Vinland Saga Unedited S1 Ep 18 - "He's a berzerker whisperer" - Shelly
Added 2025-07-02 20:00:00 +0000 UTCComments
Apologies in advance for my “long winded” thoughts in regards to the use of discrimination: I want to note that while I understand what the priest is getting at, I ultimately disagree with what he is saying. What the priest is referring to is called agape which is “selfless, sacrificial, and unconditional love”. Key word for this scene being “unconditional”. The priest is suggesting that due to Ragnar’s treatment of others, his “love” for Canute must therefore be conditional (the conditions being proximity, he is Canute’s teacher, and also status, Canute is royalty). If Canute were just a random peasant in a village, let’s say the village where they killed everyone, do you think Ragnar would have stood in the way and tried to save Canute? So I think it’s fairly simple to say that Ragnar’s love is clearly not agape. The priest sees this, along with all the actions that have been taking place, and asserts that Ragnar’s love is therefore “discrimination”. He sees the disparity in treatment and measures that against agape love, which I guess he believes is the only true form of love. With “love” being off the table due to Ragnar’s actions towards others, all the priest can really do to describe Ragnar’s actions towards Canute is to look at the disparity previously mentioned and define that. And we’re left with discrimination. Personally, I think his views are extremely pessimistic, lack understanding of how Christianity defines love (I believe they define four types of love in the Bible), and doesn’t account for “intention” (but that level of Christian philosophy doesn’t come till shortly after this time period via Thomas Aquinas). Also, I think the priest idolizes himself but this is already too long. The way I like to visualize: imagine you see a health bar above everyone’s heads. Your family, your friends, your enemies, strangers, etc. But instead of representing health, it shows how much you love that person (a bar that’s completely filled would be akin to agape love). Without extending this any further, I think the goal should be to fill up every (EVERY) bar you see to the best of your ability. So Ragnar’s love of Canute was good and he needed to go out into the world and try to replicate that love. That would not be the case with “discrimination” Edit:I think the priest is incredibly well written and given the time period and ideas that existed during this time, his views are extremely accurate to how someone in his position would have thought.
Bill
2025-07-06 17:10:41 +0000 UTCMy favourite episode apart from the final few. Priests speech was so real, this episode really woke the community to the general beauty of the script and story for vinland skyrocketing it to the top
Zephyrs
2025-07-04 12:37:37 +0000 UTCThey try to play off Ragnar's visit in Canute's dream as a simple memory of him, but if you noticed, Ragnar has the same wound as he did when he died. However, Canute never got to see Ragnar's corspe, nor did he know the details of his murder. He doesn't have this memory of this wound, but Ragnar appeared in his dream with it anyways, meaning this isn't the memory of the old man, but the actual apparition or spirit of Ragnar himself rather.
M1 Abram
2025-06-27 02:01:12 +0000 UTC"Discrimination" is an odd word for love but it makes sense. Choosing to love only those you want to implies discrimination. Jesus Christ died for everybody including those who persecuted and humiliated him. This episode said that "death perfects" a human. However, Jesus was perfect (sinless) and thus didn't deserve death. But he chose to anyways out of indiscriminate love for everybody.
GreenBeamer
2025-06-26 01:34:57 +0000 UTC
