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Gamergate Tangent Back Online

Hi all—good news!

I've successfully appealed YouTube's removal of the Gamergate Tangent, which was taken down for "harassment and bullying" after bad-faith flagging by, I can only assume, Gamergate supporters.

I have decided to age restrict the Tangent (like I did with the psychedelics one) to help prevent future flagging. So you'll have to log in to YouTube to watch it. I hope that's not too inconvenient.

If I were ever to refine this Tangent into a main channel video (which seems appealing at the moment), I would have to be much more cautious about showing examples of harassing messages, and generally with using non-euphemistic language. Because, as we've learned, Gamergate continues to be one of the most vindictive and pathetically online movements out there. They complain that feminist criticism is somehow "censoring" games at the same time they organize boycotting, flagging, and harassment campaigns to silence anyone who disagrees with them.

Unfortunately YouTube's flagging system has always been vulnerable to this type of abuse. An hour of video gets uploaded to YouTube every second, so you can imagine the moderators do not have a lot of time to spend reviewing the context for each flagged video. False positives happen. In 2016 I had a video called "Why White Nationalists Are Wrong" or something like that taken down. It was flagged and removed for violating YouTube's hate speech rules, presumably because it showed hate symbols onscreen or didn't censor the word "N*zi." Meanwhile, actually bigoted videos don't get taken down because the bigots know to use dogwhistles. And they're so gleeful about false-flagging anti-fascist videos—"I thought you wanted more censorship online! I guess karma's a bitch!" So I've been blurring swastikas and generally being very careful with de-contextualizable quotations ever since. I need to be more cautious with the Tangents too it seems.

Anyway, here's the link to the restored Tangent: https://youtu.be/N8EqmExn1No

Thanks again for your patience and support!

Natalie

Comments

Maybe you could transition over to nebula. Long form advertiser unfriendly content tends to work better there

Terra Jones

I decided to watch this one from watching the Ian Danskin series, and I found the comments disabled, these people are insufferable.

Jenny Rodriguez

im loving the jazz soundtrack in this video

HALALALA

I have an idea on a tangent, Queer Heterosexuality (or more accurately called queer cis allo heterosexuality). The idea that e.g. a GNC allo cishet butch woman can identify as queer. Peronally ive thought about it a lot and i dont see valid objections. Its just an idea and if you dont want to talk about it for whatever reason thats fine.

Sappho's Friend

It must be so hard to be a petulant man child (at 40).

Yeah

Can you talk to us about Israel? Seems complicated

🥔

Wait, Russell Brand the actor/comedian fellow? Is he a GGer?

J. Francis

Thank you Natalie. I was totally uninformed about this and with everything that is being brought up anew in the UK about Russell Brand—and how he seems to be defending himself at least partly through his criticism of the media, writ large—it felt especially pertinent. What is this thing about being reactionary against the media as a guise for oppressing women?

the Zoe Quinn drama is John Tucker Must Die but the main characters are nerds not popular girls

Sam Wolfe

I was watching your interview with Matt Bernstein, and the topic of Blaire White debasing herself came up. I have to agree with your position, both on the way trans people blur the lines on a fundamental human distinction, and how traditional cis people respond to the cognitive dissonance through contradictions. I find Blaire White, while maybe not always tasteful, functionally acts as a gateway for conservatives to grasp maybe more constructively at the (frankly) earth shattering new concept of transgender identities. The Info Wars segment demonstrates this nicely; not only did Alex Jones, to his own disbelief, assert that Blaire was a woman, he wished her well (offering something to the effect of "god bless you for the work you do"). Blaire White may not be the trans you want; but she is the trans you need

The moral panic around transgender identities is clicking atm. Like, "transgenderism is a social contagion" or "the trans are pedos" both seem like they belong in the same crowd of people who fear satanic daycares or an influx of Catholic nationals

I watched it twice before the mass-flagging…Random bored gamergate truthers simply cannot stop me from immediately consuming any work you put out

I’m not fully finished with the video yet, but I wanted to say I am sorry that you experienced such cruelty, harassment, and acts of violence from the hands of people you’ve never seen. I have always believed that there needs to be more tangible, real life consequences for people that have committed such acts from behind a computer/phone screen. They should not be allowed to just go back to bed after traumatizing someone so deeply. Even if it’s like a court ordered couple months at a social media detox center or something, it’s better than just absolutely nothing being done.

Pierre Brown

I'm very grateful you could successfully appeal YT's removal because I hadn't been able to watch the Gamergate Tangent yet, but I finally did last night. I had been waiting for a video from you on the topic and if this Tangent is the elaborated nearly-one-and-a-half-hour-long draft of a future Main Channel Video (trademark), I just sayin'... YES, PLEASE. And if it isn't, I'm still super grateful for this Tangent video. Keep up the amazing work, Natalie! :-)

RamblesAboutStuff

How about next Tangent being about Camille Paglia? She sounds like a real piece of work.

Shayzy

I’m finally getting around to finishing watching this Tangent, and my god Part Four is brilliant. This type of stuff needs to be main channel material so I can share some of these gosh darn amazing things that you are saying. Genius, Natalie. Genius.

Thank you for this Ms Points. Excellent work as ever.

dan le sac

There is so much fascism emerging from conspiracies. I came across this article https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/aug/02/everything-youve-been-told-is-a-lie-inside-the-wellness-to-facism-pipeline?CMP=share_btn_tw and I’ve seen this in Europe in real time. Hard to find a nutritionist or a trainer that is not becoming straight fascist/eugenic. Y’all just need your thoughts to don’t sick and die! I wonder if it’s connected with TESCREAL (transhumanism, extropianism, singularitarianism, cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and longtermism) ideologies somehow (and financed by it)

can anyone tell me the name of the song at 49 minutes?

Caio Cerruti

Love this tangent. So ashamed to know that my internal transphobia was so bad when I was young that I subbed to gamergaters like sargon 😭😭

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Tangent to the tangent, "an hour of video gets uploaded to YouTube every second" is way underselling it. Published estimates state 3-500 hours every minute, so 5-8 hours per second.

I feel like in terms of tangents to refine “AI” or “liminal spaces” would be more appealing, interesting, timely (not to mention safer) topics for the general youtube public than “gamer-gate” Anyway follow ur heart ♥️,

ryan rieffel

victory!!!!! 💖

fae

I’m so glad that it’s back online! Have always been fascinated by Gamergate and it’s weirdly big impact on culture, will check it out when I have time to sit down and watch it. I’m 100% sure it’s a banger video given your insight, rhetoric and experience. Random thought, but would “How hate groups abuse YouTube’s false flagging mechanisms and other social media algos” be an interesting topic for a video, if not too emotionally draining for you? (If couched in a lot of fun and creative euphemisms)

Franco del Rosario


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