people before... Crucified innocent noblemen... Threatened to burn cities to the ground, if she didn't get her way... I could go on and on, but for some reason people forget about all of this, because "oh that was ok, because this or that..." No... She has been Mad since the start of the show. You just accepted it because you liked her cause. Also, you keep saying "She's lost her mind." Well duh... She lost everybody she cared about. She lost 2 of her 3 dragons. She lost ALL the love she ever felt in Essos. She has nothing here in Westeros, and you're surprised that she's lost it? I don't understand why people get surprised by this... Ashes... Not snow... And lastly. What's the only place Jon has ever felt free? North of the Wall. Bran didn't punish him. There is no Nights Watch. He sent Jon there to live with the Wildlings north of the wall, where he would feel at home!

Morten Larsen

Like?

DrückebergerTV

So emotional that it's over. Watching this with you guys over a few months has been my FAVOURITE thing in the world. Also strange timing but today is my last day of being 21 and the finale reaction released today, full circle. I'm definitely gonna rewatch this series reaction, love it.

Ebony

He was trained to be a killing machine and stayed true to his Code.

DrückebergerTV

Prove how it is bad. You only say stuff without backing anything up.

DrückebergerTV

Wow guys thanks for such a great reaction to the entire series. It's sad that I'll never see a GoT episode notification from you guys anymore but all good things come to an end. I cried when you guys signed off for the last time, I could see how much this show meant to you both. Thank you again 😊

Lisa

Greyworm was a total one note character who was ruined despite already not being much in the first place

Sean Carroll

Prove to us how it was a good season. You can’t just say something without backing it up

Sean Carroll

It looks to me like they were grasping at straws a lot.

Sean Carroll

‘Jon returning to Castle Black’ "Aw shit, here we go again...."

YounesCuppino

You are right, this isnt the ending people deserved or wanted, its what they needed. This is how the actors really felt: https://www.insider.com/game-of-thrones-cast-talking-about-the-series-finale-2019-5. "Beside reactions and HotD press", you are paying to watch them react to season you dont like and HotD was HBOs biggest Premiere of all time. Everyone still Talks about it.

DrückebergerTV

There wasnt a bottle. They did because they are fine with being part of 6 Kingdoms, cause it worked out for them in the past. The North suffered more than any other Kingdom and is better suited to fare on its own.

DrückebergerTV

Different Storys require different Endings. Both were perfect.

DrückebergerTV

Its not about what the viewer thinks the best Story is. Its about the best Story that the realm needs to be reunited. A Story that is not about bloodright or conquest or war heroism.

DrückebergerTV

Its not what happened... but really it is.

DrückebergerTV

He becomes King, wich makes him Lord of the 6 Kingdoms, not Lord of Winterfell, because he isnt Bran anymore. Only a Stark can become Lord of Winterfell by following his ancestors foothsteps.

DrückebergerTV

He was choosen to be King. Being Lord means you follow your ancestors footsteps to be in Power. Bran didnt to become King of the 6 Kingdoms.

DrückebergerTV

They watched the same Story. It proves people Set themselves up to be hugely dissapointed by believing in and expacting every Fan theory to be met or confirmed in 6 episodes. It wasnt the shows fault, but the people.

DrückebergerTV

Thats book canon, It was never confirmed to be the same in the show

DrückebergerTV

The butterflies were never stated to be poisinous in the show and greyworm is just perfectly capable to return to westeros if he hears jon isnt north of the wall.

DrückebergerTV

At the beginning Ash and then it starts snowing.

DrückebergerTV

I don't understand all the love for Grey Worm they guy is a straight up war criminal.

Daniel Kitts

The story was supposed to make you think jon or dany would rule at the end. Jon should rule, but didnt want to. Dany shouldnt rule, but wanted to. Bran is the perfect compromise. It fits. It was supposed to be unpredictable, but still make sense.

DrückebergerTV

You should react to the Last Reunion where they have the full cast together to talk about the series. It is on your 4K Blueray set. And there is a beautiful tribute out to there to the cast. Involves bloopers and other funny and emotional clips. It is named Thank You by Ovik6280. https://youtu.be/qAEKnb05LxI

Jasmin

Sean, you never annihalate anything, you just Post 1 bad take, you never take time to explain anything or argue even if it would be to prove your own point. You are a lazy hater.

DrückebergerTV

It was never dead and you paying others to react to seasons you hate is telling that.

DrückebergerTV

There is no source material ever since season 6 and people still pay others to watch and react to it... 4 years later.

DrückebergerTV

Its clear that arya wants to tell jon that dany wont stop when it comes to people who are closer to her than people of kingslanding. They were strangers. Tyrion wasnt. And he is about to be executed. Neither is jon a stranger.

DrückebergerTV

Great season! Don’t listen to all the bandwagon haters

EMG

At the beginning it is clearly ashes and then it starts snowing as well.

DrückebergerTV

Its not about what the viewer thinks the best Story is. Its about the best Story that the realm needs to be reunited. A Story that is not about bloodright or conquest or war heroism.

DrückebergerTV

And yet people are still willing to pay other people to react on it... 4 years later. It never dissapeared from conversations and culture. HotD Was biggest Premiere in hbo history "despite" bad last season.

DrückebergerTV

They enjoyed it pretty much.

DrückebergerTV

I don't want to add anything about the the show or the season. I just want to shout out you guys, Spartan and Pudgey. I have watched a lot of reaction channels over the years, and never felt the need to support a patreon until you guys. The two of you brought something so unique to your reactions, from the pre-episode discussion to the post-episode discussion. It's been genuinely fun watching you two explore Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. So credit to you, and your editors, and of course your mod team who kept you from getting spoiled. Everyone should be very proud of this one, a series well done.

Barrie

I recommend "The Last Watch": the behind the scenes documentary (which should be included in your box set) to ease the GoT withdrawal. It's so fascinating to see how they filmed it and all the incredible hard work that went into the production, sets, props, fight choreography, etc. Plus, it really cheered me up to see all my favourite actors laughing, joking and having fun together. A nice way to decompress from the emotional rollercoaster that is Game of Thrones (and the final episodes).

DominaZeta

@Sean Hahahahahhaha Iaughed for 5 minutes at your comment

Jack S

No, that is clearly snow that Drogon is covered with. Ash is grey.

Jack S

I think you did these last few episodes justice, weighing the good with the bad, acknowledging the disappointments but still retaining a deep appreciation for GOT overall. Your personalities, your banter, your insights all made these the GOT reactions I most looked forward to. I’ve already started rewatching some of your videos, and I know in the future I’ll come back to them again and again. Like GOT itself, your reactions have that rewatchabillity factor

Daniel Siegel

It'd be awesome to see you react to Ryan George's GoT Season 8 Pitch Meeting. Sums up all my feelings hilariously.

Shannon Bey

Thank you to Spartan and Pudgy for sharing their experience with us! The closest we'll get to ever watching it for the first time again.

Demo

All the great theories that people came up with, the conversations about who would end up on the Iron Throne, the waiting between seasons and all of the anticipation. The culture shift that this show started. I have watched so many other shows before and after GOT and even with the horrible ending, I still can't move it out of my top spot. This isn't the ending that the fans of the show deserved. Even the actors were bothered by how it ended. This show is all anyone talked about for like a decade and besides reactions, and HOD press, GOT faded out of relevancy all because the writers got lazy and decided to end it prematurely. Still love it but GOT deserved so much more :(

Demo

Those are my top 2 for sure.

Demo

Breaking bad let's go. xD

URxBREATHTAKING

Why did all the other lords just accept that the north would become its own independent kingdom. Why didn’t they all argue for the same privilege, they just let it go without a second thought. Why was there a water bottle next to Sam’s foot

Sean Carroll

Or Arya killing the night king

Sean Carroll

Well regardless of that he still says he can’t be lord of anything and yet he becomes lord of westerod

Sean Carroll

Loved rewatching this show with you guys! You brought back all the happy times when I watched it while it was on. Will definitely be here for breaking bad and HoTD S2!!!

Frankie Leyva

It was great to see House Stark win the Game of Thrones! But Sansa undermining Bran’s authority immediately by removing the North from the country was a choice.

Matthew s

Roll on Breaking Bad. Let’s go. Forget this trash ending.

SAM04019491

Tyrion: “Who has a better story than Bran?” Entire audience screaming: “Literally everyone else! How about Jon?”

SAM04019491

Bran becoming King might be the worst decision of the entire show. This last episode felt like a fever dream. The first time I am watching it since it ended.

Demo

Duty isn't desire. Facepalm

J_Fley .

I don’t really want anymore. Why do you think I came all this way. Facepalmed my head clean off

Sean Carroll

It’s absolutely pointless though since the Dothraki and unsullied will be leaving Westeros forever and the unsullied in particular will die in naath to the poisonous butterflies. Oh wait d&d kinda forgot about those

Sean Carroll

And be careful with your dives on YouTube you might find spoilers for house of the dragon. There’s some pretty major ones out there that would ruin that show for you guys.

Frankie Leyva

Bran: "I cant be a lord" But can be King lmao

Devon Nyers

I can see how the rest of season 8 didn't seem that bad to you guys since you're watching all the episodes with no significant break in between. But when we had to wait years between seasons, there was a ton of excitement, anticipation, and hope that D&D had a secret amazing ending planned. Everyone got super mad when the ending crashed and burned.

Jack S

Almost, but that would be a Targareyan(sp?) in the far North.

TwistedMagoo

I have a lot of issues with this analysis, but all I will say is that the reason Bran being king isn't at all predictable is because it is awful and nonsensical.

TwistedMagoo

That's because in the end I think people are able to appreciate the greatness of the cast and source material despite the showrunners attempt to run the thing into the ground at the end.

TwistedMagoo

And now Greyworm will go to Naath to die a horrible death of butterfly fever. Only the inhabitants of that island are immune. Anyone who goes there from the outside gets infected and bleeds out a horrible agonizing death. Just to rub salt in the wound 😂

Frankie Leyva

Sending Jon to the "Night's Watch" was kinda a smart move by Bran, though. There's a bit of a wink and a nod at that decision that "There's not reason for the night's watch to exist." So it satisfies Dany side in terms of seeking justice, when what he's actually doing is sending Jon to live with the free folk, which he seemed to prefer. And as a result, the Starks ended up with a clean sweep of the entire continent. Bran in the South, Sansa in the North, and Jon in the Real North.

Jonathanese

It's been an amazing ride watching your reactions to Game of thrones and House of the Dragons looking forward to your future reactions. Glad to see you guys have started the Lord of the Rings journey also another favorite of mines.

Georgina Mcmanaway

Is that snow or is that ash

Lou Dryka

I don’t have time to annihilate your claim but once I’m on my lunch break I will

Sean Carroll

Genius writing from d and d once again

Sean Carroll

YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK (let’s him speak)

Sean Carroll

I will now defend this finale and probably being called having toxic positivity but i really didnt mind the finale at all. Bran being king isnt at all predictable and its a very fitting end to all the westeros kings and its history. Its the end of *the game of thrones*, literally. Its the wheel Dany wanted to break, and its the end of an era that was decided through blood and tradition, which Tyrion explained. The starks end up winning!! Jon gets the freedom he wants, Arya gets the freedom she wants. Sansa gets to be the queen she always wanted. Bran is KING. A lot of epic symbolism this episode, and i love how they made brienne finish writing Jamies deeds and history. I love the talk with Jon and Tyrion in the beginning of the episode, "Love is the death of Duty", epic call back to maester Aemon and good symbolism regarding all the people who loved and followed Dany, and other relationships in the show like Jamie's love towards cercei. Theres no doubt that this season is weaker than the others and that its completely rushed. But this ending isnt as bad as people say it is. This all being said I cant speak for episode 4 and 5 of this season and i do hate how they rushed and completely ruined Dany's character.

Iska

and yet here everyone is talking about it and wanting to see people's reactions over it. More than any other show. Will always be the biggest thing.

Mark Laniel

I kinda chuckled when Spartan said he wanted more talk between dany and jon after she got stabbed. It's hard to talk when you are bleeding out and cannot breathe properly.

Mark Laniel

and yet to this day it still gets the most reaction views and commentary in any reaction channels. It's bigger than everything.

Mark Laniel

so we know that Jon Snow is probably getting a sequel series....this is just a thoiught but maybe Bran is in fact the Night King, and has control of the seven kingdoms. Jon Snow as the prince that was promised has to come back to take him out of power. I dont know, simply because I am unsure how they can fill so much in his upcoming show that is in the plans.

Mark Laniel

The snow in kings landing was ash which is so sad. Also I think John ended up where he always wanted to be. He never wanted to be a king. He always felt free and accepted beyond the wall.

Julia G

Great fun watching your reactions ! You will definately pickup things you missed whenever you watch GoT again. A sigil here , a phrase there , etc. On to the next show.

K Smith

About 2-3 weeks after the finale aired the show was DEAD. It went from the being the most popular show in the world to complete silence. A real shame

Adrian Neagoe

Loved the whole journey with you guys, and I completely understand the empty feeling you get whenever any great show ends and you have to say goodbye to the characters. Would love to see y’all watch “Haunting of Hill House” only 10 episodes but it’s top tier!! Great characters and storylines with some twists. Would be awesome to watch you two figuring out that story as it unfolds!

Cliff Nally

“I know a killer when I see one” after everyone watched Dany kill all of King’s Landing 🤦🏽‍♂️

MacJordanT

I think you guys don’t get that that wasn’t snow falling at King’s Landing. In Dany’s vision in season two AND this episode, that was ASH…

Lynda Olson

Jorah kept Dany in check and when Jorah died, she really never listens to anyone else. Jorah was the only one who really loved her so when he died i think she died with him the good side of Dany was gone. I hate what they did to Dany character i thought they could have done her better. Emilia Clarke is a amazing actress love her so much.

Georgina Mcmanaway

Been a great journey! You should do a tier list for all the characters, I think it would be great

Jay

I can kind of watch the early parts of the episode, but when Tyrion started talking about the 'best story' I had to turn it off.

TwistedMagoo

crazy to think this show was on top of the world, and completely disappeared from conversations and culture off 1 season. truly wild shit

Angelo

I’ve never been more disgusted for a tv show finale then this. The writers truly took a shit on all of us. Thank god we have breaking bad and lord of the rings to restore our sanity after this garbage heap of a shows falloff

Sean Carroll

I have to watch this but with great repulsion. It is what it is

Yassine El Allati

Ahh been waiting for this.. cant wait to see your reaction 😭 and looking forward to rewatching breaking bad with you guys. I saw it around 6/7 years ago so will be nice :)

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