spartanandpudgey : Game of Thrones 5x8 Reaction & Review

The sparrow(the leader of the faith militant) became the high septon due to Cersei empowering him and imprisoning the original high septon

Sean Fitzpatrick

2023-05-03 22:38:50 +0000 UTC

Definitely my favorite episode of this season. And to respond to something that Spartan said, it’s not that the books have more details. The issue is that significant plot lines and important aspects of the story were completely left out or changed. And while this episode focused on the White Walkers, in general the show really downplays the magical aspects of the story in a pretty big way. The show runners seemed to really love the political drama and intrigue of this story. And rightly so. It’s just that other things suffered as a result of that being their primary focus.

Blackeyedlily

2023-05-01 13:29:22 +0000 UTC

#8 in my top 10 GOT episodes. Hardhome is GOT at it's best.

Meraxes

2023-04-29 04:51:33 +0000 UTC

It did happen in the books, but it was just a mentioned line in a sentence or something like that.

Jaroslav Dočekal

2023-04-19 18:57:44 +0000 UTC

I disagree too. I think maybe you can’t know whats wrong with season 5 until you see the whole thing. But there is a lot wrong with season 5.

Izattyi

2023-04-18 03:14:23 +0000 UTC

Very well said

Gummybear

2023-04-17 04:50:35 +0000 UTC

We are watching the same show but it seems we’re watching for different reasons. Some ppl just watch for the cheap action thrills and cinematography which is why they like season 6, while others watch for the complex writing and in depth character development which is why they like seasons 1-4 which is why you find them slow.

Gummybear

2023-04-17 04:47:32 +0000 UTC

Exactly!

Gummybear

2023-04-17 04:44:01 +0000 UTC

Complete. She's evil in actions and in her heart. She is incapable of any empathy toward humans who aren't her parents, her brother or their kids. Had Joffrey survived, she would happily have watched her sadist son torture innocent person after innocent person without losing a wink of sleep.

Simone Cherie

2023-04-16 20:18:06 +0000 UTC

I agree with you Pudgey, I already loved the mother/chief wildling. She really had a lot of charisma and wisdom, but of course it's GoT so the best ones gotta leave first :(((

Mathπ

2023-04-16 18:45:16 +0000 UTC

Isn't it fascinating that Margeary after a few days (weeks) of imprisonment (and her brother's imprisonment) still held up her façade and composure, but Cersei cracked in very little time.

Mathπ

2023-04-16 14:20:47 +0000 UTC

Arguably one of my favorite episodes in the entire series. Tyrion finally interacting with Dany, Cersei being imprisoned, and the fight at hardhome just makes for one jam packed episode of absolute awesomeness. You were paying attention in the entirety of the episode, glued to the screen wondering what would happen next. Jon is an absolute badass in this episode, and shows his worth as a leader immensely through his speech to the wildlings. Seeing you guys react to this series, and this episode in particular brings out so many emotions for me as it feels like I'm rewatching through your eyes. Your reactions are so genuine and such a breath of fresh air. I love the content, keep it up!

Bill Brittain

2023-04-16 07:00:42 +0000 UTC

I can’t wait for the last 2 episodes of season 5 to come out! It’s only been a week but it feels like it’s been longer lol

Chaz D

2023-04-16 06:51:34 +0000 UTC

cap

Juan

2023-04-15 21:20:40 +0000 UTC

The lady who was torn apart by Wight kids? Her name was KARSI of the Frozen Shore people, who ride chariots made of walrus bones pulled by packs of dogs.

Martin Robertson

2023-04-14 08:13:48 +0000 UTC

Very well said!

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

2023-04-13 15:54:22 +0000 UTC

Loved that! Even we who watched it the first time as it aired were spoiled when they aired trailers for Hardhome. Spartan and Pudgey’s reactions were so genuine.

cstarklady

2023-04-13 12:38:15 +0000 UTC

Just wanted to say I agree about taking the time off. Don’t let anyone give you shit for it, Spartan and Pudgey, this should be fun, not a chore. I also agree about the wildling warrior woman. I didn’t mind her dying, she had a fantastic small arc that got us to care about her in a short time. I did mind her dying without continuing to fight. I don’t buy she would stop when she had live children she wanted to get back to. I could understand it more if it was a moment’s hesitation that tripped her, but she full on gave up after she saw it was kids.

cstarklady

2023-04-13 12:22:41 +0000 UTC

nah 6 is decent, 7 is where the shit hits the fan

Buğrahan Bilaloğlu

2023-04-13 09:23:36 +0000 UTC

same, season 6 has 2 of the best episodes of the entire show, so can't wait!

Tome M

2023-04-13 00:37:38 +0000 UTC

and it's not even a single right. 2 innocent boys were still killed.

Tome M

2023-04-13 00:35:16 +0000 UTC

the best line of the reaction. he's got balls that thenn! This episode is one of my favorites because it comes out of nowhere with the action!

Stannis loves grammar.

2023-04-12 23:31:19 +0000 UTC

I completely disagree, it's gradually get worse after this season.

Dname

2023-04-12 22:57:56 +0000 UTC

Actually I took care in not saying what happens or not happens in the TV series while writing the comment, cause I didn't want them to assume as I love their genuine reactions. Just said "In the prophecy, the series missed to add" (JUST the prophecy scene) but I was cautious in not to mention or imply that the outcome is omitted in the show. As you have already watched the series and read the books, you understood it that way, cause you are already spoiled, someone without that knowledge wouldnt assume so easily. Either way, now that you have said it, The comment will likely get deleted. Thank you for that 😔

Koldo Molina

2023-04-12 22:23:52 +0000 UTC

hold on, the hardhome battle never happened in the books no? so it is bullshit fro the showrunners.

Abby

2023-04-12 19:13:35 +0000 UTC

Is it not wonderful how we are all individuals with out own opinions and perspectives? :) To be fair I think alot of people that have actually read the book in general dislike the later seasons more than the people who haven't

Abby

2023-04-12 19:11:29 +0000 UTC

I agree but I also get people not enjoying the season. A long as Spartan and Pudgey enjoys it I am glad for them

Abby

2023-04-12 19:02:05 +0000 UTC

it has alot of epic moments, awesome visuals etc but everything else is not feelingn right to many people including me for reasons I cannot mention now. Not to judge anyone, the fact that Spartan and Pudgey enjoy it is all that matters to me now.

Abby

2023-04-12 19:00:43 +0000 UTC

yup. I would not have to be honest. Rights does not make wrongs undone

Abby

2023-04-12 18:58:12 +0000 UTC

I believe in nature vs nuture, it is more complicated that what people make it out to be. Take antisocial personality for example wich is the modern term for sociopathy and psychopathy is by current science both caused by genetics and enviorment. I do believe that Cersei at that age had a great deal of horrible trauma with her mother dying while giving birth to Tyrion and raised mostly by Tywin which we know to be a cruel man. Joffrey without doubt turned out the way he did because of her. Not to mention Robert never loved Joffrey. And absent father figure and a mother like Cersei, go figure. Cersei was locked in a tower while growing more beautiful and kept by Tywin until a good match according to him came along being sold to somebody Cersei actually adored. Not having any experience with dating or men, Robertobviously grieved Lyanna and did not care for Cersei at all. Tywin taught Cersei that being cold, calculated and using people gets you what you want. Look at behaviour and say it does not have any resemblence. In Cerseis world the only thing of value in her life and the world she is living in all that matters is power and her family. Can you blame her for that? Jon sure was disliked and put down by Catelyn but he had brothers and a father in the Starks. His upbringing is different by far. He was born a man and a bastard and in a way he had more choice and impact on his own life than Cersei by far.

Abby

2023-04-12 18:55:14 +0000 UTC

I disagree, this is when they ran out of book material. The season has alot of great moments, the battle at hardhome especially, it is not that at all. I cannot put my finger on it directly without spoiling anything. But I get it.

Abby

2023-04-12 18:45:09 +0000 UTC

One of the best episodes this season.

Rainbow

2023-04-12 18:22:18 +0000 UTC

“Makes perfect sense that she wouldn’t be able to kill the children.” But she didn’t have to make a decision about “killing” them because they were ALREADY dead. And they weren’t children. They were mindless white zombies in the decaying corpses of children—a terrible affront to nature.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

2023-04-12 13:37:31 +0000 UTC

I think people are just too critical. I think Season 5 was a good season. I think it's just mob mentality for everyone to hate on this season. Seasons 1-4 are a masterpiece because of how well all the stories intertwine with each other but I think this is a solid season.

Jenny Tolls

2023-04-12 09:14:28 +0000 UTC

Isn't this setting expectations? You do this on almost every reaction posted

William

2023-04-12 06:59:55 +0000 UTC

I was someone who went in to Season 5 hearing terrible things and after immensely enjoying it (I especially adore the High Sparrow situation bc its something different in KL) I was like what was everyone talking of? Certainly its more doom and gloom than previous seasons (which is saying something) but it made sense after the massive changes made in Season 4. All this to say glad you enjoyed! The brilliance in Hardhome is not seeing it coming and ofc people overhyped even that. I hope as we get into those higher stakes moments, people learn to let you guys find out for yourselves.

Julie

2023-04-12 05:25:58 +0000 UTC

I mean her kids were already safe, and while rationally what you’re saying makes sense, I think the reality of it is a lot harder to face. I personally have never encountered demon zombie babies, but it might be enough to overwhelm whatever instincts I have. For the mother, I imagine that she’s been imagining and dreading her own children dying and joining the army of the dead for months if not years. I can totally see her not being able to strike them. Writing wise, it’s quite neat to have it done this way because her characters whole ethos was “for the children”. She defied her ancestors and millennia of tradition because she was thinking of the children. Makes perfect sense that she wouldn’t be able to kill the children.

Mzuka

2023-04-12 04:40:34 +0000 UTC

This comment was in response to Spartan saying something about not understanding why some didn't like past season 4 so I didn't think I said anything they weren't already aware of.

Munir

2023-04-11 22:27:54 +0000 UTC

I celebrate that you like Jon even more than Robb now. The big question now is, will you ever love Tormund (the new “barbarian”) more than Khal Drogo?

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

2023-04-11 21:54:06 +0000 UTC

Delete this comment. You’re setting up expectations for the future.

Jenny Tolls

2023-04-11 21:36:55 +0000 UTC

She's horrible. The interesting thing in these discussions is that people tend to judge evil by the aggregate amount of suffering that someone has directly caused. In Cersei's case it's actually very little! People like Robb or Dany or Robert have caused more, simply by waging war! No, that's not how you measure evil. It's an age old question but in the context of stories like these, it's what's in someone's heart. Cersei Lannister is filled with contempt for literally every human being outside of her children and her father and Jaime. She is completely indifferent to what happens to others, and that attitude oozes thru her pores.

Julien

2023-04-11 19:09:28 +0000 UTC

It is a spoiler. You're talking about something that could happen but saying it's not in the show, which means it won't happen, etc. Hard to explain. But this explanation and the fact that it's omitted from the show, points S&P away from certain possibilities. Not sure how else to explain this.

Julien

2023-04-11 19:03:14 +0000 UTC

Don’t forget she’d rather feed the dogs the wedding feast leftovers than allow that food to go to starving people in her city. That’s some Ramsey level cruelty right there.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

2023-04-11 16:18:40 +0000 UTC

I love this episode and especially the wildling woman we meet with the elders, but I call BS on her not fighting off the white walker “kids.” Her mama bear instincts should have made her as fierce with them as any of the others, they are a threat to her own daughters (and every other Free Folk child), and they’re not children, they’re demon zombies. It REALLY bothered me that we get such a strong female character who’s also a warrior, and they imply that her sentiment suddenly stops her from her badass fighting. Her brain should have overruled her repulsion and sadness at seeing the zombie kids, and her adrenaline should have made her fight harder than ever thinking that this could be the fate of her children. I kept thinking, fight, fight, fight or you might be the one who makes your daughters join the army of the dead some day. I’d say RIP, but… she doesn’t. Edited to add: Happy Easter! This probably isn’t the resurrection you usually think about for Easter, but it was indeed a massive resurrection. S and P, people should have been nicer about you taking time off because you deserve to, but I hope you enjoyed the timing irony of this episode for Easter.

Don’tDrinkTheLuminol

2023-04-11 16:12:05 +0000 UTC

Talking about cersei's motivations and the things that explain her actual behaviour. I don't think this is an spoiler (if moderators feel like it feel free to remove the comment!) But In the prophecy, the series misses to add an important line which explains also her absolutely hate for tyrion "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." She has always thought that Tyrion will eventually kill her. That's the main reason she want him removed every chance she gets. I mean, she is a monster. But that line tell so much about her motivations and fears, also in the series.

Koldo Molina

2023-04-11 15:26:45 +0000 UTC

Sorry I was trying to not be spoilery. I deleted it.

Brit’sBiscuits

2023-04-11 15:11:33 +0000 UTC

@Brittany R Please delete the first two sentences of the 2nd paragraph in your reply, as it violates our spoiler rules about setting expectations about future seasons. We don't want their view on anything later to be spoiled or hinted at. We do have a discord where you can freely talk about this with the spoiler tags. Thanks! :)

Blackcaiman16

2023-04-11 14:19:26 +0000 UTC

The good parts of S6 are REALLY good, but if i look at the season as a whole I see some 75% of the season really boring and badly written.

Milorad

2023-04-11 12:54:12 +0000 UTC

I would argue the complete opposite. I would say that people who say S6 is great are the ones who didn't pay attention. They only remember the good things, and S6 has some REALLY good moments, but if you look at the season as a whole, i see some 75% of the season really boring and badly written.

Milorad

2023-04-11 12:49:43 +0000 UTC

good call on the valyrian steel spartan!

micah

2023-04-11 10:02:34 +0000 UTC

I guess she was born to be a cunt and didnt have the kind of parents around to teach her otherwise. Also probably didn't help that she grew up in a world where people seem to murder everyone in their way to gain wealth/power. Savagery and ruthlessness are on full display everywhere you look... The way Ned Stark explained to Bran why he killed that man in episode one clearly demonstrated that he tried to instill a good moral compass in his children very early on. Sansa was really a little brat when she was younger but she never showed malice or hostility. I think parenting does matter a lot when it comes to someone's personality, I dont really believe that some people are just destined to be evil. I think it often comes down to bad/no parenting, early bad influence of others and some bad choices.

neutchain

2023-04-11 08:15:33 +0000 UTC

I would say the writing doesn’t take a step down until season 7… 5 and 6 are great

Stryder Garvey

2023-04-11 07:08:56 +0000 UTC

hmm... maybe because they start using less and less book material after season 4. Just a thought.

Alex

2023-04-11 06:58:36 +0000 UTC

@Julien that's why i said ''might''. It's not the only factor but it is a major one. Jaime was just irresponsible. For Tywin, responsibility means becoming like him. Cersei was 7 years old (4 in the show) and had Tywin accusing Tyrion of killing her mom. Do you really think people are just born evil? I don't think that's how it works.

HDN

2023-04-11 05:07:05 +0000 UTC

She also killed a dog for no good reason so she has that on her resume.

Jenny Tolls

2023-04-11 04:39:43 +0000 UTC

Cersei wasn’t “raised by Tywin and without a mother” when she did that monstrous thing to Tyrion. Her mother had been dead for like 2 seconds. And once again, Jaime was in the exact same situation as her. He was the exact same age as her. She is evil (which doesn’t mean she is not complex) and her upbringing or circumstances had nothing to do with it. About the Starks, Jon was raised without a mother and with a stepmother who fucking hated him. C’mon.

Julien

2023-04-11 03:12:44 +0000 UTC

I agree that she's evil, but I don't think the Starks are good simply by nature. If Arya or Sansa were raised by Tywin and without a mother they might have been worse than Cersei. And if Ned raised Cersei she might have been honorable.

HDN

2023-04-11 02:44:57 +0000 UTC

For everyone who thinks Spartan is too hard on Cersei and that she's not that bad, I have two questions: (1) Do you think Ned, Tyrion, Robb, Sansa, Arya, Tommen, Stannis, Robert, Sam, Catelyn, and so many other characters that had a younger sibling would have pinched that siblings cock so hard as to almost rip it off if their mother had died giving birth to him? (Of course, we know the answer to that question FOR A FACT w one character: Jaime). (2) Do you think any of these people at Cersei age would have threatened the witch the way she did? ("If you don't tell me I'll have my father gouge out your eyes"). Can you imagine young Robb or Arya saying that to some random woman in the woods just to get an answer from her? Cersei has been an evil bitch from the earliest moments of her life that the show tells us. The show has been screaming that fact with a megaphone. She's awful. Not because of some prophecy, or whatever happened to her in life. She has always been awful. From day one. That's just her nature. Life didn't make Cersei a horrible person. She was always a horrible person.

Julien

2023-04-11 02:29:11 +0000 UTC

There are many theories about him. One simply says that he had to meet Arya. If you remember, Jaqen says that he doesn't know what Arya will see when she turns right, he only knows she has to take this route. He could have been led by his god to the cage just to meet Arya, without knowing what his mission exactly is.

HDN

2023-04-11 02:13:05 +0000 UTC

It's more about the details. That's the same story we're talking about, so the big arcs are already established and the writers are kind of following them, but they changed the process that lead to the final arcs. And the problems in these seasons lie in those details and developments. GOT was epic for a reason. They used to know how to build up for what's coming, but not in season 5 for instance. Not to mention that they cut out huge arcs that could have been epic. We can't discuss specifics or point out concrete problems due to spoilers. It's very normal to still enjoy it since there are payoff moments that you have been waiting for, and closures being made. But when you have the original books and you know how much better it could have been, that's when you get very mad about what they have done to it. Especially that they butchered rules that were already established. You can't flip a whole character's personality just to get to your desired ending. If you're not asking for much, you won't feel the downfall, but when you talk GOT standards, come on it's nothing like the first seasons. Just an example: Imagine season 1 with this kind of writing, you'd never watch. Those first seasons were so simple yet so complicated. Action and payoff carried season 5, nothing else. Hope this helps you understand why many hate it. Still just an opinion.

HDN

2023-04-11 02:03:11 +0000 UTC

Theory time!!! So ive actually heard a pretty cool theory for why jaqen was locked up, as to its merits - doesn't look plausable at all - but its still fun ig. It goes like this: allegedly, jaqen was in the cage to kill Ned if he was indeed sent to the wall like initially agreed upon. Its been a while since I saw this theory originally, so I dont recall who hired JH, but I thought I'd share since you brought it up! :)

Nana-Afia

2023-04-11 01:34:10 +0000 UTC

remember episode 8! your GOT experience is about level up!

Stannis loves grammar.

2023-04-11 01:08:05 +0000 UTC

buckle up from here on in!

Stannis loves grammar.

2023-04-11 01:06:00 +0000 UTC

Yeah. poor Rodrick. He was so loyal to the starks and to Ned :(

Ghostcat

2023-04-11 00:36:20 +0000 UTC

This episode is one of the best in the series. And Seaso. 5 is great. It just feels a bit slower than previous seasons, but it's great.

Ricky

2023-04-11 00:14:36 +0000 UTC

That wildling woman really stuck out as a great character to me too, I wish that she had had a longer storyline. But as we know, any character can get their shit wrecked at any point in time

Josh Jones

2023-04-10 23:33:34 +0000 UTC

The last half of the show does have a bad reputation (whether it deserves it is up to you when you get there) but this episode is many people's favorite. Also with any story, endings can retroactively change how people feel so I think that may be part of it. The more we learn about Jaqen H'ghar, the less sense it makes that he was imprisoned when Arya first met him.

Munir

2023-04-10 23:11:06 +0000 UTC

So far the known Valyrian steel weapons in the show. Jon has Longclaw, Brienne has OathKeeper, Tommen has Widow Wail which are both from Ned’s sword ice that Tywin was melting down and the Valyrian steel dagger that was used in attempt to kill Bran in the first couple episodes.

Jackson Natoli

2023-04-10 22:43:38 +0000 UTC

Great reaction. Enjoy your Easter break!

Nick Wright

2023-04-10 22:17:17 +0000 UTC

Yes can’t wait for season 6! Don’t know if I’ll be able to rewatch 8 but 6 was still solid imo

Sarah Stapleton

2023-04-10 20:53:49 +0000 UTC

Definitely agree sansa has had the worst fate of the starks, from what we've seen. Unfortunate for her that she has been the ultimate pawn for EVERYBODY in their game for the throne. Even when she thinks she has agency or is doing something by choice, shes not. Only being manipulated by LF to think she does... :( poor girly

Nana-Afia

2023-04-10 20:40:17 +0000 UTC

Knock Knock Someone's at the gate Who is it? Your ancestors.

Colin Poole

2023-04-10 20:31:15 +0000 UTC

To this day, I don’t understand why some people say the show goes down hill after season 4. I do think the “feel” of the show kind of changes when the writers run out of source material, but that doesn’t automatically make it bad. There’s still plenty of great story left. Season 6 is possibly my favorite of the series. Can’t wait for you guys to see it.

Brit’sBiscuits

2023-04-10 19:59:03 +0000 UTC

Haha, I saw this comment and just thought “im not reading that”. Thanks for the laugh when I clicked on the replys and the first thing is “paragraphs are your friends”

Seán

2023-04-10 19:49:48 +0000 UTC

I agree the drag in season 2 is hard to get through when rewatching this. I’m so excited for season 6 also. Absolutely the best tv show.

I❤️movies&tvshows

2023-04-10 19:48:48 +0000 UTC

Yeah that really was a great reaction from Spartan and Pudgey. Just the jumps of joy

Seán

2023-04-10 19:47:08 +0000 UTC

I'm with Spartan. Cersei gets no sympathy, and based on the glimpse we saw of her as a child she's been a vicious, entitled bitch her whole life. I don't care if she supposedly loves her children (debatable; what's she's doing to Margery is crushing Tommen). I enjoy seeing her suffer.

Elizabeth D.

2023-04-10 19:36:44 +0000 UTC

Totally agree!

Daniel

2023-04-10 19:23:29 +0000 UTC

So happy to finally see this one! I had the exact same reaction you guys did. After Hardhome, everything else seems so trivial in comparison. The other feeling I was left with was, “How can they possibly be stopped?” Watching the free folk get slaughtered, only to be raised to fight in the very same army that did the slaughtering… it carries an almost overwhelming sense of doom.

Shay

2023-04-10 19:15:38 +0000 UTC

The showrunners said they initially approached Hardhome as a battle, but at some point realized that it needed to be massacre. So they shifted from a medieval/heroic battle or war mindset to that of a... horror movie. That, is why this episode was so brilliant.

Julien

2023-04-10 19:09:57 +0000 UTC

Glad you're both enjoying the series, it's so fun rewatching with you. The "dip" in quality after season 4 is an interesting convo and lots of people clearly have strong opinions on both sides, but it's not really a conversation we can have here because so much has to do with either changes made from the books or where the story ends up going. As other people commented too, it's still amazing television. I'm 100% with Spartan regarding Cersei! She may be beautiful, she may love her children, but she is evil. Her love for her children is very self serving too, she only "loves" her boys for the power they give her as mother of the king. She has not been a good mother in her actions at all.

kkoe

2023-04-10 19:07:15 +0000 UTC

I think most of the people say season 5-6 are solid. Afterwards is controversial.

Rey Jr

2023-04-10 19:06:35 +0000 UTC

I don't mean to be rude but paragraphs are your friends. You often have some interesting takes (even when I disagree) and I'd love to read them, but blocks of text are difficult to get thru and so extremely off-putting I just don't bother. Just FYI.

Julien

2023-04-10 19:00:31 +0000 UTC

Probably my fav - so far. But there are two ahead that I def prefer. It's interesting that my top 3 episodes should be in latter seasons.

Julien

2023-04-10 18:56:34 +0000 UTC

I definitely feel the change in the show once it departs from pre written material but season 6 is still one of my favorites as so much happens and it’s got probably my two favorite episodes of the entire show in it.

AG

2023-04-10 18:55:52 +0000 UTC

Yeah, I don’t see a real downgrade in writing until season 7.

James Woodford

2023-04-10 18:55:37 +0000 UTC

I was waiting for this episode. Thought you guys were spot on about how it really raises the stakes, gives credence to Jon’s message this season when he’s confronted about his decision to join forces with the wildlings. Spartan’s reaction to Jon destroying that White Walker with longclaw was great btw lol

James Woodford

2023-04-10 18:53:19 +0000 UTC

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SuddenImpulse

2023-04-10 18:50:32 +0000 UTC

To clarify, the scene with Arya did actually happen, it's not a story they were making up. It's an actual mission she went on and she was reporting back to the kindly man (Jaqen). You're right about her training though, she has to learn to become someone else before she can become No One.

Mzuka

2023-04-10 18:50:01 +0000 UTC

This is my favourite episode. #1 of top 3. Lol

Betty Alice

2023-04-10 18:38:50 +0000 UTC

Just going to point out how after the Red Wedding you guys felt like you had no more Starks left to care about and now all the ones left have the most intriguing storylines! 🐺

♆

2023-04-10 18:37:41 +0000 UTC

I hope this doesn't get deleted but this is directed to the people who say there is a dip because I can tell Spartan and Pudgey have that in the back of there mind when reacting to the show but season 6 is the single greatest season of television in any show ever, like are we even watching the same show? lol take into context how long things took to even get off the ground in the first couple of seasons. Season 3 flipped the entire show on it's head and season 4 is when main plot FINALLY started to take shape. So yeah, not sure what people are talking about

Demo

2023-04-10 18:23:07 +0000 UTC

Season 5 has some issues but is still really strong in my opinion! Can’t wait for the rest :)

Gummybear

2023-04-10 18:15:37 +0000 UTC

Plenty of ppl payed very close attention when viewing the series and had valid issues with the remaining seasons. that’s not a fair conclusion to draw.

Gummybear

2023-04-10 18:13:29 +0000 UTC

I just see a few cracks and I don't agree with certain story choices they made

Tayyib Majumder

2023-04-10 17:56:21 +0000 UTC

you called it

Sebastian Schon

2023-04-10 17:53:07 +0000 UTC

And now, finally, Jon sees the kind of war he's TRULY fighting...

Sarah

2023-04-10 17:42:31 +0000 UTC

Idk why people say the show has a dip after season 4. Season3 and 4 is when it starts in my opinion lol

Demo

2023-04-10 17:38:28 +0000 UTC

I think people who say negative things about this or some other season forget a) to look at the overall season, and remember individual things they consider negatives (which would tip the scale if they wouldn't change a thing from previous seasons), and b) to measure the so-called weak season against other television series in general (so they might say they don't like season x of GoT but forget to mention that it's still one if not the best series television had to offer at the time, which of course would put things into better perspective). Plus they have the luxury of personal preference in hindsight, so there's that too. So like you've said before, try to clear your head about what people have said before about this or some other season: it's all invalid because they are speaking as someone who has a different perspective AND - most importantly - they are speaking as someone who didn't pay as much attention to the show on the first run as you are, since you are actually doing this as your job and we are observing you, whereas the rest of us just watched it casually, so you have a keener eye automatically (which means you are bound to notice way more things on this first run and appreciate way more narrative things this show has done than casual viewers). Thanks again for a great reaction!

S.

2023-04-10 17:27:24 +0000 UTC

You guys mentioned those same skeleton people came after Bran when he got to the cave. Those are the same people in this episode. Remember Bran is north of the wall now. The white walkers were taking Crasters babies too. The army of the dead are soldiers. Then there are white walkers that are like generals. Then the man who raised his hands and raised the dead he is called the Night King. If you remember when Jamie returned to kings landing after losing his hand, that is when Tywin melted down Ned’s Valyrian steel sword. It was a huge sword which he made two of one for Jamie and one for Joffrey. Tywin told Jamie that there were only 3 people left in the world that could forge Valyrian steel. Tywin had brought over one of them from Volantis to make the swords. We know Brienne has Oathkeeper now that Jamie gave her. Per a discussion on another episode of yours we know Jamie has Joffreys sword. Valyria is where Danerys’ family is from and there are only 3 people originally from there that know how to forge it.

I❤️movies&tvshows

2023-04-10 17:18:06 +0000 UTC

I do like that they're thinking more into Cersei's character. She's such a wonderfully complex individual in my opinion that has a lot more too her than Ramsay and Joffrey.

Lola

2023-04-10 17:14:42 +0000 UTC

Top 3 episode...and with GOT that is saying a lot

Terry Maturo

2023-04-10 17:08:20 +0000 UTC

Expecting a midweek release. So happy to see this today. Thank you!

I❤️movies&tvshows

2023-04-10 17:02:58 +0000 UTC

That moment when the White Walker and Jon look at each other when Jon's sword blocks the spear, epic!

James K

2023-04-10 17:01:57 +0000 UTC

im literally a moron

Peyton R

2023-04-10 16:56:54 +0000 UTC

Season 6 is my favorite. Partially because it's the first season beyond the books.

Kimberly Cunningham

2023-04-10 16:50:29 +0000 UTC

Hardhome! Hell yeah! Badass episode!

Louis Melendez

2023-04-10 16:49:54 +0000 UTC

Don't listen to the naysayers. Enjoy it.

Kimberly Cunningham

2023-04-10 16:48:35 +0000 UTC

yall should slide dat avatar reaction 👀

Peyton R

2023-04-10 16:01:57 +0000 UTC

Valyrian steel is much more scarce and has more properties than dragonglass. Dragonglass is just obsidian

Adrian Neagoe

2023-04-10 15:58:18 +0000 UTC

Weird to think people don't like it after season 4. Because season 6 is my favorite and that season is so close now. Can't wait for you to see it.

Slow Shadow

2023-04-10 15:55:41 +0000 UTC

Fun fact! The massacre at Hardhome isn't in the books. Well, it is, but it's only referenced. The showrunners did a fantastic job including it in the show for the show's sake.

Chris Aguilar

2023-04-10 15:48:33 +0000 UTC

I loved Pudgey's and Spartan's gasps as white walkers attacked lmao so funny, you were both just sitting there with your jaws on the floor. Anyway, glad you were so impressed with this episode, it's in my top 3 episodes of the series

Anna J

2023-04-10 15:48:06 +0000 UTC

Tbf even if Theon didn’t kill her brothers it is still hard to forgive him for Sansa. He betrayed her family, killed Rodrick and did some horrible stuff.

Rey Jr

2023-04-10 15:38:38 +0000 UTC

This one’s probably one of my personal favourite episodes of the series

Franky E

2023-04-10 15:34:34 +0000 UTC

YES FINALLY!!! I haven’t been started the vid yet but I can already hear “Jon is a weapon” 😂

NeneSays

2023-04-10 15:22:21 +0000 UTC

Thank god this arrived. Thought I was gonna have to wait a couple more days

Sean van Hengel

2023-04-10 15:17:45 +0000 UTC

AHHH YES HARDHOME IS HERE

Jonny Rey

2023-04-10 15:11:38 +0000 UTC

Finally!!!!!😍😍😍😍 I love you guys ❤️

Fran Navarro

2023-04-10 15:01:45 +0000 UTC

Game of Thrones 5x8 Reaction & Review

Comments

The sparrow(the leader of the faith militant) became the high septon due to Cersei empowering him and imprisoning the original high septon

#8 in my top 10 GOT episodes. Hardhome is GOT at it's best.

It did happen in the books, but it was just a mentioned line in a sentence or something like that.

I disagree too. I think maybe you can’t know whats wrong with season 5 until you see the whole thing. But there is a lot wrong with season 5.

Very well said

Exactly!

Complete. She's evil in actions and in her heart. She is incapable of any empathy toward humans who aren't her parents, her brother or their kids. Had Joffrey survived, she would happily have watched her sadist son torture innocent person after innocent person without losing a wink of sleep.

I agree with you Pudgey, I already loved the mother/chief wildling. She really had a lot of charisma and wisdom, but of course it's GoT so the best ones gotta leave first :(((

Isn't it fascinating that Margeary after a few days (weeks) of imprisonment (and her brother's imprisonment) still held up her façade and composure, but Cersei cracked in very little time.

I can’t wait for the last 2 episodes of season 5 to come out! It’s only been a week but it feels like it’s been longer lol

cap

The lady who was torn apart by Wight kids? Her name was KARSI of the Frozen Shore people, who ride chariots made of walrus bones pulled by packs of dogs.

Very well said!

Loved that! Even we who watched it the first time as it aired were spoiled when they aired trailers for Hardhome. Spartan and Pudgey’s reactions were so genuine.

nah 6 is decent, 7 is where the shit hits the fan

same, season 6 has 2 of the best episodes of the entire show, so can't wait!

and it's not even a single right. 2 innocent boys were still killed.

the best line of the reaction. he's got balls that thenn! This episode is one of my favorites because it comes out of nowhere with the action!

I completely disagree, it's gradually get worse after this season.

hold on, the hardhome battle never happened in the books no? so it is bullshit fro the showrunners.

Is it not wonderful how we are all individuals with out own opinions and perspectives? :) To be fair I think alot of people that have actually read the book in general dislike the later seasons more than the people who haven't

I agree but I also get people not enjoying the season. A long as Spartan and Pudgey enjoys it I am glad for them

it has alot of epic moments, awesome visuals etc but everything else is not feelingn right to many people including me for reasons I cannot mention now. Not to judge anyone, the fact that Spartan and Pudgey enjoy it is all that matters to me now.

yup. I would not have to be honest. Rights does not make wrongs undone

I disagree, this is when they ran out of book material. The season has alot of great moments, the battle at hardhome especially, it is not that at all. I cannot put my finger on it directly without spoiling anything. But I get it.

One of the best episodes this season.

I think people are just too critical. I think Season 5 was a good season. I think it's just mob mentality for everyone to hate on this season. Seasons 1-4 are a masterpiece because of how well all the stories intertwine with each other but I think this is a solid season.

Isn't this setting expectations? You do this on almost every reaction posted

This comment was in response to Spartan saying something about not understanding why some didn't like past season 4 so I didn't think I said anything they weren't already aware of.

I celebrate that you like Jon even more than Robb now. The big question now is, will you ever love Tormund (the new “barbarian”) more than Khal Drogo?

Delete this comment. You’re setting up expectations for the future.

It is a spoiler. You're talking about something that could happen but saying it's not in the show, which means it won't happen, etc. Hard to explain. But this explanation and the fact that it's omitted from the show, points S&P away from certain possibilities. Not sure how else to explain this.

Don’t forget she’d rather feed the dogs the wedding feast leftovers than allow that food to go to starving people in her city. That’s some Ramsey level cruelty right there.

Sorry I was trying to not be spoilery. I deleted it.

The good parts of S6 are REALLY good, but if i look at the season as a whole I see some 75% of the season really boring and badly written.

I would argue the complete opposite. I would say that people who say S6 is great are the ones who didn't pay attention. They only remember the good things, and S6 has some REALLY good moments, but if you look at the season as a whole, i see some 75% of the season really boring and badly written.

good call on the valyrian steel spartan!

I would say the writing doesn’t take a step down until season 7… 5 and 6 are great

hmm... maybe because they start using less and less book material after season 4. Just a thought.

She also killed a dog for no good reason so she has that on her resume.

I agree that she's evil, but I don't think the Starks are good simply by nature. If Arya or Sansa were raised by Tywin and without a mother they might have been worse than Cersei. And if Ned raised Cersei she might have been honorable.

remember episode 8! your GOT experience is about level up!

buckle up from here on in!

Yeah. poor Rodrick. He was so loyal to the starks and to Ned :(

This episode is one of the best in the series. And Seaso. 5 is great. It just feels a bit slower than previous seasons, but it's great.

That wildling woman really stuck out as a great character to me too, I wish that she had had a longer storyline. But as we know, any character can get their shit wrecked at any point in time

So far the known Valyrian steel weapons in the show. Jon has Longclaw, Brienne has OathKeeper, Tommen has Widow Wail which are both from Ned’s sword ice that Tywin was melting down and the Valyrian steel dagger that was used in attempt to kill Bran in the first couple episodes.

Great reaction. Enjoy your Easter break!

Yes can’t wait for season 6! Don’t know if I’ll be able to rewatch 8 but 6 was still solid imo

*Knock Knock* Someone's at the gate Who is it? Your ancestors.

Haha, I saw this comment and just thought “im not reading that”. Thanks for the laugh when I clicked on the replys and the first thing is “paragraphs are your friends”

I agree the drag in season 2 is hard to get through when rewatching this. I’m so excited for season 6 also. Absolutely the best tv show.

Yeah that really was a great reaction from Spartan and Pudgey. Just the jumps of joy

I'm with Spartan. Cersei gets no sympathy, and based on the glimpse we saw of her as a child she's been a vicious, entitled bitch her whole life. I don't care if she supposedly loves her children (debatable; what's she's doing to Margery is crushing Tommen). I enjoy seeing her suffer.

Totally agree!

The showrunners said they initially approached Hardhome as a battle, but at some point realized that it needed to be *massacre.* So they shifted from a medieval/heroic battle or war mindset to that of a... *horror* movie. That, is why this episode was so brilliant.

I think most of the people say season 5-6 are solid. Afterwards is controversial.

I don't mean to be rude but paragraphs are your friends. You often have some interesting takes (even when I disagree) and I'd love to read them, but blocks of text are difficult to get thru and so extremely off-putting I just don't bother. Just FYI.

Probably my fav - so far. But there are two ahead that I def prefer. It's interesting that my top 3 episodes should be in latter seasons.

I definitely feel the change in the show once it departs from pre written material but season 6 is still one of my favorites as so much happens and it’s got probably my two favorite episodes of the entire show in it.

Yeah, I don’t see a real downgrade in writing until season 7.

To clarify, the scene with Arya did actually happen, it's not a story they were making up. It's an actual mission she went on and she was reporting back to the kindly man (Jaqen). You're right about her training though, she has to learn to become someone else before she can become No One.

This is my favourite episode. #1 of top 3. Lol

Just going to point out how after the Red Wedding you guys felt like you had no more Starks left to care about and now all the ones left have the most intriguing storylines! 🐺

Season 5 has some issues but is still really strong in my opinion! Can’t wait for the rest :)

Plenty of ppl payed very close attention when viewing the series and had valid issues with the remaining seasons. that’s not a fair conclusion to draw.

I just see a few cracks and I don't agree with certain story choices they made

you called it

And now, finally, Jon sees the kind of war he's TRULY fighting...

Idk why people say the show has a dip after season 4. Season3 and 4 is when it starts in my opinion lol

I do like that they're thinking more into Cersei's character. She's such a wonderfully complex individual in my opinion that has a lot more too her than Ramsay and Joffrey.

Top 3 episode...and with GOT that is saying a lot

Expecting a midweek release. So happy to see this today. Thank you!

That moment when the White Walker and Jon look at each other when Jon's sword blocks the spear, epic!

im literally a moron

Season 6 is my favorite. Partially because it's the first season beyond the books.

Hardhome! Hell yeah! Badass episode!

Don't listen to the naysayers. Enjoy it.

Knock Knock Someone's at the gate Who is it? Your ancestors.

The showrunners said they initially approached Hardhome as a battle, but at some point realized that it needed to be massacre. So they shifted from a medieval/heroic battle or war mindset to that of a... horror movie. That, is why this episode was so brilliant.