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Chapter 231 - Round Table

Gera

Month 9, Day 4, Saturday 8:00 a.m.

 

Gera’s constantly running divination took in the others sitting at the round table they had set up in the center of the Undreaming Order’s second floor. Deidre, Anders with his dog lying by the foot of his chair, Jackal, Martha, Sharon, Enforcer Turner, the artificer Liza, and Healer Nidson were all in attendance.

Most, like Gera, were there representing the most dedicated members of the Undreaming Order, though the latter two were only adjacently involved in their efforts, and had been called to this meeting for their outside perspectives and their particular areas of expertise. Gera could not see them, but she could sense each contour and movement of their bodies, along with everything else in a moderate radius around her. 

She cleared her throat gently, pressing her fingers gently against the newspaper lying on the table in front of her. “We are here today to discuss what I believe might be the latest move by the Raven Queen. Sebastien Siverling dueled and defeated Frederick Pendragon, heir to the High Crown, yesterday afternoon.” 

Several of those around the table nodded, but Liza narrowed her eyes, and Nidson yawned and pinched the bridge of his nose. The man had been up late working on a particularly tricky injury to one of the flock—a woman who had been half-flayed by her husband. Nidson was not a true member of the Undreaming Order, but he was happy to work for gold when they encountered an injury that their simple stock of potions and bandages couldn’t heal. Deidre especially appreciated that he tended to undercut his prices whenever he felt moved by the more pitiful patients, but the man obviously had little time for rest. “Pardon me, but I fail to see how the latest gossip is relevant? Do you believe the Raven Queen somehow sabotaged the match?” he asked. 

“Those who do not follow news of the Raven Queen closely might not be aware,” Gera said, “But she places special importance on Sebastien Siverling. We…” She shared a look with Deidre. “Well, we do not know why. However, she has bestowed upon him a boon of anti-divination, and she admitted before the Red Guard that they have some sort of special connection.” 

Liza looked down and raised her fingertips to her mouth, but it didn’t completely cover the secret, amused twitching of her lips. 

Gera didn’t need to be a prognos to know the other woman thought she knew something the rest of them didn’t. She turned her head so that it seemed she was staring pointedly. 

Liza looked up and noticed. She calmed her expression quickly. “Yes, I do think I heard somewhere that they have a special connection. But I don’t have any extra details. I wasn’t even aware of the duel. What happened to make a meeting like this necessary?”

Deidre eagerly volunteered to read the story in the newspaper. The account was somewhat less sensationalized than usual, considering the people involved and the power they wielded. Neither the High Crown nor Frederick Pendragon had been available for comment, but the Ambassador to the Public had been quoted. “A friendly duel between two young men is meant to be a learning experience, and young Lord Pendragon was very gracious in allowing a serious handicap and holding back so that Mr. Siverling could display all of his skills, despite his relatively much weaker power.” 

“I was there,” Martha, Millennium’s personal caretaker, said. “The fight was quite exciting, but I didn’t even know the half of what Mr. Siverling was actually doing until I saw an analysis of it in the paper. A lot of it was invisible.” 

Young Enforcer Turner grinned giddily and clenched a victorious fist. “And he punched Pendragon in the face! That was the absolute best part of the whole thing.” 

Anders reached into his satchel, pulled out a bowl and a canteen, and set some water on the floor for his dog. “It’s relevant because of the fact that Frederick Pendragon was completely outclassed in skill levels, if not power, and by the end of the day, the whole city will be gossiping about it, if they aren’t already. Am I right?”

“Yes,” Gera said. 

“Politics is warfare by other means,” he said sagely. “Undermining the High Crown’s authority by throwing their competence into doubt and delegitimizing the worthiness of his heir.” 

“It fits her methodology,” Deidre agreed. “She loves to make her enemies look foolish.” 

Sharon, their cook, pursed her lips with mild disapproval, but said nothing. The woman was much more interested in caring for and feeding the needy, and opposing the kidnapping and torture of children, than reveling in the Raven Queen’s more vicious exploits. 

“I do have a few contacts within Pendragon Palace, and some skill in divination,” Gera said. “There is no evidence that Frederick Pendragon actually challenged Sebastien Siverling to a duel at any point before their meeting at the exhibitions. I believe it is highly likely that Thaddeus Lacer acted on behalf of the Raven Queen to challenge Pendragon.” 

Martha leaned forward. “I saw Siverling’s face when the duel was announced. He seemed totally shocked. Do you think…he didn’t know about it ahead of time?” 

“The Raven Queen must have been very confident in his skills,” Enforcer Turner said. “As expected, from someone the Raven Queen found worthy enough to bestow a boon on. I wish I could fight like that.” 

“Why the High Crown accepted the duel, I do not know,” Gera said. 

“Perhaps he thought there was little danger of losing,” Anders offered. “That would be the obvious reaction. In truth, Siverling does seem to have gotten quite lucky. He took advantage of being underestimated. But that doesn’t matter, since all most people will really consider is the headline. Sebastien Siverling bested Frederick Pendragon in a duel.” 

“And punched him in the face,” Enforcer Turner repeated, grinning. “Just from hearing that, I feel he’s fifteen percent more likable. We could definitely be friends.” 

Jackal had taken out a tiny dagger from somewhere and was giving himself a manicure with its razor-sharp edge. “So, what is her plan with all this? To be honest, after what happened, I expected something more…dramatic.” 

“It’s only step one of her plan!” Deidre said, glaring at him. “Well, probably.” 

Gera pressed out her palms, motioning for them to be calm. “The Raven Queen has put herself in opposition to the established powers from the time she came to Gilbratha. However, not many know that several months ago, she sent a letter to the High Crown requesting a meeting to discuss peace, and he turned her down and promised to apprehend her. That part was in the papers. After what happened later, I doubt there is any chance for him to escape unscathed. So, I wonder, was it a sense of fairness that led her to make that overture, or was it a trap, leading him to make himself more firmly her enemy so that she could feel justified in taking him out? Or maybe she was just taunting him. After all, if she really wanted to meet, there’s no chance his security could stop her. However, I agree. After what he did, the man is lucky to still be alive.” 

Anders shuddered and reached down to pet Bear’s head for comfort. 

Deidre absently rubbed her burn-scarred ear. “I think we might be able to guess at some of her plans by examining the things she’s stated publicly. The letter to the Edictum Council, for one. At first, I thought it was just a poetic promise of retribution, but…doesn’t it sound kind of like a prophecy?” 

Liza scoffed. “Please don’t tell me you believe in prophecy.” 

Deidre ran a hand through her hair and pulled it to the side, defiantly showing off the burn scars covering the other side of her scalp. “Even if you don’t want to call it a prophecy, do you think it is wise to discount a possible warning by the Raven Queen? I’m not saying she can see into the future, but I would be entirely unsurprised if she has ways of knowing things the rest of us don’t. I have been compiling and re-reading the Book of the Raven Queen, and as I begin to understand her better…I’ve become increasingly troubled by the contents of her letter.” 

Deidre reached into the satchel at her side and pulled out the binder with the latest version of her work. “Listen.” 

 

‘On a cold wind blew strife.

The thief of fire,

Will be a light in the darkness,

A candle against the night,

And will laugh as she feasts.

 

Save your tears for yesterday.

As you dream of cracked roads,

And tend your garden of sticks.

For madness makes no plans,

And there is but one cure for the living.

 

A scream into the void echoes.

Black eyes see nothing,

But a fortune of dust,

Empty bellies and sharp teeth,

And payment in bone.’”

 

Enforcer Turner shuddered. “Okay, you’ve convinced me. Creepy. But what does it mean?”

“She is the thief of fire,” Healer Nidson said. “I think it’s an allusion to one of the old myths, where humans stole knowledge of fire from the Titans. And the fire would be—”

“The book the University brought back from their expedition,” Sharon interrupted. 

Healer Nidson nodded at her. “Yes, ma’am. Knowledge, essentially.” 

“So she will be a light in the darkness, a candle against the night?” Martha asked. “What is the night?”

Anders rubbed the stubble forming on his chin. “If we continue with the theme, then the night would be ignorance, right? But I feel like the second verse is a lot more interesting. Cracked roads and a garden of sticks seems like a prediction that everything that her enemies have built, both industry and personal wealth, will be destroyed.” 

“What about, ‘Save your tears for yesterday?’” Martha asked. 

Enforcer Turner shrugged. “Because once it happens, it’s already too late to cry about it.” 

Sharon leaned over to read from the binder in front of Deidre. “Madness makes no plans? Is she calling herself mad?” 

“That’s not about her,” Deidre said confidently. “She’s a chess-mistress with plans within plans. Every domino she knocks over hits two or three different objectives at once.” 

Martha hesitated. “Perhaps she is mocking her enemies for being ‘mad’ and not properly preparing for what’s to come? Reacting improperly to the danger she represents?”

“Or to an external threat,” Anders said, his mouth growing grim. “‘But one cure for the living…’ I can’t think of anything other than ‘death’ that would complete that riddle. If we assume that she’s talking about something that will be severe enough that people will either wish or need to die to escape it… A Blight-type? A Nightmare-type? Or an illness curse?”

Healer Nidson’s gaze sharpened. “Biological warfare?”

Sharon pressed her lips together and shook her head. “It could simply mean that things will be so hopeless that people will wish to die to escape. ‘A scream into the void echoes.’ That obviously hints that there will be no salvation, no one who can help. And the black eyes, are those hers?”

Enforcer Turner nodded sharply. “Definitely. You remember what she said when we were escaping from the Pendragon Corps, right, Anders?” 

“Yes. She said a few lines from the letter, but clarified. ‘Your screams will echo into the void,’ and, ‘my eyes see nothing but a fortune of dust.’ She screamed it in her eldritch-horror voice, the one that echoed and warbled.” Anders reached for Bear’s head again and took a calming breath as the dog pressed itself against his chair, the creature’s sheer weight causing it to scrape a few centimeters across the floor. “I can’t forget it even if I wanted to.” 

Jackal, Turner, and Deidre echoed his shudder. 

Jackal shared an uneasy look with the others. “Okay, I admit, this is starting to seem quite unsettling. I feel like maybe we should have put more importance on this from the beginning. Because the last verse is predicting poverty, famine, and violence. I mean, hopefully it’s…exaggerated?” 

Deidre snorted. “If anything, the Raven Queen is prone to understating things. She prefers to impress people with action, not words. If she feels the need to exaggerate, then the reality would probably be cataclysmic.” 

Gera’s back prickled with a sudden wave of cold at the other woman’s word choice. “Let us turn our attention back to the beginning. After reading the whole thing, that part seems to take on new meaning. Would she say that if she were going to be the one to bring about this ruin? Why would she need to be a light in the darkness or a candle against the night if she were in control of what’s coming?” 

“She’s—” Deidre’s voice broke, and she cleared her throat before continuing. “The Raven Queen is not all-powerful. But if she considers herself merely a candle compared to a world of night, then things must be very, very bad.” 

Sharon tapped the binder. “You have the tenets she handed to the Undreaming Order, right? I respected her quite a bit more when I heard them. I don’t believe that young woman—or incredibly ancient sorceress, whatever you want to call her—would willingly place innocents at risk if there were any way to get around it. It’s why I’m willing to be a part of her organization. But if we consider that the letter was only meant as a threat to her enemies, then the first verse doesn’t make sense.” 

Healer Nidson tapped his fingers rhythmically against the table top. “So we must conclude that it was meant as a more general warning.” 

Martha looked to Gera. “Millennium has had some unpleasant episodes recently. Do you think…he might be hearing hints of what’s to come?”

Gera grimaced. “I hope not. If he is, then it means things are not far off. But if it is as serious as we suspect, and something the wind could bring rumors of, I imagine his reaction to the whispers would be much worse.” She was again grateful that her son no longer dreamed, and only rarely needed to sleep, even if it did mean that he got up to a huge amount of mischief while most of the household was asleep. 

“We should begin to stockpile food,” Sharon said firmly. 

“Do you think she’s already doing that?” Turner asked. “She said she would ‘laugh as she feasts.’” 

“She’s a powerful thaumaturge. She’ll never go hungry. But do you think she can feed the entire city?” Sharon asked. “I think that’s a little too unreasonable.” 

The young man shrugged. “Why not? She just needs to go out and kill a whale or a kraken once every few weeks. I work so hard on her behalf, I don’t believe she would let me starve.” 

Deidre slammed her hand onto the table and pointed an accusing at Turner. “You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation and your position!” she declared. “True, the Raven Queen protects her own. But do you think she’ll accept people into her flock who refuse to prepare or better themselves, who just want to do barely enough and then shelter under her wings and suck off her tit? She has standards!” 

Bear let out a deep, rumbling growl, staring over the edge of the table at Turner, who shrank back, chastened. 

Anders patted the side of Bear’s neck. “If we had no idea, that would be one thing. But she’s warned the entire city so blatantly already. Being completely unprepared for disaster would be due only to willful ignorance at this point. Especially after she literally handed us the resources to prepare.” 

“The celerium,” Deidre agreed. “It was much more than needed to hire a few extra teachers to come give lessons to the flock.” 

“What kind of medical supplies will we end up needing? Can we speak to her? I need details to properly stock the infirmary,” Nidson said. 

Liza cleared her throat. “How, exactly, do you all believe that the Raven Queen knows these things? Are you sure her predictions are accurate?”

A moment of silence followed. Finally, Deidre spoke up. “I’m not sure about her exact capabilities, but she told me directly that she was a seeker of mysteries, and that she wanted the flock to be, too. It seems reasonable that she has some methods to learn things the rest of us can’t.” 

“What about Lord Stag?” Anders asked. “They’ve collaborated in the past. Is he doing anything in particular? Something we could emulate?” 

Gera frowned. After hesitating for a moment, she said, “I sense that man has his own agenda. He collaborates with the Raven Queen, true, but he is not her follower. Still, he has been preparing local food production facilities. Not nearly enough to make a difference in a famine, however. But it’s undeniable that several powerful factions, including the Thirteen Crowns, have been stockpiling celerium and powerful components. People are still disappearing off the street, and an unusual number of long-distance caravans and fleets of ships have been going missing. The army is recruiting. Prices for food, basic potions, and clothing are rising, and with the ice storms in the northern islands and the drought in Kuth…” 

Liza nodded slowly. “That’s all true. But if she wanted you to do something about it, why hasn’t she given you more detail or specific instruction?” 

Gera could write to the Raven Queen in the linked journal the woman had given her and schedule a meeting. “We should ask her for clarification,” she agreed. 

“Wait,” Deidre said. “She did already give instructions. I just, well, I took them at face value.” 

Jackal scowled at her. “What exactly did she say?”

Deidre swallowed and looked at the ceiling as she tried to remember. “She wanted us to continue our current efforts, obviously. Feeding, clothing, and healing the flock. But in addition to that, she said that she wanted us to seek after mysteries, like her. And, um, specifically, she wanted every single member to learn to read, do basic math, and learn some basic meditations.” 

“Meditations?” Turner asked. 

“They can help to settle the mind, but most use them as a way to stabilize and prepare the Will,” Gera said. “She prescribed some mental exercises for my son, but he mostly keeps up with them in preparation to—” She stopped, her blind eye widening. “In preparation to learn magic. She told him she would teach him some magic one day.”

Enforcer Turner leaned forward so hard and fast he almost fell from his chair. “Wait, are you serious?” 

Deidre’s eyes had gone wide, and she was staring into the mid-distance as if watching the descent of the Radiant Maiden into their midst. “She said for those that complete those lessons, there would be more to come. Is that what she meant?” Her voice went high and squeaky with feverish intensity. “Do you think that’s what she meant!?” 

Liza raised her eyebrows. “Several of you are already thaumaturges. Would you need to complete the meditations, as well? Setting aside the illegality of teaching magic to others without, at minimum, a Master’s certification, how would she even afford to outfit every single member of the Undreaming Order with basic components and a Conduit? And beyond that, it takes so long to become a competent sorcerer. If the majority of the flock were to be of any use, she would need to wait years.” 

Deidre laughed somewhat maniacally. “She can just hand out celerium worth thirty thousand gold without twitching an eyebrow. I don’t think we need to worry about her resources.” She turned a feverishly intense gaze on Gera. “What are these meditation exercises, exactly? I need a list. We should buy reference books. Or maybe some meditation tutors. Monks are good at that, right? We need to hire some monks, real ones, like from the Isles of Coldpine.” 

“I don’t think they’re the kind of monks you think, unless you plan to sprint bare-chested into battle,” Anders muttered, but Deidre wasn’t listening. 

Liza’s lips twitched again. The woman crossed her arms and leaned back in her chair. “I did hear some rumors that what the Raven Queen stole was a method to create celerium. But are you sure that’s what she’s planning? Could she have had some other reason for her instructions?” 

“The lucid dreaming,” Enforcer Turner piped up immediately, only slightly less excited than Deidre. “The exercises to prepare for that can be a little like meditation.” Of them all, the young man was perhaps the most enthusiastic about the practice, though Gera had heard several of the other members of the flock complain that it was just an excuse for him to take a midday nap. 

Deidre flipped frantically through her binder. “Gera, you heard her sing that song to the Red Guard, right?” 

“Yes,” Gera said. The atmosphere among the others was getting to her, and her fingers twitched and trembled. She clasped her hands together in her lap. “She sang it in the eldritch-horror voice, as you called it. But like a lullaby.” 

Deidre found the page where she had recorded her interview with Gera and recited the song quickly. 

 

“Hush now, child, do not weep.

Close your eyes and sink to sleep.

In slumber’s realm, you may roam,

But heed me, child, stay close to home.

 

For should you wander far and wide,

Your soul may find a place to hide.

In the realm of dreams, beware,

Dark creatures roam with wicked stare.

 

For if you stray too far, too deep,

In the land where nightmares sleep,

Your soul may wander, lost and torn,

And those you’ve left behind, forlorn.

 

Secrets in the darkness keep,

For with the dawn, all shadows flee.

Sleep now, child, do not fear.

Morning comes soon, bright and clear.”

 

Spoken this way, it was much less disturbing than the original rendition. 

Anders and Jackal shared a knowing look. “It’s obviously a warning,” Ander said. 

Jackal pointed his small dagger at the other man. “Yes. A threat to them about the kind of power she controls. I mean, we already know that dreams—and nightmares—are part of her domain. If she were going to teach me any magic related to that song, I would definitely want to stabilize my Will as much as possible.” He turned to Diedre. “There has got to be information about the best ways to grow the other facets of the Will besides capacity, right? I agree, we need that.” 

“I can source some mind-healing potions and supplies if you allocate me some of that thirty thousand gold budget,” Nidson said. “But I would like to return our attention to the coming danger. Is it possible that the Undreaming Order is meant to be a stabilizing influence during the coming disaster? It would be a good reason for her to go to all the trouble to create an altruistic organization. After all, this doesn’t serve her personally in any way.” 

“We exist to keep more people alive?” Sharon murmured, staring at the table.

Anders pressed a fist to his mouth, absentmindedly petting Bear as the dog whined and placed its drooling head in his lap. “It would have been a good reason to reach out to the Verdant Stags, too, since they’ll surely serve a similar purpose.” There was a moment of silence as the weight of this possibility settled over all of them. 

“We won’t let her down,” Deidre declared solemnly, meeting each of their gazes individually. 

Jackal slipped and winced as he cut the side of his finger with the tiny dagger. “Should we try to help with the High Crown, too?” 

“But she never asked you to prepare for any of this,” Liza said. 

Deidre rolled her eyes. “Do we need the Raven Queen to explicitly say to prepare when she’s already warned of the coming danger? We’d be stupid not to listen to her. And otherwise, she’s literally told us what to do already. If she really needed our help with the High Crown, she would have said something. And in exchange, she would have given us something big. It’s probably less hassle for her to just handle it herself. What can we do that she can’t?”

Enforcer Turner pinched his chin thoughtfully. “But that doesn’t mean we can’t still build up small amounts of favor by assisting, just like we do with helping to run the Undreaming Order and helping people in her name, right?” 

“But we don’t know her plan,” Martha said. “If we start trying to embarrass and undermine the High Crown, is there any danger in doing it…too well?” 

Surprisingly, Sharon was the one to let out a dark chuckle. “How could a little embarrassment ever make up for his crimes? I don’t have any special capabilities, but if you need my limited skills for that, I would be delighted to assist.” 

“I don’t see the harm in it,” Deidre agreed. “But the focus of our efforts and resources should definitely be on carrying out her actual orders as well as possible. This is going to be a huge undertaking, if we do it right. We might need to buy up some of the surrounding buildings. I’ll start working on a plan. We need to expand and improve our efficiency, and figure out how to manage a much larger flock without letting people slip through the cracks. Maybe some kind of rewards and recognition program meant to increase our members’ sense of loyalty and belonging. I don’t want to tell everyone that the Raven Queen plans to teach them magic. We want people who are here for the right reasons, not a sense of greed.” 

“Maybe a ranking or badge system for various contributions and achievements?” Sharon offered. “We can all collaborate on the plan. I’m going to need a bigger kitchen, and some helpers. And…we should keep an eye on Sebastien. He’s a wonderful, sweet young man, and I worry he might run into danger, caught up between these powerful forces.”

Author Note: Happy Reading!

Comments

Yeah I need to do a reread also just due to time. I think shes at the end of her second term not second year. I don't really pay attention to the date and timeline of the story but I pretty sure it was mentioned in the past chapters that Sebastian was a second term student facing a graduated "master" in the duel with the High crowns Heir.

Alex

I thought Liza knew Siobhan and Sebastian were the same people. I am re-reading the series now because I am a "skimmer". Now that things are really starting to get complicated, I want to go back to read them. I love how Thaddeus thinks that Siobhan is trying to send him secret messages when she really has no idea what she is doing but how through the progression and growth of her character she has stumbled on the same or similar thought pattern as he has. I know she needs to keep some mystery about her but I think eventually Thaddeus is going to figure it out. Like when he figured out Sebastian's will strain much later, it is in the back of his thoughts and his subconscious is working on it. I hope he is impressed by her ingenuity and not disappointed that she is a 20 year old woman who is only in year 2? of university. She knows a lot that other people don't seem to, like casting two spells at once, and using the conduit on other parts of her body. He could learn a lot from her. Really curious about the Aberrant locked in her mind though, where that could go.

Elliedawn

The light refining technique would almost certainly not be one of the meditations used thanks to both its difficulty and its connection to Sebastian

Mister Cakers

Oh damn, this chapter finally slotted into place in my mind the scope of the coming disaster. We knew from Damien’s discovery that Aberrancy is approaching a tipping point but I couldn’t quite link the coming match before now. Consider, the coming Cerelium shortage and the war it’s almost certain to spark. If Aberrancy rates just need a final push to break open the damn, what better source than a massive continent spanning World War to drive up the number of Abberants? Especially when barring access to Myrddin’s Cerelium recipe, all sides will have to be rationing conduits. This practically screams of a coming disaster everyone will swear should have been obvious in retrospect. And poor Siobhan here is accidentally “predicting” the whole thing. With the prep work her followers are starting up, she’s all set to stumble into being the Messiah come to save everyone. One day she’ll look back on this and blow a gasket when she works out what some random words led too.

Slackwork

Like Dee said. Think we will get a retaliation from Osham in response to the Architect's attack. But also a dream realm / aberrant issue. It may even be the same event. I could see a war with Osham causing a bunch of break events during the fighting.

Alex

Liza might think they are a bit crazy with the "Raven Queen" stuff. But she also knows Siobhan isn't normal. She knows Siobhan is obsessed with not sleeping / protecting herself from nightmares. Plus all the extra raven tests Siobhan asked Liza to do. Plus the dead shaman they found together. This sleep topic plus the dead shaman should be setting off some alarms for Liza. Liza knows that Siobhan has access to information Liza doesn't. Like the journals. Liza might think that Siobhan has more depth then she first thought. From Liza's point of view maybe Siobhan does know more even though she never told Liza. And Siobhan kind of does. With the up coming aberrant issues and celerium shortage. Liza might not believe in the raven queen mythos but she doesn't know Siobhan as a person all that well. Its been mostly a business relationship. She doesn't know if Siobhan is purposely setting up this organization for something that Siobhan knows more about like the dream realm or the celerium shortage, or something else that she never told Liza about.

Alex

Liza has to have so many alarms going off with the sleep realm topic. She knows Siobhan is obsessed with not sleeping / protecting herself from nightmares. Plus all the extra raven tests Siobhan asked Liza to do. Plus the dead shaman they found together. Liza has to know there is more going on with Siobhan then any other person in the story right now. After she had the fight with Oliver it seems like Liza is Siobhan's biggest confidante in the story right now.

Alex

ooo this would be so cool.

Alex

Jack from my understanding she does not know the Siobhan and Sebastian are the same person. She knows that Siobhan and the Raven Queen are the same person but not the Sebastian part. Oliver and his close stag people are the only ones that know Sebastian and Siobhan are the same person and also the Raven queen.

Alex

Not all of it. The first part of it for sure and the whole "raven queen" stuff but... Liza has to know that Siobhan is not normal to some degree. All the sleep realm topic stuff has got to be peaking Liza's interest. Maybe Liza thinks Siobhan knows more about the sleep realm. "Your soul may find a place to hide. In the realm of dreams, beware, Dark creatures roam with wicked stare." Some of this sleep stuff has got to be putting Liza on edge. She might think Siobhan knows more then she's letting on / told Liza. Liza also knows Siobhan is super obsessed with sleep topics. She has been asking Liza for help with the shaman dream walking topic right? Also... Didn't they literally find a dead shaman a few chapters back. Liza knows Siobhan casts a nightmare protection spell on her self when she sleeps. Liza also knows that Siobhan wanted to make a spell to reduce time spent sleeping. Liza also knows that Siobhan wanted a bunch of extra test done on her sleeping ravens. (When Siobhan was worried after he shadow got free she asked Liza for even more test on the ravens if I remember right?) Siobhan also taught Liza the nightmare protection spell. Liza also knows that Siobhan really wanted to talk to the crazy guy in the hospital. This sleep topic plus the dead shaman should be setting off some alarms for Liza. IMO

Alex

Amber the Aberrant? Are we talking about her shadow? If so it could be much older then she is. Passed down through her family. It could know a ton of things that she doesn't know. Like that the mines were slowly going to dry up over the generations.

Alex

Bear let out a deep, rumbling growl, staring over the edge of the table at Turner, who shrank back, chastened. Was rereading the chapter. Anyone think the youth spell in addition to making bear get younger maybe also caused Bear to get smarter and actually understands words?

Alex

That's an interesting idea. Reading your comment made we wonder about the shared look between Gera and Deidre. Gera was the one who made up the story about the boon when showing up to help Sebastien - text in later chapters suggests she wasn't sure if Sebastien was a shape-changed Raven Queen or not. Gera may have shared that info with Deidre. I'm not sure what Liza thinks, but Liza has seen that all of Siobahn's disguises are costumes, not actual shape changing.

Melinda Hutson

I think Liza smiled because she knows the 'boon of anti-divination' people are attributing to the Raven Queen is something that she gave Siobhan/Sebastian. With the disks implanted in Siobhan/Sebastion, remember? Also, doesn't Liza know that Siobhan and Sebastian are the same person?

Jack

I just feel like Liza spent the entire time trying very hard not to facepalm.

JKlarinet

Gera said, “But she places special importance on Sebastien Siverling. We…” She shared a look with Deidre. “Well, we do not know why. However, she has bestowed upon him a boon of anti-divination, and she admitted before the Red Guard that they have some sort of special connection.” Liza looked down and raised her fingertips to her mouth, but it didn’t completely cover the secret, amused twitching of her lips. I wonder if Liza had an amused thought thinking Siobhan is dating Sebastien in secret. "special connection.”

Alex

The other interesting thing is she described the downfall of monarchy pretty accurately. When people learn they understand why the nobility is vulnerable. When the nobility fails to uphold their implicit side of the bargain during say a famine or massive upheaval the people can organize to resist. The nobility currently tend to their petty feuds and economic maneuvering ignoring the reality of the earth on which they stand. This blindness to the ephemeral nature of their power, to planting a garden of sticks, leads them to die in revolution. If she can create a simply educated underclass she can shatter their power without lifting a finger.

Alexander Dupree

The Undreaming Order is just the YT channel Pitch Meeting for her subconscious.

Alexander Dupree

Huh, honestly I got the chronology pretty wrong on this. Siobhan didn't learn about the celerium mines running dry until well after she wrote the letter.t I was thinking that these little references were a natural result of something that her mind was already working on, and just naturally and subtly made their way into her writing... But she didn't know about it, which also means that Amber the Aberrant would not have known of it either.🤔🤔🤔 I'm gonna have to re-read.

Keid

“We should keep an eye on Sebastien”. If they do find out Sebastien and the Raven Queen are the same person that confirms their thoughts that she can shapeshift. It would in turn strengthen their devotion. Also could link in nicely with the Heir plot line. They will basically see it as the Raven Queen taking over the city in another persona. I can easily see a path where Sebastien gets pushed as the new Heir with the crown dying from Lacers curse. A common ground ally of both the stag / Oliver and the Sebastien's thirteen crown school friends. Oliver's accidental made up Nobel linage of Sebastien being descended from a kings blood line. Sebastien will do it to save his friends from Oliver's over throw of the thirteen crowns. When / if Oliver dose start his plot Sebastien's friends are at serious risk. Oliver will accept it because he (I think he is in love with her to some degree) or will learn to trust her. Its a middle ground where both sides can have someone they trust in power. Without destroying each other and the city. Though I imagine some of the 13 crowns will get killed off in the struggle for power. Sebastien a descendant of the old King. The rightful Heir. But also a orphan of the streets. A man who ate rats to survive. A man of the people. Now popular with the population for punching the pretentious Pendragons in the face. “And punched him in the face,” Enforcer Turner repeated, grinning. “Just from hearing that, I feel he’s fifteen percent more likable. We could definitely be friends.” To quote this chapter "the last verse is predicting poverty, famine, and violence. I mean, hopefully it’s…exaggerated?” A population experiencing that is prime to overthrow their government. Sebastien taking over seems like the logical solution for both sides. And is know to be supported by the Raven Queen. To also quote the newspaper from chapter 184 "The High Crown had declared that he was taking measures to ensure the safety of the city and its people, and so the Raven Queen would probably be caught or killed soon. Or she would kill and eat the High Crown and take his place, starting a new regime of bird worship." The high crown said it was going to "ensure the safety of the city and its people" If the city under goes poverty, famine, and violence. Finds out that instead of prepping for protecting the population they instead "Thirteen Crowns, have been stockpiling celerium and powerful components" Meanwhile the Raven Queen is actually doing stuff with both the Stag and the undreaming order to "ensure the safety of the city".

Alex

Or strengthen the house of cards even more. “We should keep an eye on Sebastien”. If they do find out Sebastien and the Raven Queen are the same person that confirms their thoughts that she can shapeshift. Also could link in nicely with the Heir plot line. They will basically see it as the Raven Queen taking over the city in another persona. I can easily see a path where Sebastien gets pushed as the new Heir with the crown dying from Lacers curse. I'm going to write another comment to flesh out my thoughts.

Alex

"Maybe some kind of rewards and recognition program meant to increase our members’ sense of loyalty and belonging. I don’t want to tell everyone that the Raven Queen plans to teach them magic. We want people who are here for the right reasons, not a sense of greed.” “Maybe a ranking or badge system for various contributions and achievements?” How cool would it be that the members "representing the most dedicated members of the Undreaming Order" show up to the light refining routine everyday. Since the light refining takes a ton of time to get good at and do everyday, improving them over time. Only the most dedicated would gain power. The more dedicated would gain the most power. Think I wrote about this in a comment before at some point.

Alex

I really want one of the "basic meditations" to be the light refining movement technic. The Flock does the morning light refining routine together. A big Yoga / Tai Chi session class. Everyone thinks that it's a bit silly but it slowly improves them. Then months later the followers realize it's actually doing something. Slowly changing them. Slowly making the whole order stronger. To quote chapter 184 "I am a changeling like the seasons, A daughter of shadow and light" The Raven queen is a daughter of both the Shadow and light. Meditations for her followers that lead to skills with both would link in so nicely. Add in the shadow spell. The dark breath potion. The less sleep needed raven spells. I just love the idea. It would also link in with her mythos of when they were in the cave jails. The raven queen wasn't effected by the Radiance cell. Chapter 178 “A shadow is always darkest against the light,” Deidre said as if reciting something.

Alex

I don't think she has realized quite as much as others seem to think. I have two options for what is going on in Liza's head, but I'm not sure which I consider to be more likely. 1. As someone who has never actually met Sebastien as far as I can remember, and who knows that Siobhan is actually pretty great with ordinary physical disguises, she thinks that Sebastien is actually just a rather good physical disguise that Siobhan has managed to pull off through a combination of being raised by a conman, skill with stage makeup, and the sheer audacity of being the last person people would suspect of being the Raven Queen. She knows that Siobhan has fooled all of these people with makeup and prosthetics before. Women disguising themselves as men to access resources is not particularly outlandish, and we have many stories of it and real-life examples (though most of the real-life examples were probably doing it because they were trans). I would expect it isn't that rare of a story in their universe either. Especially given that Sebastien is, according to the rumors, a young, pretty, skinny, beardless man that nobody had ever heard of before. 2. Siobhan came to her with like a 80% complete sleep proxy spell, and Liza herself taught her quite a bit about sympathetic/binding magic. It is possible that Liza simply sees a way, given how her wards were designed, that Siobhan might've linked herself and Sebastien and extended the ward, in part, to him, while also strengthening it, by offering a secondary target that helps confuse divinations. In this case, she thinks her friend did something clever, but not actually terribly surprising. I'm kinda evenly split on which one of these it might be. Either one of these would fit her smirk.

Keid

Yeah that is a good point I don’t remember if it was ever explicitly stated what was the content of the notes that S traded to Liza.

Rafał Trzeciak

To furiousDees comment and others. Liza also got copies of Miradin’s journals on making artifacts as payment. Which if I remember right Sihoban said were over her head and that she didn't understand them. There could be clues in those notes about the shape shifting amulet since it was with the journals when they got stolen right? Makes sense that the notes might be related to an amulet that Miradin was working on. The shapeshifting amulet that was with the journal. Sihoban may have exposed herself without knowing by giving over the notes to Liza that she didn't fully understand.

Alex

I need to do a reread. Siobhans subconscious mind aka her shadow aberrant helper trapped / placed in her mind.

Alex

She also knows Sihoban has access to one of Miradin’s journals and could have gotten a method out of there.

FuriousDee

Lacer duplicating a is interesting theory but there might be slight timeline issue. S asked Liza about the ward inspection after the heavily publicised Sebastian’s ‘duel’ with the Aberant. This is not necessarily an issue but in Liza’s mind that would also have to suggest close relationship with Lacer from very early on which doesn’t seem right to me. The Shapeshifting rumours could be a clue a for Liza that let her go in that direction but Liza herself impersonated the RQ which started rumours that RQ can be in multiple places at once so I’m not sure if that would be enough.

Rafał Trzeciak

Or she has had suspicions since die heard the shape-shifting rumors.

Stefanie

I know that Siobahn asked Liza about having "someone" examine the ward back in a previous book. And she'll know from learning about the Red Guard meeting that Lacer is involved. She might think Lacer duplicated the ward for his apprentice and just attributed it to the Raven Queen. Particularly since the group is speculating that Lacer set up the duel and that Sebastien had no clue about it.

Melinda Hutson

Well that’s the thing I got the impression from the story that full body transformation is pretty much impossible using current advancements in Sorcery. I don’t believe that even during a Blood Empire feat like that was possible(I can be wrong so if someone has a chapter that contradicts this please let me know). So to a reader it may look like obvious logical leap but from Liza’s perspective a Grandmaster who herself is on the cutting edge of Sorcerous developments not mention a blood mage. It can be very difficult to even conceive that a new sorcerer like S could achieve such a feat. It is similar to will splitting and Lacer - he believed that it is impossible. He was adamant in this believe until he witnessed it first hand. On the other hand if she really suspects that S transforms into a male body than I would suspect a shocked or at least contemplative reaction rather than amused smile. Similarly to the reaction she had when S demonstrated ability to imbue her words with will without casting during the Black Wastes survivor interview.

Rafał Trzeciak

I didn't even think of this. Like, the idea that Sebastian and Siobhan are the same is still technically far fetched, when she doesn't know about the amulet. Plus, while she knows Siobhan is full of hot air, Sebastian is surrounded by crown family and Lacer. She could think they would have uncovered his identity.

Empressive

Well she might now...

Enif

Agreed on all points. I imagine an unchecked religion can give rise to some mightily powerful individuals. I wonder if other parts of the world exploit this fact.

Enif

I think she just straight up suspects Sebastian is Siobhan. Though she may not know how.

Enif

It is explicitly stated in this chapter.

Hibou Ronchon

I wonder what Liza’s thought process is here? - Liza created anti divination ward for S. - The ward is inside the S’s body. - How the hell did she bestow this as a boon? Did she cut out the discs and copied the discs? If so how Sebastian didn’t realise that he was cut open? If he does realise why he didn’t say anything? The ward is Grandmaster level work, how is she capable of replicating it even with working example? Did she asked someone else to help? If so why she just wouldn’t ask me? There is so many questions here Liza can ask based on that boon. Unless she will simply assume that S created a poor copy of her original work and just ignores it - this would explain the smile - ‘“boon’”what a joke, probably some poor imitation based on my work’

Rafał Trzeciak

Siobhan: This free-writing potion will let me just quickly scribble out some spooky shit without being too embarrassed to put it to paper, it's brilliant! Siobhan's subconscious mind: Oh, you wanna write down creepy stuff? Well, in terms of spooky stuff, here's some flowery references to the situations you've been worried about lately and what you might on your most arrogant day hope to do in response! Siobhan: Oh, it's complete nonsense! Perfect! The Undreaming Order: We've cracked the code! What a clever way to communicate her intentions to the people! I love it.

Keid

TFC I keep waiting for a Thadeus POV chapter, but this one was great

Chumpchump

Especially if Siobhan then drops her knowledge of the aberrant cataclysm and celerium shortage onto Liza.

Apep

As much as I prefer the S and Damien chapters, these respites are great for recontextualising information. Especially the lullaby, which was spoken before we learnt of the importance of lucid dreaming and the dream world. Liza interpreting the Raven Queen’s boon is great too.

James Barclay

Re-reading this, Liza definitely figured it out (though I honestly suspect she might have known already.) I do think she'll keep the secret, if only because Siobhan being the Raven Queen is far more useful than her being herself. I do wonder if she'll even bring it up though. Liza seems the type to keep to herself.

Empressive

I did NOT expect a Gera chapter today, and I must say that I am delighted. Seeing the Order's machinations when Siobhan is not there is definitely interesting.

Empressive

Ooh boy, this progresses a lot of plot lines: - The thirteen pointed star is becoming real, a secret order that respects Sebastien. - Liza figures out Siobhan is Sebastien and can help figure out her amulet. - If the order recruits, they may collect the shaman and ex-Red-Guard member Siobhan wanted to meet. - Siobhan now has a revolution in her back pocket. - If the High Crown cracks down on the Order, he may immediately and mysteriously die (if Lacer's threat wasn't a bluff). Other thoughts: Siobhan has already proven good at teaching magic. Given the way Thaddeus and the Red Guard have reacted to the idea of her intentionally starting a religious movement, I wonder if religion carries some especially dangerous prospects in the realm of the common consciousness that backs transmogrification. The idea of prophecy comes up once again. Siobhan doesn't give prophecies, obviously, but if writing under the autography potion allows her aberrant to write, that's a lot more ominous. There's one other know aberrant prophecy-giver, after all. But maybe the Order is just reading too deeply.

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David Gustin

expected, from >unnecessary comma Thanks for the chapter!

FeelingsandFoibles

Reminder, does Liza already know about Siobhan being Sebastian?

QueenHearts

“We should keep an eye on Sebastien”. I’m too tired to comment coherently about the rest of the chapter but I feel like this is the careless elbow moving in slow motion towards this beautifully fragile house of cards.

Hannah

I love this organization development. I'm sensing a hidden organization vibes where the leaders of the organization meet and coordinate in the dream world, able to do so from anywhere in the world.

Lucius

Nice change of view... I expect Liza to have a word with Siobhan .. its going to be great, I wonder if this will be the start of the Raven Queen's Academy of Practical Magic

Jim A

The retaliation from Osham in response to the Architect's attack.

FuriousDee

This chapter feels a bit like the scenes in overlord, where the floor guardians are sure Ainz has a plan! Now the question is which character here is Demiurge.

Jeremy Effinger

Given that they are still expecting the raven queen to take revenge on the high crown, he is absolutely going to die from the curse Thadeus placed on him, maybe while opposing the raven queen but honestly even if not people will probably still blame her for the things they don't understand like usual. Also, it is interesting that Lisa is involved with the undreaming order.

FuriousDee

Well, Liza has definitely connected the dots here, it's going to be interesting. At least Siobhan has someone grounded in reality participating, Liza must think the other are crazy/very delusional. And embarrassing the high crown on behalf of the raven queen... what could go wrong for Siobhan ?!

Adspartan

Well how big of a shitstorm do you have in store for us you been alluding to something coming since the last two books

frankie doerr

:)

ShadyTundra

Gera POV ? :o Now that's a surprise ! And damn, right to the spicy stuff :p

Adspartan


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