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Breaking Bad (Season 4 - Episode 7)

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Breaking Bad (Season 4 - Episode 7)

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JESSE!!

Martin

Gus: I'm sure if you keep digging you'll find me.

Martin

🤣 Vravo Bince

Justin

I get that sentiment, the comments weren’t even defending Jesse though at all, Vince said in season 3 that he’s trying to be consistent with the characters but when he tries to compare Jesse to Gus is when he loses me because Gus has done way worse than Jesse that’s all, it also feels like they’re not hating on Walter as much compared to Jesse, but I digress, they’re deep into the show so at this point whatever I say falls on death ears

Theo Sebuliba

EXACTLY! The whole reason I watch reaction videos and sub to Patreon accounts is because I love the emotional investment from people reacting to my favorite shows for the first time. The same emotional investment that I have. It's like getting to relive these moments for the first time again. That's what good TV and film are all about. Why even watch these reactions if the didn't take these reactions "too seriously"? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Yess... Cuban B

Saying he’s a good dude may be an overstatement but the comments justifying or defending Jesse is what I’m saying is causing all the hate for Jesse

Terry

Jesse is literally dealing with the trauma of killing GALE. Unlike Walter, who cared for like 5 seconds after killing Krazy 8. He’s actually trying to take responsibility for his actions unlike the other bad guys who don’t care when they do something wrong. Sheesh. The Walter love is so weird bruh.

Tia

Walt isn't the only one breaking bad in this series. Jessie started off as a relatively naive screwup. He's becoming something else entirely. As Mike pointed out, Jessie's greatest strength is his loyalty, which means Gus sees it as Jessie's greatest vulnerability. Re the Hank vs. Fring thing, Hank's a straight-up genius detective going up against a genius criminal chessmaster. Just wait. That's what I love so much about this show; it involves so many highly intelligent, deeply motivated characters.

Thaddeus Winterson

i'm with vince on this one jessie really has no excuse for his actions. Walter is also bad but he did start off with the right idea of providing for his family his wife isn't helping either

Ahmad Pattonbey

It’s just an observation that I’ve noticed tbh, I said in an earlier comment that it feels like Vince’s hate for Jesse runs way deeper than on the surface level, maybe he knew people like Jesse in real life I’m just guessing though I have no idea

Theo Sebuliba

they’ve hated on walt a lot but for a while it seems like they’ve calmed down on the hate and moved more towards jesse but yea ik what you mean theo it’s gonna be crazy here soon honestly waiting for them to pull something random and have a different reaction than i expect but tbh they won’t

Alex

which sucks because I really loved him when I watched it for the first time and it made the show 10 times better when it did finally make me hate him so if anything they'll just start to not like the show possibly

Kyle

The show is very realistic and compelling though, but at the end of the day it’s still a show, it’s not real, in real life, Jesse and Walt wouldn’t even last 2 months dealing with criminals like Gus at all, Walt has way too much pride and Jesse isn’t cut out for the criminal world

Theo Sebuliba

Their opinions on Walt are going to change very quickly as this show goes on though I still think they don’t like Walt at all but they’re hatred for Walt is going to go way up as this show goes on

Theo Sebuliba

then again theo they might be so invested and interested in the show that they view it as real life like what if they think it’s so compelling or realistic that they have a hard time distinguishing bc they are in the moment watching it, i’m probably reaching 😂

Alex

in the beginning when they took skylar’s side i knew it was wraps 😂 i know that vince gilligan made her character so that the audience hated her even tho she acts like most spouses would in this situation realistically i’m just saying it threw me off bc usually everyone loves jesse and walt and hate skylar but they did the opposite but it seems like they’ve started to like walt more recently

Alex

It’s pretty obvious by like season 3, I’m not sure why they aren’t still understanding it

Theo Sebuliba

is that actually in the game or did vince gilligan put that in there ?

Alex

I never noticed that

Alex

it’s like they don’t understand that this isn’t a show about morally good characters it’s a show about meth of course the main characters aren’t gonna be goodie two shoes😂

Alex

Yeah that’s true, it’s just weird to me that it’s only towards Jesse and not the other characters who are way worse than Jesse, that’s what im trying to figure out

Theo Sebuliba

yea i’d say vince’s viewpoint on jesse will change by the end of the show but yea he already hates jesse so he’s got a bias towards him every time he comes on screen it’s like when you hate a person you only notice every bad thing they do you tend to not notice the good

Alex

Aint no one glorifying Jesse, we just have a good understanding of his character 🤣

Tia

When Jesse is playing the game Rage at the beginning- there is an Easter egg on the wall when he is going down the stairs. The graffiti on the wall spells 'Gale'. Jesse's problem dog speech could be Aaron's best acted scene in the series. It definitely trumps his hospital mental breakdown in 0307. I thought the acting was superior to that scene but it mostly had to do with his character's situation he was in. In the hospital he was being irrational and emotional and not thinking clearly- the show pretty much confirms this by immediately showing a mood chart right next to him and in the following scene he changes his mind about the partnership. It's weird what societies or groups deem "acceptable" after times passed especially. It feels relatable and grounded. Jesse did cross a line bringing up his daughter. Plus that was a manslaughter case not a murder case...

Justin

Me personally I know a lot of Jessie’s lol, but I still love Jessie’s character, I can put that aside from a show. Jessie’s character is amazing and has one of the best character development in all of tv, n I completely agree he’s definitely the most good of the bad but he still does some diabolical shit lol.

Simon

I wonder if he’s known someone like Jesse in his life and maybe that’s why he hates him more than any other character, I’m not really sure why he has this deep hatred for him feels like it’s way deeper than just the character, I’m just guessing because I have no idea

Theo Sebuliba

if they didn't take the show seriously the reactions would suck

Uncool Ghoul

How are we glorifying Jesse or Walt, the comment section has said multiple times that Jesse is a bad guy and he’s made terrible decisions, we were saying the Jesse in the meeting wanted to be held accountable for his actions and not be justified for it, he felt that his actions were being justified by the counselor and he didn’t want that, he wanted to be held accountable for his bad decisions by someone and that was the counselor, that’s why he said it’s about time because somebody didn’t give him an excuse to justify his actions that’s all he wanted, it was the wrong group to do it with forsure, but the gist of the scene was that he wanted to be held accountable for his bad decisions

Theo Sebuliba

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Tia

Right, all we’re saying is that Jesse is the least evil out of the main guys. He’s still not a good guy, but he does have more good guy traits than the rest of them, and that’s where the saying comes from that “walt is a bad guy pretending to be good, and jesse is a good guy pretending to be bad.” Bc Jesse isn’t cut out for the bad guy stuff like walt is. it’s not like we’re saying that jesse does nothing wrong. i just personally love when a character can recognize his faults and try to do something about it. to many of us, it’s just clear that vince dislikes jesse more than the other bad guys, which is surprising to me because I’ve never seen anyone else have that take. Idk if that’s bc Jesse is a drug addict or what, but anyways. I have hope that his thoughts may change by the end of the series, but we’ll see.

Tia

What I get out of this comment section is that people love to glorify scumbags. You can love the show and dislike the characters at the same time.

Ben Gibb

Right I said the same thing, I remember they said it in season one that it feels like they’re watching real people do this even though it’s a show and not real, in real life, Walter and Jesse wouldn’t even make it 2 months dealing with criminals like Gus especially Jesse considering the fact that he’s not really built for any of this, but yeah they take this show like it’s real even though it isn’t and they’re missing too many important points

Theo Sebuliba

It seems like y’all take this show waaaaaay too seriously, remember to enjoy it and not everyone is perfect. It’s kind of the point for them to be messed up in certains way.

Kyle

I’m not sure what comments he’s been reading but they weren’t even saying that Jesse is a good guy at all, none of the comments were trying to justify his behavior or excuse it, they were just saying that he hates on Jesse way more than Walt or Gus

Theo Sebuliba

Jesse isn’t a good dude no one on this side of the show is but he is the best of the bad guys. Vince seems to dislike Jesse more than anyone else because people are trying to portray him as a good guy when he isn’t, but there’s much more of a reason to hate Walt, Gus, or even Mike.

Terry

“A crack head that sells crack” okie dokie 👍🏾

Tia

I perfectly understand the scene , doesn’t make Jessie any better for it😂 he’s still a piece of shit, don’t get me wrong I like Jessie but I know he’s fucked up. He’s a crack head that sells crack keep trying to defend that lol

Simon

Jesse realizes he is bad. He was berating the meeting guy for giving him a pass for this long. “It’s about time”

Tim Martin

Vince is not wrong about Jesse being a shithead this episode. Yeah, he is trying to deal with having killed Gale, but Vince is absolutely correct that none of those people at that recovery meet are equipped to deal with Jesse's specific past experience, and Jesse effectively shit on a bunch of people trying to better themselves just to feel properly punished. His breakdown is something that can make us feel sympathetic to Jesse, but it is absolutley a shitty thing for him to have done. That being said, I like Jesse the most, because to me he's the best of the bad people. And arguably better than the 'good' people (like Hank). He's one of the few characters in the show that actually takes (and feels) accountability for much of his actions. (But yes, Gus is still super cool, can't deny that)

DKThunder

Im with theo

Tia

Jesse started off trying to be a good bad guy being a low level drug dealer that was his biggest mistake, and now fates dragged him into a space of being with actual bad guys and he’s not built for it and can’t handle it. He went from being one of the “biggest” bad guys in the pilot (even though he was never really that bad) to being on the bottom of the totem pole of bad guys. Although he has gotten worst out of necessity, and once again he can’t handle that. I do love Aaron Paul’s acting he really crushes this role I remember you guys talking about not seeing him in anything else, he was in an episode of Black Mirror’s most recent season.

Terry

Agreed. Been wanting that for a long time

Mark

Yeah I’m not trying to hate on Vince, but I’m not sure he gets Jesse’s character at all and I don’t think he really reads the comments because they weren’t even saying that Jesse is supposed to be a good guy. I feel like he doesn’t see other people’s perspectives unlike shoshanna who can see other people’s perspectives in the comments just my 2 cents on it

Theo Sebuliba

Jesse wants to be held accountable... and at the same time he's gravitating towards Gus which basically means taking things hes done (and supposedly wants to account for) to a whole new level. These are conflicted characters, and its perfectly fine for reactors to get more of one of side of a certain character.

Ravi

"show isn't for them". How can you be the one to decide this lol. They're already almost on the last season so it's clear they like the show. Also, you said it yourself; Walt and Jesse are complex characters. It's easy to not read into everything; especially on the first watch. People miss stuff all the time, and that's ok.

Trevor Boardman

Yeah. I really like Jesse, even Vince Gilligan said he created Jesse to be one of the moral compasses of the show. I figured it was obvious in this scene what he was doing, but I guess not lol

Tia

You must not understand what happened in that scene then

Tia

Completely agree Vince , Jessie is a straight hoe for going at that group like that, he couldn’t relate to them at all had no right to do that

Simon

Fire fucking episode 🔥 Hank is a mf dogg😂

Simon

Right his hatred for Jesse is clouding his judgement though, I feel Iike he hates Jesse more than Walt even though he did say in season 3 that he doesn’t give anyone a pass on the show, I’m so interested for the end of the show livestream because I really want to see how he views him after the show ends, I’m don’t like Jesse either, but I can clearly see that he knows that he’s a bad person and wants to be held accountable for his actions and not being justified for it, I also feel that it comes from a place of naivety as well because he said in the fly episode that he doesn’t know a world where bad people get away with doing bad stuff which speaks to how naive he really is because it happens all the time and it’s been happening forever

Theo Sebuliba

I think it’s maybe bc he seems to have a lot of disdain for Jesse so things that happen with Jess, he takes it negatively instead of more on a positive note, like the meeting was supposed to be— a way of Jesse holding himself accountable for his actions. But It is what it is at the point, I don’t even try to share my Jesse viewpoints anymore 😭😅

Tia

Walt and Jesse are the two most conflicted complex characters on the show which is why they create so much interest and are most people's favorites. if Vince can't understand that then this show is simply not for him. Jesse at that AA meeting wasn't him bragging or trying to be rude, he simply let his heart out and showed his good conflicting with his bad, and don't forget he's still going through drug addiction like everybody there so yes, he does still belong there. yeah, he's also a murder and has done a lot of bad but I'm sure the other people there has done bad stuff too because of their addiction. I mean even the AA group leader killed his own daughter.

s0l0 !

It’s their first time watching it, so I’ll cut them some slack, but l feel like they take the show way too seriously and think these are real people and it’s cloudier their judgement, the comments weren’t even saying that Jesse is a good guy or justifying his actions, the scene in the meeting was pretty much saying that Jesse wants to be held accountable for his actions and not just get away with it like he’s been doing, I don’t know how he came away with that scene thinking that Jesse was trying to justify his actions when he clearly wasn’t, I like Vince, but he clearly didn’t understand the scene at all

Theo Sebuliba

I haven't kept up with their BB reactions because I usually wait until a season is done to just go through it all at once, but this and and a few other comments have me worried they're misinterpreting some important stuff in the show. I just hope they aren't getting the wrong idea about the main characters. Haha

Jeff I.

Jesse knows he’s fucked up and that scene in the meeting is him saying that he wants to be held responsible for his bad decisions and that’s what happened in the meeting he’s been getting away with his bad decisions and he doesn’t understand why nobody holds him accountable for it even though he does, I don’t think you understood that scene at all

Theo Sebuliba

I mean at this point how don’t you guys just always keep subtitles on😂

Simon

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Dan Sopranos

Jesse is a bad person. He knows he's a bad person. He's not cut out for the criminal life. I think he said about time because he wants to be held responsible for his actions on some level. I think he was TRYING to be evil when he was trying to sell the AA meth. He is not stupid but emotionally weak and easy to manipulate.

Mark

Breaking Bad gang we back 🫶🏽

Luis Ortiz

Take 2 lets gooo😂🔥

Simon


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