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Gratitude essay: the Car Seat fanbase

I used to write in darkness. “Trapped!”, an old song from the Nervous Young Men era, sums up my typical state of mind during high school, or maybe the whole album it’s on does. Life felt like a series of looming deadlines and fatal pronouncements; the air felt like a tangle of toxic forces I couldn’t understand. Anxiety, insecurity, and physical discomfort combined to create an overwhelming feeling of loneliness. I had friends, family, but these negative forces felt too big to talk about, unable to be defeated or related to. So I wrote to an imaginary audience, sharing with friends when they wanted to listen, but mostly not sharing it at all. I did find some comfort in the darkness, some recognition, in the albums I found at Hot Topic or squirreled away in my sister’s CD wallet, bands like Green Day and Nine Inch Nails who seemed to write in that same isolation, seemed to be able to truly communicate it through song. I participated in this tradition, because it seemed like the only outlet I had available. 

Though I remained in darkness, people did hear me. My friends continue to collaborate with me and listen to my music. I came to college, and dropped off handmade copies of the numbered CSH albums in the college radio station’s PO Box. Soon the station director sought me out, and became my friend, bandmate and roommate. Strangers online started sharing my music on 4chan. When my hard drive failed weeks before I was set to finish Nervous Young Man, fans were able to provide me with files they’d ripped from WIPs of the album to help complete it. And suddenly I was on the other side of it, making music to a real audience, who were not only listening to it but relating to it, seeing their own isolation reflected and lessened in the music. 

Throughout this process, I was, to be honest, prickly as hell and unreceptive to more or less all of it. I looked at the problems rather than the benefits. I saw that more listeners didn’t heal the basic pains of life, or take away the darkness. Was it supposed to? I did have flashes of healing, moments in life where it felt like I’d been able to clamber up another step towards whatever life was supposed to be. But it felt unrelated to my career. Once our work with Matador started, life became a roller-coaster of press, recording, and touring, at a speed and relentlessness that took me to some of my darkest places yet.

Eventually, things shifted. The pandemic hit, then my own round with disabling illness. More willing now to be patient and gentle, I used this forum of Patreon to enter with the band back into the public world. And as the chaos of preceding years settled, I saw the intense, enduring love that had been given to me by all of you. A love of listening, of sending well-wishes when I had to cancel concerts for my illness, of sharing, archiving, participating in our music. When I want to look at a piece of music I recorded in high school, I can safely assume someone’s already uploaded it to youtube. When I post an essay here, I get back thoughtful, heartfelt responses every time. When I drop a PO Box address, I get wonderful mail and art sent to me. 

I’m so grateful for this. As I wrote at the start of the month, gratitude is hard for me to express, sitting as it does alongside dread, doom and despair. The darkness hasn’t gone away, but my vision of it is widening. Now, it seems like the backdrop to a great sea of lights, each one vivid and distinct in contrast. I would not have seen the lights, known their beauty and power, if I did not know the darkness. I’m honored that all of you have shared your light with me, and I hope I can share likewise for many years to come.

Comments

i have been listening to your music since i was in high school and i was feeling very similarly about my own art. i still feel that way sometimes, but this is a reminder of how important it is to share your art. you never know how much it could heal other people, or even allow them an outlet to be seen. listening to your music and reading your lyrics was the first time i felt truly understood. it’s simply part of the human experience and it brings us together. without the darkness we could never see the true value of the light 🤍

sofia bartolone

also i can say the exact same thing about hey space cade that endstoppedline said

Slumox Gd

Im sorry im here to give a less thoughtful. Less heartfelt response. But it reminded me, he know saw the light he has never seen before on beast monster thing

Slumox Gd

This and all of these essays have been incredibly insightful and have helped me have hope. I have felt so much darkness and loneliness- I basically spent a year in a hospital bed not speaking and barely moving for no physical reasons, not even Catatonia, just out of self-hatred and depression. I forgot about the stars. I didn’t remember them until a year and a quarter, when I was on a walk at night. Throughout all of it I felt like all I had was the characters in CSH songs, the persona of their inhabitants. I found that the lyrics of the songs were things I wanted to say but couldn’t put into words. Every time I tried to end my life, I would wait to play one last Car Seat Headrest song, just one last good moment in such a terrible experience. Now I listen to them without the pretext of death. Though I am still suicidal they can help get me through the day once again. Car Seat Headrest has saved my life numerous times. Thank you so much. However, I have always wanted to send a letter to thank you (guys). I attempted to send an email to your manager inquiring if that was okay, but never got anything back. Do you have a current PO Box to drop?

Darren B

This is beautiful!! Your music has helped me tremendously getting through the hardest points of my life, I look to you for inspiration and you help me keep pushing myself and keep going when shit gets tough. Your music Is amazing and so are you, thank you Will, we love you❤️

Gonty

❤️🎸🐾

marlowe green

I really can't understate how much I appreciate the strength it takes to put yourself in these open and vulnerable positions. Personally I've taken away so much from the music and surrounding CSH stuff that my outlook on life is a little different now (for the better!). Also I find that some of the old posts on Tumblr are really great for aspiring musicians, or just fans to look at because it really shows how you found and managed "fame" during an era of the internet.

very.happy.ben

Grateful for you Will and the whole Car seat band. light reflects and shows us the dark things, the dark illuminated now showers light down upon others. You are a point of light, sometimes illuminated sometimes in shadow, always alive.

Musical dance

that’s so wonderful to hear - always excited to see what you will all do with the space. gosh, that’s epic… writing for yourself is such a wonderful gift, especially with a big audience, maybe? creative patience, too, which you touched on in another essay. there is so much I want to ask about you & the band’s processes! the public eye sounds more or less monstrous, tbh, I would completely respect wanting to maintain total inconspicuousness…

Luka Buchanan

Sure! It's Will Barnes, P.O. Box 366, Medina, WA 98039

Car Seat

Thanks Luka, and rest assured that the Patreon grounds does feel "safe" for us, thanks to the tone you've helped set. I would say in comparison to prior times, I'm not too prickly about audience things, but I've also had the late advantage of being outside of the public eye other than Patreon. I would like to work towards being at ease in more high-profile situations like promoting an album or playing a show. I still write music without thinking much about specific audiences, just worrying about what sounds good to me. I mostly just write slower now, so I have more time to filter out stuff that doesn't age well.

Car Seat

this was so beautifully expressed. when i first heard hey space cadet around 10 years ago it was the first time i had felt seen in a profound way within my own darkness. your music has resonated with me deeply since then and i feel so lucky to have grown alongside it. grateful for you today 💖

endstoppedline

through my own darkness in life your music has been a light for me as long as ive heard it, since i first started analyzing your lyrics and getting your melodies stuck in my head i felt genuinely seen by someone, in a way nobody else sees me. although i dont even know you as a person, your music seems to know me better than some of my closest friends. thank you so much for what youve created.

Mikey m

I’m extremely grateful for the music you’ve shared with the world. Your music has brought together thousands of people, connecting them with this alluring concept of darkness, isolation, and raw emotion. If I ever see someone wearing CSH merch or with a tattoo (like me), I immediately know I want to be their friend, because I know enough about them through knowing your music. I met my boyfriend at an SAT center because he was wearing a twin fantasy hoodie, and now, we’re going to college together. I wouldn’t have the best person in my life if it wasn’t for your music, and for that and so much more, I am immensely grateful for you, your band, and this community ❤️

Finn

idk why i’m crying in the club rn

fruitybinch666

The first time I heard your music, it connected with me so much. CSH quickly became one of my all time favorite bands. When you played at the Great American Music Hall and the Fillmore in San Francisco, I wished I could go, but felt too self-conscious about it, because I'm at least a couple decades older than anyone in the band and thought it would be too weird as a middle-aged lady to be in an audience that would probably be mostly full of 20-somethings. The pandemic taught me that life is uncertain, and to cherish things while you still have the chance. So if you play here again in the future, I'll be there. Proudly.

Sue Trowbridge

I’m very grateful for your music Will. During times of extreme dark and positive periods, CSH is always there to support me. If it was me just listening to songs on repeat, expressing my love for the work with friends, showing my crush an album, or now where I have some amazing friends I met through this fandom that I wouldn’t trade for the world. CSH has always been in my life when I needed it, and I wouldn’t trade the memories for anything. I’m grateful that listening to this music helped shape who I am currently, someone who I’m proud of 🤍

Jordan

For a long time I felt too nervous to make my own music, like it just wasn't good enough and that nobody would care. Finding your early music helped push me to really try and write stuff, because I saw how you put your music out there and even though it was rough around the edges, it was still beloved by many, and keeping at it meant you only got better and better. Being on this patreon and getting to see all of your musings, the archives, and music streams, has been so much fun, and I'm always grateful for you guys answering questions and sharing your thoughts. Here's to many more years of music-making and sharing the light ahead!

MaeveDX

Thank you so much for sharing your art, it has changed my life and the way I understand myself and that's probably the case for so many others here. You've grown so much from those first few demos, and I'm privileged to be able to witness an incredible artistic journey.

Sunrising Sunsetting

You're so awesome!!! Hope u have an amazing day!!!

Liam Gonzalez

Thank you so much for sharing your journey and experiences with us Will. It fills me with a lot of hope to see how far you’ve come and where you are now, as I’ve had similar experiences and feelings as the ones you’ve written and sung about, and knowing that you’ve gotten to the point you’re at reassures me that I can too. I often come back and reread your Patreon entries whenever I feel lost in life, and it never fails to boost my spirits and help me find myself again.

wyatt mccarty

"The darkness hasn’t gone away, but my vision of it is widening." I never really knew how to describe how I can feel better while still having those same feelings, but this is such a great description. There is something very special about this community, I love that there are so many heartfelt comments with people sharing their own experiences and problems. If there is anything Car Seat Headrest music has taught me, its that opening up to other people, and being vulnerable, should never be considered a weakness. I believe its one of the greatest strengths a human can have.

Cooper

Your difficulty in expressing gratitude hardly shows. The ways in which you show up, create, and have created a third space for so many people speak for you and show that you recognize our appreciation. You’ve probably had a million people tell you this by now, but your work is so important because you’ve bared your soul through it and we can all see fragments of ourselves within it. You tell us how it feels and we tell you that we know; this is how we show up for each other and how we get through life. This is how we’re human. I’m here because I didn’t expect to feel any connection to your body of work, but I did, and when I realized why, my life changed a lot (I’m a guy now and this has been confusing for everyone involved). I’m grateful for change, the light and the darkness that it brings. As you said, we wouldn’t know the light if we hadn’t seen the darkness. Why not be grateful for all of it? I personally like I believe that there’s something to learn from all of the suffering we endure; the only way out is through, and when we get through we may not be left with anything tangible but we’ve certainly got more wisdom to share. Thanks for sharing yours. Never quit…. til you’re real old

Human Cigarette

i will always be thankful for you, will, and the way you have shared this part of yourself to the world. my wife and i both suffer from mcas (which is like histamine intolerance) among other disabling illnesses and hearing that you’re struggling with similar issues just fills me with so many different emotions. solidarity, sadness, grief, understanding… your music, too, has filled me with so many emotions over the 10 years that i’ve been a cshr fan. from my junior year of high school when i first heard famous prophets (minds) and cried on my bedroom floor, to the joy of driving around in my car with my friends senior year and belting out songs from teens of style, to the awe that same year going to your portland concert and meeting you and having you sign my twin fantasy shirt with black lipstick (i didn’t have sharpie!), to being freshly dropped out of college and being overwhelmed with joy and nostalgia at the announcement of twin fantasy being redone, to being in the midst of the pandemic and hearing deadlines (thoughtful) for the first time and once more crying on my bedroom floor. so many different emotions over the years!!! and the emotion i feel strongest for you and your art is gratitude. thank you for sharing these parts of yourself to your audience. always grateful to be a part of that audience. car seat headrest has accompanied and continues to accompany me through such periods of intense growth. 🩷

Elliott

Thank you for sharing this, never have I felt more connected to music until I found car seat. I appreciate all that you and the band do to stay connected to your fans! You’ve cultivated a wonderful and accepting community of creatives who are endlessly inspired by you guys. Have a nice thanksgiving , Will, and all the other awesome folks on here :) !

worm

Today (and every day) I am thankful for all the music that you and your collaborators have provided to myself and the world, as it has proved to be one of the most powerful forces of spiritual and personal development in my life. I’m also thankful for the community of people that has formed around that creative output. They tend to be quite friendly, accepting, and very humorous. A whole lot of work has gone into archiving and sharing rare and important pieces, so I’m thankful for that effort, as it makes some very important art easily accessible to me and others. Fueled and inspired by your art as you were by others, a new generation of people have found vindicating and beautiful new ways to express themselves, including myself. And that is something that I will always, always be thankful for.

Max T

I love you so much!

Jack

I wonder, do you still feel prickly about audience things sometimes? in what ways is your writing process different, in terms of writing to an invisible/visible audience?

Luka Buchanan

the CSH patreon has genuinely been some of the highlights of my past year - i still hold quite close the stories from Gospels explored in Biblical Wanderings last year. i’ve also connected with some really cool people through here (Damien, another ‘regular’ at Biblical Wanderings, had to pull out of the patreon but we have stayed in touch, and he sends love), and i’m grateful for that too. i deeply appreciate the insight into life as a touring band, and it’s so exciting to see the magic happen in musical livestreams (when I wake up in time to catch them). Perth is the most isolated capital city in the world, and i really enjoy feeling connected to other artists & fans around the globe. it’s really very special to me… i also really hope that we have fostered a sense of psychological safety for you & the rest of the band to share things! the insights feel special and uncommon, as does the opportunity to thoughtfully respond. to me, it is a very exciting and thoughtful forum!

Luka Buchanan

it's so good to hear that you're doing better. i'm so grateful for your music, it helped me out in ways i didn't even think of — it resonates with me on a really deep level to the point where i don't really know how to articulate it. you don't often find pieces of art that perfectly capture feelings you always lacked the words to describe. it got me through hard times and it made the difficult times easier. paradoxically all of that darkness ended up leading to light. i think it's beautiful how good things can come out of bad ones, even if you can't quite see it yet. there is always light at the end of the tunnel 🫶

nick [chettodust_]

Happy thanksgiving 🫶🏼 This essay has really resonated with me bc I feel like I’ve also lived in a certain darkness of my own since at least age 13. I’m 27 now and have learned to manage a lot of it but it’s still there. I’m so grateful for the artists and writers who make music and books and movies that have helped me navigate these big weird feelings and experiences by articulating what I’m feeling and experiencing in a way I haven’t been able to. Almost like having many big brothers and sisters to remind me that life can suck but I’m not alone and not all of life sucks :’) also being part of a community of people who love the same band I do has been so fun! This Patreon has been such a joy the past year + and it’s so awesome to share it with all of you 💕 thank you for your music and your essays and everything else the CSH crew does! Sending much Love love love !!

Carmen✨

I will forever be grateful for you and your music. I'm (unfortunately) currently a senior in highschool and trying to figure out a college pathway. I have a lot of similar anxieties, insecurities, general discomfort, and usual awkward teenager stuff lol. I really struggle to connect with people my age and your music has given me a voice for things I didn't know I needed a voice for. Funnily enough, nervous young man is my favorite album right now. Anyway, thank you for being cool and making cool music 🫶

elvis

All of the gratitude essays this month have really helped me to reckon with my own feeling of "darkness"— A lot of the time I go to car seat headrest songs when I need to hear a reflection of that feeling, and it really makes me feel hopeful to see that it can become less overwhelming eventually.

Caiden

Happy Thanksgiving Will. From the joyful memory of our whole family belting out Destroyed by Hippie Powers together on a roadtrip to the comfort of Life Worth Missing while crying after losing my sweet dad, you’ve been there for my light and dark. And I thank you.

Kate

This is so beautiful, ur music genuinely has done so much for me as well as it is some of the most beautiful artwork I have ever heard. I’m so grateful for the work put in by the entire band and I will be here to see all accomplishments to come

Annabelle Villafuerte

Thank you so much!! Your music has gotten me through a lot of difficult moments in life, i find myself relating to it a lot. When i listen to it i feel understood, im honestly so thankful💖

Kamil Tomaszewski

ps if you accept po box mail again i would love to send you some 1 trait stuff.........

Knives

🩷🩷🩷 this is such a wonderful community that has brought me so much love, thank you for sharing this

nate!!

will toledo i love you

Leah Olson

Your fans are incredibly grateful for you too Will, your work has given me a more intensely positive feeling of catharsis than i believed possible. I can’t wait for the new album, hopefully an NA tour, and anything else you and the band choose to produce. Thank you for sharing your work with us. 🫶

raven

car seat headrest truly has gotten me out of the darkness !!! it's so sweet to know that we have similar experiences on each side of this ☺️ all of your music has connected with me and im sure so many others on such a deep level , it communicates everything im feeling and voices what i could never say augh ,, i am so thankful for csh always <3

opal !

this is so beautiful, will. we are all so grateful for the band. i have met some of my closest friends through the csh fandom and so many of my fondest memories have csh baked into them. i couldnt ask for a better band to be a fan of or better friends to share this love with

Knives

And likewise, Will! I think I am speaking on behalf of all of us when I say we’re equally as grateful for you and your art. For us, it’s finding companionship in bands like Nine Inch Nails, Green Day, AND Car Seat Headrest now. You and your band has created music that speaks directly to so many people who don’t have the words or the chords to express themselves yet. You guys have inspired me to start pursuing music despite barely having picked up an interest before, to start seeking out new experiences and knowledge and etc. I’m sure it’s difficult sometimes to handle a big fan base, but truly I am in awe of how wonderful you all are. You created something great, man. And definitely inspired lots of people to start creating as well. Can’t wait to see the new music you all are putting out soon and HOPEFULLYY seeing you guys on tour!

frankie

Thank you for providing and accepting light 🫶

kaci ミ★

this is so beautiful. your art has inspired so many, and expressing that darkness has led so many people to find comfort and feel understood. we are so grateful for you too 🫶

ryann alleman

i’m glad you saw the bright lights (and hopefully have good times)

rumi

Don't forget! We're with you in the dark!

Gabi Emerson

It’s been an absolute joy listening to all of your music dude. We love you Will!!!!!!!

Tetrotany

love you will🖤🖤

alo

This is so beautifully worded, your music has helping me through more dark times than I can count. <3

spencer

"I came to college, and dropped off handmade copies of the numbered CSH albums in the college radio station’s PO Box." this is some info i didn't know about! i should maybe do that with my music.... thanks will

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