Thinking about things...
Added 2017-08-31 17:20:08 +0000 UTCI've had this on my mind for the last month or so. I don't really know how much longer I can keep this going here. I haven't been satisfied with the amount or quality of art I've been producing, and I don't really think it fair to keep asking for support from the many generous people who have stuck around when I'm either only able to put out quick sketches or maybe one finished quality piece a month.
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There have been some great ideas in the suggestion threads over the last months that I just never get around to, or ideas that might be fun but they are so niche to that one person's interests, or so complex that I can't do them. I feel like I'm never going to be able to get something to everyone and it eats away at me a little more every month.
The raffle streams, while fun, I think are only causing people to get upset because month after month they show up and get nothing. With not being able to stream right now and having had to miss one, the thought of continuing to no be able to give you guys what you are owed makes me feel like a piece of crap.
I generally have issues enjoying things I do anyways, but I spend so much energy worrying about what I am and am not doing for people here that everything I do outside of art is suffering. I've destroyed a 10 year long friendship because I'm too tired to give anything back to it if I even really knew what to do.
I wish this wasn't happening at the end of the month with billing happening soon, if not already. I'm going to give it a week, see if my thoughts change, and if I still feel the same I am probably going to refund you guys for September and shut this down.
It's been great having you around, and the new friends that have joined the stream chat communities have been cool to get to know.
I'm sorry,
Rab.
Comments
You need to do what you think is best. I'm one of the many silent followers who just enjoy the content as it comes. I've never considered your Patreon a place to demand any products or rewards. I found it a convenient way to support an artist whose work I really enjoy, and I'd gladly continue to do so.
Mike U
2017-09-01 03:42:32 +0000 UTCPatreon is not a store, and I've never felt like you've under-delivered. I'll continue to support you even on the off months.
Greggoro
2017-09-01 02:59:18 +0000 UTCRab you need to do what you feel is right in your heart and head. You won't lose me as a follower of your art if you get rid of Patreon. I stalked you before and I will do so after. Do what you feel is rigtht for you Rab that isn't going to cause you this undo stress on your Real Life and your art
maninblack
2017-09-01 01:08:51 +0000 UTCI really love your works and I've never felt disappointment. I pay because your works make my life happier. I can't thank you enough. Please taking care of yourself and I completely support whatever decision you will make.
ak
2017-09-01 00:11:31 +0000 UTCAnyway, I don't want you getting fried. Mental health is important to take care of, and you have plenty of patrons who donate and ask for nothing in return. I'd still be happy to send $5 every month because you are such an influence on me.
GindyDraws
2017-08-31 22:56:32 +0000 UTCThat's the problem with raffles. People get disappointed. I got irritated, but that's the way the cookies crumble. It's going to happen, no matter what you do. Plus you did streams that were 10+ hours. I honestly don't think you had to do all that.
GindyDraws
2017-08-31 22:54:06 +0000 UTCWe love you Rab, but you do you, and we'll support how we can.
NoFate301
2017-08-31 22:19:50 +0000 UTCBoo. :( I understand how you feel, and given those feelings it seems like a break might be in order. But you shouldn't feel guilty about it. Honestly, value-for-money wise you're one of the best artists on Patreon, and I say that despite never having won one of the raffles. I've still really enjoyed your streams, just for the community and the chance to see the art being made. If you are going to suspend this one, it will be a shame to lose that community - I don't know, maybe you could set up a discord channel or something. But like everyone else says, you've got to do what's right for you. Put your own life first, and then decide your other priorities. We can wait.
Amyphist
2017-08-31 22:05:52 +0000 UTCI'd hope that you pause for a month or so and see how you feel. I've dug your art on DA for years and this was a great chance (chance, mind you, not guarantee) to possibly get a sketch and support you at the same time. I've enjoyed it, and it sucks that this is stressing you out.
furofletters
2017-08-31 20:57:02 +0000 UTCAfter reading what wossa said. I can just say that I would support this way. Your mental health is way more worth than the raffles and suggestions.
2017-08-31 20:54:40 +0000 UTCi will say i have felt the quality you have been giving us is well worth every penny i pay
BiOzZ's Useless Patreon
2017-08-31 20:31:52 +0000 UTCLike others have stated, I'm fine with you getting rid of raffle streams
Baavy
2017-08-31 19:36:49 +0000 UTCYou do what's best for you. Whatever happens, I'll keep following your endeavors
Baavy
2017-08-31 19:34:26 +0000 UTCeverything Ive wanted to say has already been said. regardless of what you decide to do, i will continue to support you. taking care of yourself is most important.
Shio
2017-08-31 19:31:26 +0000 UTCEven if you were to remove all of the rewards like rafflestreams and suggestion threads, I would still be perfectly happy to throw some money purely as a tip jar - that is still the term used on your page's main description, so I've never felt like I was buying a product and entitled to specific content in return. I'm looking at the numbers: a rafflestream gets around 30 people in it, right? And a suggestion thread gets 50ish comments? You have over 150 patrons, so only 1/5 are attending the streams, and 1/3 making suggestions. There are still at least another 100 people who are content to quietly let the art roll in, raffles/suggestions or not, and since you didn't mess about with setting multiple tiers, their pledge is a simple in-or-out (and at a low price to boot). So if they were upset with your picture output or the internet troubles that are out of your control anyway, then it would be reflected in the patron figures. So, yeah, I think calling off the rafflestreams and suggestion threads will do your mental health a lot of good so I totally support that plan, but it would be nice for the patreon itself to stay active for those who would still like to monetarily thank you simply for liking what you like, and sharing that with us at your own pace – Ah, and just as I go to post this after typing it up in Word, it looks like Vostok took the words out of my mouth anyway. :p Of course, bottom line is, you do you. Like Eukie said, I don't mean to guilt you into sticking with something that's making you unhappy!
Wossa
2017-08-31 19:16:13 +0000 UTCHonestly I'd rather you do what's best for you and your mind... I somewhat feel your pain at the moment in regards to the art output. I was also starting to gear up any raffle suggestions too towards more your liking too, considering how busy you seem.
Speedy08
2017-08-31 18:37:38 +0000 UTCI can only speak for myself, but I support you and other artists via Patreon because I like what someone does and I want them to be able to do it. I don't contribute to Patreon because I feel I'm owed something, or that I'm paying for a product. You're doing what you're doing and I'm still here. You're honestly one of the most active artists that I follow here. I always genuinely look forward to the monthly packs, and I love the stream doodles, even though I've never made it to a stream. No one else does quite what you do. Ultimately, it's your decision, and I think most everyone will respect that. I hope you stay, but you have to do what makes you comfortable and (hopefully) happy.
Vostok3
2017-08-31 18:22:07 +0000 UTCI tried to write something to encourage you to keep going, but then I read through what you'd written and realized I was being kind of insincere and egoistical. Your main focus should be taking care of yourself. I might want to see you draw more because your stuff is amazing, but that's about me, not you. If you stop doing these streams to take care of yourself, I'll be happy because it means that one of my friends is taking care of themselves. Please do what is best for you and please take care of yourself. I hope we can stay in touch. ^_^
Eukie
2017-08-31 18:08:50 +0000 UTCThat sucks to hear since I just joined here a month ago, but if that is how you feel it is the best way to continue then I support you.
DarthRevan
2017-08-31 18:03:06 +0000 UTCRabberz, sorry to hear of the distress. As to refunding subscriptions, you don't need to worry about mine at this point - you have my support, regardless of how you decide to approach it. I enjoy looking forward to that end-of-month folder that pops up in my mailbox - if it's thinner than it used to be, I'm perfectly OK with that. The point of Patreon was to fuel your artwork, not to make it into a huge debacle that cost you personally. The Saturday raffles were great, but if it's kicking your ass, I'm all for you pulling back on that, It's not like you're charging $50 a month for this -- at $5, we're robbing /you/!
Briqabraq
2017-08-31 17:43:30 +0000 UTC