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Star Trek: Insurrection (1998) - Full Reaction

These are so flippin fun! I did not love it as much as first contact, but still had a great time. It felt like an extended TNG episode and that was not a bad thing for me. Can’t believe we’re almost done 🥺

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With the exception of First Contact, all the Next Generation movies felt like TV Shows. As a fan of TNG, that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just for movies you want a bit more of a wow factor, like next level.

McShades

She got the first book already in an unboxing earlier this year.

Kelly Oehlschlager

JD, you are in the minority. IMDb average ratings of Trek series given by users: --Picard S3 (2023) 8.8 --TNG (1987–1994) 8.7 --TOS (1966–1969) 8.4 --DS9 (1993–1999) 8.1 --Voyager (1995–2001) 7.9 --Enterprise (2001-2005) 7.6 Picard S3 is not my favorite, but is good and Cassie would love it -- and is better than ending Trek on the channel. Respectfully, you reply comes off as gibberish to me.

Clay F

Clay you really enjoyed Picard season 3 and I'm happy for you, however that character is not nearly the same as in TNG or even the first couple movies. Once Patrick Stewart starting changing the core character in the Insurrection negotiation Jean-Luc Picard was killed and replaced by Jean-Luc Patrick Stewart. Having Cass react to a really terrible series is not how I want her to remember these classic characters. Truly awful stuff they somehow produced, filmed and released to little to no fanfare. Thankfully it streamed on an app that has about 2% of views that an average channel receives. Star Trek Discovery was so awful that even during Covid with NO NEW TV coming out at the time CBS tried airing Disco and the ratings were so bad they never did it for any other seasons of that show even tho they really had nothing else to air. They chose nothing over that. Let Kurtzman have his toys and his fun but I peaced out long ago.

JD

I have no idea where some people get off just bald faced making things up. Why?

JD

Why would you recommend the second book in a series? Just read the entire Imzadi book series.

JD

There is absolutely no way she can watch select episodes of DS9. That would be a disservice to her and the wonderful team that made that show. Voyager is one she can bounce around with as is Enterprise

JD

The Picard we see in that series is not the same as what we see in the shows and movies. They completely change his backstory, they ignore his established family and he is simply a shell of what we loved. Not to mention the absolutely atrocious writing.

JD

Gene wasn't even alive at this point. Do you need to go back on your meds or is this some lame humour?

ShazD

I never get why S1 of Picard gets such a bad rap. I think it's brilliant. S2 was disappointing, and S3 is perfection!

Peter Rising

I agree. Even if you (Cassie) do a similar thing that you did with TNG just allow us to help pick say 3-4 eps / season its well worth it

Abraham Walters

Yeah I couldn't get through Enterprise initially when it was running on TV, but years later I got through it and loved it more than other non-current series except for Voyager. mid-Season 2 and entire Season 3 arc got me in the feels similar to Voyager, and that's to be experiencing the crew's journey and being "fly on the wall" on the ship.

Tech Citizen

This one suffered from timing, not to mention first contact being a tough followup. 98 was a good year for movies and it just got lost in the shuffle. Deep Space 9 was also in its best seasons.

Bubba Fett

I agree with everyone’s ideas on what Star Trek Cassie watches next. All in all Picard season 3 is a must. It will resolve so much for her ❤️

Billy Higgins

I could just never get into enterprise and I still can’t. I’m not sure why. I don’t have a problem with what happens in it I guess I just don’t gel with the storytelling. It feels like I’m watching a corny low budget show on TNT or something

Billy Higgins

Great reply. Thanks Twisted.

Clay F

You could maybe do select episodes of DS9 for the first 3 seasons, but after that, it wouldn't be possible. I'm not even sure it would be very advisable for the last few seasons of Voyager once 7 of 9 shows up and longer serialized arcs started occuring.

TwistedMagoo

I guess maybe you won't do it for the channel (although it would be fun if you did) but Deep Space Nine is well worth watching. My personal favorite Trek series. (If you do, the stuff about the Dominion and the weakness of the Federation will retroactively make a lot more sense)

TwistedMagoo

You should lose your voice more often, sounds good - not as shrill as usual (;-) kidding!). Kind of ironic in a film about regressing to younger selves, you sound like a teenager.

John Drake

But probably not for the channel. As much as I would like to watch it, that would take way too long.

Daniel Turbyfill

I’ve always thought this movie was under-rated. Cassie should absolutely watch Deep Space Nine, but probably just on her own. There’s no way to watch just 4 to 6 episodes a season and be able to keep up with the over arching story. At least not once you get past season 2. Sometimes you have a story that stretches over 4 or 5 episodes.

Daniel Turbyfill

I love this movie

Dustin Taylor

I had forgotten how delightful this movie is! Yes, I'm a Trekkie (or Trekker, for those that prefer a different term) from way back, but I enjoy the personal interactions among the crew almost as much as Cassie does. Anyone who's been a Kernel for very long knew that Cassie would love this! And I think she nailed it at the end: If First Contact is a 10, then this movie is a 7 1/2 or so... and that's fine with me. 👍👍

Phil Stubblefield

It would be best if you still took a crack at Star Trek: Deep Space 9

Jonathan Morerod

Data: "Saddle up. Lock and load."

Clay F

I never understood the criticism that "it's like an extended episode." Why is that a bad thing? It would get old if every movie had them saving the Earth or the universe all the time. Also, if anyone has the blurays, I recommend listening to the Jonathan Frakes/Marina Sirtis commentary track on a future viewing. They are fun together.

greggreggreg2000

I had never seen this one. It was very charming. You could tell Jonathan Frakes directed, getting all the sexy time with Deanna. 😀 They also really upped the goofiness with Data. "Is Admiral Akbar acting alone?" had me rolling.

Ian A

Yes, many do argue that DS9 is the best Trek series. It's a constant theme that I read about. IMDb average ratings of Trek series given by users: --Picard S3 (2023) 8.8 --TNG (1987–1994) 8.7 --TOS (1966–1969) 8.4 --DS9 (1993–1999) 8.1 --Voyager (1995–2001) 7.9 --Enterprise (2001-2005) 7.6 My personal ranking of Trek series: 1. TNG 2. TOS 3. DS9 4. Voyager 5. Picard S3 I don't even include Enterprise in my personal ranking. It's down there with Discovery and The Animated Series (1973-1975).

Clay F

Engage.

Ben Schwartz

Star Trek is like Lucy to Cassie's Charlie Brown. All she wants is for one good kiss to sail through the uprights at some point in the movie, but the writers always yank the ball away at the last minute. I think we should send her a Picard and Crusher doll. Then she can play the "Jean-Luc and Beverly sitting in a tree" game to her heart's content.

Clarence Newman

One of things I love that Cassie does now is when the suspense is up and someone is about to turn a machine on or shoot something, she'll say "Engage." I think it's hilarious.

Ben Schwartz

I don't think I said DS9 is the best series... did I? Also -- It took me well over 15 years before I even gave Enterprise a shot. But I loved it and still love it. Archer is probably my second-favorite captain now, after Picard. Great show whose ending came too soon.

Ben Schwartz

I love how you make me take a new look at Star Treks I didn't like the first time around. As a result I haven't seen this since it was released and I don't know why I didn't like it back then . Maybe I was in my edge-lord phase.

Scott Macaulay

The popular fan take is that this movie has always felt more like a high budget two part episode than a feature film. I'm more or less in that camp. I don't think it's a terrible movie but they're on Planet California full of "aliens" who look identical to humans. There wasn't a ton of effort put into this from an imagination standpoint. Unfortunately, it's still better than Nemesis, the final movie.

p0sthum4n

You can still have some more TNG fun if you watch Picard. Seasons 1 and 2 were not great, but you will love Season 3.

Steve Hernandez

Cassie with a cold sounds like Shailene Woodley. I'll allow it.

Odd Thomas

Cassie you should read Imzadi 2 book. It goes into what happened with Deanna and Worf after Generations movie.

Kelly Oehlschlager

Just finished watching and I have a couple of observations: 1) I love that Cassie is a Trekkie now, but sometimes I'm reminded of how new she is to the Trek universe. When the Away team first beams down to the planet, the crew we know and love are at the front, with a group of unknown actors at the back. When they materialise, Cassie smiles and says, "It's the A-Team." A veteran Trekkie's response to that would be, "No. The A-Team is in the front. The guys at the back are The Expendables." 2) Filmmakers do like to mess with Anthony Zerbe's face, don't they? He's a leper in Papillon, his head explodes in the compression chamber in Licence to Kill, and he gets face-lifted to death in this one. I don't think vanity was a big issue for Anthony. And 3) If there's a future where women no longer care about the firmness of their boobs, I don't want to be part of it.

Clarence Newman

Yeah I’ve always thought this one felt like a average episode over a big movie type feel. And even though I can enjoy it for what it is It’s the worst out of the four TNG films for me. And I also thought the CGI looked terrible most of the time. I also think it’s a floored story as they said they had moved to the planet that was in Federation space, and was a warp capable species. So why did they have to cloak themselves at the beginning. As they had every right to move them somewhere else. But they could have probably made this better and made it about a mission the Enterprise had to do in the Dominion war (which is only very briefly mentioned). They then could have included DS9 where they get briefed about the mission and that’s how they got Worf back. instead of him just popping up out of nowhere 😂.

Dean Holt

DS9 is the best ST series? Are you kidding me? They sit on a space station and didn't get to 'trek' anywhere until they lost ratings and folks almost stopped watching them, so they got a little ship (and Worf) to drive around. And Enterprise had Scott Bakula. 'Nuff said.

crazyivan

I'm less than Star Struck by this one

John Sullivan

Might not be a bad idea as a few of my non loving Trek friends all really enjoyed the 3 movies. And I personally really liked them all even the 2nd one which I know lots of people had a problem with (no spoilers to why).

Dean Holt

I'm with David on this one, Rakesh. There's no way Cassie would ever skip the first two seasons of Picard, no matter how varied the opinions are about the first two. And no, it's not fair to jump forward and back and around, especially as she literally has no time limit in regard to when she watches them. In my opinion, the schedule (over a period of years) should be: 1) Finish the TNG films 2) The Pine films Then a break. (because that's what Cassie set in stone a long time ago and it's going to happen anyway) 3) A few more TOS episodes, to sweep up the good ones she missed. 4) A few more TNG episodes, to sweep up the good ones she missed. 5) Come up with a plan for DS9 that doesn't truncate the story arc. Again, what's the rush? She has years! 6) Voyager, which she can watch the same way she did TNG - 4-6 episodes a season, plus the end of season cliffhangers. 7) All 3 seasons of Picard. We can talk all day long about why she should skip the first two seasons, but we all know she won't so the point is moo. That would be it for me. She could do Enterprise as well but it's eminently skippable and would probably disappoint Cassie as much as it did us, and I'll leave the 21st century stuff to those who care about it.

Clarence Newman

Goldmember

V M

Michael. Cassie is forbidden to watch any Star Trek without us, as per clause 7 of the Khitomer Accords.

Clarence Newman

She's going to stop after the Pine movies. That's already been decided. But she'll definitely come back to it later.

Clarence Newman

No rush. In the immortal words of Louis Armstrong, she has all the time in the world.

Clarence Newman

One more TNG movie to go for Captain Cassie

V M

Thanks for the good reply. I agree. At least a year break. Assuming that she will not react to DS9 b/c not feasible to watch abbreviated, then you would prefer over ending Trek on the channel to see her is react to Voyager (approached similar to TNG) and that's with her having TNG/DS9 background deficiencies. A lower priority choice over ending Trek on the channel is for her to react to Picard S3.

Clay F

Yep. Enterprise is skippable.

Clarence Newman

First of all, I would take at least a year long break after the Kelvin movies, because ST over-dominated the schedule already for more than a year now. It would be a different thing if Cassie could react to a series besides her regular 3 movies per week, but that seems to be the upper limit and reacting to any series takes away from reacting to movies. DS9 should only be reacted to if the entire series is included. Otherwise, I’d suggest skipping it altogether rather than risking an incomplete and inferior experience that relies on reading comments to fill in the gaps. Voyager poses its own challenges as well. Since she skipped most, if not all, of the TNG episodes that set up the Maquis conflict, and might also skip all the relevant DS9 episodes, it would make understanding the primary conflicts in the early seasons much harder. Beyond that, Voyager could be approached similarly to TNG, but it would come with the same drawbacks of missing some critical context and character development that happens over the series, which would especially affect a character joining the crew at a later season. I find Picard to be significantly inferior to both of these series, so I can’t support prioritizing it while skipping the better ones. Along with Discovery, it nearly destroyed everything I loved about Star Trek. While S3 is an improvement, it still suffers from many of the same core issues. Moreover, since it not only serves as a bookend for the TNG crew but heavily draws on the events and characters from the other series, I can’t get behind recommending it while the series it builds upon are skipped. My suggestion is to watch Picard only after DS9 and Voyager, or to watch it only if there’s a decision to skip those two series for good having no intention to ever watching them.

Gábor Árki

She did miss a lot with TNG, that's for sure. This is serious question: Do you think it would have been better for her to react to 0 episodes of TNG than the 45 episodes of TNG she reacted to? I love DS9. Assuming she takes a long break with Trek after the Kelvin films -- and then in the distant future, she decides to return to Trek but refuses to react to DS9 because not feasible to react to in an abbreviated fashion, what would be your preferred option below? 1. Do not return to Trek. Instead, Trek ends on the channel. No more Trek. 2. React to Voyager in a abbreviated fashion, as she did with TNG. 3. React to select episodes of Picard S1 and all 10 episodes of Picard S3.

Clay F

I think watching DS9 with a heavily reduced number of episodes would be a terrible idea. Even with TNG, I felt this approach was somewhat problematic, and she missed not only some great episodes but also many important character moments. With DS9 though, its greatest strength lies in its highly serialized storytelling, with overarching narratives and intricate character arcs. This includes not just the main cast but also 20-30 recurring characters. Trying to cherry-pick just a few dozen episodes would do the series a huge disservice, stripping away much of its depth and nuance.

Gábor Árki

Good points. I just don’t see her reacting to DS9. Maybe the DS9 experts could come up with a way to reasonably do an abbreviated number of episodes, similar to what she did with TNG. I would love to see her react to Voyager. I think she would like it. If she doesn’t react to DS9 or Voyager, then Picard S3 would be better than nothing.

Clay F

That's the lesser problem. The bigger one in my opinion is that jumping right into Picard would spoil multiple character and story arcs of DS9 and Voyager.

Gábor Árki

She may react to the Chris Pine ST movies. What I like about Voyager is she could react to that with an abbreviated number of episodes, as she did with TNG. I liked Picard S1 and S3. She could react to select episodes of S1 and all 10 episodes of S3. I never could get into Enterprise. While I am partial to TNG, DS9 is arguably the best ST series but may be difficult to react to in an abbreviated fashion. I do very much like Voyager and think Cassie would too. I am sentimental with TOS.

Clay F

I think even Season 3 struggles with many of the same issues that plagued the first two seasons, though these are largely overshadowed by the fan service ramped up to the extreme. A significant downside to watching Picard is that it spoils certain character and story arcs from the other series, DS9 and Voyager.

Gábor Árki

Yet another great reaction despite losing voice! Next one to me has a lot of cool and emotional moments and I look forward to your reaction to it.

Tech Citizen

Thanks for watching Star Trek, Cassie! ST isn't everyone's cup of tea but I love it so much. It helped me through some rough times when I was a kid, and Jean-Luc Picard was a big role-model for me growing up... he's always been like a fictional Mr. Rogers for me. Also -- the Riker/Troi thing is real! You'll have to keep watching ST to figure out just how real it is! lol ;-) After the last TNG movie, if you still feel like watching more, I recommend you get started on Star Trek Voyager... you'll love it. Star Trek Enterprise with Scott Bakula is also an underrated gem and Star Trek Deep Space 9 is up there with TNG. And eventually, you might get to the recent Star Trek Picard... all three seasons are worth watching, but Season 3 is really where it's at for fans of the 90's ST shows like TNG. And if you get through all of that and enjoy it... there is still A LOT of Star Trek left out there to discover! But if you decide that you've had enough ST for the channel after the final ST:TNG movie, well that's fine too... maybe down the road you'll get into it on your own.

Ben Schwartz

It's probably been 15 years since I've seen this movie. It was definitely better than I remember. Sad to see this Trek journey winding down. I have mixed feelings about the reboot movies. They are good scf-fi movies and for the most part the cast did a good job, but they don't feel like Star Trek movies to me. But I feel that way with most Trek past Enterprise, all flash and no soul. Looking forward to Nemesis and other Trek adventures in the future.

Verteron

Agree. But better than nothing. She reacted to about 45 episodes. I wish would have been a few more.

Clay F

Hey Cassie! you have a typo on this one's title. It reads Trek is misspelled. Great Reaction by the way

Walter Crockett

Cassie missed a lot of good TNG episodes.

V M

Agree that S3 is the best. I couldn't hardly get through S2. There were certain aspects of S1 that I liked (and think Cassie would like), but S3 is clearly the best.

Clay F

Picard Season 3 is the only one worth watching. The first two are horrible. Patrick Stewart had creative control over the first two seasons and it’s unbelievable he allowed his character to be destroyed. He was removed from creative control for season 3. The result was amazing. The send off that TNG didn’t get.

Bruce Redfield

In the director’s cut, Worf explained that they got them onto the holodeck while thinking it was the actual ship by employing a variation of Lex Luthor Maneuver (where Zod, Ursa, and Non didn’t realize THEY were actually in the crystal chamber instead of Superman). But Gene Roddenberry couldn’t get the rights to make the reference in time for the theatrical release. Mario Puzo (who wrote The Godfather) wrote Superman II and apparently all of the initial offers for these rights COULD be refused. Or so I heard . . .

2-Can

I am hoping you react to the Chris Pine movies. In the distant future, if you decide to return to Trek, consider the following. 1. "Picard" series (3 seasons, 10 episodes each) (2020-2023). Picard S3 (which has been characterized as TNG S8) (IMDb 8.8) "is a fitting conclusion to TNG and a good farewell for beloved characters." You don't have to watch S1 or S2, or you could watch select episodes of S1 and S2. Picard S3 reasonably stands alone. 2. "Deep Space Nine" (7 seasons) (1993-1999) (IMDb 8.1). Many consider the best Trek series, but is very serial and thus difficult to abbreviate the number of episodes -- yet I defer to the experts. DS9 is excellent. Watch for the performances. Good acting. Good writing. Has plenty of action, but the show is really about social issues and inspires philosophical discussion. 3. "Voyager" (7 seasons) (1995-2001) (IMDb 7.9). I liked Voyager. A female captain. You could skip DS9 reactions (because no reasonable way to abbreviate the number of episodes) and go straight to Voyager which you could abbreviate the number of episodes as you did with TNG. 4. IMDb average ratings of Trek series given by users: --Picard S3 (2023) 8.8 --TNG (1987–1994) 8.7 --TOS (1966–1969) 8.4 --DS9 (1993–1999) 8.1 --Voyager (1995–2001) 7.9 --Picard S1 (2020) 7.6 --Enterprise (2001-2005) 7.6 --Discovery (2017-2024) 7.0 --Picard S2 (2022) 6.6

Clay F

That was better than I've remembered, I guess following such a hit like First Contact caused a lot of us(youngsters) to be dissapointed with Insurrection in the 90s but I really enjoyed watching it now with your reaction, maybe it's also because I'm older now and not a child so I see things differently, that thought would correspond rather nicely with the story of the movie, the effects also looked much better than I remembered, maybe because the last time I've seen it I've watched it on a VHS...

Eyal P

I agree that this feels much more like an episode than a cinematic adventure - but that doesn't bother me at all. It feels like a really good episode and I love it. Also, and I've said this a lot, so forgive me - but you really should check out Star Trek DS9. It's another great Star Trek show (my personal favorite) with another group of great characters. No reason to give up on this Star Trek Universe after the next movie!

Walter

Donna Murphy is an incredible talent. She's a long time Broadway musical actress. Her real personality could not be more different compared to the soft-spoken character in Insurrection. Cassie and other PIB subscribers check her out on the youtube celebration of Sondheim's 80th birthday.

John Liebling

I don't know much about Star Trek except the title and it's typed out wrong there haha Just thought I'd point that out

Jyn Jilly

So stoked for the Kelvin films. I really think she'll like them.

aarswft

Similar to your thoughts, I viewed this movie as a good 2-parter episode. (First Contact is my favorite TNG movie.) I am glad to to be revisiting these TNG movies with your reactions. Data: "Saddle up. Lock and load." Beverly and Deanna looking good. I agree that Anij is "very very hot." Picard: "I've always been attracted to older women." To me the best Picard romance (not counting the Beverly thing or the odd situation having a wife on the dead world Kataan) is in TNG S3 "Captain's Holiday," which I think you would have liked. A mental, emotional, and physical romance. That episode showed a lot of skin -- both of women and Picard. Riker loves that place (Risa) and pulled one on Picard -- Riker can be hilarious. I wondered if you recognized F. Murray Abraham (Ru'afo) through the make up -- he gave that stellar performance as Salieri in Amadeus (1984). There are one or two aspects of Insurrection that remind me (not in a strict sense) of TNG S3 "Who Watches the Watchers" (a prime directive episode) which I like and think you would like -- finished 5th in the S3 final poll (just missed being in the top 4). Apparently, in the Briar Patch shop of the Magic Kingdom (which I know nothing about), a small stuffed animal of Winnie the Pooh appeared in Br'er Rabbit's home.

Clay F

I love this movie. Cassie - Do you watch The Gilded Age on HBO/MAX? It's a really good series and one of the stars is Donna Murphy, the women who played Anij, Picard's love interest. She is a fantastic actress. She voiced the character of Mother Gothel in Disney's Tangled and sang Mother Knows Best. She's also a Tony winning broadway actress. I'm on board with whatever Star Trek you move on to, as long as the order makes sense so you're not lost

Tracey Mendenhall Porreca

I've always liked this movie. I think the reason so many people think it's worse than it is, is because it came after First Contact. I was really looking forward to you seeing Riker and Troi's relationship unfold on here. They've always been a favorite of mine. My biggest Star Trek ship and there are some really good one's in this franchise. Worf and Troi where not together for very long before they both moved on. I would love to see you react to anything Star Trek that you decide to do but I understand if you decide to take a break or stop all together. We still have one more movie. It will probably be your least favorite but I think you'll still like most of it just like I do. P.S. The kid in Insurrection (Artim) was also in the Twilight Franchise, he played Mike. It took me quite awhile to realize it though. Probably not a lot of crossover fans of both Star Trek & Twilight 🤣

Katie Jackson

Its unfortunate, the original crew got a good send off movie with ST6, but the next one is the weakest of the TNG moves I think. I used to think it was Generations but that one has grown on me over time. But Nemesis is just not really all that good.

Miguel

Cassie, I know it's been said but DS9 is what you're looking for in Star Trek, and I mean everything.

Desmond King Descepticon

I like Nemesis but it's my least favorite of the TNG movies. It does have it's moments though

Katie Jackson

Like Phoebe on Friends when she’s sick, and wants to stay sick for her sexy singing voice

Cole Jennett

I do hope that you continue the Trek journey with Deep Space Nine and Voyager after watching Nemesis. Even if you do have to do a "top five" or "top ten" for each season, they are both really worth watching. The TNG/DS9/Voyager era goes something like this: -Deep Space Nine premiered between episodes 11 and 12 of TNG's 6th season. -Generations hit theaters between episodes 8 and 9 of DS9's 3rd season. -Voyager premiered between episodes 12 and 13 of DS9's 3rd season. -First Contact hit theaters between episodes 8 and 9 of DS9's 5th season (but takes place between episode 9 and 10 in the Trek Universe timeline). -Insurrection hit theaters between episodes 9 and 10 of DS9's 7th season. -Nemesis hit theaters a year and a half after Voyager's final episode.

Dustin Denner

I agree about the Chris Pine movies. Looking forward to those. As for the TNG movies, I like First Contact. Nemesis is generally considered the worst of the TNG movies, but not by much compared to Insurrection and Generations. "Nemesis has an interesting premise and some good action scenes, but the whole affair feels a bit tired." I don't remember Nemesis that well and will see what I think. IMDb 6.4, Metacritic 51%, RT 38% (audience 49%) -- Nemesis IMDb 6.4, Metacritic 64%, RT 55% (audience 44%) -- Insurrection IMDb 6.6, Metacritic 55%, RT 47% (audience 57%) -- Generations IMDb 7.6, Metacritic 70%, RT 93% (audience 89%) -- First Contact IMDb 7.9, Metacritic 82%, RT 94% (audience 91%) -- Star Trek (2009)

Clay F

The Episode Movie! The lower stakes definitely enhance this movie. It's not as exciting as FIRST CONTACT but also lacks that movie's many many MANY logic problems. I do hate Riker losing the beard though.

Patrick Flanagan

Good ifldwa and logical thinking but Cassie doesn't have time for alit with 2 channels now! How could see to an exclusive TV channel and feel like she gets no down time?? Maybe in a few years after h we r kids are like teenagers but thats 2 much to ask for a 3rd channel

David Freese

...I have never heard anyone say they even liked NEMESIS, let alone claim it as the best. But to each their own!

Patrick Flanagan

Then we need to let Cassie stop after the Kelvin movies. It'll be fair to everyone.

David Freese

Do you think that's fair for other fans of other series to skip other series to get one season of another season that just finished?? Plus you know Cassie wouldn't skip 2 other seasons of a series to watch the final one. Makes no sense.

David Freese

To me, this is by far the worst of the TNG films. While I really like First Contact, the final - NEMESIS - is the best of the four. Really looking forward to the newest Star Treks, though. I do really like the Chris Pine/new Star Treks. They're so much more than they get credit for.

Terdell Ferguson

Star Trek doesn't always have to be a high octane movie. Just a good story with character development can be just as fun. I like this movie more every time I see it.

Fanchman

While it is is a step down from first contact, this was actually better than I remembered. True though, it does feel like a long episode more than a feature. The combination of your sultry rasp with the endless search for romance and smooches made this a fun watch. It put a smile on my face and as much as I know some of your followers have had enough trek , I'm somewhat sad it's coming to an end.

Canadianant

I actually like this one more than First Contact, it's a lot of fun and has a lot of great moments. I really wish they'd have explored the dynamics of Ba'ku society. Given the stark generational divides in our societies between Baby Boomers/Gen X/Millennials/What-ever-young-people-are-called-now, I think it's fascinating to imagine a world where people from hundreds of years worth of generations coexist together. If humans from 300 years ago were still alive now, would we still have a large contingent of people that feel slavery is totally acceptable? Would Planck's principle hold back scientific progress, and would it also hold back social progress? Would democracy still be able to function? Would society be able to reach a consensus on anything at all? I think that the only way for a society like that to survive is if it is completely static, where the future can never be better, only more of the same. No new ideas, no new inventions, no new discoveries, no sense of generational identity - just people living identical lives over and over until the heat death of the universe. The Son'a are clearly a reaction to this, a generation of young people with no hope for the future gravitating towards an extreme ideology, and I empathise with their situation (not that it justifies their actions at all). In the end I think death is a feature, not a bug, in human society. When we die, our prejudices and shortcomings have a chance to die with us and not be passed down to the next generation, and we have to hope that they carry the best of us forward whilst leaving the worst of us behind. The movie briefly flirts with some of these ideas but then just kind of glosses over them. Much as I love it, I think there's a much more interesting version of this movie that could have existed.

Ian Tonge

I always wanted to know what it would be like if a Peanuts character recorded a reaction video.

Lemurian Jones

“Ok! Make out already!” When they don’t “ughhhh!” Never change Cassie, never change.

Cole Jennett

But even then the physical sets are reused from voyager and well they look like TV sets. Where did the extra budget go?

Night King01

Just one more. Well... one more and then the three reboot Star Trek Movies.

D. T. Nelson

I think some history of Seven, the rest can be picked up well enough from Picard season 3 to enjoy the show. Don't have to get in the weeds of all the detail to enjoy the it.

Joe R

TOS is great, it gets a bit worse every time after that

Witchfinder General

She would have to have a crash course on the plot of DS9. The Dominion and such. IIts even referenced in the next movie.

RJ MacReady

I would love it but thats too much.

RJ MacReady

I am not sure how well that would work without knowledge of Voyager and Deep Space 9.

Galaeanyss Freyja

I think your watch list should be: Voyager (you can do a "best of the season" format with it much easier than DS9), then the Pine movies, then Picard. Then I guess we can go from there but that is what I recommend. DS9 would be great but I'm not sure you're ready for a time commitment like that cause it gets pretty dense in the later seasons.

FleetAdmiralJ

P.S. Your impression of the bad guy's scream was very good, Cassie!👏

Chris Clarke

Felt like TNG??? They even used the same music! 😄 😂

JRCortez

If you want kissing on Star Trek, Cassie, do check out Deep Space 9 (not District 9, lol!) when you can. 😊

Chris Clarke

I grew up on Star Trek and have multiple copies of TOS on dvd and blu ray. Watched all the Next Generation episodes when they first came out and have seen them multiple times in rerun. Thought DS9 was a superb continuation of the series. I’ve seen all the films and enjoyed them, with the exception of the three starring Chris Pine and co-starring his pal, CGI, which I thought were inferior in every respect other than effects. All that said, I’m glad this is almost over. It’s taken up too much time from other possible reactions. Although I could be persuaded otherwise if movies the quality of Son in Law continue to be on offer instead.

Just Plain Bob

Not before DS9 and Voyager.

Dustin Denner

F.Murray Abraham who is usually a fantastic actor is so, so bad as the villain.

Choof

Gotta remember that Worf left the enterprise. He is living his own life on Deep Space 9 and having his own relationships. Yes Worf has full on romance on DS9 and I think you’d love it.

djKENTO

What's Star Strek?

V M

Brer Rabbit: look up Uncle Remus. It's American literature I believe. 🙂

Chris Clarke

It might be just me, but I think Cassie's sultry little phlegm voice is reminiscent of Rachel Ward in Sharky's Machine (1981). I'm all for her keeping it.

Clarence Newman

At the beginning those were the ones she wanted to watch most, so a definitive yes

Cole Jennett

That's a good post, Rakesh. You brought some of your inner Vulcan out with that one.

Clarence Newman

Also regarding your confusion about why weapons cause damage through shielding is a bit complex to explain. Essentially shields can't block kinetic force entirely, so it gets transferred to buffers that occasionally overload and discharge the force evenly.

Laura Thornley

You really should move on to Picard season 3 (1 and 2 are less TNG related). Season 3 wraps up all the TNG lingering questions. Some of the questions you always ask are answered.

Joe R

It must continue with Picard Season 1, 2 and 3.

RJ MacReady

@ Clarence Newman Not again. Picard Season 3. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!

rakesh

I'd be all for a tv channel. I mean it make actual sense. Shows like tng and stargate are Evergreen because of a franchise fanbase. But people watch a lot more tv then movies now. Changeing tastes, no one want to go to theaters, Big budgets on tv shows, Larger expansive stories. But its a huge ask time wise. She has a family and I think watching movie and tv series days after day would drain the life out of anyone business or not. This is why its we shoudl stter her away from things like son in law and howard the duck. We failed her!!!!!!!!!!!!

rakesh

I am of the mind to not expect anything. 40 episodes does not even being to capture everything. Having rewatched it this summer, I would say there are only maybe a dozen episodes that don’t have some contribution to ongoing plots. Most of the tv watching has been to help with the movies. Once the TNG movies are done, I feel it is okay to not expect any more series watches. Let Cassie explore and watch on her own. If she wishes to watch and share with us that is great, but we should not be expecting anything more.

Michael G

We get into this every trek post, and everyone has the same opinion, and everyone states it again. It's like the episode "Cause and Effect." For completion's sake, I'll add my two cents. She'll watch "Nemesis" and think, "This can't be it." She'll watch Picard Season 3 after a bit of a hiatus. Calm down, Mike Lemon, we know! Picard is 10 episodes; there's no picking and choosing like previous seasons because it's one arc. And it's a big ask. It makes no sense for 20 episodes of lackluster Picard Seasons 1 and 2. Aint no body got tiem for that. Why waste her time with mediocre Trek? Give her 20 episodes of TNG or VOY. DS9 isn't going to happen unless she clears out a lot in her schedule. The arcs make it impossible to do voting. I did do a list of DS9 episodes which featured heavily in Seasons 4, 5, 6, and 7. But it would be about 20 episodes more than she watched for TNG. Maybe she will, maybe she won't. I'll be happy if she does Picard Season 3 as it bookends the TNG series and the movies. Maybe then... Stargate SG-1! (Maybe I'm kidding, Mike Lemon. Maybe I'm not!)

rakesh

We're one step closer to DS9 and/or Voyager. DS9 is a hard sell, though there is a hatchet viewlist that gets most of the plot condensed into about 40 episodes (though it does mean missing out on some excellent 'stand alone' episodes). Voyager, on the other hand, may be right up Cassie's street and fits well into the episodic viewing. It maybe needs a few episodes of DS9 for some needed context - but maybe only Emissary and The Marquis two parters so you know what's happening during the first episode of Caretaker.

Laura Thornley

The Pine movies will be it for now, and then there'll be a long break to let the non-Trekkies recover. In a year or so's time, it'll be back again, but it's unclear what she'll watch. Maybe some more TOS, probably some more TNG, very likely some Voyager, and also DS9 if we can figure out how she can watch such an interlaced story arc of a series without it taking over the channel.

Clarence Newman

At the risk of a DS9 spoiler, Worf met someone else in his new workplace... I'll leave it at that, Cassie!😊

Chris Clarke

With time I don't even think the TOS movies fit with that model anymore. My opinion of The Motion Picture and Search for Spock have improved dramatically the last few years. Though Final Frontier is still by far the worst/least good.

Laura Thornley

Honestly even season two of Picard was alright, if chaotic in its pacing. The first two episodes in particular rank very highly in my 'best episodes' list.

Laura Thornley

Sadly, none of the TNG movies come close to the level of First Contact. This one often gets criticized for feeling like an extended TNG episode, but in retrospect, especially considering what we’ve got from the NuTrek era, that’s not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. Cassie, just a heads-up: if or when you get to the 2009 reboot movies with Chris Pine, Carly could absolutely join in on those if she’d like. She won't catch any of the nods to the older films, but these movies have been made to be perfectly enjoyable on their own. And I think it would be interesting to see the perspective of both a Trekkie and a newbie reacting to them.

Gábor Árki

It may be due to the lighting. A dark and shady set can add a lot of false detail, as well as making space battles look more impressive. Insurrection has the problem of being mostly done in bright outdoor sets or in a brightly coloured nebula - so all the limitations of 90's CGI are easier to notice.

Laura Thornley

Once again I strongly suggest watching TOS The Menagerie part one and two before watching the Star Trek reboots

Neill Shaughness

1. Yes, but not only 3. 2. You may jest, my friend. It would solve the problem of too much Trek on this channel.

Clarence Newman

Kelvin movies then a break

David Freese

I really don't think its fair to skip 30 odd seasons to just do Picard. I think to be fair to everyone we need to take a break after the Kelvin movies and see what we can watch after that break.

David Freese

👍🏼

Uncle Phoenix

I love that this is out but I have to go to work in 40 minutes! Everyone will get a head start on me on this one, I'll have to see it it in full tomorrow.

Mike LL

Yes

Clay F

Opinions vary, Phoenix, until you get to Nemesis where they don't seem to vary at all. For me, though, the first 3 were all very entertaining in their own way. If anyone disagrees, my fist is ever ready for a knockdown blooooow!

Clarence Newman

And I agree about the oversized episode feel: it's much better viewed that way.

Chris Clarke

For all the props they managed to make, they bought an off the shelf Thrustmaster or something lol.

Athan Immortal

I think she'd like the first two seasons of Picard just fine, purely because she loves the character so much. But not yet.

Clarence Newman

She has mentioned it a few times in previous reactions so I think she will.

Athan Immortal

You may not have recognised him, Cassie, since he's now a lot older, but Anthony Zerbe who plays the Starfleet admiral was Milton Crest in Licence to Kill, where he met a messy end in a pressurisation chamber!🙈

Chris Clarke

That's a good point, Jake. I think Cassie would love Stewart's version of A Christmas Carol, but there's no better year than this one to watch it.

Clarence Newman

Does Cassie plan on watching the reboot trilogy? I think she should.

Thats MR. Baldamort

I love star strek

Fourleaf Sober

No.

Mike Lemon

Man that joystick thing had me laughing in the cinema. Back in the days when ST movies were done on a budget and Paramount didnt realise what a cash cow they had.

rakesh

For the life of me I dont know how this film manages to look cheaper than the previous film considering it has almost double the budget. Still its not as bad as some people say.

Night King01

Who would have thought when this channel started that Cassie would turn out to be a Trekkie? I think you'd really love seeing Patrick Stewart in "A Christmas Carol" (1999), this would certainly be the best year to check it out after your journey though the Star Trek universe.

Jake McNulty

It’s only almost done if you want it to be. First two seasons of Picard are a bit rough, but the third and final season is a ton of fun. So much fan service.

Shad Kanyak

"An extended TNG episode" is exactly how I would describe it, as well as co-signing that that is in itself a good thing. I've always had fun with this one also so I'm just going to go dive right in.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

I wonder if the next gen movies follow the same pattern as the old ones. Meaning that the good movies skip.

Uncle Phoenix

The Chris Pine ST movies

Clay F

Ditto

Clay F

1. Let's keep up the drumbeat for Picard Season 3. 2. She should have a dedicated channel just for DS9 lol

Andrew Golledge

What’s the post TNG plan? Old shows? New movies? New Shows?

aarswft

One step closer to the Chris Pine franchise. That’s what I’m waiting for haha

Wes


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