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AMA Stream #62b [Monday @ 5pm ET]
Added 2025-06-07 15:55:31 +0000 UTCHi all,
Here's the link for the second part of the AMA livestream. The stream will begin at 5pm ET on Monday (June 9) and will likely run for 4+ hours. The replay will remain linked here—most patrons just watch the replay, so don't worry about missing it live! As usual, I will answer questions from the comments on a separate post (from last month) for $15+ Patrons.
Looking forward to chatting!
–Natalie
Comments
am I the only one who feels Natalie doing a video specifically about Palestine on her main YouTube channel would not really fit her theme? she's not a YouTuber that just covers all politics like some news reporter. people can have different things they focus on in their own lives and work. I, personally, am so fucking stressed out and depressed with my own personal problems and the state of the country we live in (United States), that I don't think about Israel or Palestine much...at all (you can't focus on every issue in the world at all times). it's devastating what is going on in Palestine, but I am not understanding the mentality here of expecting her to address a specific thing. youtubers/celebrities/literally anyone who isn't a politician aren't dancing monkeys that owe us anything other than the art or content they decide to produce and focus on.
TiffanyLaurelY
2025-10-04 05:02:05 +0000 UTCI was really hoping that the new contrapoints video would be here tonight. I have been going to sleep listening to John Waters interviews and am afraid of the depression and apathy that might overtake me not having any more John Waters to fall asleep to. Today I had lunch with my father and he went on and on about how great One Battle After Another and he has no idea who Paul Thomas Anderson is. One Battle After Another is great because its Paul Thomas Anderon TODAY responding to the nightmare american 4rth reich we are all watching unfold and the next Contrapoints will be great because Natalie is great.
william kirkpatrick
2025-10-01 03:54:41 +0000 UTChello natalie. its taken me a long time to write something about your post on palestine, both because i wanted to collect my thoughts and because you probably wont read it. first of all, forgive any issues with tone, english is not my native language. I've been a follower through many "cancelations" of yours, but this is the one where i feel there is actually some reflection needed on your part. ive admired you for your intelect, wit, and humour, ive been a youtube subscriber for years and when i got my own credit card, i became a patreon too. i dont even have a netflix subscription, but i really do admire you and your work and wanted to support you, as well as have acess to the tangents. your post does not erase that admiration, however, it did come as a dissapointment. people are overreacting, as they tend to do on the internet, but it really was a callous and self centered post. i understand people were asking for "your thoughts" on the matter, but what they wanted was an aknowledgment of the war crimes being committed, of the genocide of the palestinian people, something that you, who made a career out of commenting on current political events, were expected to cover. what you ended up doing, as you have probably now been made aware, is center yourself in a discussion in which you are not the one being targeted. i am not the most knowledgeble person on the history of the middle east or its conflicts, but i do know this: what isreal is doing, it is doing with direct support of the united states military complex. in my opinion, as someone who is not from the united states, that makes it every citizens responsability to do something about it. be that organizing/going to live protests, making donations big or small or talking about it to your very large youtube audience. yes, the images that surface on twitter may cause us to feel despair and hopelessness, but out of any country in the world, people in the united states have the most say on this topic. the highest autority of my country, president lula, has already talked openly about being against the genocide, and brazil has offered an official cease fire agreement, which every country signed But the U.S.A. it was vetoed. your countries word matters that much. that means that even though you might not feel like it, your voice does matter. yes, saying the obvious out loud does matter. out of anywhere in the world, people within your country are the ones that should be calling out your elective representatives the most, because you have the most power to impact the lives of the actual people being stripped of their lands, lives and dignity. i do not believe your post makes you "a horrible person" for whatever thats worth. i have made my own share of misguided decisions, as has every person. however, i do not think this "cancelation" was completely unwarrented. if i were you, i would try not to be alone right now (especially since in your latest post you seem to be in a worsening state of depression). spend time offline, with people who care about you and who you care about also. however, when you are ready, please do reflect. i dont mean to sound preachy, i just think you are too intelligent to turn into another ethan klein type of individual who got cancelled by "the left" one too many times and became a crazed up right winger. so please, try not to do that. ive already told my irl friends im a fan of yours, so if you did that, it would be pretty cringe (jk). i do wish you the best, as someone who also suffers from depression, and who is trying to dig myself out of a hole. I want you to remember that one mistake, one bad decision, is bound to happen. however, there are lives at stake also. and they should be the focus of any discussion on this topic, no ifs buts or ands. i have been contemplating unsubbing to the patreon. i dont think you'll miss the small amount i give you monthly, brazilian currency is worth shit compared to the dollar. but i really wanted to say that if you could, in any way, raise money to the palestinian release fund, or help families in gaza with direct gofundme donations, or something, not to "atone for your sins" or to give anyone of us the "satisfaction" of being in the right, but just because. its the right thing to do. especially when you have a platform the size of yours and theres people going through genocide. that would make me, one singular person and fan, proud to call myself a fan again. for whatever thats worth. do rest up, natalie, and once you do, please reflect.
nessa nessa
2025-09-19 22:51:59 +0000 UTCOnce again, she talked about her feelings about it because people asked, even DEMANDED that she share her feelings. And now that she has... people are furious at her for talking about her feelings.
Cole
2025-09-03 18:56:53 +0000 UTCthe ideas here about creative voice, authenticity, and artistry as process are so beautiful and resonant
chatargenté
2025-08-23 21:37:20 +0000 UTCyes and it is more hopeless under Trump, she is correct, this might be in the context the most demoralizing case of cowardly infighting I have ever seen
Adam Karas
2025-08-10 14:27:43 +0000 UTCReally sad to unsubscribe from your Patreon but positioning your feelings when talking about a genocide that is happening to others while you at the bare minimum have access to food is disgusting.
Rose Cherry
2025-08-07 04:49:29 +0000 UTCGenocide is STILL happening. People are STILL starving. I'm sorry to hurt your sensibilities
Walter Ramirez
2025-08-03 08:32:08 +0000 UTCRegarding the arc of "Cringe culture" from the 90s-now, I think it can largely be summarized through South Park, a show which has generally mapped the Late Gen X/Millenial Zeitgeist pretty well. The early seasons are much more anti-religion, and typically the "left wing" targets are individual celebrities who are presented as being up their own asses about charity etc. See the Season 1 Sally Struthers episode for an early example of that, which has continued through the entire show's history. Through a modern lens some of the ways they attack these people are pretty right-coded (fatphobia etc), but this was much more universal at the time. I think Season 3 marks a beginning of a more rightward shift, where they (as a couple of white guys) would start making episodes about like, how ridiculous hate crime laws are., "the death camp of tolerance", etc. You start to see a lot more of the classic "these smug leftists think they know how to protect vulnerable population X, but actually they're only pretending to care and they're evil". This would become a formula for them for the next decade and a half, and they very rarely had any contempt left for actual bigots, but rather it was always "PC culture" being cringe. To the degree they were targeting right-wingers, it was lingering anti-religious sentiment. I don't want to stretch this too far, because I think they were swimming in these waters rather than inventing this style, but I do see this as the vibe shift that culminated in the "alt-right" and then trump after a decade+. Essentially the abandonment of the previous manners-coded style of conservatism through the failure of GWB and beyond, to a much more crass style. This is likely the reason the show was not perceived as being fundamentally right-wing at the time, because the establishment right still didn't use that style. I think they realized what they had been part of post-2016, which led to an attempt to frame the show as less political, and really people generally stopped paying attention to it around that time, but I will note that them re-embracing "Politics with a capital P" by going hard after trump might be the sign of that vibe shift this entire comment was originally supposed to be about. I think there's a really good video essay waiting to be made on the topic of SP and the shifting right-wing style, because so much of the media analysis about that show just takes things at face value, and therefore falls apart to first-level arguments like "but they make fun of everyone!" Anyway I accidentally wrote a huge SP rant lol. My bad, I blame ADHD meds.
Derick Gadd
2025-08-02 21:26:28 +0000 UTCwatching Severance on Natalie's recommendation. I must say I really admire Brigitte Empire's new takedown of Jo Ro
william kirkpatrick
2025-07-03 06:15:11 +0000 UTCPrefacing this by saying I am a huge fan of gamechanger: the only creators I pay for are Contrapoints and Dropout...no netflix, etc. All that being said, as much as I love content from both, I don't know if a crossover between the two makes any sense. Dropout is improvisational & zany while Natalie's videos are baroque, precise & filthy (complimentary). It's hard for me to imagine Natalie jumping into something so unscripted. Of course, I'm often wrong about things, and if she did go for it I'd watch!
stick by stick
2025-07-01 07:37:21 +0000 UTCWait Natalie you HAVE to go on DropOut! It's not a crummy little YouTube wannabe and a lot of your audience watches their stuff!
Alex F
2025-06-29 19:06:37 +0000 UTCnights when i can't sleep and i notice the stream is on it's like a snow day where i don't have to go to worry and rumination school
cora
2025-06-26 14:35:17 +0000 UTCI am at 4:44:26 20second break, sip of black rum. LOVE THIS LOVE THIS.....I am a pianist and I feel so lit-on-fire by hearing Natalie's description of how she struggled....I don't even think talent exists. You just spend a few years with one good teacher....and then HELL-TORTURE-DESPAIR for hours and hours and you get something good recorded somehow, that you consider boring but everybody likes it. I am forcing myself to learn the Bach-Busoni Chorale Prelude 4 in g major, the one with the the bitchin' background 16th notes all the way through
william kirkpatrick
2025-06-26 09:06:56 +0000 UTCI'm 100% a shitlib who votes for, volunteers for, and even donates to mainstream Democrats, AND I still love Tabby and absolutely would have posted something like "time to go full Tabby" after the 2024 election as a cope. I'm fully aware that Tabby's revolution is a fantasy but sometimes that fantasy helps get me through the day when the news is so horrific. Just so you know some of your fans who post things like that aren't actually radical Marxist-Leninists and your creation of Tabby didn't radicalize us, it gave us a fantasy outlet to keep us from going mad!
Cole
2025-06-25 17:09:31 +0000 UTCI would never have thought to ask the universe for Natalie Wynn to sing AfroMan's "Because I Got High" on stream, but blyat dayum did that put a smile on my face like few things in this current hellscape have managed to
Cole
2025-06-25 16:44:07 +0000 UTC“delicious soap”
Andrew May
2025-06-19 09:39:28 +0000 UTCIn terms of the whole originality in art, I think there is too much of a preoccupation with being seen as "derivative" that I think is detrimental to developing a craft and finding your own identifiable style. I am a singer and I was worried for a long time that I was just adopting my favorite singers phrasing choices, etc. But, the thing is, it's actually a good idea to try to imitate people who are actually good at what they do! Successful imitation of good art shows that you've developed a skillset to make good art yourself. My music improv/Jazz band director in college told us one time that "stealing is a eurocentric concept", and, yeah, I do think that's a little overly simplistic, but there is some truth to that! We have literally enshrined in our laws that an idea, a figment of our human imagination, can be "owned" by a specific person, which is a really silly idea on its face. Mfs across the globe were all basically inventing the same instruments with complete cultural isolation from one culture to the next, and somehow europeans, the japanese, native americans, etc. made string instruments or drums or flutes, etc. without even knowing others existed. That's because we're humans who are very like-minded regardless of our background, and that is the unifying human experience, so it would be silly to think that someone would "own" the concept of anything of those things, when, just by the nature of human consciousness, someone probably thought about it already anyways! Jazz musicians are gonna have a more communal notion around art in general, as much of band music before IP laws really took hold, but I really do think we need to be thinking about art the way we do with science, that we are contributing and building upon a collective body of work. No one should be able to own any idea. Focus on developing a skill set. Just keeping doing more, and more, and even more. It's okay to be derivative at first. It's okay to wear your influences on your sleeves. Knowing what is "good taste" necessitates you knowing what everyone else has done. Feel free to borrow ideas. Take in as much as you can, and the originality will come in time, as long as you're critical of your work and can acknowledge what needs improvement. The most unique and subversive thing you can do in society today is to develop craftsmanship. In a world where everyone is being driven into wage labor and so much focus is being removed from the humanities, people who do art 5/6ths of the time just fucking suck at it. Being good at what you do is the ultimate subversion, and you can only know what is good and how to get good by observing it and imitating it. "Being human and being aware what human nature can be like, we trust that people will learn to walk the only way it is possible for them to learn: by walking." - Isaac Puente
caj1ga
2025-06-15 05:32:03 +0000 UTCyour next video has to include an explanation of the Elektra chord just to one up the Tristan chord normies
caj1ga
2025-06-15 03:31:08 +0000 UTC
