Game of Thrones 5x10 Reaction & Review

Spartan has been calling for Cersei to get destroyed for a long time and I respect that he stuck to his guns all the way through to this point. I a little bit expected him to change his stance once he seen her walk of atonement but he didn’t budge at all. I respect it

Chaz D

Didn’t Stannis told Jon that he should’ve sent him to the Eastwatch or something? And then later Jon replying like “I’ve heard we should keep our enemies close” or something like that. If so, then Stannis was right all along.

Jose

Also, imagine how all of us felt watching this the first time, and then we had to wait like a year to find out what happened next 😂😂

Brittany Proffitt

“What’re they doing, cutting her hair? Doesn’t seem like a harsh punishment.” Me: begins laughing uncomfortably

Brittany Proffitt

Just imagine how utterly terrible it was to watch this when it came out, and having to wait months and months for the next season

Amanda Theriault

Don't worry about your pronunciation of Daenerys. Technically, people who don't pronounce it the Valyrian way have no right to complain about it

Daria

We don't really know what reactors would shout at Tywin being humiliated naked through the streets, so we can't really say either way if that is true. As a woman, however, I can say Tywin was a far more likeable character, and it had nothing to do with his gender. Don't make something out of nothing. Cersei doesn't have a single redeeming quality. I'm not sure who to say is more "evil".. did reactors not shout and scream enough when Tywin died humiliatingly on his chamber pot while he was taking a dump? Not everything is misogynistic.

Maggie Jordan

Jon was stupid to keep Alliser close to him. He should have sent him away to a far away castle on the wall.

Meraxes

The torture in custody bothered me more, particularly since while we as the audience know she's guilty, torturing a confession leads to anyone to confess to anything. The atonement doesn't bother me as much. It lowers her to the level of the people she's been abusing and strips her dignity. This was a far more common form of punishment in the era in which GoT is based on (war of the roses), since prisons are a newer concept.

Shannon Bey

My man and I were soooo upset and angry after Jon was murdered we swore off watching any more game of thrones! I remember crying and yelling, "I'm never watching this damn show ever again! They've gone too far this time!!". Then two years pass and the next season finally begins and OF COURSE WE WATCHED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT! And thank God we never did stop because season six is so very rewarding. As always there are triumphs and tragedies but this show is simply too good to miss. Love watching your reactions... except the weird Stanis adoration... 😂...but apart from that, love your thoughts and theories! Can't wait for the next episodes! Thank you guys for sharing your GoT experience!

ArcAngel

Can u imagine having to wait almost 2 years after Jon was stabbed? The despondency on Spartan's face is a classic reaction. So is the anger. I remember crying and being pissed!

Amy Moquin

The offensive thing about Cersei's punishment is that it's was done by religious zealots. People who claim to be"faithful" are often the more wretched than those they try to condemn. They are the world's worst hypocrites and because they believe they are serving God's will, they are capable of the worst kind of brutality and treachery. Cersei deserves her revenge.

Nova Lena

Tywin was much more evil than Cersei. Yet I don't think any reactor would be cheering the brutality of parading and humiliating a naked Tywin through the streets. Cersei is evil to be sure. But she's not responsible for a laundry lists of deaths the way her father was, or father and son Bolton, or even Stannis But she gets more hatred thrown at her than any of them. Gee...I wonder why??

Nova Lena

Tywin was much more evil than Cersei. Yet I don't think any reactor would be cheering the brutality of parading and humiliating a naked Tywin through the streets. Cersei is evil to be sure. But she's not responsible for a laundry lists of deaths the way her father was, or father and son Bolton, or even Stannis But she gets more hatred thrown at her than any of them. Gee...I wonder why??

Nova Lena

I'm sorry but I never feel sorry for Cersei. She is the embodiment of evil, except when it comes to her children, she was sincere. Other than that, I really hope that she dies a gruesome death.

Rojulan

I think the books make the Walk of Atonement to be much more gruesome from Cersei's POV. Cersei is often referred to as the most beautiful (living) woman in Westeros. She wants to project an image of perfection and she has deep insecurities about aging. Her golden "lion" hair is a piece of her identity - with her hair she feels a superior sense of emotional toughness. She is fighting for her life internally not to let anyone see her feel any embarassment, or any sadness.

Simone Cherie

I read A Dance of Dragons the summer after the first season of GoT. I thought the answers were just around the corner. I really was a sweet summer child.

cstarklady

I’m pretty sure this isn’t a spoiler but that is where the last book to be written ends…. Been waiting 12 years for the resolution to that and we’ll probably never see it in book form. You’re in uncharted territory now!

Toby

I maybe heartless but i never liked Cersie, and I relished in her (suffering) atonement, god that was beautiful to watch! Jon on the other hand, broke me, he truly is one of my favorite characters of all time, and just so you guys know, his death, broke the internet back in 2015 !

Joana

for those who don't know. a whole subreddit was created and became a sensation. To this day, it's still around. It trended for six months, It's called FUCK OLLY! People go to the reddit and creatively find ways to hate Olly.

Stannis loves grammar.

I tossed the book across the room for the red wedding. Ironically, I did not have a big reaction to Jon. i guessed i was stunned.

Stannis loves grammar.

I think I am here for Pudgeys laugh reaction to moments of great pain. I wish i had had that when I first watched the show. What is the saying? you have to laugh as not to cry!

Stannis loves grammar.

Spartan & Pudgey obviously did not mind the line at all. Only show haters and book purists hate this line.

DrückebergerTV

the back and forth between Varys, Baelish and Tyrion. Never to be seen again.

neutchain

It’s nauuurrrr

Cam

Fair

E10

Imagine waiting a year and change for the next season. Lol.

Abigail Buck

pudgey blankly says "no" 12 times in a row. lol

Augustine Lee

That, or they followed the GIANT FUCKING DRAGON IN THE SKY WITH THE SUPER PALE LADY ON IT and found only her, not Drogon, since she wandered off.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

You have to remember the people who read the books were left with Jons death as a cliffhanger...in 2011...

Dan Fennell

Well the ironic thing is most of the people who assassinated Jon were highborn and/or those who consented to join the watch (Alliser Thorne, Bowen Marsh, Ollie)

Snair

The Dothraki are nomadic and always on the move, going from settlement to settlement, fighting, killing, raping, looting, pillaging, enslaving and trading. They didn't go out to find her, they just came across her while they was on their way to the next village they plan on sacking.

Hayden King

I understand Olly's emotions and reasons and why he acted that way - but of course betraying and killing your commander is something wrong! Very wrong!

CherryPi

I laughed so much as he said this 😂

CherryPi

I don't believe anymore we'll see these last books.

CherryPi

Revenge is not justice.

CherryPi

Pudgey is too kind hearted, I loved the walk of shame

Will

I do understand though, they were conditionned to think that the wildings are barbaric people who cannot be trusted. The wildlings could easily overtake Castle black after being let through the gates from a numbers perspective. Allister even said they several times that they would kill them in their sleep. If you believe that in the core of your being, it’s easy to feel threatened enough to make a decision like having to kill Jon for your own survival. They don’t understand the relationship and trust Jon has built with the wildlings because they simply have not experienced it and they’ve only known them to be killers and rapists.

Cam

Oh yay! been looking forward to this episode!!!

Hugh S

Mfers out here doing too much

Julien

I’m really enjoying the show. It’s different than the books in some plots, but I’m ENJOYING those adaptations because for the first time in many years I can have fan theories again about what might happen next. All the non-book readers I know are enjoying it, too. Season 2 should be out this year, and it’s been renewed for Season 3 already.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Yes!!!

Ailene Evangelista

I don’t even remember my original reaction when Jon died. I think I blocked it out or blacked out possibly 😂

Ailene Evangelista

doesn't suprise me you can understand Stannis character with an epic name like that

CpaSpartan Pudgey

That's horrible!!!! We literally have 6 people working their butts off to make sure we don't get spoiled like this!!!

CpaSpartan Pudgey

Please delete this comment it isn't spoiler but it does set expectations for both the book and show. Thanks! Mod team.

Shellbot

Even Jon Snow. 😢. When Ned died it was clear. Anyone can die.

Daryl

Poor Jon, i was devasted when he died. They locked up Ghost too, the dirty bastards

Ghostcat

imagine comparing myrcella to fucking joffrey

Locke

yeah usually i agree with most of spartan's opinions but his take on stannis just ain't it

Locke

RIP GOT dialogue

Locke

i want "far out dude" on a shirt

Locke

Gabi? I agree she was WAY overhated

Locke

its almost as if a group of rapists and murderers wouldn't be very loyal

Locke

I think it’s just for attention honestly. It makes them feel special or smart or something 🙄

Gummybear

It's getting so bad that I'm seeing people delete their comment chain because of spoilers or expectations only for the people that spoiled it to repost their comment. I just don't understand

Corey

One thing I’ve noticed about Spartan, he always maintains sympathy for the common people (seen very early on with the Butcher’s Boy).

Daniel Siegel

Your last comment got deleted for setting expectations so you repost it? Nice.

Corey

Never forget the butchers boy 😅

Gummybear

Spartan cracked me up in this episode. You guys are great, really entertaining to watch! :)

neutchain

to Jack Gleeson's credit, ( Joffrey Baratheon ) who let's be honest was still a kid when died, nobody felt the same way ( killing children is bad ). Millions of people around the world celebrated his death with a standing ovation. :) Great performance from that young and relatively inexperienced lad.

neutchain

I’ve always wondered about that series! Have you seen the show? Any good?

Gummybear

I am one of those with the opinion that after season 4 the decline began. I am not saying it went to shit straight away ( and the main plots are still okay-ish ) but the quality of the writing is nowhere near what it was before. The storylines are more predictable, the characters are nearly not as layered, the dialogues are really laughable at times ( "the bad pussy" ) and this will only become worse later when the teleportation begins, the characters start to behave nothing like themselves, etc... Really like this show and after all this time I made my peace with it but still wish to what it could've been if things went in a different way.

neutchain

Great casting again, that guy was killing it!

neutchain

Very well said! I couldn’t be bothered to explain this but I’m glad someone did lol. I don’t think cercie fans understand that we can be fans of her as a villain/character but not as a person. We can still empathize and understand her while still condemning her actions.

Gummybear

Sofia, no!!

Kale

Ugh how hard is it to follow the rules 🥹 I really hope they don’t ruin it for everyone because I really enjoy interacting on these posts. It sucks you guys don’t have the power to delete!

Gummybear

Spartan....thank you for never forgetting the butchers boy 🙏🏻 finally someone else on this soapbox with me 😆😆😆

Bonny Knoxville

I think it’s different if they were to kill each other in battle or after one had triumphed in the war for the throne. That would have been the honourable way to do it, whereas what stannis did was just straight up murder and in a cowardly way using dark magic.

Gummybear

Delete that second paragraph

Gummybear

Hahah

Gummybear

this show is full of morally grey characters. so once we have that context, the next thing I can look for is if a character has done some redeemable acts that has shown they are more than just a selfish abusive psycho. Stannis has a code of honour and duty and tries to do his best by it, sometimes it has been noble and just, other times it has been horrible, but both have occurred. The hound protected Arya and taught her a lot about survival. he did show care for her in the end so much so that he died protecting her. he was not good so per se, but he did show some good traits and didn't consider himself above others, he just did what was necessary to survive in this world. Theon has shown remource and regret, and ultimately was looking for love in the wrong places. Tywin has done horrible things, and yet primarily in the name of maintaining one of the strongest houses and political and military power. while he is not a moral person, he is a respectable commander and fought hard for his role. Cersie is one of few characters (Joffrey and Ramsey as well) that enjoy being cruel for the sake of it. yes they have poor origins which can be traced back and provide insight into how they became that way. but at present they continually hurt, kill, manipulate and humiliate almost everyone they come into contact to, and almost NEVER do anything respectable for something greater than themselves. they are the most self serving characters in the show, and completely abuse their power with little remorse more than any other character I have observed. Cersie has had many opportunities to attempt to do good, and she always choses the horrible vengeful and decietful option. any opportunity she's had to influence another character it has been a negative one. while almost all the other characters have at least a couple of instances where they've positively influenced charatcers, that often was not within their family or for a power grab, but merely to show they respect/cared for them. anyway hope that sheds a bit more insight into why I am harsh on Cersie.

CpaSpartan Pudgey

@ Indeed Cersei would destroy the entire world to protect her children. Her concerns are primarily regarding herself and her progeny, and she cares very little how that affects others the world over. Stannis and Cersei are opposite sides of the coin in this regard.

SuddenImpulse

"Whatever code Stannis had went as far as his own selfish ambitions in my opinion." He actually sidelines his own ambitions and wants to do what he feels is his duty. This is a major, major event in his character arc in both the show and the books. I definitely understand people that dislike Stannis, or Cersei, or any other character, but we can't just ignore major plot or character events, their context, and how they affected characters because they get in the way of certain beliefs we have about the character. Criticisms need to fit within the context and character the material has shown us.

SuddenImpulse

Absolutely no respect. I was surprised they had empathy for Stannis. Shireen was so sweet and innocent. How can one say at least he had a code? Fuck that code if it means burning your own daughter alive.

Saibal Sarkar

@Mzuka She has no redeeming qualities outside of fierce love for her children, which is why they usually aren't listed. She even treats her own brother/lover poorly. If the choice was between burning the world to the ground/having everyone suffer if it means she could have all her children safe and in her bubble she would do it. She has said so herself.

SuddenImpulse

@ken yeah it certainly doesn't help he has seen, in his mind, numerous instances proving not only how powerful this god is but that this god is real.

SuddenImpulse

You can both detest someone while understanding them or empathizing with aspects of their story.

SuddenImpulse

Yep and if it happens often enough, for long enough, the comments are going to start being handpicked or not read at all. Not fair to others and a real shame.

SuddenImpulse

Stannis became that way because the shadow baby spell sapped him of some of his... "life force" so to speak. Another would have killed him. There are specific scenes covering this in the show and book. George Martin has spoken about it in a TSM segment. The showrunners even discussed this in a post episode segment at one point. As far as the kinslaying, obviously that's just cultural stuff, it might be true, might not be, but the interesting situation there is either Renly was going to kill Stannis or Stannis was going to kill Renly, so we would've had a kinslayer out of that situation regardless.

SuddenImpulse

It's because outside of a handful no one has seen the White Walkers for 8,000 years whereas the animosity towards the Wildlings is built up both over that same period of time and in recent memory.

SuddenImpulse

and Ser Barriston is still alive in the books also Stannis never marched on Winterfell int the books

Alex

But we have all Been there!!!

Phillip

I triggered you with only one word,so yea you are a snowflake,and emotionally unstable.and sad

JonYellowSnow

Tbf that isn't strictly a D&D thing, if you remember who Jon picks as his steward in the novels @Julien. I much prefer it there anyway and I'm not a big fan of the Olly character either.

Mzuka

SPOILER!

Aditya

I think we all understand the reason Cersei is the way she is, it's what makes her a great character. That doesn't mean we have to like her. You keep mentioning redeeming qualities and I'm wondering what are they? She loves her children, which humanises her and garners sympathy when she loses them but I don't think it redeems her as even a monster can love their children. And her "love" turned Joff into a beast and has deprived Tommen of his wife. People like Stannis and Tywin because they are just and competent, respectively. Neither of them are needlessly cruel, even when they are facing their enemies. Even after perpetrating the brutal Red Wedding, Tywin asks why its worse for a handful to die at a wedding than thousands in a war. It's a rationalisation but the man is so effective. Cersei is an antagonist but she's not a particularly competent one; she self-sabotages compulsively as we see this season, and Tywin was on the oney when he said she thinks she's smarter than she is. She also relishes cruelty and is one of the main antagonists to a fan favourite (and much more competent snd likeable) character, Tyrion. I think it's much weirder when people are fans of her, and idk why they can't understand why the majority of us aren't fans of her as a person.

Mzuka

John death is when I stopped watching GOT. For me, this was even more traumatic than the red wedding or Ned's demise. Like Spartan said, why would the show-runners build him up at all. Insane but awesome writing. I did understand however how betrayed & unacceptable the situation was for the NW, for their sworn enemies to somehow win their conflict with the assistance of their lord commander.

Richard

I would disown her for that if I were you! LOL

Aditya

Great reactions! I had to stop before the last scene because I couldn’t bear it for now. I agree with you Spartan, that it’s hard to feel sympathy for Cersei after all the harm she’s caused. Still, the High Sparrow shot up to almost the top of my hate list because of this scene. The reason why is because the one thing she’s punished and humiliated for is probably the least terrible thing she’s done: sleeping with Lancel Lannister when she was still married.

cstarklady

Cersei is what happens when a Karen IS the manager.

Jonathanese

Thanks for the sanity check! (I’ve been dipping back into The Wheel of Time fandom, and EVERYTHING in that is about gender roles in different cultures).

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Yes. And that’s why Sam was able to persuasively nominate Jon to be Lord Commander—Sam knows how to give good speech, because he’s high born. It’s clear to me why those sorts would find each other at The Wall and gravitate to leadership together, boosting other high borns just because they’re collectively the ones who most know how to work the system. I think Maester Aemon saw both Jon and Sam as grandchildren. He wanted to make sure the ones he thought would be in charge eventually would get some of his wisdom while he could still offer it. Grand-daddy issues, now.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

completely agree, book stannis is amazing. show stannis, not so much

reegs21

Absolutely spoilers, please take this down.

reegs21

Mormont was a lord before he came to the wall. Of course he cares. He'd been there for many years but as soon Jon as showed up he choose him to potentially succeed him. That speaks volumes. The show hasn't done a great job of showing how much that stuff matters. Birth, class, etc matters *enormously* in this world, as depicted by the books. So much of your worth depends on this. In any event, even at the wall, even where you're supposed to leave titles etc behind, the fact is that people of noble birth arrive there with far more leadership skills than the smallfolks. Being able to read, having knowledge of history and politics and warfare, having trained with real "castle-forged" steel (like Jon!) - all that stuff matters from a purely raw skills perspective. That's why Mormont chose Jon and Master Aemon chose Sam, another nobleman from a significant house. They came with ready managerial skills.

Julien

Spartan my sincere condolence, RIP John Snow a legend, hero and a man of honor. The look on your face is priceless.

IBRAHIM ALJABOR

Religious zealots have absolutely burned people alive, in multiple religions and time periods.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

This is a spoiler

Erwin Smith

And “far out dude” and “aww yuck!” 🤣

Gummybear

Yes, but I don’t think Jon’s had enough therapy to be that self-aware about why he’s really doing this with Olly—he’s literally in survival mode right now, no time for emotions. And #fuckolly :) Edited to add: I think Commander Mormont saw Jon as a surrogate son—a worthier son. That’s why he gave him the sword he’d previously given to Jorah, after Jon saved Commander Mormont’s life. And in his big rally speech later, Jon says if they’re all brothers than Mormont was their father. Plus last time he saw Ned, Ned said next time they saw each other he’d tell him all about his mother. So. Many. Daddy issues.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Religious zealots historically haven’t created smoke demon assassins so I feel like it’s a bit different

ken

… I literally cannot think of a single response I could possibly post that might not imply something about a character’s future. Ummmm… TTYL?

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Doesn't seem to apply to Tyrion.

Munir

Isn't the whole point of the Night's Watch to leave behind their past lives? Jon being a bastard may negate all that and I don't know if Commander Mormont was the type to care much about lineage. That being said, fuck Olly.

Munir

Jon has daddy issues. He wanted to give a kid (one of the only people at the Wall who wasn’t there for a crime, or a punishment, or a choice) who didn’t belong anywhere else a chance to be the best where he was stuck (IMHO). I think since he can father no children (per vows), he took on a surrogate he hoped he could shape to follow in his footsteps and continue his legacy. Oops?

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Cersei is a Super Karen! she's the worst...she's a Karen with power over the store manager. Doesn't anyone notice the look she gives everyone? she looks down on everybody. that smirk that is half smug and half disgusted is infuriating! any L's she gets is welcomed.

Nate Terry

So important of a character they left him out of this season entirely...

Munir

You guys have to remember as you are watching this happen that people who watched this live waited months/years between seasons.... So we were left with this and then almost a year until the next season. Wild!

RP10

Watching people suffer through this series is sadistic, yes.

Ricky

This always has me pissed. Like do you think the LITERAL 12 OF Y’ALL can take on 1 million thousand ice zombies??? Their illogic just gets me👺no matter how many times I’ve watched this show😂

girl gal

Saying specific characters personalities changed is deifnntley spoilery

Gummybear

Delete this shit

Julien

Exactly! You can still feel saddened by his downfall at the very least. I don’t understand how people can’t have sympathy for Stannis. Yes he committed the ultimate evil act but imagine sacrificing that much only to lose EVERYTHING, including himself.It’s a tragic story

Gummybear

All that aside, I've always had an issue with Jon grooming Olly for command, the same way Mormont did him. This is classic D&D crap. Mormont groomed Jon because Jon wasn't just a nobleman but a nobleman of a great house. This means he was educated, smart in the right ways, etc. People like Jon are raised to lead, purely because of their birth. And of course, Jon was a Stark in all but name, which matters culturally at the wall. For all these reasons, if Benjen hadn't vanished, he probably would have been the next Lord Commander. Olly is none of those things. He is a lowborn, illiterate child from bumfuk. So odd that Jon would decide he would be groomed to succeed him.

Julien

This should be taken down

girl gal

I never had any sympathy for olly until this comment lol. Still hate him but marginally less

Gummybear

I don’t think it has to do with gender. I think killing children is universally bad lol but sadly in this world it happens often in pursuit of goals.

Gummybear

I'm totally with Spartan on Cersei's walk of atonement though. It's horrible, hard to watch, and I really did feel for her despite her being solidly on my hate list. But she made her bed. And she made very sure that it was made of stones and knives. And now she has nothing to do but lie in the mess she made. Though I must say it would have been more cathartic with Joffrey. But I suppose Joffrey should have gotten the Reek treatment instead. Plus it would have made us cheer for the Sparrows.

Jonathanese

And please also, “Noooo waaaaaaay, man.”

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Pudgy: "Hahaha I'm crying so much I'm so upset haha" Spartan: "...........I gotta go punch some shit." The fastest way to summarize their personalities. Pudgy's laugh reaction to crying is adorable, but holy hell that has GOT to be frustrating if you're legit upset and you reflexively laugh. But no, it isn't "boring watching you sit there dumbfounded". That exactly what reactions are all about! The classic reaction video is "X reacts to S03E09" and watching people crumble into a pile of emotions. Sadistic perhaps, but it's fun watching the journey.

Jonathanese

Most of this is not a spoiler. BUT, I think it's better if you don't tell them that the next seasons were critiziced for changing characters, because then they would watch with certain expectations they wouldn't have if they were watching it blind. I think the rest of your comment is fine. Just wanted to point that out.

Ricky

:) Your original point reminds me of that old saying, “If you won’t hear someone’s pain, they will make you feel it.” Jon didn’t fully appreciate how traumatizing it was for a child to see people that helped murder his whole village be let in close to his new family (“brothers”) he has now, after they’d already attacked his new brothers once and killed half of them, and sent on their merry way to live in his old village. Jon’s a busy man, but that kid was bound to lash out. But. Fictional, so fuck Olly. :)

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

As a book reader this is this beginning of the first moment of where I had nothing but speculation and guesses on where the show and characters would go. Which was a completely world changing experience that I enjoyed. I got to change perspectives of being critical of accuracy and where the development of the story into film was going to just being able to enjoy the ride for what it was.

Scuba Steve

“He thought he was doing the will of the one true God.” Religious zealots have used that line throughout history to justify killing. History shakes its head sadly.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Yup. Multiple characters also warned him he was good, possibly too good, possibly too much like his father or too honorable, and that that wasn’t necessarily a good thing. They should have just taken him by the shoulders and said, “It is DANGEROUS to be so openly honorable in this world unless you have cunning plans up your sleeve.”

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

I think it’s largely that she makes a villainess impression very, very early on in the show when she pressures Jaime to do something about Bran when he saw them bangin’, then had Sansa’s direwolf killed when Arya’s can’t be found, and has the butcher’s boy killed for “fighting” Joffrey. She was the slap in the face for most of us who started off cold with the show—she was the red alert wake-up call that this is a dangerous world. It’s a lot harder to recover from starting off on the wrong foot with a character and learn to see them differently, than it is to mostly see good in a character and then they make human mistakes after you’ve found likable things about them.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Sofia

THANK YOU for tying her screams to something Ramsey would cause! That’s a good, sensory example that really drives the point hard. *applause*

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

- Stannis: Give Ser Alliser command of EastWatch (Send him away). - Jon: I heard it was best to keep your enemies close. - Stannis: Whoever said that didn’t have many enemies. RIP legends.

HDN

I love your user name. So much.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Trollers gonna troll, dude. It’s nothing personal.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Pudgey also predicted last episode that Arya would be a stand-in for a slave girl and kill that man to get him off her list, and that Sansa should try to escape during the battle.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Some believe that no one deserves torture. Other punishments, but not that. Would you say she deserves, right now with her current situation and sins, to be handed over to Ramsey? (And I get the love-to-hate favorite character feels. :)

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

That’s fascinating. I wonder if he’d have been “strong enough” to make another demon baby with the Red Woman if the first hadn’t been used to kin-slay his brother. I mean, if they’d sent it after Joffrey instead, would Stannis have been able to sire another and send it after another of the five kings?

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Jon’s death really rubbed me the wrong way. I simply can’t believe the Night’s Watch were that narrow minded, stupid or discriminatory that they killed Jon just because of the wildlings. Did they not hear about the white walkers? 😵‍💫 Like Jon’s literally been an asset and saving people left and right and they kill him coz oh no we hate wildlings 🙄 I know its more justified in the books though

Franky E

No I'm with Spartan here, I get it... Jon wasn't just betrayed he suffered such a slow, horrible death

Simone Cherie

Lol fair enough

Julien

And he was able to not hold anything against Olly even when Jon knew it was the same person who killed the person he loved! Jon was the epitome of Grace. Again, fuck Olly! 😆

cstarklady

Exactly. She never served the Starks, she served Lady C. But now she’s using a reformatted portion of Ned’s sword to behead the man Ned supported for king on the land where Ned lived, which is super rough. And the person who gave her the sword, Jaime, would have supported her killing Stannis. There’s a lot of fascinating layers to that scene.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

And Jon snow did nothing to Olly but care for him and take him under his wing. If Olly had helped kill a wildling in revenge it’d probably be different. But it’s been fuck Olly for 8 years now, always will be.

Katie Thomas

I watched this show during its original run. I was so hooked after the first season that I read the books. The last scene in the last book is the last scene here. I was so mad I literally threw the book.

Cynthia Goldman

joker moments compilation at the end pls

Adrian

I nearly broke my tv throwing the remote at it the night this episode aired. I hadn’t read the books yet. Having said that, Jon Snow is 100% dead in the books.

Katie Thomas

Um..Jon Snow is dead in the books 😂

Daniel Jackson

I agree he had his reasons. That said, he’s a fictional character who killed a fictional character that I liked far more, so FUCK OLLY. :)

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

I never mentioned any episodes

I❤️movies&tvshows

wasn't that long ago too. Nowadays 9 months between seasons would be unheard of. Seems like now its 2+ years.

Nick Wright

Huh. Do you think maybe in the show, the implication is supposed to be that it is ok for women (but not men) to hurt girls in Dorne? Like that’s what is culturally acceptable and unacceptable for their genders?

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

I guess you could rationalize his actions because he became a follower of the Lord of Light. He thought he was doing the will of the one true God.

Robert L

I don't get the Cersei simps in the comments. She is cruel to everyone in the show and she has done nothing positive in 5 seasons so far.

Robert L

Cannibals killed his parents in front of him, told him they would eat them, and likely did. Olly did nothing wrong.

Julien

People that threaten to gouge a womans eyes out like Cersei has shown to do immediately upon meeting them at the age of like..11 doesn't help people sympathize with such a character. It gives the impression she was always this person, and was not formed into such by her environment.

SuddenImpulse

The mentioning specific episodes was too much yes.

SuddenImpulse

And isn’t even accurate 😂 Jon Snow is absolutely dead in the books, and they are implying he’s not and that the showed changed that causing Martin to quit 😂

Scuba Steve

We had to wait 9 months to see what happens next when it Aired!!!

Phillip

and im sorry but the music during the ending scene is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

micah

I wish I could

Ziltoidia

any time pudgey started to feel bad for cersei spartan shut that down so fast hahahahahahaha

micah

Season 6 is my personal favorite, you’re in for a treat!

Taqle

this is spoilery

Adam Motamedi

You want de good girl but you need de bad pooseyyyy

Ziltoidia

Where do you guys get the idea that Melissandra can raise the dead? She’s only a seer not a healer. Certain priest have certain powers. Only Borus has the power to heal. Honestly that was our thoughts too in hopes Jon Snow can be revived and save the executives necks for doing that shit. I remember I was so pissed when the executives double-downed that Jon stays dead, just like a true Lannister. Fuck D&D. Obviously the actor and executives didn’t see eye-to-eye and wanted him off the show.

Junriel Roa

Man you guys took the death of Jon Snow really well. A lot of people rage quit and lobbied against the show executives after this show. Even GRRM quit the show after this. This was a significant time point in the series where a lot of people hated the show. A lot of deviations from the book from here on out. There’s even rumors out there of Kit Harington wanting to make a series about Jon Snow before his untimely death. Because we all know GRRM still has Snow alive in the books. Don’t look it up cause there’s definitely spoilers on how GOT should’ve ended. But like you said, so many wasted potential after all that build-up just for the suckiest death of the most beloved character in the series. They did Jon dirty. But D&D wanted that realism and shock factor which is GOT.

Junriel Roa

A code doesn’t justify these horrible acts. If Joffrey was a warrior would that made him any better ? Fuck no. Atleast Cersei loves her children and wants to protect them at any costs

Rey Jr

@Sasha Why is it that people keep rationalizing Cersei's behavior yet shit on Ramsay, Joffrey, Walder Frey etc? It's cuz she's a woman! <-- See how ridiculous that sounds? Also since you seem to think that women in the show get hated on just because they're women... are we not allowed to like Olenna anymore :( or Sansa, Arya, Margaery, Brienne.... what a conundrum. Or maaayyybeeee, why don't we just enjoy the show and just like who we like and hate who we hate based on the events of the show and not based on their gender?

Gam Mac

JUST KEEP WATCHING!!!!!

Jackson

What redeeming quality does Cersei have aside from loving her children? I like Cersei as a character, but she's a horrible person. A well-written villain but still a villain.

Munir

Also keep this in mind for the comments. Yes, I can't forgive what Stannis did but you can still feel for a character you went on a journey with. He was a good man who decided to become despicable to get what he felt was important. His fall has been foreshadowed since season 2. He was easily manipulated by what he felt was his birthright.

Erwin Smith

Season 6 is my personal favorite season. So stay strong! You're in for a great upcoming season.

Marcell

Yeah that’s pretty much a deal breaker for me when it comes to rooting for a character. Even as horrible of a person Cersei is, she isn’t killing one of her kids.

Louis Melendez

You don't get it . It's not about letting it play out. It's about the disrespect to the memories of all the brothers that died by wildlings

Ohene Boateng

I don't think it's true that Cersei is needlessly cruel. In her mind, everything she does is to protect her family, or more accuratly, her children. If you really look at everything she does, most of it can be linked to the prophecy she recieved, where she was told all her children would die and a new Queen would cast her down. Most of what she does can be seen as trying to preventthis from happening, at all cost.

Tinths

Yeah the hate for Olly reminds me of a character from AOT. To add this is a kid. Putting aside emotion for the greater good is hard even for a mature adult to accept.

Erwin Smith

So “kin-slaying” in Westeros is considered one of the greatest sins against the Gods. All kinslayers are cursed after, which is why many believe Stannis took such a hard turn for the worse after he killed Renly. The stories of other others committing this crime through history usually show the kinslayer becoming weak, skeletal, and grey-haired shortly after the murder.. which is exactly what happened to Stannis. Look at his appearance before Renly died & then look at his appearance at the beginning of this episode. I (and many others) believe he was cursed.

Kesley Effertz

My controversial take on this episode is that I have never understood the hate against Olly. I understand that betrayal is a great evil but... Cannibals killed and ate his parents, yo. In my view, Olly did nothing wrong.

Julien

A lot of people think they’re being “clever” in the comments by saying things but they’re really just spoilery.

Gummybear

Nah

Gummybear

I think it's weird that people can't see the reason for why Cersei is the way she is. She didn't become this way for no reason. And I'm not a Cersei fan, I just think it's weird that she is the only one who can not be given any slack. And I do see the redemtion that has been done by some of the other characters, I even mentioned some of them briefly. But at the same time, people overlook Cerseis redeeming qualities and why she does the things she does. Like, where is the redemption for Stannis of Tywin? Like I said at the end of my first comment, this was not meant as hate, and I wrote it with a bit of humor in mind 😊

Tinths

Yeah, I hated everything about the Dornish plot this season. I loved Oberyn and his people, this season trashed his people and his daughters.

cstarklady

😂

Gummybear

It doesn’t matter. Jon has shown him nothing but kindess, taken him under his wing, was literally mentoring him to be his successor and this is how he betrays him. Yuck! Olly already got his revenge by killing Ygritte and Jon forgave him for that too.

Gummybear

Same, I never even noticed that Sam said that to Olly to kind of encite him to do it also! (by misunderstanding what sam really meant)

Anthony Brown

Jon made some really bad decisions. keeping Allistar around. rasing Olly, knowing what happened with his family. Giving mercy to mance. I would argue even killing the coward on the block.

Stannis loves grammar.

Isn't it even worse and hypocritical though? To cause all that destruction despite having a code? Does he truly have a code if he let Melisandre influence him this much? At least Cersei doesn't pretend to have any honor. How can you justify burning people to death, including your own daughter? Whatever code Stannis had went as far as his own selfish ambitions in my opinion. He was so stubborn that he prefered causing this much pain rather than giving up on his birth right. And unlike Daenerys, there is nothing progressive or revolutionnary about him that could somewhat justify the brutality. This man would not have created a better world if he ended up winning the throne. What is even his vision? In the show he doesn't seem to have one.

Lise

These characters are so flawed. decisions, as Oberyn says.

Stannis loves grammar.

You’re weird if you can’t see the difference and the fact that most of those characters you mentioned have redeemed themselves while cercie continues to be evil to everyone

Gummybear

I try to respect people’s different opinions and feelings towards different characters or situations but I do have to say I don’t know how to feel about Spartan’s opinion on Stannis like how could you feel admiration and respect towards a man who let his daughter a little girl be burned alive

Madison

Oberyn definitely wanted revenge but I agree that he may not have been in favour of the way ellaria chose to do it. But again she was running out of options and was being consumed by her growing rage at the prince for refusing to seek justice and threatening her to just let it go and forget, while playing nice with Jamie and bronn in her face.

Gummybear

@Locke is MVP of this video comment section.

SuddenImpulse

Definitely High Sparrow for me. As James said he has this degree of smugness and way of doing things that bothered me more.

SuddenImpulse

because he's a man

Sasha

In the books you have some...idk if "lower-level magic" is the right way to describe it but some people can use what are called glamours, which are appearance altering magics. The faceless men face swapping is described as a sort of very very powerful type of glamour, but yes the faces are required. Arya was "poisoned" by the face because she had not done what was necessary to wear it without consequence. All magic is a double edged sword in this world.

SuddenImpulse

I don’t understand what rules I violated. Are you replying to the other commenter who replied to my message? We are starting season 6 and other people also commented it was their favorite.

I❤️movies&tvshows

The book (and show) doesn't need to "make sense" when it comes to character's fate. Jon made hard decisions, and made enemies. We all know he was right but still, he got blindsided. This is the type of s*** that happens in a well written story, when character don't have a thick plot armor.

Chris C

Please read the rules we post on each video and revise your comments or S&P will personally remove them. Especially that comment mentioning specific episodes.... Thank you!

SuddenImpulse

I just have to point out that I think it's so weird how Spartan can forgive everyone for anything, but NOT Cersei 😅 Jamie: Tries to kill a child, talks trash to Jon, Brienne ect, attacks Ned in the streets in Kings Landing and kill all his men, makes jokes to Catlyn when Ned dies, sides with the Boltons and the Freys. But then he's nice for a while, so all is forgiven. Stannis: Is a fanatic, burn people alive to please his God, cheats on his wife, kills his brother with black magic, wants to sacrifice his nephew to gain power, use blood magic to ensure Robb dies, throws Davos in jail for "betraying" him, neglect his daughter all her life then BURN HER ALIVE. But he's a good solider and for some reason Spartan has sympathy for him 😅 The Hound: Kills the Butchers boy, helped with the attack on Ned when he's betrayed by Little finger, holding Neds head up to show the crowd after the beheading, telling on Sansa when she had her first period (which meant that she could now be with Joffrey). But he's nice to Arya, so he is forgiven. Theon: Sexually harass Osha, betrays Robb, takes over Winterfell, kills Ser Rodrick, kills and burn two innocent farmer boys (he would have killed Bran and Rickon if he had found them). But all is forgiven after he is tortured (fair enough, he did really pay for his mistakes). Tywin: Killed Robb at a wedding, mistreats Tyrion all his life, paid a prostitute to pretend to love him and marry him, then had all his men sleep with her in front of him (remember Jamie was in on this), frames Tyrion for the murder of Joffrey and planned to have him killed. Was coldhearted towards his children all his life. But he somehow even made it on the love list. Cersei: I know she's a bitch and that she's not a good person, but she has a lot of redeeming qualities and her actions are not the worst on this list. She is hateful towards Tyrion because her father (who she looks up to) told her that he is the reason her mother died. Was basically sold to the King and is first hopeful and happy, but then he doesn't care at all about her and basically embarass her in front of the entire kingdom by whoring around and having lots of bastards. Grows more hateful because of all of this. Her daughter gets sent away to Dorne (basically sold the same way Cersei was) because of Tyrion, so now she hates him more because she can't even keep her safe. She loves her children unconditionally and does everything she can to prevent the prophecy from coming true. And she does have compassion. She even did feel sorry for Sansa if you remeber the conversation she had with her when she had her period. Yes, she does "smirk" at the people of Kings Landing who have misfortune, but they have never showed her any love, so why should she care about them? And she was happy when Oberyn died, because from her view she was getting justice for the murder of her son. Anyways, I just think it's kind of funny that everything anyone else does can be forgiven, but with Cersei it's "Yuck, I hate her, she smirked at peoples misfortune" 😅 By the way, this is not meant as hate! I just think it's funny, and I love both Spartan and Pudgey 😊

Tinths

Tv has changed a lot in the last 10 years and has prompted and required viewers to think more analytically and smarter about the writing. With all of the amazing tv shows of three last decade post Game of Thrones season 1, I think its safe to say that people watch TV very differently now.

kelly

I still can’t believe you guys have empathy with Stannis after he freaking burned his daughter. Great reaction though.

Rey Jr

no one said stannis was the greatest alive. but he did have a code, and he did have a purpose. even though he did some horrible things he believed it was the only way to claim his destiny. where as Cersie enjoys needlessly being cruel, jealous and vindictive on a daily basis. she thrives off others sufferring.

CpaSpartan Pudgey

I can agree that ellaria wanted some type of revenge, however, this is not what Oberyn wanted. He specifically told the Lannisters that Dorne is a place that does not condone the murder of children. I am not one to hate on the writers however, the way that they wrote the sandsnakes was so over the top and so unlike the Dornish.

Cam

damn that sucks! that's a pretty heavy spoiler 😅

CpaSpartan Pudgey

@sasha As a few mentioned above already, i mentioned in this video id love to watch Joffrey and Ramsey go through the same humiliation. I dont care what gender Cersie is, she has been cruel and abusive since day 1 and has treated next to no one that isn't serving her needs with any honour or care. she has murdered repeatedly, so compared to that this is but a small price to pay in my eyes. of course that's just my opinion 🙂

CpaSpartan Pudgey

This is why I love reactions! I've seen this episode so many times and never made the connection of the screw Sansa picked up in a previous episode to unlock her door in this one! Its the little things!

faika hammoud

😂😂😭

Tugboat

You need to translate patriarchal into five different languages please. It’s the matriarchal thing to do.

D.C.

Your hate for Cersei is absolutely deserved.

Jaroslav Dočekal

I thought the same thing they did after I read this scene in the book 5 years before this episode ever aired.

D.C.

the fact this sh*t hasn't happened in the book is what's still giving me hope, such a bad ending to a warrior like stanis, RIP

abdulrahman

Yeah. I also thought about the fact that Ned’s sword was used to killed Stannis on Winterfell lands.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I was so ready for Stannis to die. After Shireen, I had no respect left for him. I just can’t relate when people are disappointed with his death. I mean, I’m pretty sure lighting your child on fire and standing there listening to her death screams is just as bad as anything Ramsay has done.

Brit’sBiscuits

It doesn’t matter who was directly responsible. Tywin is dead so she can never get revenge on him, she wants revenge on the HOUSE Lannister not any individual person. She finally saw that the prince of dorne was not going to seek vengeance nor support her in her quest and with Marcella leaving she knew this could have been her last opportunity so she took it. I doubt she relished in having to kill Marcella but it was a means to an end and she knew it was her strongest play in hurting BOTH cercie and Jamie who are the last heads of the Lannister house. So yeah it’s just as justified as anyone else in the show who has killed innocents. And aw thank you :) I don’t mean to be harsh either! Characters actions are never black and white in this show so it’s always nice to share opinions.

Gummybear

He did acknowledge a few times that it was hard to watch meaning he did feel some empathy too but still believes it was deserved

Gummybear

@kayla none of these things are requirements for a good acting performance. Go look up a lot of the greatest actors in certain roles, series, films and you'll be suprised how many of them had the same feelings and mentality about their most famous role. Dillane actually was a fantastic casting for Stannis, even if the show version was quite different.

SuddenImpulse

Book Stannis and show Stannis are drastically different. Most Stannis fans are fans of his book version not the butchered show version. Many of the things people dislike his show character for, the situation is different or he doesn't do, think it believe those things in the books for example.

SuddenImpulse

Let's be fair, Spartan did say he would love this for Ramsay and Joffery more than once. He also said how defeated she looked and how hard it was to watch a couple times too. It's really not a gender thing. If the punishment fits the crime is the real debate with this one.

Shellbot

The Lannisters didn’t kill Oberyn (btw, he wasn’t her husband, they were paramours), Oberyn volunteered to be Tyrion’s champion because he wanted to fight The Mountain. I hated his death as much as anyone else, I promise, but it was trial by (voluntary) combat—not murder. Cersei chose her champion before Oberyn was Tyrion’s champion, it’s not like she chose The Mountain to specifically kill Oberyn. Now let’s break down why it was wrong to kill Marcella for “revenge”: 1. She wasn’t even alive when Oberyn’s sister, niece, and nephew were murdered 2. It wasn’t Cersei or Jaime who ordered those deaths, it was Tywin (who is now dead by Tyrion—bummer Ellaria didn’t round that up to “good enough” for revenge for all the wrongs) 3. Marcella wasn’t even in King’s Landing when Oberyn was killed, and was not involved in his death in any way 4. Oberyn said multiple times that they don’t hurt little girls in Dorne—he would not have wanted Marcella to be murdered If Ellaria went to King’s Landing and gave a poisoned kiss to The Mountain, that would have been justifiable revenge. But otherwise, she’s just kicking over anthills and taking her anger out on the wrong target. Her pain is justified; her actions are not. Edited to add: I hope this didn’t come across as harsh. It’s weird to disagree with you, as I generally really enjoy your comments. :)

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

People commenting on future content: please read the comment rules. They are posted on 95% of videos.

SuddenImpulse

thanks for coming with arguments and not insults like the incels in this thread. I still feel sympathy for Cersei in that moment, even if only in that moment, and so did Pudgey clearly so it felt strange Spartan kept legitimising this very patriarchal form of violence

Sasha

go fuck yourself I'm allowed to defend myself when some inbread asshole calls me dumb. "Snowflake" what an incel redneck boomer thing to say

Sasha

Frankenstein mountain is so creepy

Gummybear

Yes, I think the actor did amazing, but the caracther Stannis is someone i could never root for at all.

Morten Stenseth

Yeah I feel like they didn’t really acknowledge the weight of that moment

Gummybear

Delete this

Gummybear

Lol calm down. Cerci doesn’t need to inflict the exact same punishment to be worthy of this punishment. She has done countless of horrible things. You can still have empathy for what she is going through but there is no denying that her actions have warranted this punishment and worse.

Gummybear

"Don't call me a snowflake" Also "I speak 5 languages look how special and unique I am" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gam Mac

Everyone in this show seeks revenge against their enemies why would alaryia be any different? Why would she show mercy to the lannisters who killed her husband and brutally murdered his sister and her children? She knows Oberyn’s life’s mission was to get justice for that murder so she is seeking revenge for herself as much as she is doing it for Oberyn since he wasn’t able to do it himself.

Gummybear

Just remember that Jorah's father (Jeor Mormont) was murdered by his own men at the Night's Watch, seems to be a thing.

Jon Biavati

Can we all recognise Locke as the GOAT for that comment

Mzuka

Bitch I speak 5 langages donc va niquer ta mère you patronising piece of shit

Sasha

RIP the bastard of Winterfell! These days bastards can rise high like your half brother to become lord commander of the night's watch! Total sadness!

Stannis loves grammar.

I agree with Spartan’s views on Cersei, she brought it on herself. But I just can’t agree with the views on Stannis. After burning your daughter alive (a fate so cruel and horrific that Jon went against a kings orders to put a grown man out of misery.) and you inflict that fate on an innocent little girl. Your child that you apparently love? You deserve zero respect for anything after that.

Daniel Jackson

I mean he wasn't totally lying... there was 2 chapters after Jon's death which was technically events in season 6 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gam Mac

I hated Ramsay but I never really liked Stannis either. His only redeeming moment for me was when he acted like a loving father and told Shireen the lengths he went to prevent her greyscale from spreading only to go and horrifically sacrifice her a few episodes later.

RuinedX

The mods are going to tell you to delete this.

Corey

I remember after this season ended, I asked a co-worker who bragged about reading the books if the books went past season five, and he assured me that the latest one did. Well, I was livid with that mf after I read that entire book, and it ended the same. I did enjoy the other characters, though.

Tugboat

You guys are so lucky that you don't have to wait almost a year for the next season. I started watching Game of Thrones as Season 5 was airing and that cliffhanger finale was crazy.

RuinedX

Every time something bad happens and you react with disbelief I am reminded of how Ramsay warned you back in season 3: "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."

Markus

Ellaria says she’s avenging Oberyn, but he would have been SO DISAPPOINTED in Ellaria for murdering Marcella. He said more than once that they don’t hurt little girls in Dorne.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

And neither of them were right in the end. They saved no one and hurt a lot of people in the process. So maybe just doing the decent thing is all you really can do.

cstarklady

The only they predicted Was brienne killing stannis.

DrückebergerTV

😒

cstarklady

Cersei deserved every bit of her punishment

Eddie House

I can't believe John is killed off like this! I will NEVER get over it. Who's gonna lead against the fight vs. The Night King now?! Game Of Thrones until this very day, I will NEVER forgive you for this grave mistake of killing off John like this. He deserved BETTER!!!!!! :(

Eddie House

I honestly could not bring myself to feel bad for Stannis at this point. Of course Ramsay is a monster, but after killing Shireen, I no longer cared about Stannis at all. Certainly couldn't root for him to win anything. Poor Jon, though. Such a cruel twist at the end.

Marvelous JJ

Episodes 5, 9 and 10 are god tier

James Woodford

I was lol’ing that whole scene because of that

James Woodford

Dont use words you fail to understand.

JonYellowSnow

It’s really cool that Brienne got to use Oathkeeper to avenge Renly, which is one of the first vows she made. I’m happy for her getting her closure.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Jon snow really did know nothing :’(

Steven

Don't call me a snowflake who the fuck are you? don't project your shit on me

Sasha

it would be her own medicine if she had done that to someone and she didn't.

Sasha

Cersei did it all to herself. She tried to screw over the Tyrells and got a taste of her own medicine.

Munir

Yeah I wanted to be on the High Sparrow's side but he was just so insufferable

Munir

I❤️movies&tvshows

Calm down snowflake,has nothing to do with gender lol.He just said he would have loved that to happen to Joffrey.Stop looking for reasons to be offended.

JonYellowSnow

agreed

Abby

delete

Abby

he is just a kid. his parents where murdered by the wildings in front of his eyes.

Abby

Spartan your constant rationalising of Cersei's torture is hard to watch. Like we get it you hate her, but nobody deserves that and you probably wouldn't be feeling this way if a man version of Cersei was treated like this.

Sasha

Exactly!!

Abby

S&P, please don't read the following! . . . . . . . . . . . . . Instead of blaming reactors for having a brain, consider the reality that the writing simply became more predictable. Not a single thing guessed in this episode indicates foreknowledge. I've seen countless reactors anticipate these developments.

Julien

Season 6 is one of the best seasons, so mourn and then keep going.

fritz

Hes an Actor. Thats what he did sind what he was paid for, thats it and he delivered.

DrückebergerTV

*2015.

DrückebergerTV

It's sad that obviously these guys have been spoiled beforehand. Every single thing being predicted perfectly. The reactions were night and day from the previous seasons.

Harvey Orbeta

I had a similar reaction like you guys. I just sat there with my jaw dropped in disbelief. Then after like 5 minutes realization hit me and I started sobbing lol Also: FUCK OLLY

Anna J

Season 6 is my favourite I cannot wait guys!

Dani

I would be so pissed lol. I read the books before starting the show a few years ago and when i was on the first still, my father in law says “has Ned Stark died yet?” I was in the chapter before it happened and i didn’t speak to him for like 3 weeks.

AG

yeah my bad. Just realised how old I am

Philippe

season 5 aired in 2015?

kkoe

I don't know what the deal was in the show cause they diverged quite a bit with the magic, it's kind of inconsistent. I think you're right about the stolen face poisoning her. As far as the books go, it doesn't play out like this at all. Faceless Men need the faces to change their face, so you can't have more than one person wearing a face at the same time. Arya is blinded as a punishment rather than as a result of being allergic to the magic or anything like that.

Mzuka

Lol right. I watched the first episode of season 6 standing up the entire time lmaooo

kelly

"Does the book writer just not like the Starks or something?" Welcome to a 30 year fandom Spartan 😂 Waited so long to see this moment and it did not disappoint.

Mzuka

This was the only episode I'd ever been spoiled for. I was watching the show as it was airing and because of work, I missed it the night this episode aired. The next day, as I was sitting down to put it on, my sister casually is like "Jon Snow died" 😮...I was crushed. I couldn't even enjoy the episode because all I could think about is when was it gonna happen. I still give her grief about it to this day lol

kelly

yeah, the wait was horrible

Philippe

FUCK OLLY

Katie Thomas

This is true, where are all the FUCK OLLY comments?!

James K

Yes, we all had to put our faith in bran and sansa after the death of Jon. The Starks are becoming rare.

Philippe

This is actually a great contrast between Cersei and Stannis now that I think about it. Cersei is the type of person who would destroy the world to save her child, and Stannis would destroy his child to save the world.

James K

man's lookin more defeated than stannis at this point

Locke

to be honest, No one expected that in 2018 hahaha

Philippe

You guys be talking about mellisandra and all. BUT ALL THE HOMIES HATE OLLY

Philippe

at least he didn't burn children alive

Locke

season 6 is elite. Seaons 7 is okay, at times bad. Season 8 is death

Philippe

@Philippe Everything.

Locke

Yes the same here. This is where I stopped watching the show

Philippe

He believed he was to save the world. What is the life of his daughter against the whole world.

Philippe

The episode ending hits you like a freight train after watching the rest of the episode.

Valcor

When you said we will not find out till next episode it was funny because it was a a longer time for us.

Valcor

Jon will be missed. You can't imagine the shock back in 2018 when this happened

Philippe

Honestly Spartan I thought you'd be destroyed by Stannis' death and defeat, you held on sooo well. For John Snow... yeah that was about what I expected... Btw for the "Faceless Men" (as someone who absolutely has not read the books), even though it may seem in the show they they just "wear" actual faces to disguise themselves, you can see that the dead "Jaqen" had Jaqen's face despite Jaqen still being alive, as well as Arya's face despite Arya still being alive. Therefore I think it's just straight up magic (which isn't really far fetched in a world with white walkers, red priests, dragons and witches). The faces in the hall I guess are for training maybe ? (again not read the book pure speculation), because Jaqen said only "No one" could use them, and since Arya wasn't "No one" when she kill Meryn Trant, the "face" she used was like poison and blinded her. That's how I personally understand it at least. As for Cersei's punishment, I don't know if she properly "deserved" it, but she is a horrible person and she had it coming because she HERSELF is the one who gave the religious nutjobs weapons and power. (what's for sure is that the actress is excellent and it's hard not to feel hard for her in that scene).

Mathπ

You need to remember that Stannis was a true believer, he thought he needed to do this to save the realm. He was told by Melisandre that he needed to be King to save everyone. Stannis had an iron will, he burnt his own daughter alive because he truly believed it was necessary to save everyone. What a tragic end. He was a horrible father in the end, but damn he had some balls.

James K

I feel you guys so much, I sobbed at Ned's death, I sobbed at the red wedding but I did not shed a single tear when Jon died because I was in pure shock and disbelief. I was so mad I quit watching the show for three years.

Cam

High Sparrow 100%. Hate that guy, so smug.

James K

all these years and I still can't decide who is the most insufferable character of the show, Melisandre or the High Sparrow

Mar

No respect for Stannis. He burned hundreds of people including his own daughter for nothing. Just as bad as Cersei.

Rey Jr

Looking forward to many "far out dude"s

Snair

Cracking tf up at Pudgey’s denial at the end

AG

It sucks that Pudgey & Sparta think Jon's death is not real. I would've figure they'd cry harder than when Robb died. I cried hard when Jon died. And I had a whole year to mourn for that, only to be comforted by Bran "the great" Stark the following season. This was brutal for sure, but trust me guys, the renewal of Bran Stark will make you guys forget about Jon & Robb.

Junriel Roa

Rest in peace Jon! Bran Stark, you're up! Finally the main character is taking over.

Junriel Roa

AND FUCK THE SAND SNAKES

Locke

I agree with Spartan. I don’t feel sorry for Cersei and F@&k Melisandre

Louis Melendez

What a brilliantly brutal episode! Hope you guys are not too depressed! At least you don't need to wait long to see what happens next, feel free to start season 6 asap! ;)

James K

Same, and I also never bought that he is "the chosen one" or whatever. No way... Also after what he did to Shireen, there was no way I could have wanted to see him rewarded for how much he fought. Even if Melisandre played a part, at the end of the day he made his choice.

Lise

Book readers are still waiting... 11 years, 9 months and 1 day...

James K

FUCK MELISANDRE

Locke

Stannis deserves what he got don’t get me wrong but Cersei is the worst. She’s done a lot more than kill one boy

ken

Can you imagine being a fan of the show when it was airing and to be left with this insane cliffhanger and having to wait over a year for the next season. Longest year of my life

Destinee Yang

Can we please talk about what was truly exceptional this episode? And that is how beautiful the Dornish dresses are. ;) Marcella looked like she was floating around in hibiscus flower petals. Absolutely beautiful gowns. (Trying to keep things lighthearted. It was beautiful and sad that she died in her father’s arms—very like Joffrey died in Cersei’s arms—right when they were really connecting as father/daughter for the first time.)

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Stannis kill men, women and children by the hundreds, burning them alive, and somehow he is the greatest guy alive. But Cersei kills one boy and she deserves the worst of the worst.

Mysterion Amalgium

Now just remember how we all felt. We waited a YEAR for season 6!!! Lol. It was probably the most brutal moment in television history. Worse than the red wedding honestly…

Lynda Olson

Yup. This wasn’t the first hard to watch death, and it won’t be the last. But keep your faith that GoT will always keep storyline content worth your continued watching.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

Now sit down and wait a year for the next episode just like I did LOL

Morten Stenseth

Can't wait for season 6 reactions there is some great stuff ahead you guys! I think Stannis' death scene was just a cinematic choice because they cut Brienne swinging the sword with Ramsay swinging his also.

Nicole Herd

Cersei is a monster who literally deserves to be tortured to death. How is it even possible for people to say she doesn't deserve that? Now that said, she's also one of my favourite characters.

Roy Koopa

nah this show died after season 4 so no the best is not yet to come but yes they shouldnt give up either

Sean Carroll

Tbf they cast him perfectly then. Stannis' entire character is all about doing what he sees as his duty and nothing else lol

Liam Hewitt

It’s that I hate the high sparrow and his followers more. So the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Darrell Henry

I was waiting for this episode lol

Betty Alice

yeah fuck cersei, dont understand people who give a shit or better

Sean Carroll

i had no idea thats where the books left off thats crazy

Peyton R

this is where the books left off. GOT is like being in an abusive, codependent relationship.

Kimberly Cunningham

I hate the Boltons too, but I also remember being THRILLED to see that wide shot of them about to absolutely wreck Stannis after what he did to Shireen.

Jonny Rey

haven't watched the reaction yet but... someone check on Spartan 😂🙏🏻

Mar

I’m cracking up at Spartan’s refusal to feel bad for Cersei lol I’m the same way

ken

Man I still remember being where you guys are, watching this episode broke me and the worst part was knowing this was the final ep of the season and at the time knowing it would be a whole year before we got the next season

Andy B

I’ve been dreading this one. I’m almost tempted to hold off on it until you’ve seen some of season 6. Jon Snow is my favorite character, so I feel your pain right now.

cstarklady

Season 5 ended in June 2015, the first episode of season 6 was aired on 24th April 2016, so you had to wait 10 months.

Minister Kosh

Melisandre is truly a cautionary tale of religious fundamentalism... When your absolute belief goes so far that it overrides your natural human instincts. She has been able to kill/burn people alive w/ no emotion because she truly believed she was "purifying their souls" and sending them to be with her lord. Now that her grand plans are crumbling and her faith is wavering, she suddenly has to come to terms with the horror she's inflicted on people.

Ietseatapples

Elizabeth D.

Chin up, Spartan. You got through the Red Wedding so you can get through anything.

The Door

same. and the actor didn’t give a shit about the series either. he didn’t even know what was going on in the story he would just show up and read lines. didn’t do any press and didn’t care enough to learn the story. he’s been an insufferable old man from the get go for me

Kayla Carlyle

RIP Jon Snow

Mandala Meditation by Gabrielle

I dont understand the love for Stannis lol. I couldn't stand him from the moment he met up with Renly. Also, jon didnt have the only valerian steel sword. There are multiple spread throughout the 7 kingdoms. Neds was even melted down into the 2 swords that Tywin gave Joffery and Jamie.

Tae Kellz

This is how the books currently end - with Jon's death. We're still missing 2 books to wrap up the series so folks were all going nuts after season 5 ended here too.

Karissa

Not sure if tmi but I feel like this is a safe space to say, I have absolutely no empathy for Stannis or his dreadful wife. As a survivor of parental abuse for 23 years I was enraged by seeing the way they treated Shireen and killed her. Fuck them both! I know it's just a work of fiction, it didn't really happen but got damn! Gets you in the feels. Also RIP Jonny boi

Josh Jones

That thumbnail is cracking me up, especially knowing what happens this episode.

Munir

Hes been dead in the books for over 12 years now. RIP Jon Snow

Adrian Neagoe

They really killed Jon Snow because of racism Smh

Carlos C

I was not expecting this today. I thank the old gods and the new!

NeneSays

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Shellbot

In discussion after the previous episode both of you were so confident in your enumeration of people who won't survive S5, not once did it cross your mind you might still lose someone you really love. Even after 5 seasons you still haven't learned 😂

Milorad

The Best Is Yet To Come. Remember this line. DON'T QUIT.

Fran Navarro

Rip Jon Snow😭

David J

I’ve been waiting on this one lol

ken