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Breaking Bad (Season 5 - Episode 4)

Hey Rangers, here is another episode of breaking bad hope you guys enjoy our reaction!

Breaking Bad (Season 5 - Episode 4)

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I’m going to stick with this until the day I die…. Team Walt over Team Skyler any day! Now, with that being said I am pretty much team “anybody else” over Walt. But when it comes to Skyler I can never feel entirely bad for her. No matter how good she is most of the time and no matter how bad Walt is most of the time I cannot look past their original sins. Walters original sin was breaking the law so that he could provide money for his family after he dies from cancer. A very bad thing to do but admirable that he would do anything for his family. Skyler’s original sin was cheating on Walt for spite. She learned that he was breaking the law to provide a future for her and the kids, and her response was “I guess I’ll just fuck my boss”…… Walter has done truly terrible things since the beginning, but I can’t fault him for how he started. Meanwhile, Skyler intentionally wanted to hurt Walt…

Aaron Boone

Since you wanna go, then let's break this down... "He bullies the mother of his children" - Walt has been nothing but easy on Skyler since the beginning. Skyler has done the bullying. It's shown in the Pilot very clearly that she enjoys being with a man she can easily dominate. That is why, even though they are both criminals, she chooses Walt over Ted because Ted doesn't listen to her. Skyler is a selfish control freak who has to get her way no matter what. This also shows when she doesn't even let Walt buy a nice car for his son without her approval. Walt never wanted her in this life yet she basically forced herself into it. Also in the pilot, Walt couldn't be out all day and come home at night without Skyler riding him about it. "Buys a fancy car because he's feeling insecure" - So what, everyone who's got a nice car is insecure? People like you blame Walt's ego and pride on everything. In my eyes, he probably bought it for himself because he started to enjoy the power/money he started to get. "He wants chocolate cake for his Birthday & that his wife is forced to organize" - Why shouldn't he want it? You saw the party Skyler had for him in the pilot right? He was probably used to his wife doing all the caretaking, and she probably had no problem doing it... For a week and emasculated man... But she drew the line when she realized that she wasn't in control of him anymore. "Walt is become stupider, more insecure, and more of a loser etc." Well, I guess you think Walt was better off in the pilot right? Completely emasculated by his wife and brother-in-law, a dead-end job with a dead-end life. He was a complete ghost. In my eyes, Walt is not better or worse off now than he was in the beginning. Both lives are horrible, one maybe more than the other, but neither is a good life to live, or maybe you would enjoy the first one. "Shouting at your wife makes you a badass" - He probably shouted at his Wife 2 times throughout the entire show. Compared to Skyler, he was the better spouse. That is what's incredible to me, even though Walt does these terrible things, Skyler still comes out worse. At least Walt started this whole thing to provide for his family, he did awful things for a good reason, at least in the start. What is her excuse? To end it I wanna say this. Walt has never done and never did anything the cartel or Gus wouldn't do. Everybody hates Walt but gives the cartel and Gus a pass just because they are "cool guys". Gus is a sadist who did everything for something as petty as revenge, who manipulated Walt back into the meth business even though he didn't want to, and talking about killing innocents, Gus was gonna wipe out Walt's entire family and probably would have Mike do it. And the cartel... Well, we all know the problem with them. Walt is a bad guy I know, but everyone in this show is bad. That's the point of it. If that is selling drugs, asking for beer like Flynn did, or stealing like Marie did, everyone is bad. The "only" good guy is probably Hank, although he also did some bad things hunting "Heisenberg". At least Walt is embracing the business. Instead of pretending it's all about taking care of the family. He is embracing the fact that he is a drug lord. Taking more charge of the household, buying a car, etc. Thats why I said Walt is becoming more and more badass. You probably think Gus is badass right, but not Walt. Why? They are pretty much no different.

TyPan

I stood up and applauded when Shoshanna said that.

Mark

Like I said Walt’s character includes Heisenberg and they have shown they don’t like Walt even when he’s Heisenberg. this is why I said “y’all really don’t like Walt.” And it looks like your scraping the bottom of the barrel for a argument if your pointing out a missing hyphen that’s not even needed because you can still easily understand the message, this ain’t English class bro. Also if I wanted to be brave I would’ve called you a dumbass but I know you or someone in the community would’ve wanted to censor.

s0l0 !

Facts.

Yess... Cuban B

xanax, or indica

Martin

Nah your point was "damn y'all really don't like walt". Also "simple-minded" should be hyphenated, just a heads up for next time you want to be brave online

Martin

It was always meant as stopping the marriage, i confused myself when I responded to your comment which was based on a premise I didn’t even make. As I’ve said, turning informant would probably get her killed just like you said. But, she absolutely could have divorced Walt. Yes, Walt can kill her easily, but he has no reason to, if she just divorces him. Walt doesn’t have a blind bloodlust. He’d treat Skyler no differently than Jesse at the minimum in that situation.

Harry

That’s no excuse for Skylar to help Walt commit crimes, Walt never forced her to do anything, he even signed the divorce papers for her but she wasn’t willing to do the right thing and protect her kids because she was worried about her self image.

s0l0 !

Obviously he’s joking that’s why he mentions it’s just a show. he’s just been watching a little too much of the boys

s0l0 !

my point is people prefer Walt when he is in Heisenberg mode, and I simply separated the personalities for a hypothetical poll. Either your too simple minded to understand or you are purposely trying to manipulate my point to debunk it.

s0l0 !

What did she do to feed into Walt's behaviour?

Martin

No you didn't "actually mean that", you've just changed your argument. You wrote a second comment clarifying exactly what you meant. "If she played it smart" Look, its easy to watch the show, not think too hard about it, and say that people could easily solve things if they were smarter. But your first idea "turn informant" wasn't smart. Your second idea to divorce Walter isn't smart either because Walter would easily find her. You think she'd be harder to kill than Gus?

Martin

Your original comment says "Y'all dont like Walt" and now you are saying people would not vote for Walt, they would vote for Heisenberg, so you don't like Walt either?I think you've gone away from your original point. Heisenberg is just a name Walter uses. You were confused that we don't like Walt. Of course we don't, he's awful. The whole point of the show is that the main character is a bad guy. We still enjoy the show though, obviously.

Martin

^^^ 💯

Tia

As long as you admit Skylar is not the good character here even compared to Walt because not did she cheat on him as petty revenge but now she’s feeding into his lies and meth business waiting for him to die of cancer, wow she must really care about Walt and the family lol.

s0l0 !

Walt is not the good guy but Skylar is definitely not good either. she acts like a victim but feeds into Walt’s behavior and instead of doing something about it she hopes for his death. Hank is the main overall good guy in the show

s0l0 !

TV show or not, your suggestion of murdering an innocent wife for complaining too much is still pretty disturbing. It doesn't even make sense in the context of the show or with Walt's character.

imperial

Yeah because it’s Walt’s story, just because the show doesn’t focus on Gus’s past and current story doesn’t mean he hasn’t done some pretty terrible things to stay in power, especially since his was in the game way longer than Walt.

s0l0 !

I promise if they do a poll for who people prefer Walt or Heisenberg, even with this biased community against Walt, the majority of people would pick Heisenberg.

s0l0 !

It's the level of manipulation that Walt does with the people he ostensibly loves. That's the difference. On top of putting them all in danger. Everything Hank went through alone even is because of Walt.

Yess... Cuban B

The BB timeline is always crazy to me, because it's only been a year since the entire series started. With all that's happened? Geeze LaRue. Lydia is such a neurotic mess, that it's actually quite funny. I know people like her irl. Seems like a horrible way to live. But I guess that's why Xanax was invented, amirite? ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠˘⁠_⁠˘⁠)⁠┌ And yeah, Skylar should've listened to her lawyer that time. Best advice she could've gotten.

Yess... Cuban B

Buddy, I don’t think you really paid attention to the show at all. I mean Skylar did a lot of stuff but Walt needs to take some accountability. The Ted situation is not nearly as bad as the stuff that Walt was getting into. Walt is not a hero and we should not feel sympathy! Skylar is bad, but come on now lol

Daunte Johnson

I agree that she was compliant with everything and she’s definitely not innocent, but we cant act like Skylar is not a victim of Walt’s lies and deceit at least to some extent. Imagine you’re just a regular housewife and then you find out that your husband is a meth cook who is deeply involved in an entire drug operation. Also, are we seriously thinking that Walt would let her go to the police like that. Skylar had many chances to get out yes, but it’s not like Walt would’ve made it easy for her to just leave either

Daunte Johnson

Ok but you also have to understand that it’s not that black and white either. I mean we can’t act like Walt didn’t have a hold over Skylar for a lot of her involvement. The man literally forced himself back into the house more than once and lied/manipulated her multiple times. Also, it’s not that simple when you have kids and a brother law that’s with DEA. I mean who knows how that would’ve played out if she just came clean with everything

Daunte Johnson

Yeah but its also a TV SHOW so ... not real

Dan Sopranos

Actually, what i meant by put a stop is to put a stop to their marriage, not the meth business. You're right, turning informant would have probably just gotten herself killed but then again there's Hank. If she played it smart and worked with Hank, it's not unthinkable that it could have worked but knowing Gus probably not. She could have always divorced him though as per that lawyer's advice when she was considering it in the show

Harry

According to half the comments, Walt is the good guy and Skylar is the villain 🤣🤣🤣

Martin

Turn informant and get killed. Witness protection takes weeks, and that's when they already have a case against whoever you are informing on.

Martin

Are you sure that's not just when you like him the most?

Martin

Well you’re the one suggesting he should have killed his wife, so. Scary.

Tia

breaking bad is clear of the boys and gen vvvvvvv

Will Woods

Walt is hands down the greatest on screen villain of all time next to heath legders joker and Gus. The whole show is his villain origin story and how he becomes a true evil piece of shit. The acting between him and Skylar in the bedroom is some of the best of the whole show. Having watched this show so many times i just feel so bad for her now. You just see how trapped she is but youre 100% right. She should have gotten the fuck out. I cant wait to see you guys react to the rest. I fucking love this show and this final run of 16 episodes is just so fucking incredible

Brandon L Bevilacqua

Turn informant

Harry

Wow stand back folks we got a deep one here Now dont you kids try this deep watch like this guy here Hes a professional

Dan Sopranos

She encouraged his meth business by helping him launder money and feeding into his cover ups even when Walt told her not to. If she really cared about him and the family she would’ve brought him to justice or just finished the divorce a long time ago.

s0l0 !

And that’s exactly why fans and most people like him the most, when he goes full Heisenberg.

s0l0 !

Walt is smart, and a pretty good strategist. But strategy is easy when you you've got nothing to lose like Walt

Martin

My interpretation is that Walt is gaslighting her. He is bullying her, killing people, and pretending like everything is normal. He thinks only of himself (and his birthday cake). The argument after the pool, where he explains how none of Skylar's plans to leave will work, show that he has her trapped. Skylar is trapped by a murderer, who is willing to lock her in a hospital and take her children from her if she acts against him. I think she doesn't know how to exist in this false world that Walter has created. Only weeks ago, assassins were sent to kill her children. Walter leasing those two cars show he's not being cautious at all, no matter his weak reasoning. Him laughing along to the carnage in Scarface show that he likes violence. Him offering to teach Walter Jr how to do burnouts show that he's happy to bring crime into the family. These are all small things, but they're in the show for a reason.

Martin

And at the end of the day Walt out smarted Gus and killed him by using Gus’s ego and anger

s0l0 !

facts, Martin if it’s for the family, you can do absolutely anything you want and shouldn’t have consequences ☝🏾🤓

Tia

s0l0 ! hey as long as you acknowledge his actions aren’t justifiable. bc to me it seems like ppl support that behavior which makes me question how they are morally irl. i love walt as a character bc it’s intriguing to see his development and bryan cranston protrays that beautifully, but as a character he’s a major d-bag

Tia

How could she have put a stop to it early on? She's never had any leverage

Martin

I like Walt, he's an entertaining character. But he's a weak, bad person. He betrays his friends. He bullies his wife. At least Gus had his own sense of honour. Gus wasn't a hypocrite, or weak. Gus would never have treated Max the way Walter treats Skylar.

Martin

Don't worry, they're all just young men under 20 who are watching this on a surface level, like I was when it came out.

Martin

What did she encourage?

Martin

Tianna don't forget, he only poisoned brock to protect his family! That makes it okay. He's also going to be SUPER careful to conduct his meth business in a way that introduces no danger to his family. Walter White: Super safe and cool badass family man.

Martin

Skyler has kept making the same one big mistake which is this idea that if she leaves Walt and hands him over, she destroys the family and the kids will never forgive her. Her failure to understand that it’s Walt who already destroyed the family with his choices and her lack of courage is what’s destroyed her. Time and time again, she had clear moments to draw a line and put a stop but she always caved and lacked the courage. And since then, she’s become a part of it, helping to launder the money, lying to Hank and Marie and the kids, committing accounting fraud and even sending men to intimidate Ted which led to his disability. Alternatively, she could have gone to Hank, separated from Walt and taken custody of the kids all this time. But now, she’s in this “in-between” world which is her personal hell for failing to act on time

Harry

exactly also it adds more depth to the show, people be getting to separated from the fact that it's a show, it's not going To be exactly like real life and it's still a realistic scenario and show in general, just because it's not something you would personally do doesn't make it less realistic in general and for the specific character archetypes in the show.

s0l0 !

which if you don't like walt you would be mad at Skylar for defending walt. you can't hate walt now and think Skylar is the victim when she defended and even encouraged his behavior.

s0l0 !

I think walt's overall shift to become more menacing and willing to sacrifice more of his morals like Gus is what makes him more of a boss in the drug game, obviously none of his actions are justifiable but entertainment wise I respect the hustle.

s0l0 !

damn y'all really don't like walt, meanwhile y'all was rooting for gus up to his death.

s0l0 !

People in these comments honestly scare me

Tia

Probably when he poisoned Brock, Martin. I know that reeled in a lot of walt supporters smh

Tia

Cyanide on the kids too? Maybe he should get them to sell his product instead, he would make more money

Martin

Also worth remembering that only 12 months have passed since Season 1. Jesse seems to not be growing fast as a character until you remember this.

Martin

She took the money so that the IRS wouldn't discover Walter's meth business.

Martin

Which part do you find badass? The bit where he bullies the mother of his children? Or the bit where he buys a fancy car because he's feeling insecure? Or the part where he wants chocolate cake for his Birthday, where no friends attend? That his wife is forced to organise. Walt is become stupider, more insecure, and more of a loser as the show goes on. He has no one. His only friendship is based on a lie. He's a weak, dying old man, desperate to feel powerful at everyone else's expense. But I guess if you think putting on a cool hat and shouting at your wife makes you a badass, then sure.

Martin

She was doing Ted's books or taxes or wat ever because was working there b4 she found out how walt was making his money and she took the money to pay that off for Ted stuff if Walt didn't have it she would've been in jail and then Walt signed the divorce paper y she didn't turn them in and left the relationship right ? She didn't she pulled him back in to pay for hank then wanted to get a car wash and all that stuff when she could've been out of it but still went to jail behind Ted's stuff if walt didn't have the money and Walt signed the divorce papers y didn't she turn them in and leave she pulled him back in the family with payn for hank injuries then wanted to get tha car wash so tell me y should I care about how Skylar is feeling in the episode because Walt was out and just wanted to take care of his kids??

jrome reacts

you gotta remember that jesse is a former drug addict well most of the show he was still using and in his early 20’s he’s not gonna make the best mature decisions i’m not defending the morally bad decisions he’s made but he has come a long way i agree but i never thought of him as just a tool moving the plot forward i always saw him as a main character next to walt

Alex

Like who exactly, Walt has a massive ego and is a huge narcissist, what women would want to be with him, it’s amazing that Skyler is still with him

Theo Sebuliba

She doesn’t want to put walt in jail because if she told them what walt has done then hanks career is done the biggest meth cook was his brother in law he’d be finished just like how hanks boss had to resign after they found out about gus was right under their nose too

Alex

Walt should have used that Cyanide on Skylar and got rid of her complaining ass Then with him being rich he could have gotten a new wife A better one

Dan Sopranos

How would she be in jail with Ted? If Walt had just taken Gretchen and Elliot's job offer instead of deciding to cook meth with his former student, Skylar and Walt would have had a happy life and she never would have had any need to get a job at Beneke and start her affair and help Ted cook his books.

Land Howard Johnston

It may be a bit of a reach but as Skyler is staring off into the pool, Walt is talking about the first week of his chemotherapy and lying down on the cool tile floor in the bathroom while Skyler comforts him could be a reference to Ted's bathroom and the contrast of how Skyler liked his heated floors at first but then after the talk with Marie on the phone and after looking at the bag of money again etc. Without realizing it prior... it gets her rethinking why he did what he did and so she then puts the towel down on Ted's floor to stand on instead. That was before Walt killed Fring... and in just two scenes after the pool scene Walt tells Skyler: "I can promise you Gus Fring is dead. He was the threat, he was the danger". Skyler brings up Beneke in that scene too- while having no means of an out, an escape to come up with a better plan than Walt's for getting the kids to leave their environment. She's feeling the regret about the choices she's made. She feels engulfed. I think the blue pool symbolizes Walt's product (the pool being cool in temperature) and how Skyler is drowning in it. (there's a lot of emphasis on pools in later episodes) She's probably thinking about all the decisions she's made that's led up to this point- the back-and-forths with Walt, she wants an escape but is instead consumed by it- almost to say she'd rather die more or less than go on with this any longer. To make it worse she doesn't know Hank & Marie know about the "affair"

Justin

oook stefanie

Justin

3 episodes per week is fine. 2 are not enough imo

Stefanie

And if I wasn't for Walt she would probably be in jail herself with Ted

jrome reacts

I don't feel sorry for Skylar cause she brought him back him with payn for hank medical bills and then when Walt was about to leave she stole all the money she got to involved so all her feeling and decisions is her fault

jrome reacts

Skyler right to be scared . Her acting is award winning worthy in the bedroom Scene . I like seeing Skyler and Walt power struggle I guess . Her and His acting is top shelf . Skyler Walt Jessie and Hank they the OG crew of coarse when they together they make magic on the screen . I agree with you about them four .

Tjbosslyfe

The thing is that the show is following Walt’s perspective which makes sense since he’s the main character, so any other main character on the show is basically a side story or character like you said, if the show was through Skyler or hanks perspective, it would be viewed a lot differently

Theo Sebuliba

I think most of the Skylar hate comes from this episode, especially with people that like Breaking Bad for the season five Heisenberg. Through her you see the repercussions of everything that makes Walt hate able. She adds a depth to the story that may make some people uncomfortable. For people that just want to see Breaking Bad as badass Heisenberg, which bad ass Heisenberg is a great character don’t get me wrong. But for people that just watch with that lens she’s just a really annoying side story.

Terry

I will say this, Skyler did try to divorce him and he did sign the divorce papers, the problem is the he kept coming back to the house and trying to be the father and family man when she didn’t want him to do, also there was plenty of opportunities for Walt to stop cooking meth because he had enough money but he didn’t because of his own greed and selfishness

Theo Sebuliba

Walt is becoming more and more badass gangster by every episode, and people can't handle it. Love Walt.

TyPan

“This women deserves to die as much as any man” “that’s equality” 😭😭😂

Simon

Shoshanna if you like sprinkles, google the Australian delicacy "Fairy Bread"

Martin

Nice try. We’re also watching Gen V.

Aldo Gonzales

Lmaooo dead ass hate that Walter bought those cars but that scene is so good 😂 seeing them both happy geeking over their cars

Simon

I think we should do all breaking bad until the end of season 5 because season 5 is just amazing and waiting til friday-sunday every week is stressfulll

Will Woods

JESSE!

Martin

Walt decided it was time to part ways with “Carsenberg.”

Aldo Gonzales

let’s goooo

Simon


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