Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) - Full Reaction
Added 2025-02-26 09:50:54 +0000 UTCAlright, well... that was something else. Brent was giving major Taylor vibes and then BAM, alien mutant Teletubbies??? So many questions. Definitely not as into this one as the first, that ending was a bit of a bummer and just kinda strange. Hmm, not sure how I feel about continuing the series now! I want to hear what you think about this one!
Comments
Lots of opinions on this original series. Like many products of Hollywood in those days they were to a great extent morality plays. This one is by far the worst but in my opinion none of them were that good. Low budget, poorly developed scripts, they couldn't or wouldn't even do proper cinematic lighting if you notice. Everything was done by people on drugs with no money to spend. That's the way it seemed to me anyway. This period of pop culture was scattered, everyone trying to make some higher point, try something different even it was a bad idea, etc. Not Hollywood's greatest period although there were a few that held their own. I think this space of a year or two either way was the low point of the movie industry up until just a few years ago. Hollywood has the same disease right now that it had then only now, there is a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar and they are going broke on virtue signaling. And that's the way you can think of this time, a case of rampant virtue signaling although the "virtues" were very different. They survived it financially then because they could afford to. Now they can't. I wonder what comes next? I don't mean to be political there. It's that when politics begins to impinge on the creative process, particularly in film, bad things happen and I, like you, love me a good movie. Politics ruins them, as it did here.
Bill Isaacs
2025-03-13 02:39:35 +0000 UTCIs there a reason why the reaction video is only 480p? It's not in high definition like your other videos.
Crymson Vega
2025-03-06 03:59:07 +0000 UTCCompletely agree - those sequels weren't very popular or successful at the time, and don't contribute anything interesting to the lore/worldbuilding.
Jason Scott
2025-03-04 17:48:51 +0000 UTC3 is barely watchable. 4 and 5 are so terrible. I just can't get past thinking about all the time wasted on these. There are thousands of hours of movies to see and other than the original Planet of the Apes there's just no reason to lose hours of your life to the original series. It's not worth the time.
James Melton
2025-03-04 02:01:50 +0000 UTCJust finished watching...thoughts, Cass? đ€Łđ€Ł
Brodie Vickers
2025-03-03 16:48:44 +0000 UTCThat said, in an early-ish episode of Futurama which features mutants living under 'New New York'. They happen to worship an nuclear bomb, which is a sly reference to this movie. - "Wow! You guys worship an unexploded nuclear bomb?" "Yeah, but nobody's that observant. It's mainly a Christmas and Easter thing." - I live for that đ
Brodie Vickers
2025-03-03 14:49:25 +0000 UTCI enjoyed this a lot more when I was a kid, and that was just because the sequel turned out to be more violent. As a teenage boy I was all for it đI'm a bit older and looking at it now, definitely one of the worst from the franchise. Though Cornelius & Zira (Roddy McDowall & Kim Hunter) are always a delight. Coming up next, I think "Escape" is either on par, or even better than the original movie. Followed closely by a pretty good follow up, then I think you can just about get away with skipping "Battle".
Brodie Vickers
2025-03-03 14:32:46 +0000 UTCyou got to jump to the new franchise, its done differently. starting with, The Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
Jimmy Reyes
2025-03-02 22:29:38 +0000 UTCIMO only the first was a good film. This one is just barely tolerable. The next starts with an absurd sci-fi concept which is unfortunate, however it has a better story than this one. After the third the quality completely drops off a cliff. Also I love Brent as Taylor 2.0.
James Melton
2025-03-02 17:43:43 +0000 UTCHi Cassie! I know this second one wasn't the greatest, but if you keep going you'll get the full picture of everything, including time paradoxes and time loops, literally. There are points that seem silly and maybe even corny, but they are good movies. They would have to be considering how premium channels and streaming services have them available a good deal of the time. I think 20th Century Fox knew they had a valuable IP right out of the gate after the first movie so that's why it has endured for so long.
Matthew Tarpley
2025-03-02 13:35:34 +0000 UTCHi Cassie. You're comment about them escaping and going back in time, is correct. It's just not the "them" you are thinking about.
Jorge De La Torriente
2025-02-28 19:53:43 +0000 UTCThey get so much better. The third one has a love story in it.
Dean Sullivan
2025-02-28 18:40:19 +0000 UTCReally hope you continue with these, the next two are great and I feel like would be much more up your alley, and there's a fun little Star Trek connection in them! :) Also I have a soft spot for this one bc it's one of the only movies where the protagonist and I share a name! :D
Brent
2025-02-28 04:35:19 +0000 UTCPlease skip the 4th original sequel Battle (1973) -- the worst of the 10 movies in the franchise. I think maybe you had already planned to skip Battle. You skipped Dark Phoenix (2019) of the X-Men franchise, which made sense.
Clay F
2025-02-27 22:25:49 +0000 UTCWith respect to the next sequel (Escape), she replied below: "Zira and Cornelius as central characters, ok im in"
Clay F
2025-02-27 22:20:26 +0000 UTCI understand there are people who do like the old sequels, however considered Cassies taste I think its a guarantee she will not enjoy the rest and that doesn't make for great content.
phillip giroux
2025-02-27 19:53:57 +0000 UTCJust go to the new ones now. The old ones only have kitsch value after the first one.
phillip giroux
2025-02-27 19:47:28 +0000 UTCI like the idea that the themes are racial in nature. Iâm Less sure about the idea that itâs all about Taylor rediscovering his appreciation for humanity and community. The second movie plays like a retread of H.G. Wells' âThe Time Machineâ and its bifurcation of humanity between the Eloi and the Morlocks.
Uncle Phoenix
2025-02-27 18:43:29 +0000 UTCLord help us, these dang stinky apes have are taken over PIB, LOL. I think she's already been convinced to watch Escape...so that's a done deal I believe.
Joe
2025-02-27 16:23:14 +0000 UTCPerhaps the actor for Ursus, the gorilla general, played by James Gregory was familiar is because he was on the Original Series Star Trek, season 1. He played a doctor at a penal colony in which Captain Kirk and a rather lovely psychological assistant beamed down and were subject to the doctor's mind altering device.
3dbadboy1
2025-02-27 15:55:51 +0000 UTCI agree with this. As an âold guyâ if Iâd known how disappointed Iâd be with each movie (beyond the first) I wouldnât have bothered going to see them. So if we can prevent Cassie from having to suffer the same fate, why wouldnât we? In my humble opinion Cassie skipping ahead to 2011 âRise of the planet of the apesâ will provide you with an insightful and entertaining viewing experience.
Jon Mooney
2025-02-27 14:49:17 +0000 UTCWhen I look at James Franciscus, I keep seeing that blind guy from the "Longstreet" TV series I watched as a kid,
Clay F
2025-02-27 14:13:04 +0000 UTCOh I didn't read that many of the comments. So it's more of a debate whether they're worth watching or not.
Chris Thom
2025-02-27 11:25:37 +0000 UTCYou took a movie about humanity bombed into hiding, radioactive poisoned people, even still after all that, still worshiping a weapon as FEMALE supremacy? đ”
YodatheHobbit
2025-02-27 09:18:00 +0000 UTCFor some reason I really love that last line by the narrator. Just the simplicity and bluntness of it. Like the ending of Infinity War, you just wonder "Well where the heck are they gonna go from HERE?!?!" đ±đ It's been parodied a few times, though I can't remember by what, only that I laugh at the parodied once I finally understood the reference. This was accidentally the first POTA film I saw. They had a Memorial Day Weekend marathon on TBS I think where they showed all of the old apes films for the whole 3 day weekend again and again and again when I was 15. I suddenly because obsessed with the characters and story for a weekend! Had the opportunity to watch them all so I did. I happened to start this one just after the first few scenes of it, thinking it was the original. Then I rewatched it again later to see the beginning. For this reason I kind of like it more, it feels like the original just for me and I kind of like Brent more than Taylor. He's kind of more of an everyman and a bit less dramatic, although Taylor is a bit of a deep thinker and philosopher and of course he has that Heston charisma. Brent just calmly and logically talks, as opposed to Heston who's always chewing on the dialogue. Of course my favorite character is Zaira. If find it QUITE ironic that Heston has the line at the end of the first movie about weapons blowup up all the cities, literally ending mankind, and the the actor goes on to later create the famous quote when he's much older, "If the government wanted to confiscate the gun, they'd have to take it from my my cold, dead hands." I guess he chose not to heed the film's warning. I realized while watching this that the apes meeting together, the gorilla general speaking, with Brent listening in was actually a really clever way to get him mostly caught up with everything Taylor already knew, except for the Earth reveal they give him later. Him having to learn everything Taylor first learned could've taken even so much longer without that scene. I hope you at least continue with the next one. It's a little more fun, for most of it. Might be my favorite, just because of the cultural differences going on. That's all I'll say...
YodatheHobbit
2025-02-27 08:54:54 +0000 UTCNot sure that's all because it's popular, Chris. There's a lot of people who think Cassie's wasting her time beyond the original. Outside of Star Trek and Star Wars (which was more a complaint against saturation of the channel), I'm not sure she's done a series where so many people want her to skip the sequels because they're bad. I don't remember watching the sequels so I can't comment on their quality, but based on comments by fans of the franchise on here, it might be good to watch the next one (which seems to be the best sequel) and then skip to the new. Certainly this first sequel is a +1 for the naysayers.
Clarence Newman
2025-02-27 08:49:31 +0000 UTCI mean the line about Cornelius hitting Zaira is commentary about sexism that was quite prevalent in the 50s and 60s. The rest of the film is of course commentary on mankind's obsession with self destruction and religion and weapons, so firm, that they worship that which irradiated their skin and apparently also gave them mental powers because it also killed their enemies. Gave them "heaven under earth". I'm guessing they wear the masks because they think of how they look underneath as a very private and personal thing, like praying. So they only do it in church, or at momentous occasions(the guy taking it off, realizing he's dying, eager to meet his god). Nothing's really a metaphor because it's too on the nose to be a metaphor. It's a REALLY obvious metaphor for that.
YodatheHobbit
2025-02-27 08:42:50 +0000 UTCGen Z thinks the ending of Rogue One is bleak? Beneath The Planet Of the Apes: "Wait till they get a load of me."
YodatheHobbit
2025-02-27 08:31:17 +0000 UTC"People are perverted in their nature, and true religion sets a bar for morality that straightens them" That's projection. If you feel you need religion to prevent yourself from stealing and beating people up, please stay in church. Plenty of the rest of us seem perfectly capable all on our own of getting through the day without embarking on a crime spree. Now let's all go back to discussing movies, which is the purpose of this community.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-27 07:38:37 +0000 UTCSeriously. Like 20 comments saying the same thing.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-27 07:34:15 +0000 UTCAnd setting aside the metaphorical level, the first film is essentially about a dedicated anti-social misanthrope who hates people, being forced by circumstance into being the last remaining advocate for human civilization. I don't really see how this is a statement on feminism.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-27 07:30:08 +0000 UTCCassie, I can understand why you had this reaction. The idea for Beneath was good, the execution was not. A shame too, because this could have been a great sequel. Getting Brent up to date on what has happened could've been done more swiftly. Dr. Zira & Cornelius having little to do this time around, really hurt. It would be great to have more explanation and background of the subterranean people. James Franciscus does a good job as Brent. James Gregory is excellent as General Ursus. If only more thought and caring had gone into this movie. All this being said, Cassie, please continue this journey with the original series. "Escape" & "Conquest" are both very good. If you want to skip "Battle", we would all understand. Thanks again for another fun reaction.
Mark Vaderr
2025-02-27 07:25:54 +0000 UTCDang 212 comments already. Think I've always underestimated the popularity of this franchise. Thought it was more niche than that for some reason.
Chris Thom
2025-02-27 04:14:52 +0000 UTCI'm pretty sure the metaphors are racial not gender based.
TheSingulatarian
2025-02-27 03:40:58 +0000 UTCAll of the sequels to planet of the apes are just kind of fun sci-fi films. None of them are really high concept like the original my personal recommendation would be to pivot and watch silent green starring Charlton Heston and the Omega man starring Charlton Heston those were the three classic sci-fi films that he made all around the same time. All of them smart, entertaining, high concept, sci-fi, just between you and me. Itâs the only sci-fi trilogy you really have to see.
Thomas Thompson
2025-02-27 03:03:16 +0000 UTCHeh. Happy to help. :-)
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 03:02:40 +0000 UTCYou have convinced me and won the dispute. The sequels to Planet of the Apes are very good movies. I now hope the entire next two months is dedicated to these beloved and respected films. I hope the record low on views doesn't affect this and we all get to enjoy these wonderful rubber-faced primates well into the spring! Viva la Simians!
Lyle Morgan
2025-02-27 02:01:19 +0000 UTCIt must be exhausting living in a world of such simplified hyperbolic overreaction.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:54:37 +0000 UTCRotten Tomatoes is no more the arbiter of what makes a good movie then an election is an arbiter of who makes a good president.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:53:04 +0000 UTCThat one is also clearly the biggest influence on the reboot trilogy.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:50:04 +0000 UTCIt really is.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:49:11 +0000 UTCSomehow I think you'll survive.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:48:58 +0000 UTCNo, we cannot stop because we need to keep combating the mistaken notion that they are all terrible.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:48:23 +0000 UTCI say watch 3 and 4, but skip 5 and probably the Burton one too.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:47:16 +0000 UTCNo, she has been convinced to watch the next one at the very least.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:46:05 +0000 UTCWell, they are definitely metaphors for something.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-27 01:45:24 +0000 UTCNot only did they develop mental powers because of the nuclear war and became mutants. They also went insane. They probably had long life as well because you can see the skin was burned off because of the radiation, etc. I'm sure there are better speculations than that lol. The next ones are 'better.'
3dbadboy1
2025-02-27 01:24:40 +0000 UTCThatâs not what my statement meant at all. You read a lot into it that simply isnât there. As for history, weâve been over it. You choose to believe that no one in history that identifies as Christian has ever done anything wrong. I disagree. At any rate, Iâm done with this discussion. No matter what I say, youâll choose to take umbrage, thatâs become clear.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-27 01:13:52 +0000 UTCSaying ''most people of most faiths are peaceful and try to abide by the gentler tenets of their faith'' characterises people as resisting the instruction toward violence, or other sinfulness, that simply do not exist in the gospels or Buddhism. People are perverted in their nature, and true religion sets a bar for morality that straightens them, not the other way around, which is how I think you are framing the course of history
Milton William Burray
2025-02-27 01:11:04 +0000 UTCStrangely enough it has recently come to light that Edward Teller father of the Hydrogen Bomb was advocating for creating a "doomsday machine". Edward Teller was completely nuts. The Soviets also had a Doomsday device called "Dead Hand" or Perimeter.
TheSingulatarian
2025-02-27 01:07:28 +0000 UTCI don't think spamming the thread is helping your cause. But thanks for caring.
Silver Machine
2025-02-27 01:04:07 +0000 UTCWell, they are proselytizing about some kind of unnatural Power Reversal. What else makes sense?
Uncle Phoenix
2025-02-27 00:53:23 +0000 UTCI also said âIâm aware, of course, that most people of most faiths are peaceful and try to abide by the gentler tenets of their faith. My own family are Christians and I respect them and their beliefs.â Maybe you missed that part. But thereâs also no denying that religion has been used by some as a sword to do harm. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. Thatâs not smearing people of faith; itâs acknowledging the obvious. And, if you donât use your religion as an excuse to condemn or harm others, that statement would clearly not apply to you.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-27 00:52:39 +0000 UTCI think you made your point plainly. My issue is that you also took the opportunity to smear religion at the same time, it was that point I objected to, and if you go back and read your post I think you'll agree it's there. When you do that you open the door to that conversation, and in my opinion even Islam offers people a better quality of life than the aggressively atheist nations of the 20th century, which contained more horror in the space of 100 years, than during thousands of years of religiosity combined
Milton William Burray
2025-02-27 00:47:25 +0000 UTCSmoke less weed.
TheSingulatarian
2025-02-27 00:46:37 +0000 UTCAll the Planet of the Apes movies have DAAARK endings except for the last one. You still should continue. How will you know what happens to Zira and Corneilus without watching Escape? Because they do find a way to Escape the Planet of the Apes. Pretty clever actually as the writer thought he had written himself into a corner with Beneath. Why is Generation X the way we are. Part of it may be because this was our children's entertainment. Glad you are feeling better.
TheSingulatarian
2025-02-27 00:44:56 +0000 UTCIâd be curious to hear: what do you think my point was?
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-27 00:35:24 +0000 UTCI read your point, and then made a point of my own to be considered alongside your point that you can read if you want to. I'm not trying to 'win'
Milton William Burray
2025-02-27 00:34:32 +0000 UTCI get it, âChristianity good, other religions bad. Believing different than me is bad.â Very tolerant. And none of that addresses my point, at all. Congratulations, you are debating with yourself.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-27 00:28:21 +0000 UTCPlease continue with this franchise Cassie. The next one, (Escape From The Planet of the Apes) is way better and youâll definitely enjoy it.
Joe M
2025-02-27 00:22:20 +0000 UTCBuddhists 'allowed' atheist Pol Pot to kill 25% of the Cambodian population, are we supposed to hold Buddhism, or Buddhists more generally, responsible? Or should we hold atheism responsible? I'm not just sticking up for 'my religion' but for people not to be smeared with that FYI "It is our bad luck that we have chosen the wrong faith." This is what Hitler once complained to his confidant, personal architect, and Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer. "Why should we have Christianity, with its gentleness and wisdom?", he asked. For the Nazi leader, Islam was the "religion of men" (MĂ€nnerreligion) - pure, too. The "soldiers of Islam" went to the military paradise, with "beautiful women" and "rivers of wine", "a true earthly paradise". This, Hitler argued, suited the "German temperament" more than the "Jewish filth and the foolishness of the priests" of the Christians
Milton William Burray
2025-02-27 00:17:10 +0000 UTCTo be fair, she did an informal poll during the premier of Planet, and it was like 60% she should watch the originals. So maybe the diehard fans of Apes will stick with her. I think Conquest is a thoughtful movie. Whatever she wants to do is fine with me.
Carol_White
2025-02-27 00:05:16 +0000 UTCNo.
Carol_White
2025-02-27 00:01:53 +0000 UTCYouâve tried to turn this into a debate about religion vs atheism. Iâm not interested in that, frankly. Iâm neither religious nor atheist. What I am interested in is that the foundation of Christianity is quite different than what itâs become. And that was my point about this movie. Itâs been 2,000 years since the nuclear holocaust that created this world. It shouldnât surprise anyone that a religion grew up around the bomb, much less that it has mutated just like its practitioners. If you read the entirety of my original post, you would have recognized that I said from the beginning that most people of faith embrace its better aspects. But, even then, thereâs no denying that Christianity - or any other religion, for that matter - has changed. Just as thereâs no denying that great evil has been done in its name. I have said explicitly that religion itself isnât morally bereft, but to deny its abuses is to condone them. Now, if you want to continue to debate the benefits of your religion, go right ahead. As I said, Iâm not interested. I actually think that people should be free to embrace whatever set of beliefs they wish to, even discarding those elements they might find distasteful.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-26 23:47:28 +0000 UTC@Patrick, Actually I don't hate atheists at all, I think you're being a bit overly-sensitive. Atheists have done a lot of good in the world, invented many things that are useful to people, and solved many material challenges But as per God-Emperor Trump's â'Two Sexesâ executive order, there's no such thing as trans women
Milton William Burray
2025-02-26 23:41:15 +0000 UTCWrong. He was born into a Catholic family and baptized as such, although he held other, disparate beliefs as well. He was heavily into the occult, but his foundation was Christianity. He later repudiated the Catholic Church and declared himself a German Christian, a Protestant group. At one point he even went so far as to state, âThrough me the Evangelical Protestant Church could become the established church, as in England.â Iâd also point out that any number of Christians also embrace the theory of evolution. They are not mutually exclusive. And the nation Hitler ruled was overwhelmingly Christian, yet sat by while millions of the innocent were tortured and murdered. And, if your point is that Hitlerâs religious views changed over time: congratulations, you finally got the point of my original post. Religion changes; it changes its practitioners and its practitioners change it. And, in 2,000 years, it can change quite a bit - becoming something never anticipated by its founder(s). Whether those changes are for good or ill is largely subjective. Thereâs no way to judge, for instance, how much harm would have come from the ABSENCE of Christianity or Islam. We canât know because those religions were fundamental in creating the world we live in and thereâs no way to go back and see what our world would look like without them. But we can definitely see that they have changed over time.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-26 23:15:12 +0000 UTCCassie who ever you listen to about watching this movie you need to stop listening to them. If you would have listened to me and watched 1, 3 & 4. You would have found out how earth became the Planet of the Apes and you wouldn't have had to suffer through the 2nd movie. Now the 2nd movie has turned you off of the original movies and you will miss out. It's depressing. I don't know if I can watch your reaction to the 2nd movie. To depressing.
Rick Williams
2025-02-26 23:13:00 +0000 UTCDoes anyone else feel like These Movies are just live action Metaphors about Feminism; The Matriarchy; and the whole Internalized Female Supremacy movement ?
Uncle Phoenix
2025-02-26 23:10:34 +0000 UTCYou're making factual errors: Adolf Hitler was raised a Catholic but was a Darwinist, though this is complicated by the Nazis fascination with magical objects and occult powers, and said Christianity was weak and wished Germany was muslim because they were warlike, and probably because they also hated Jews, believing an Islamised Germany could sit at the head of the Arab world, who are also Ayrians. Also the Catholic Church opposed the National Socialist German Workers Party, and in the 1933 elections fewer Catholics voted for the Nazis than the national average What's true is that people are evil, but you are selecting certain things and framing the religion itself as being any kind of motivating force, ignoring the evil completely outside religious institutions, or the good religion has obviously done. It's no freak occurrence that the happiest countries, with the best education. that have spawned everything in modern invention and social progress, originated from Christian nations If Germany being a predominately Christian country means the casualties of WWII mean it's been done in the name of Christianity, does that mean the USA being a predominantly Christian country means religion has anything to do with dropping nuclear bombs on Japan, or covering Vietnam in agent orange? Also see what happened before the Crusadesâthat's something muslims & atheists like to ignore when using military conflicts from 900 years ago as a stick to beat Christianity with
Milton William Burray
2025-02-26 23:10:21 +0000 UTCI agree with @Stick Figure Studios, a lot of people are looking forward to Cassie's reaction to Escape.
Mark T
2025-02-26 23:04:39 +0000 UTCJoe - I agree. The story in the 2001 remake is not that compelling. I cringe. But to me overall is better than Beneath and Battle. Walter â she may very well react to the entire franchise, except she had already planned to skip Battle (1973) â the worst movie in the franchise.
Clay F
2025-02-26 22:46:05 +0000 UTCDefinitely the worst one. The ending is because Charlton Heston didnt want there to be a sequel. Lol. The next 2 are good and ties in (slightly) with the new movies.
Gro Do
2025-02-26 22:38:35 +0000 UTCMy vote is to definitely continue them. At least the next two, I personally enjoy them a lot more than Beneath.
Astraeos
2025-02-26 22:29:50 +0000 UTCI disagree, and to clarify, I said skip four AND five, but it's just an opinion. To each their own. :-)
Jason Scott
2025-02-26 22:23:26 +0000 UTChaha not Alien Mutants, remember they are on earth, they are human fallout mutants. which they gain mind control powers, I know strange, lol. I will use my mind control powers and say "Please continue the series" hope it works lol
John A
2025-02-26 22:23:09 +0000 UTCYeah in a decade because you guys insist on making her watch terrible old movies.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:15:45 +0000 UTCIts really not
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:10:39 +0000 UTCUgh you guys are really going to make us wait months to get to an Apes movie worth watching aren't you?
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:10:18 +0000 UTCGod no.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:09:09 +0000 UTCCan we stop with this please? They are all terrible.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:08:55 +0000 UTCNo thanks. Let's just skip to 2011.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 22:07:58 +0000 UTCIf Cassie is still undecided about continuing on with Escape & Conquest...why not put it to a vote from all her paying patrons?
Joe
2025-02-26 22:06:32 +0000 UTCKeep Going! Keep Going! Keep Going! Loving these. The next ones are definitely better. Thank You.
Larry Darrell
2025-02-26 22:05:21 +0000 UTCWhat is different about the channel today than times past? It's always been a diverse selection of films shown here.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 21:44:23 +0000 UTCYeah I have no idea how that one (CONQUEST) can possibly be considered "dull"
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 21:39:24 +0000 UTCMilton - So, you hate atheists and you hate transwomen. Anyone else you feel the need to attack or are you all good for the day?
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 21:37:57 +0000 UTC"Beneath" is definitely the craziest of the sequels. And the fact that Charlton Heston wouldn't commit to being in the whole movie created major pacing issues. Basically, the audience is forced to wait for Bent to get up to speed about everything we know from the first film. It's a story with interesting ideas but awkwardly executed. That said, I think you will be pleasantly surprised by "Escape" due to its profound change in scale and tone. (No spoilers!) And I would argue that "Conquest" is the most essential sequel of the original series. It has a profound influence on the modern franchise, especially its ape protagonist. "Battle" has some bits that I like, and interesting casting, but it is truly for completists only. Wouldn't mind if you skipped it.
Silver Machine
2025-02-26 21:27:25 +0000 UTC@Milt, we've all met some ballsy women...đ§.
Joe
2025-02-26 21:23:56 +0000 UTCJason, there is no point of skipping the fourth film if youâve watched the first three.
Mike LL
2025-02-26 20:56:46 +0000 UTCThe ending also completely justifies Dr. Zaius's fear of Taylor and humans in general. Not only did they (indirectly) bring about the Apes uprising, but they destroyed the world...twice.
Kent Theaker
2025-02-26 20:43:50 +0000 UTCYes this is why you had to watch "Beneath the Planet of the Apes." to understand what happened for "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" I know Beneath was not a good film, but you must continue with Escape. You will like that next one. Beneath, has some strange things to it. the mutants from the fallout, strange mind powers and look. It does try to give messages like the first one did very well with. Such as the younger generation protesting against the war, false worship, and how war can only lead to the end of everything. Just did not work well in this one.
John A
2025-02-26 20:33:33 +0000 UTCKim Hunter, for the record, was an amazing, amazing actress for decades; her presence in these films (along with Roddy McDowell - a great performer in his own right) really elevates the material.
Jason Scott
2025-02-26 20:16:49 +0000 UTCTo conclude: maybe watch #3, it's worth the time - but skip 4 and 5. The Tim Burton one is "iffy" - not necessary to watch, but has a lot of talented people. The current series, beginning with "Rise," is it's own thing, really, and pretty good overall imho.
Jason Scott
2025-02-26 20:14:27 +0000 UTCAs others have mentioned, these "sequels" are hit or miss - and plagued by lower and lower budgets and expectations. The original, written by Rod Serling (hence all of the monologues and social commentary) cost about 6m, and was directed by Franklin Schaffner, who won an Oscar a couple of years later; the sequel cost 2.5 and the behind the camera talent was far more pedestrian: Ted Post, the director, was more of a TV series director, and writer Paul Dehn had won an Oscar in 1950, but was in his 60s and at the end of his career when he was hired to write the Apes sequels. The third film - "Escape" is a bit better because of how it "moves" the action (no spoilers), and has some more humor, but alas, was even LOWER budget (2m). It does have the great Sal Mineo (hey Cassie - watch REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE sometime?) "Conquest" and "Battle" were both budgeted at 1.7m, and the last was actually written by two people WHO HAD NEVER SEEN THE EARLIER MOVIES, and a director who hated the script.
Jason Scott
2025-02-26 20:13:10 +0000 UTCIn weird ways, I like this one as much as the original. They essentially Xeroxed Taylor with Brent...because Charlton wouldn't commit to more than a cameo. But I thought that created an interesting tension: What happened to Taylor?? And the destroyed NYC subway, the chapel of the H-bomb (or whatever they called it), these weirdo mutants. The ending was Heston's suggestion...because he didn't want to be in any sequel ANY way. But the producers spun this back in the only way they could, and ESCAPE is a good watch. BENEATH is an acquired taste, but for 8-year-old me this was the bee's knees!
Kent Theaker
2025-02-26 20:11:49 +0000 UTCThe vast majority of the sequels are really bad, but Escape from the Planet of the Apes is worth watching. Kim Hunter, who played Zira, originally refused to do any more sequels, but found the script to Escape from the Planet of the Apes so compelling, she came back for just that one. No, it's not as good as the original, but it's still worth watching. None of the others are.
Art of Free Speech
2025-02-26 19:44:31 +0000 UTCEscape from the Planet of the Apes is worth watching. None of the others are. Kim Hunter who plays Zira originally refused to come back to do any other sequels, and then she read the script for Escape and decided to come back and do just that one. It's worthwhile. Again, I agree none of the others are, but that one is.
Art of Free Speech
2025-02-26 19:42:47 +0000 UTCRight there with you. I knew the 2nd one was trash anyway.
Art of Free Speech
2025-02-26 19:37:49 +0000 UTCI hope you react to Escape and Conquest. Battle, the fifth one, is low budget, low effort boring trash and can be skipped. Escape has a ridiculous plot hole set up but it's worth it. Conquest is stylish, brooding, and unsettling.
keoma songs
2025-02-26 19:05:10 +0000 UTCI think you misunderstood my post. I never advocated for atheism and I explicitly made the point that most people of faith are peaceful. That said, thereâs no denying that religion evolves in ways that we cannot anticipate and that great harm has been done in the name of the various faiths. For example, Nazi Germany was overwhelmingly Christian and Hitler claimed to be Christian. Yet, as a nation, they found peace with a philosophy of hatred toward those that they judged to be different. Estimates of deaths in the Crusades range from a low of 2 million to a high of 9 million. Napoleon was a Catholic. His attempt to subjugate the âcivilizedâ world resulted in deaths in the millions. Domestically, the KKK was founded by self-professed Christians. The terrorists that carried out 9/11 were motivated by their twisted view of the Koran. So are many other terrorists that carry out murder campaigns today. Murder and terror in the name of religion is a fact. And, back to my original point, I doubt thatâs what the carpenter had in mind. But, in the course of two millennia, original purposes/ideas/beliefs can become lost or twisted or simply evolve in ways we never anticipated.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-26 18:51:32 +0000 UTCNormally I like going in blind and not reading the blurb, but seeing it this time perhaps I'll wait for YT edit on this one.
Gray
2025-02-26 18:35:25 +0000 UTC38%, 53%, 46%, 30%, 27% are the RT audience ratings until the 2014 reboot, which is great. I'm glad y'all like them. Overwhelmingly, most people do not. Y'all have fun with them.
Lyle Morgan
2025-02-26 18:33:27 +0000 UTCWhatever you think about religion the most objectively horrific nations of the world have been aggressively atheist. I would rather live in even a muslim country than Maoist China, Soviet Russia, or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge
Milton William Burray
2025-02-26 17:54:48 +0000 UTCIn 2022 people believed women had testicles, it was nuts
Milton William Burray
2025-02-26 17:50:16 +0000 UTCYea, this one was out there but the next two are much better. Definitely watch them.
3dbadboy1
2025-02-26 17:48:47 +0000 UTCI'd be fine with this, though I would like it if she watched 4 as well and then skipped to RISE (although I also think she would enjoy the Tim Burton one, flawed as it may be).
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:39:31 +0000 UTCEscape is different for sure, still a goofy film that I think will not hit with Cassie...hope I'm wrong.
Joe
2025-02-26 17:36:46 +0000 UTCYou know what truly sucks is that if you read online there were a lot of interesting and different ideas for this sequel. My personal favorite is one where it was going to be called "Planet of the Men" and it was gonna be about Taylor and his and Nova's son named Sirius as Taylor re-educates primitive humans over the course of many years and the more aggressive apes wage war against the new smart humans and Taylor and Sirius would lead the human army against the apes. That would've been a good sequel, but Fox rejected it and instead we got this poor, forgettable rehash of the first movie.
Benjamin Guzman
2025-02-26 17:36:29 +0000 UTCYes, it is my opinion and I appreciate that you respect it, just as I respect your opinion (even if I disagree with it). As I said, I think all of them are worth seeing at least once and, consequently, are worth a reaction on the channel (which is not to say that I am necessarily demanding she react to all of them). She's not going to like all of them with the same level of affection, but this channel has never been about her only watching movies that she likes. It's been about her broadening her cinematic horizons, to discover films and film franchises that she was ignorant of previously and which are important or at least worth seeing... and the planet of the apes series definitely falls into that category.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:35:23 +0000 UTCAgreed
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:33:28 +0000 UTCIt'll come.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:33:05 +0000 UTCYup.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:32:40 +0000 UTCI second this.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:32:24 +0000 UTCBut nobody else would be.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:32:11 +0000 UTCI wasn't shocked at all that Cassie and Carly enjoyed the first one. I figured they would. It's just an extremely intelligent, impeccably crafted science fiction drama with a killer premise, provocative ideas and an iconic ending. I would have been more surprised if they didn't like it.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:30:12 +0000 UTCI have indicated my support for skipping to the newer films, and I stand by that. That said, I do agree with others that these early 70s sequels are products of their time and can (to some extent) be appreciated for what they are. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) was considered a disappointing sequel to the original film. Escape from the Planet of the Apes( 1971), and then Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) were considered an improvement over Beneath, but were still only moderately decent. Then the bottom dropped out of the series completely with Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973) which pretty much ended the film series. It then went to a failed live-action TV series, and finally to a 13 episode failed animated series (which weirdly was actually closer in concept to the original book in some ways) which pretty much killed the franchise for 25 years.... until Tim Burton, in true Tim Burton fashion, tried to resurrect it, but only managed to drive a stake in its heart. This was followed 10 years later by the astounding prequel trilogy which has given the series new life and taken it in a new direction. I'm still uncertain about the latest film (Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes). The visuals are still good to great (depending on the scene), but, IMO, the story and new characters weren't quite as engaging as the first three prequels. Still interested to see where they take it though.
D. T. Nelson
2025-02-26 17:30:07 +0000 UTCThe next one is a lot better than this.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:27:30 +0000 UTCYeah, I knew she wasn't going to like this one either, but I'd hoped (If she insisted on watching the original sequels) that she would at least continue on to the third and maybe the fourth.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:21:53 +0000 UTCThis is ur opinion and I respect that. Maybe worth the time sitting through all of them to try and see where they go with the concept, and what they tried to accomplish. It's just my opinion they aren't necessarily worthy of reactions on the channel đ„đ
Patrick Crippen
2025-02-26 17:21:41 +0000 UTCThey get better for a bit and then they get worse and then they get better again.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:21:14 +0000 UTCShe did listen to the people. She did a YT poll and the majority (70%) wanted her to watch the original sequels.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:20:12 +0000 UTCPeople want to watch them because they were popular, smart, important, humorous, innovative, goofy, fun and just highly entertaining movies for their time and they remain so today. This is a bad take. The POTA films -- even at their woret -- are not "crappy." To call them that and to say they have "no value whatsoever" or "are a waste of time" is the height (depth?) of ignorance. These movies, flawed as they may be, have more artistic merit than almost any of the garish, soulless, cynical corporate cashgrabs coming out of Disney nowadays.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:07:47 +0000 UTCThis is so ass backwards.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:06:39 +0000 UTCThey're all worth watching. They're just not all equally good.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:06:06 +0000 UTCNot true. All are not equally good of course, but all are still worth watching.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:05:38 +0000 UTCThis isn't even remotely close to being true.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:04:01 +0000 UTCGood job, Clay. You found exactly the right thing to say to interest Cassie in the next one. :-)
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:03:13 +0000 UTCThere are thousands and thousands of good movies... and many of the "Planet of the Apes" movies are among them.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:01:41 +0000 UTCYes.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:00:46 +0000 UTCThe two with Montalban are great.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 17:00:24 +0000 UTCNot all of them.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 16:59:07 +0000 UTCAgreed. I also predicted this and also think ESCAPE is the best of the original sequels.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 16:58:10 +0000 UTCIf she goes that deep and watches the POTA TV series we'll need an intervention to get her help. đ
Joe
2025-02-26 16:52:28 +0000 UTCI feel bad because I was worried you might want to stop after watching Beneath. I secretly hoped you'd skip Beneath and go straight to Escape because that's where the magic is. Please do not skip Escape, it is by far the best of the OG sequels and I'm confident you will enjoy it.
Mark T
2025-02-26 16:49:39 +0000 UTCWhat about Any which Way You Can
Brian McGovern
2025-02-26 16:46:29 +0000 UTCMan. What made me think it was Beyond?
Brian McGovern
2025-02-26 16:45:26 +0000 UTCYou're not alone; I felt the same way you did. The next one is a little better than this, but that's not saying much. If it were up to me, I would jump to the 2011 film "Rise of the Planet of the Apes."
Eddie Perkins
2025-02-26 16:44:50 +0000 UTCHi Cassie. Totally get your reaction. But the next one, "Escape from the Planet of the Apes", ties directly into the end of this one.
Jorge De La Torriente
2025-02-26 16:38:04 +0000 UTCWell said. I would only add that there are still lots of people that believe in telepathy and telekinesis. But then, people still believe in lots of things I find absurd (Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, little green men, etc).
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-26 16:33:09 +0000 UTCI agree, as do many of us.
Joe
2025-02-26 16:32:07 +0000 UTCMany of us have tried to steer her away from these OG sequels, but it appears she will watch them, maybe not Battle I believe. YT views will be low on these IMO.
Joe
2025-02-26 16:30:20 +0000 UTCI haven't watched the reaction yet, but I'm about to. I want to encourage you to continue watching the older series. Beneath the planet of the apes, in my opinion, is the worst one. But escape from the planet of the apes, the next one, is really fun. I think you will genuinely love it.
Joshua Garrett
2025-02-26 16:22:57 +0000 UTCYes, this is a really bad movie. A true turkey. But I am a massive fan of and love the Planet of the Apes movies. Both are and can be true. The next movie is 100 times better. And doggone it, I am massively curious as to whether she recognizes a certain actor featured in Escape From the Planet of the Apes!
Mike LL
2025-02-26 16:22:53 +0000 UTCI was surprised you continued with the old Apes series. I loved these when I was a kid but I love all the Godzilla films and Ultraman. I like low-budget and kitsch. I don't think that's your style. I think later ones were more...fun...if that's the right word but maybe you could just watch them for you or with the kids. Just skip to the current ones...which I'll be honest I lost track of.
Jennifer Medicus
2025-02-26 16:20:14 +0000 UTCIt seemed that Cassie had particular problems with the mutants and their faith in the bomb as their God. But remember, two thousand years have passed and the bomb literally shaped the world they live in. Two thousand years ago, a simple carpenter brought a message of peace, love and forgiveness to his followers. And two thousand years later, how many wars have been fought in the name of the faith he founded? What about todayâs churches, whether Protestant or Catholic? Would he recognize them? He famously railed against the accumulation of wealth by the church, but look at the wealth of the Catholic Church. How about all those altar boys that were raped and their rapists were simply reassigned to another church, free to find fresh victims? How about an offshoot of Christianity? Thirteen hundred years ago, Islam was founded. The carpenter, though not viewed as the embodiment of God, was viewed as an important prophet. Today, self described followers of the faith murder others, often thru suicide bombings, with the promise of everlasting paradise (complete with a bevy of virgins ready to cater to their every sexual whim) to sustain them. Itâs almost as though religion, regardless of its original, well meaning intent, is easily perverted. Iâm aware, of course, that most people of most faiths are peaceful and try to abide by the gentler tenets of their faith. My own family are Christians and I respect them and their beliefs. But thereâs no denying that the church they grew up in is VERY different than the faith of two thousand years ago, with various denominations disagreeing about virtually everything in the faith, from means of baptism to consumption of alcohol to dancing and singing and everything in between. Is it really that outlandish, given all that, that the surviving mutant descendants of a nuclear conflagration would find faith and hope in that which they view as almighty? I donât know. Iâm an agnostic, so perhaps the âsubtletiesâ of the evolution of modern faiths vs the evolution of those depicted in the movie escape me.
Just Plain Bob
2025-02-26 16:19:18 +0000 UTCThese OG sequels are stinky in more ways than just the apes, LOL.
Joe
2025-02-26 16:19:08 +0000 UTCA bit of cultural reference to help you. When these movies were made many people believed that Telepathy and Telekinesis was real. I know, crazy that people really did believe that. People also believed that radioactive fallout from a nuclear war would create mutants with strange abilities. There are many movies exploring this possibility. People also believed that the USA was making a Doomsday bomb that would destroy the earth by causing the atmosphere the ignite. The Cobalt bomb. There is even an OG Star Trek episode about this. We now know that the USSR/Russia have the most powerful nuclear bombs ever made. There was also a massive peace movement against the USA having Atomic bombs. The peace movement was against western countries having atomic bombs, not the USSR. We now know that this massive peace movement against the west was funded by the USSR. A vast majority of people also believed that the military, not politicians caused wars. This is like saying a club or a car or a gun kills people, people kill people with bare hands or what ever object they can use. Taylor and Brents fight controlled by a peace loving politician. Politicians start wars, soldiers die in wars. I do hope you watch the next 3 movies as all of your questions will be answered. If you are looking for a short TV series to watch there is a 14 episode series that continues the story of the Planet of The Apes. Now that you know where Teletubbies come from, you can tell all your friends that Teletubbies come from "The Planet of the Apes"
Gregory Costello
2025-02-26 16:16:27 +0000 UTCIf you are dedicated to watching the whole series, then watch the Burton one - but only if you are committed to watch them all. It's not worth it for any other reason. The new films are quite good though.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:14:49 +0000 UTCI love the original series, but they are an acquired taste. I was shocked Cassie and Carly enjoyed the first one, to be honest. The sequels, beloved by me, never match the quality of the original. The new series I think would be much more enjoyable for PiB. Everything about those films improve on the original series. And you don't need to watch the original series to enjoy the new one.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:12:22 +0000 UTCI don't think her enjoyment of the new films is going to be affected one way or another by watching the original sequels. If anything, her enjoyment of the new ones might actually be enhanced by it.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 16:11:41 +0000 UTCI think that's true. But at the same time, if you skipped ahead to the new films, I believe you would enjoy them more.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:09:07 +0000 UTCmaybe because a lot of people don't think they are bad. Everybody likes different things, not everything will appeal to all people.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:07:50 +0000 UTCthe newer films are great. I mean, if you don't like the Apes films, then you don't like them. But if the concept works for you, the new films are really good.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:06:53 +0000 UTCLook, I love The Planet of the Apes films. This one is the least of them. I definitely enjoy the next (3rd) film much more. HOWEVER, these films are the product of their times. I can understand why some people do not enjoy them. As a HUGE Apes fan, I would totally understand and support you skipping to the newer films, which are better in all possible ways.
Walter
2025-02-26 16:04:24 +0000 UTCWell they did not plan to do a series of sequels. It was kinda unheard of at the time. But the first one made money and was a hit, so the studio demanded a sequel. Well they kinda was stretch a idea and Charleton Heston didn't wanna do it. As with each film, the previous made money, so a sequel was demanded and they keep getting backed into a corner for ideas. So it basically making it up as they went. But the next three is somewhat of prequels. But I do enjoy. Thank you Cassie. Hope you feeling better.
Brian Wood
2025-02-26 16:00:22 +0000 UTCThis movie, obviously, is not as good as the 1st one. But it ties up the story of Taylor / Nova and what happened to them. A bit strange, but this was the 70's.
Bill Maurer
2025-02-26 15:56:47 +0000 UTCI think your time is better spent watching something else.
Michael Avalos
2025-02-26 15:55:43 +0000 UTCI am surprised you watched this. The problem with the original ape series is in each successive film the budget got smaller and smaller, and it shows. Thereâs one with Ricardo Montalban (yes, Khan) that is so painfully dull that I have never made it through the entire film.
Darren Harrison
2025-02-26 15:39:43 +0000 UTCHonestly, never been into Planet of the Apes. I think Iâve seen them when I was young. So I get the references when people use them. But havenât watched any of the films in decades. So I am perfectly fine with skipping the rest of the series
Robert da Spruce
2025-02-26 15:39:33 +0000 UTCClay, a good, well acted story is what makes or breaks a film, I'm never impressed with XF/make-up, etc....that's all just window dressing.
Joe
2025-02-26 15:37:21 +0000 UTChahahhaa
Cassie
2025-02-26 15:37:04 +0000 UTCtrue true! Zira and Cornelius as central characters, ok im in
Cassie
2025-02-26 15:36:10 +0000 UTCFair enough
Richard Maurer
2025-02-26 15:30:15 +0000 UTCPlease watch more Cass, they do improve. đ
D4RK
2025-02-26 15:20:54 +0000 UTCIve never been able to sit and watch any of the originals all the way through. I tried a couple times when I was younger, but getting young me to sit through it wasnt possible... Not sure I'd be any better able to at my current age either.
Miguel
2025-02-26 15:04:34 +0000 UTCI don't know why commit to the whole series. For example Cassie watched a Pink Panther movie, in the future she may watch another, no need to commit to the whole bunch in advance, there's time
Milton William Burray
2025-02-26 15:02:09 +0000 UTCMy feelings are they should have stopped after the 1st one. Seen them all once, years ago. Haven't seen any of the newer films . If you watch them I'll probably watch those for the 1st time with you.
Samuel Champ
2025-02-26 15:00:01 +0000 UTCThere are thousands and thousands of good movies. So why exactly do people want to watch admittedly bad ones with you âjust because you should?â I donât understand.
Lyle Morgan
2025-02-26 14:49:04 +0000 UTCDefinitely watch the next one. It's the best of the original sequels.
Stick Figure Studios
2025-02-26 14:32:16 +0000 UTCI think it was more of a scheduling issue regarding Roddy not coming back. As good as Roddy is in the first film, he really comes into his own in the remaining films, especially CONQUEST. His work in that one should have earned him an Oscar nomination.
Matt Rose
2025-02-26 14:22:17 +0000 UTCRoddy comes back too....Kim Hunter and him have great chemistry, I'm sure Roddy didn't come back due to money and the fact that they make Cornelius a wife beater, lol
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 14:20:22 +0000 UTCThat's a great point. Despite the overt goofiness in which these movies sometimes indulge, they often reflect the civil and social concerns which were tearing 1960s/1970s America apart. CONQUEST in particular.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 14:17:51 +0000 UTCFair enough. And I just used your comment as an occasion to say something I really, really wanted to say.
Mike LL
2025-02-26 14:12:54 +0000 UTCI have to agree. Came this far, two more steps, er movies, at least.
Mike LL
2025-02-26 14:07:52 +0000 UTCThis would be a horrible place to end it, haha. The 21st century movies are strongly influenced by the next movies. If nothing else you wouldn't be left with the complete annihilation of Earth as the capper for this series. ESCAPE goes in such a bizarre and fascinating direction that I think you would find it a big improvement. ESCAPE and CONQUEST are pretty great, BATTLE is so-so but still worth watching. Again, your channel, your rules, but I think if you've gone this far you should go a little further. Also, the over-the-top outrage from some of the folks here is kind of silly.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 14:06:43 +0000 UTCI donât demand anything, I just speak the truth. Ahead of the curve as per. And where do you see an insult in my post?
Shehab Dawoud
2025-02-26 14:06:28 +0000 UTCStick with it, this is the 'bad' film of the original series. Heston didn't want to come back to do it (he agreed to the extended cameo) so they got James Franciscus as a proxy 'Taylor' character to do what was intended for Heston. The story goes into weird mode and the ending is bleak. The good news is that ESCAPE and CONQUEST are both excellent. If you can, ensure you watch CONQUEST (the 4th one) with the original ending.
Matt Rose
2025-02-26 14:06:23 +0000 UTCShe may very well like one or more of the four newest movies better than the 1968 original. But she seemed to genuinely like the 1968 original -- she liked the originality. By the way, my original recommendation months ago. REACT to these 5: 1. IMDb 8.0, Metacritic 79%, RT 86% (audience 88%) = 1968 original 2. IMDb 7.6, Metacritic 68%, RT 82% (audience 77%) = Rise (2011) 3. IMDb 7.6, Metacritic 79%, RT 91% (audience 88%) = Dawn (2014) 4. IMDb 7.4, Metacritic 82%, RT 94% (audience 84%) = War (2017) 5. IMDb 6.9, Metacritic 66%, RT 80% (audience 78%) = Kingdom (2024) SKIP the remainder of the franchise (just a suggestion): --IMDb 6.0, RT 37% = Beneath (1970) --IMDb 6.3, RT 76% = Escape (1971) --IMDb 6.1, RT 52% = Conquest (1972) --IMDb 5.4, RT 36% = Battle (1973) --IMDb 5.7, Metacritic 50%, RT 43% = 2001 remake
Clay F
2025-02-26 13:59:49 +0000 UTCThere are patrons who demand that our host must ONLY watch exactly what they want and they get very loud and insulting if anyone disagrees with their opinions.
Patrick Flanagan
2025-02-26 13:59:03 +0000 UTCI'm glad you are continuing, these movies are of the time and are allegories of the American morality. This was clearly an anti war movie.....it's fun to see what the next one will be. Plus Roddy McDowall comes back in the next installments. He was the glue for all of these. 70s Andy Serikis
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 13:45:16 +0000 UTCThat has the best orangutan
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 13:42:32 +0000 UTCYou described this movie similar as I do = the first half is essentially a rehash of the 1968 original, and the second half is weird. The next original sequel (Escape), you will get Zira and Cornelius as central characters. BURTON 2001 REMAKE --An advantage of the Tim Burton 2001 remake is it is more modern with a bigger budget than this movie. --I think you said you had a friend who told you they like the 2001 remake. --I am not a big fan, but the 2001 remake has excellent makeup effects, and Tim Roth gives a good performance. Paul Giamatti ain't bad. --The Burton 2001 remake gets a lot of hate and has mediocre reviews, but you might like it. You liked a few X-Men movies that have mediocre reviews: IMDb 6.6, Metacritic 58%, RT 57% = The Last Stand (2006) IMDb 6.5, Metacritic 40%, RT 38% = Wolverine (2009) IMDb 6.8, Metacritic 52%, RT 47% = Apocalypse (2016)
Clay F
2025-02-26 13:41:47 +0000 UTCI'm pretty happy she listened to the people....Star Trek fans won.....this is what an OST movie would have looked like if they didn't wait till after Star Wars.
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 13:40:01 +0000 UTCWaste a reaction??? Are there limits now to reactions ???
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 13:38:08 +0000 UTCEscape and Conquest...Battle is ok
Chris Retzlaff
2025-02-26 13:32:30 +0000 UTC*Inserting 2 cents. I think the next 2 are a good watch. Not great but feel more in vibe with the first one. I think they would be good to watch as they were big inspirations for the reboots. I certainly hope Cassie continues her ...JOURNEY INTO THE PLANET OF THE APES! Sorry about that.
Rick Rodriguez
2025-02-26 13:30:14 +0000 UTCI'm going to try to explain the OG series without giving anything away. Remember how Quentin Tarantino movies and series don't always start at the beginning but somewhere in the middle or end? He was not the first one to do that. George Lucas started Star Wars on episode 4, near the middle. He was not the first one to do that. Also remember how the first movie started, with time travel and I know how much you love, love, love time travel! The next three movies will answer all your questions or you could give up and let someone explain the series to you. Then why bother watching movies at all?
Gregory Costello
2025-02-26 13:22:00 +0000 UTCIMDb 8.0, RT 86% = 1968 Original IMDb 6.0, RT 37% = Beneath (1970) IMDb 6.3, RT 76% = Escape (1971) - best of the 4 original sequels IMDb 6.1, RT 52% = Conquest (1972) - next best of the 4 IMDb 5.4, RT 36% = Battle (1973) IMDb 5.7, RT 43% = 2001 Burton remake IMDb 7.6, RT 82% = Rise (2011) IMDb 7.6, RT 91% = Dawn (2014) IMDb 7.4, RT 94% = War (2017) IMDb 6.9, RT 80% = Kingdom (2024)
Clay F
2025-02-26 13:11:04 +0000 UTCAfter the OG it was best to just move on to the newer Prequel trilogy with Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Even Tim Burton's 2001 remake of the original had more going for it that the 1970s sequels, and you heard how everyone raggged on that one. Yeah, I vote to just jump ahead to the far superior 2011 film and be amazed.
D. T. Nelson
2025-02-26 13:10:56 +0000 UTCIâd be perfectly content if you never watched another one of these from the franchise.
Alex Gorell
2025-02-26 13:00:14 +0000 UTCI think itâs time to move on, Cassie. Youâve already wasted enough time on these inferior sequels.
Richard Maurer
2025-02-26 12:59:17 +0000 UTCPlease watch the next two at least.
Jake McNulty
2025-02-26 12:56:30 +0000 UTCI agree. The only reason I wrote about it is that Cassie keeps asking the question, so I thought Iâd answer it for her.
Richard Maurer
2025-02-26 12:54:47 +0000 UTCYOU WERE WARNED! AND YOU DEFIED US!
rakesh
2025-02-26 12:52:49 +0000 UTCThe plan for the 4 original sequels could have been to skip Beneath (1970) and Battle (1973), and only react to Escape (1971) and Conquest (1972).
Clay F
2025-02-26 12:51:20 +0000 UTCAll of these movies don't bear any weight of intellectual scrutiny. I see this film tried to inject some nonsense about some kind of time vortex or something that the second crew of astronauts went through. Trying to make sense of something that was left beautifully unexplained in the first movie. I've seen some YouTube videos that tried to make "sense" of the Planet of the Apes movie's timelines. A foolish endeavor and a waste of time. These movies are for what ever enjoyment one can find from them, not to be analyzed.
Mike LL
2025-02-26 12:37:23 +0000 UTCThe whole planet of the apes series sucks, the new movies included. Carly said it perfectly. Gorilla's...on horses...with guns... What a concept. I hope PIB content will return to it's old form soon.
Jeri1979
2025-02-26 12:33:03 +0000 UTCNext two are better def keep watching
Jacob Gregg
2025-02-26 12:29:58 +0000 UTCOh how quickly the crowd turns, ha ha. I think a goodly portion thought this was the wrong road to go down. But we all knew this was a crappy movie. We told her it was. And as long as we are this far down the road, the next one, ESCAPE is a big upturn in quality from this one. I hope she continues!
Mike LL
2025-02-26 12:15:47 +0000 UTCHi Cassie, yeah Beneath has always been considered a low light of the originals. The next two are better. As for Apes evolving from men, they didnât. How the Apes came to conquer is yet to come!
Mark White
2025-02-26 12:13:24 +0000 UTCI'm waiting for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes
Katie Jackson
2025-02-26 12:08:29 +0000 UTCAs long as she has gotten this far, she might as well watch the next one, Escape, which is very entertaining and the best of the original sequels.
Mike LL
2025-02-26 12:07:26 +0000 UTCYou could react to the next original sequel (Escape which is the best of the four) that has Zira and Cornelius as central characters, and then decide whether to stop with the original sequels. 1. Beneath (1970) -- Worse (rated No. 3) 2. Escape (1971) -- Best (rated No. 1) -- next if you continue 3. Conquest (1972) -- Better (rated No. 2) 4. Battle (1973) -- Worst (rated No. 4)
Clay F
2025-02-26 11:36:23 +0000 UTCCassie to answer your question about the apes evolving from humans the answer is they didnât . In the first movie the Apes just thought they evolved from humans, they didnât know their species existed as primitives while the humans dominated the earth. I donât remember this film well enough ( I âm waiting for YT edit) to know if they implied that the apes evolved from humans but if they did then thatâs just bad writing - it makes no sense for three different ape species to evolve from one ape species (humans)
Richard Maurer
2025-02-26 11:30:04 +0000 UTCThree and four are interesting sequels worth watching to understand the concept of evolution in reverse. Then go to the new ones who have a different take on reverse evolution. I definitely understand your apprehension. Second sequel did not live up to the original.
Doc Larry
2025-02-26 11:21:40 +0000 UTCI think the next two films are worth watching. The next film, ESCAPE is actually the best of the original sequels, and it is very different! You will be surprised, that is for very sure!
Mike LL
2025-02-26 11:06:16 +0000 UTCI totally respect that opinion, but I think Cassie would enjoy the newer films more than that first original film.
Raven Dark
2025-02-26 11:05:07 +0000 UTCPlanet of the Apes (1968) Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971) Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973)
Clay F
2025-02-26 10:59:31 +0000 UTCCassie would plainly like the 2001 one better than Beneath (1970). I am not a huge fan of the 2001 one, but has excellent makeup effects and a good performance by Tim Roth.
Clay F
2025-02-26 10:57:08 +0000 UTCBeneath was definitely a cash grab.
Clay F
2025-02-26 10:53:24 +0000 UTCI love the ending of this movie but I had a feeling you wouldn't enjoy this one and that's why I advocated skipping to the 2011 reboot series after the OG. I think that's for the best
Choof
2025-02-26 10:52:52 +0000 UTCRise, War, Dawn, and Kingdom are all excellent, but the 1968 original is the best imo. The early 1970s four original sequels can be skipped -- more for hardcore fans.
Clay F
2025-02-26 10:52:24 +0000 UTCThe original 1st is the only one worth watching. The concept and intrigue was original and interesting. After that initial experience it's all just blah...
Patrick Crippen
2025-02-26 10:45:01 +0000 UTCStop it.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 10:35:03 +0000 UTCMy opinion: watch part three and then skip the rest and watch to the new ones.
The Sheeple
2025-02-26 10:34:13 +0000 UTCYes, please don't make us wait a few more months to get to the Apes films that are worth watching.
Joe Mallard
2025-02-26 10:29:16 +0000 UTCSame. Cassie is going to adore the new ones, and IMO, if she skips those, she's missing out on something truly wonderful.
Raven Dark
2025-02-26 10:28:23 +0000 UTCSo, yeah, that was the correct way to react to this movie. Horrible rehash. Horrible masks. Horrible story. Horrible ending. In my opinion, of course.
Philip Alan
2025-02-26 10:26:07 +0000 UTCCharlton Heston actually wasn't entirely on board for the sequel; he only agreed to appear on the condition that his character Taylor be killed. Heston also suggested the plot element of the Alpha Omega bomb, which studio president Richard Zanuck then suggested to director Ted Post before Zanuck was fired as studio president as a way of ending the series. However, producers were already considering ideas for the next sequel 'Escape from the Planet of the Apes'.
Donald Fleming
2025-02-26 10:25:58 +0000 UTCOops, I hit send on my last comment without meaning to. Oh well. I knew you wouldn't like this one. The original Planet of the Apes movies just get worse from here. My strong advice is, skip right to the newer ones, starting with Rise of The Planet of the Apes. Rise, Dawn, War, and now the more recent Kingdom, are absolutely fantastic, and those first three have one of my favorite characters of all time. I didn't love Kingdom as much as the other three, but it is still really good, and all have great special effects and acting. See, the reason people wanted you to watch the first original Planet of the Apes is because the newer ones, and especially Rise and Dawn, have callbacks to the first original film. It wasn't necessary for you to even watch the first, but understanding the callbacks enriches the experience of the modern films for those who have seen it, and at least for me, that first film, while a product of its time, for what it is, it's pretty cool. Also, I'm pretty sure they wanted you to see that first one because of the ending, which, as you saw, has a twist worthy of M. Night Shamylan, and the modern ones actually spoil it. Of the modern ones, if you exclude the Mark Walberge one from the 90s, which is a laughable joke, Rise is the weakest of the four new ones, but it's still great. I promise you, you will enjoy Rise, War, Dawn and Kingdom, but you'll LOVE Dawn and War.
Raven Dark
2025-02-26 10:24:49 +0000 UTCI agree, it's a little different, but I still enjoy it.
Ib-René JÞrgensen
2025-02-26 10:23:39 +0000 UTCGet this comment outta here, I love the old ones, but they will not be these girls interests
MorahBieno
2025-02-26 10:16:59 +0000 UTC3:50 AM central time... sigh... fine. I'll be a zombie tomorrow. Hail Cesar
Eric Wallace
2025-02-26 10:13:47 +0000 UTCContinue with the old ones and skip the new ones đ
Daniel Karlsson
2025-02-26 10:13:25 +0000 UTCI don't know why anyone would want to watch these crappy movies. No value! None whatsoever. Basically a waste of film & time. These are the equivalent of modern day cash grabs!!
fish_thefilmcollector
2025-02-26 10:13:03 +0000 UTCAgreed, I think the Tim Burton version isnât as bad as people think.
Dean Holt
2025-02-26 10:11:54 +0000 UTCAbsolutely not, weâre already on thin ice with this franchise, we canât risk too confusing back to back stinkers. Jump to Rise, Cassie, and itâll be safe to bring back Carly lol
MorahBieno
2025-02-26 10:11:23 +0000 UTCJust go straight to the new ones, you can always go back
Andrew Taylor
2025-02-26 10:10:26 +0000 UTCFirst time I saw this I just thought it was a poor ripoff of the first movie for the first half. And then I just thought it went a bit stupid when they found the other people. I think they where trying to make a big statement with the ending but it was just terrible. I personally wouldnât recommend you continue on here due to I canât see you getting many views on YouTube. I also think all of them are just average to poor films. But if you did watch them all I would be ok with it but just probably wouldnât watch them. Maybe see how this does on YouTube and make up your mind then.
Dean Holt
2025-02-26 10:09:39 +0000 UTCNo need for the tim burton one either.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 10:09:06 +0000 UTCExactly.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 10:08:17 +0000 UTCYep please just skip to the 2011 versions. I have no clue why people thought it was worth watching all of them. They are really bad. I absolutely promise you will like the new ones starting at Rise of the Planet of the Apes though. One of the best trilogies of the 21st century. Kingdom is solid too.
shaneth138
2025-02-26 10:07:31 +0000 UTCThe 6th is good though. It's called Every Which But Loose.
Clarence Newman
2025-02-26 10:07:11 +0000 UTC*Sigh*
Raven Dark
2025-02-26 10:07:00 +0000 UTCThe Tim Burton one gets a lot of hate, but I kind of liked it. Maybe Tim's the problem.
Clarence Newman
2025-02-26 10:06:29 +0000 UTCActually it's: Planet of the Apes Beneath the Planet of the Apes Escape from the Planet of the Apes Conquest of the Planet of the Apes Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Donald Fleming
2025-02-26 10:01:58 +0000 UTCHaving just watched the intro (I'll wait for the YT edit on this one), I'm getting Scent of a Woman flashbacks. Every time Cassie gets Charlton Heston's name wrong, a testy, Frank Slade voice in my head says "His name is not Charles."
Clarence Newman
2025-02-26 10:01:53 +0000 UTCYou could see from a mile away that the OG sequels would be a waste of time. But some people just canât help themselves. Made you waste a reaction for possibly nothing smh⊠Please just jump forward to the new series, they are truly great.
Shehab Dawoud
2025-02-26 09:59:46 +0000 UTCagreed
Super Powered Design (Jim)
2025-02-26 09:59:12 +0000 UTCShould have listened to the people! Original series was ONE, then dip out. This movie was horrible! Stop watching NOW. lol.
Super Powered Design (Jim)
2025-02-26 09:58:31 +0000 UTCYeesh. Let battle commence, because whether or not to continue watching the originals is more polar than the average bear.
Clarence Newman
2025-02-26 09:57:15 +0000 UTCMy suggestion at this point is just skip it all and go straight to Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Forget everything from this one and only keep in mind the original, which in itself is also a product of its time.
MorahBieno
2025-02-26 09:56:05 +0000 UTCThey are just going to worse and more ridiculous from here. I would jump to the Time Burton one from 2001 and then the newer ones.
Ib-René JÞrgensen
2025-02-26 09:55:48 +0000 UTCNo, see, I KNEW this was gonna happen. There are pretty good older apes films that come after this, but this one is NOT one of them. Donât take this to mean you shouldnât watch the 4 modern apes films, they are GREAT, and arent even strongly connected in terms of canon to the older ones, itâs more so just a reboot of the franchise!
MorahBieno
2025-02-26 09:54:43 +0000 UTCI think there are 5 original ones. Planet, beneat, beyond, escape I am sure there is a fifth EDIT: Conquest. That was it
Brian McGovern
2025-02-26 09:54:40 +0000 UTC
