Superman 2 Poll!!
Added 2024-11-11 01:39:04 +0000 UTCOur sequel poll was tied!! Was this a coordinated attack? Well it worked and I decided to do a whole SEQUELS WEEK!! Both Austin Powers 2 and Superman 2 tied for first place with 27% each. Once we downloaded the results and saw the actual numbers, it looks like Austin Powers won by only 5 VOTES! So fun! So I will be watching Austin Powers 2, Superman 2 and Grumpier Old Men! I am actually so excited!!
So now time to get down to business-guys I know this is a heated debate about which Superman 2 to watch and I am making the majority choose for me. The Richard Donner cut or the Theatrical Cut. Or should we just rock paper scissors it? jkjk Vote away
Ps-Some like it Hot will be up tonight!
Comments
This movie is soooo good. I have always loved it. And Marilyn was fantastic here. And I also loved "What's Up Doc?".Another great classic movie. Loved your reaction!
Phillip Bates
2024-11-24 15:08:53 +0000 UTCHis films were usually taken over by the studios and he lost director’s control. They would not be cut to his intended vision.
Marja
2024-11-15 15:29:15 +0000 UTC?
Richard Maurer
2024-11-15 13:42:08 +0000 UTCAs a self-proclaimed "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie" Superman fanboy, I don't think that Superman III was terrible. I know that the termination of Richard Donner by the producers was a sour note, but the film had some bright elements, which I think Cassie would enjoy - particularly Lana Lang. Superman IV - yes, it was terrible. Superman Returns was ok. Man of Steel was largely forgettable.
bgb1975
2024-11-14 16:09:09 +0000 UTCI don't hate RADIO FLYER, but it's a very problematic movie.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-13 04:18:33 +0000 UTCThat's be sad because part 3 was the best one
V M
2024-11-13 02:40:18 +0000 UTC@Stick - Radio Flyer was pretty good. It is not a good fit for theaters though.
Mike Lemon
2024-11-13 01:03:44 +0000 UTCI have a feeling that after AP2, part 3 is going to be a hard sell for Cassie.....we'll see.
JC762
2024-11-12 22:48:08 +0000 UTC@Gabor: Yeah, if it really had been 80% Donner in the theatrical cut, Lester could not have gotten the directorial screen credit per DGA rules.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-12 18:29:56 +0000 UTCDonner is a better director at certain kinds of movies. Lester is a better director at other kinds (Donner can't do comedy, for example). Both have made their share of great films (Donner did SUPERMAN, THE OMEN and the LETHAL WEAPON series, for example, while Lester did HARD DAY'S NIGHT, 3/4 MUSKETEERS and ROBIN AND MARION) as well as their share of clunkers (Donner did THE TOY, TIMELINE and RADIO FLYER, for example, while Lester did SUPERMAN 3 and RETURN OF THE MUSKETEERS).
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-12 18:27:52 +0000 UTCExcept for Orson Welles films!
Marja
2024-11-12 15:43:32 +0000 UTCAgree
Richard Maurer
2024-11-12 14:27:00 +0000 UTCIn all seriousness, Richard (very hard for me normally), as long as the original version is still out there for a quick flyby, I would be happy to watch any length of LoTR extended. Give me 10 hour installments, I'll watch it.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-12 13:11:31 +0000 UTC@ Clarence - I’ve heard that PJ has 2 hours of footage from the trilogy that he’s thinking about adding for the 25th anniversary (sorry, I don’t think Tom is in it). Personally I hope this happens, both because I want to see it and I want hear all the whining about how it’s “too long” and “ ruins the flow”.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-12 12:33:20 +0000 UTC@David, besides the obvious differences, Lester re-shot several scenes that have already been recorded by Donner, so that he can meet the requirements of getting the sole directorial credit for the movie.
Gábor Árki
2024-11-12 11:11:39 +0000 UTCRichard Donner is definitely the better director. I heard one person say that when Richard Lester worked by himself, he gave us Superman 3. That should say it all right there.
DAVID COSTELLO
2024-11-12 08:36:32 +0000 UTCLord of The Rings was too short. Jackson could have at least squeezed in an hour of Tom Bombadil.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-12 08:06:33 +0000 UTCOh, he's made several great films: A HARD DAYS NIGHT, THREE/FOUR MUSKETEERS, A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM, JUGGERNAUT and ROBIN & MARIAN.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-12 05:36:41 +0000 UTCFor the theatrical cut, Lester shot *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* the opening Paris segment, all the Niagara Falls stuff, all of the stuff with the three Kryptonians in the small town, all of the stuff with Lois and Superman in the Fortress of Solitude, parts of the climactic battle in Metropolis, the "Super amnesia kiss" scene, the finale with Superman at the White House and a few bits and pieces (some comic and some serious) sprinkled throughout... some scenes are actually a combination of footage shot by both directors. When you look at how much of Donner's work ended up in the Lester cut, it's not really that much (Donner himself even said it was probably only about 20%). For the Donner cut, they kept everything from the theatrical version that he shot (even extending some scenes that were cut short by Lester like all of the Lex Luthor bits), restored all the unused stuff, inserted a couple screen tests, filmed a few new shots and used a little bit of Lester's footage to fill in the gaps. In the end, both are patchwork quilts.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-12 05:11:46 +0000 UTCMmm noo its 80 percent Donner look at both versions. They have alot of the same footage and only Lester's stuff was taken out for the Donner cut cut. Only thing Lester did was in Paris, the fight scenes at the end and any comedy bits.
David Freese
2024-11-12 04:39:40 +0000 UTCIts was the beginning towards what killed the original movie franchise.
David Freese
2024-11-12 04:31:06 +0000 UTCyou have to pay for those
pat on
2024-11-12 03:12:46 +0000 UTCI can't be objective about the Donner cut. There were some things about Superman 2 that bugged me, and the Donner cut handled them better, and added one wonderful scene/idea that was way better than the choice from the theatrical version. That made me very happy when I saw the Donner cut, but as others have pointed out, there were probably continuity issues and other problems that I didn't notice because my brain filled in the gaps from having already seen the theatrical cut. I would warn Cassie about small spoilers in other posts, but I find it hard to believe she actually goes through and reads all of these messages. So I guess she'll be safe.
Analytical Guy
2024-11-12 01:55:22 +0000 UTCWe know Kubrick didn’t film the moon landing because he would have had to change the narrative to make it his own.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-12 01:00:53 +0000 UTCWell that’s a opinion. A opinion I completely disagree with, but still an opinion. RotK extended, like the other extended editions, is virtually flawless - one of the three greatest films ever made - imo, which is always the correct opinion….for me.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-12 00:55:50 +0000 UTCThe 1969 moon landing is my favorite Kubrick film
V M
2024-11-11 23:33:31 +0000 UTCReturn of the King theatrical is long enough as it is. All the crap with the mad steward is unwatchable, Jackson really screwed it up the way he handled that story thread - the last thing it needs is more extraneous sub plot
Witchfinder General
2024-11-11 22:38:49 +0000 UTCThat’s why they’re exceptions, not the rule :-) and you included Return of the King by mistake. I mean it must be a mistake, right? Because RotK is one the best extendeds ever.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 22:16:40 +0000 UTCHopefully Carly will watch grumpier old men with you she loved the first one.
Brian Cowgill
2024-11-11 22:07:17 +0000 UTC@Richard Considering by this point there are hundreds of directors cuts and extended cuts of films, the minority of of them that improve the theatrical do not disprove my argument. For every Fellowship of the Ring, or Blade Runner Final Cut, there's an inferior baggy, overly-long, extended cut of Lawnmower Man, Something About Mary, E.T, Apocalypse Now, Donnie Darko, Dumb and Dumber, Return of the King, Donnie Brasco, Natural Born Killers, Terminator 2, Mallrats, The Blues Brothers...
Witchfinder General
2024-11-11 22:04:27 +0000 UTCJaws 3 is worth watching, if only to satisfy the conspiracy theorists that the 1968 moon landing (15 years earlier) could not have been faked using CGI.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 21:45:27 +0000 UTCLester did make a great film, y'all. It's called A Hard Day's Night.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 20:34:32 +0000 UTCDecent films, guys, but where's the love for STIR CRAZY?
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 20:31:49 +0000 UTCAgreed
V M
2024-11-11 19:48:01 +0000 UTCI agree. Too bad we can't have a mega Donner/Lester cut with Marlon Brando in it, but the theatrical ending, less some of Lester's sillier sight gags.
Rick Moreno
2024-11-11 19:37:50 +0000 UTCThe reason Marlon Brando does not appear in the theatrical version is because he insisted to paid the same enormous fee he received for the first film (and a percentage of the profits!). Brando himself states this in his own autobiography but in understating it "They asked if they could use the footage of me in the sequel. I asked for my usual fee, they refused and so did I!"
JONATHAN REDFERN WILLIAMS
2024-11-11 19:01:20 +0000 UTCExcept for LotR, Kingdom of Heaven, Doctor Sleep,……
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 18:53:54 +0000 UTCNormally would do the same as I have no idea about the Donner cut, however a few people on here who’s opinion I respect seam to indicate it should be the Theatrical cut. So I’ve gone for that.
Mark White
2024-11-11 17:49:41 +0000 UTCMore often than not the theatrical is better than the extended cut
Witchfinder General
2024-11-11 17:49:24 +0000 UTCI may have mentioned this one or ten times before! But for me, Superman 3 is in the very ‘Bad 3 group’ with, Beverly Hills cop 3, Crocodile Dundee 3 and Jaws 3! In my humble opinion!
Mark White
2024-11-11 17:47:09 +0000 UTCi prefer the og cut myself
scott osborne
2024-11-11 17:37:01 +0000 UTCExcept there are exceptions to every rule - like this one
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 16:22:37 +0000 UTCId recommend the theatrical cut as its the one that 90 percent of viewers will have seen.
Sean
2024-11-11 16:21:23 +0000 UTCDamn you spell check! When I write Clouseau I mean Clouseau! (it tried to change it again).
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 16:18:54 +0000 UTCYeah, that's weird.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 16:00:05 +0000 UTCThe Donner cut changes the story. Honestly, I didn’t like it. The Theatrical cut in 1980 resulted in such a boost in popularity of the franchise that Christopher Reeve became the living image of what people wanted Superman to be. Some critics even said that the sequel was even more enjoyable than the original first film. The extended scenes in the TV release complimented the theatrical, and I recall seeing it run longer on cable TV in the early 80s.
Elias Shaikh
2024-11-11 15:59:41 +0000 UTCSpookily enough, guys, The Great Race is getting some good discussion time in the Some Like It Hot thread. Feel free to pile on.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 15:44:47 +0000 UTCAlways watch what the Director intended if possible
(Nolo)finwe
2024-11-11 15:37:11 +0000 UTCAlso the Donner Cut has the problem that it has Superman beating up a guy for something that guy never did in that version of reality
John Adams
2024-11-11 15:20:15 +0000 UTCWatch both! 😂 The Donner Cut is fun to see what was originally planned. The ending would have been different if Donner stayed on. I also feel like the theatrical version is more campy.
Josh Knight
2024-11-11 14:09:22 +0000 UTCHold on. I withdraw my Croc Dundee remark. Respect must be maintained.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 14:06:49 +0000 UTCAnd I would usually use your post to pop in a recommendation for Rebel Without a Cause. Unfortunately, I think it's a pretty so-so movie. Give me some Paul Newman or Steve McQueen instead!
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 14:03:36 +0000 UTCBalls to the in crowd.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 14:01:44 +0000 UTCYou're clearly thinking of Jacques Clouseau, the intrepid inventor of the aqua-lung. And Crocodile Dundee is God!
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 14:00:31 +0000 UTCThe biggest problem with the Donner Cut is that it doesn’t have a proper ending. Donner never got a chance to film it and the ending that is used for this alternate cut is NOT what would be there if he had actually finished the film. Yes, there’s a lot of interesting material in this version. But it doesn’t mean much if you haven’t already seen the theatrical cut. Without that point of reference, the Donner cut is a lot of continuity errors and the most disappointing ending ever. Theatrical Cut is the way to go.
Silver Machine
2024-11-11 13:55:47 +0000 UTCHey I heard there are some witches over on Disney+, shouldn’t you be finding them?
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:43:56 +0000 UTCInspector Cousteau would have been a good choice. CD 2, not so much.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:41:40 +0000 UTCThat’s not the case with Superman 2. The theatrical cut is easily available to stream on Max and Amazon Prime.
Silver Machine
2024-11-11 13:41:05 +0000 UTCReally? Several people here have said the opposite.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:38:33 +0000 UTCWell at this point I’m not sure it matters. I doubt if directors cut can make that big of a comeback. So do you want to be in with the in crowd or a rebel with a lost cause?
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:37:11 +0000 UTCGoldmember yes, Superman 3 no. It’s definitely in the unnecessary sequel category.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:30:03 +0000 UTCIf I didn’t know the scene you’re referring to I might think you all were really pissed at each other.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 13:24:05 +0000 UTCNever knew there WAS a Donner cut until this poll....and I agree with Adino1.
Don Dunco
2024-11-11 12:52:07 +0000 UTCI had to do some soul-searching on this one. I was canvassing for the Donner cut, but after some reflection, and reading some comments, I think it probably would be best for Cassie to see the theatrical version first. But there's one particular scene from the Donner cut which is just so good, and adds so much to the story. It drives me nuts that the theatrical version didn't include it. Almost as nuts as the fact that we can't discuss until and unless Cassie sees them both.
bgb1975
2024-11-11 12:42:41 +0000 UTCThe movie that was popular in the theatres was, of course, the theatrical cut. The movie the producers wanted shown was the theatrical cut. Donner was only the director. In the interests of full disclosure though, I must point out that I did not care for either version and will not be watching.
Ted Little
2024-11-11 12:12:38 +0000 UTCThat's my girl...Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon and another round with Mick (Burgess Meredith)...plus two of the most beautiful women to ever emerge from Hollywood - Sophia Loren and Ann-Margret. But I'd prefer a beer commercial to Austin Powers.
crazyivan
2024-11-11 11:36:32 +0000 UTCWho cares, Superman films are rubbish
Witchfinder General
2024-11-11 09:35:39 +0000 UTCThe way I see it the Lester version is an actual movie. Despite how great it is that we got to see it, the Donner cut isn't. It is just a taste, a bonus material of what it could have been.
Gábor Árki
2024-11-11 09:27:39 +0000 UTCYou say....WHAT??? Cassie, I understand you watching Austin Powers and Superman, but how did Grumpier Old Men make the cut with its paltry 13%? If I'm out shopping and I notice my phone is on 13% battery, I turn into Arnold Schwarzenegger: "GET TO THE CHARGEEEEEER!!" You Popcorn picked it, didn't you? You Popcorn picked two old codgers over Crocodile Dundee and Inspector Clouseau. How the very could you??!! Time out. Time out. I'm burnin'. My lungs are burnin'.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 08:43:15 +0000 UTCit's always harder to find the theatrical cut what are you people doing!
pat on
2024-11-11 08:30:24 +0000 UTCAlthough, due to my OCD in regard to such things, I need to see how the voting's going. In order to do that.....I need to vote.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 08:17:01 +0000 UTCAbsolutely agree on THE ODD COUPLE. That's essential Matthau- Lemmon viewing.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 08:16:39 +0000 UTCGee, that's funny. I've never seen garbage spout garbage before.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 08:15:28 +0000 UTCI will not be voting on this poll, on the grounds that I would have no idea what I was voting for. Or against.
Clarence Newman
2024-11-11 08:15:20 +0000 UTCYeah, I think Lester did as good a job as anyone could have done in that situation. Like you, there are things I like about the Donner cut (seeing Brando again) and things I like about the Lester cut (I actually prefer the way Lois learns Clark's identity in his version), but overall I think Lester's is the better movie.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 08:14:07 +0000 UTCI actually think the Lester cut is the better movie overall, but the Donner cut at least provides a glimpse (through as glass darkly) into what *could* have been had he been allowed to finish it properly back in 1979.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 08:10:03 +0000 UTCAbsolutely. Lester was put in an impossible spot as well, taking over a film that was already 70-80% shot by someone else, with one lead actor refusing to continue and another who he has to remove to avoid further financial obligations. This inevitably led to a patchwork feel in places. For example, once you notice how the Luthor scenes are pieced together, it’s hard not to see. But at least he had the time and money to somehow work around these issues. But the Donner cut was an even bigger impossible challenge, as a significant portion of the movie simply hadn’t been filmed. No matter what you do, you simply can't finish it properly decades later. And I'm saying that as someone who does prefer multiple things in the Donner cut. The less cartoonist tone, the way Lois discovers it not by accident but by outsmarting, etc.
Gábor Árki
2024-11-11 07:52:47 +0000 UTCAnother factor is the theatrical version is streaming in multiple sites, unless you own the Donner cut one would have to buy or rent it to watch along.
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 07:50:07 +0000 UTCShe sort of promised Grumpier earlier in the year if I recall correctly. My guess is she thought this would be a good way to squeeze it in. Again, pure speculation on my part.
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 07:46:01 +0000 UTCI think the other version needs to make them, four eyes.
Philip Alan
2024-11-11 07:45:36 +0000 UTCHer "tonight's" usually means 5am or so
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 07:41:37 +0000 UTCPerfect answer
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 07:38:57 +0000 UTCI remember Cassie chuckling during the young Clark running vs the train in the first movie, I feared some scenes in the Donner cut would get the same response because it's unfinished and spoty. Particularly the Lois and Clark scene at the Daily Planet toward the first part of the movie.
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 07:36:06 +0000 UTCthis is the correct answer
Ulf Jerlström
2024-11-11 07:23:11 +0000 UTCI've heard it said that the theatrical version is 80% Lester and 20% Donner while the Richard Donner cut is the opposite (80% Donner and 20% Lester), so neither film is really the complete vision of either director, both are patchwork quilts and once you know where to look, the seams are obvious.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 07:15:20 +0000 UTCHere’s the thing… the Donner Cut is a better movie, but it’s an incomplete movie. It is something you can only truly appreciate after you’ve seen the theatrical cut and know the production backstory. My heart is with the Donner Cut but my brain knows it HAS to be the theatrical cut.
Cliff Stephenson
2024-11-11 07:15:15 +0000 UTCBoth. But really, for a first viewing it HAS to be the Theatrical Cut.
Adino1
2024-11-11 07:07:28 +0000 UTCWell, the Donner cut is certainly closer to what he would have wanted, but it's still incomplete. At best, it's a glimpse into what could have been, a worthwhile experiment that I'm glad exists but certainly does not replace the official film. I would recommend it for comparison to anyone who has seen Lester's theatrical cut first.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 06:59:52 +0000 UTCI enjoy both of them, and the Donner Cut is what Donner wanted, but it is admittedly really short, and has a couple of things missing. Watch the theatrical for the channel, you can go back and watch the Donner Cut sometime for a fun comparison.
Rick Moreno
2024-11-11 06:48:19 +0000 UTCYeah, she had her problems
V M
2024-11-11 06:46:56 +0000 UTCI've watched both I really enjoyed the Donner cut but the theatrical movie was the one I watched and re watched as a kid so it's got to be that.
rakesh
2024-11-11 06:11:57 +0000 UTCAnd it even uses some scenes from rehearsal takes to fill in the gaps, because some important ones haven't been recorded yet. He was able to shoot ~70-80% of the material he wanted. And by far the biggest problem is that when Donner was fired, not just they didn't shot an ending yet but it hasn't even been written, due to the originally planned having been pulled forward into the 1st movie. The RDC is great in giving a taste of what could have been, but given it is not a properly finished movie it only works after having seen the theatrical version first.
Gábor Árki
2024-11-11 06:06:13 +0000 UTCAgree with Matt
JC762
2024-11-11 05:37:44 +0000 UTCThat's going to be a great week! I love it! I haven't seen the Donner cut, so I'm "Super" curious, but from what I've read, the original is the one to see if you only watch one. All of these movies are so good, I can't wait! Thanks Cassie, wishing many "Tender November" blessings on you and yours. P.S. No need to watch Superman 3 or 4 imo.
clutchkman
2024-11-11 05:31:27 +0000 UTCI voted for "Blue Velvet."
Carol_White
2024-11-11 05:09:03 +0000 UTCBoth versions are pretty awesome.....one difference between them that's impossible to miss is how Margot Kidder aged like 20 years between the first filmed and subsequent scenes....that's drugs/alcohol damage for you.....
Shane Drum
2024-11-11 04:36:51 +0000 UTCMan, just the trailer made me cry.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 04:34:32 +0000 UTCThe Donner cut didn't come out until 2006, 26 years after the theatrical release. Donner was still alive, but Marlon Brando and Christopher Reeve had passed away by that point.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 04:33:32 +0000 UTCToo soon to tell on either.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 04:31:59 +0000 UTCThe Donner Cut came out soon after the theatrical? Or after he died?
Chris Thom
2024-11-11 04:26:15 +0000 UTCIf Cassie is going to watch Superman 3, please please please watch Goldmember too.
V M
2024-11-11 04:24:57 +0000 UTCHi Cassie. I really hope you and Carley do a reaction for, An Officer and a Gentleman
Vlad D
2024-11-11 04:12:59 +0000 UTCI've heard that that documentary is wonderful.
Matt Rose
2024-11-11 04:09:40 +0000 UTCTheatrical. The Theatrical cut is a complete film, even if it isn't completely Donner's vision. The Donner cut uses the cut scenes that Donner originally filmed BUT also uses elements...avoiding spoilers here...from the first film in order to try and complete the film as it was originally conceived. The Donner cut is a great theoretical 'what if' curiosity but it's an incomplete film. Watch it AFTER watching the Theatrical cut.
Matt Rose
2024-11-11 04:08:41 +0000 UTCI liked both those movies
V M
2024-11-11 04:05:47 +0000 UTCRobert da Spruce's avatar is still mesmerizing
V M
2024-11-11 04:01:48 +0000 UTCI would also strongly suggest a quick reaction to the trailer for Super/Man: The Christopher Reeve story maybe after the reaction to Supes II.
Jay
2024-11-11 04:01:38 +0000 UTCI voted for the theatrical release
V M
2024-11-11 03:58:40 +0000 UTCThe Superman Theme is so iconic. I am currently watching a new documentary on John Williams. I knew he did the theme for this, Star Wars and almost every Spielberg movie. There is so much more I didn't know.
Stephen Last
2024-11-11 03:56:01 +0000 UTCYou are so generous to us! Thank you for watching 3 sequels to make a vast majority of the voters happy!
greggreggreg2000
2024-11-11 03:32:55 +0000 UTCThe Great Race is a fantastic movie, Dave, and I was thinking Cassie should follow Grumpier Old Men with The Odd Couple (1968).
Mike LL
2024-11-11 03:20:16 +0000 UTCYeah well where I'm at it's no longer tonight, it's turning into Monday so just curious
Ryan Towell
2024-11-11 03:20:12 +0000 UTCMaybe someday. I love THE GREAT RACE, but it's often like pulling teeth trying o get a classic movie reacted to on this channel.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 03:11:45 +0000 UTCMaybe the other version would like to step outside.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 03:11:01 +0000 UTCSame.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 03:10:13 +0000 UTC🪨 📃 ✂️
Vlad D
2024-11-11 03:10:03 +0000 UTCHey guys iv never seen any version . So my vote is for sell to the highest bidder 😉
Philip G.
2024-11-11 03:08:10 +0000 UTCThe Donner Cut is best viewed as an historical curiosity and I wouldn't recommend as the first version to watch.
Patrick Flanagan
2024-11-11 03:07:01 +0000 UTCToo late now, but I would have liked for Cassie to follow Some Like it Hot with Curtis and Lemmon in "The Great Race"
Dave
2024-11-11 03:05:38 +0000 UTCThe Richard Donner cut means well, but for your first time watching it, the theatrical is better. One scene in particular shows how incredible of an actor Christopher Reeve was in the Donner cut. But it would be best to watch the theatrical version, then go back and check out that scene in the Donner cut.
Jack Urmson
2024-11-11 03:01:08 +0000 UTCI’m voting for the theatrical version mainly because it is a finished film however I would strongly recommend you watch the Donner cut at some point. It’s very different from the theatrical version. In fact half the movie is brand new. It has all the Marlon Brando footage that they ended up cutting from the theatrical version. It’s a real shame that Donner was never able to finish the movie as he intended. Overall I probably prefer the Donner cut despite some of its flaws however if the movie had been finished the way dinner wanted I’ve no doubt it would easily be the better of the two versions.
Cody Nelson
2024-11-11 02:59:29 +0000 UTCKneel before Theatrical Cut!
Ricardo Rodriguez
2024-11-11 02:57:18 +0000 UTCIt is a great one, no doubt about that.
David Ulrich
2024-11-11 02:55:23 +0000 UTCRead her words
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 02:53:39 +0000 UTCTheatrical is a much tighter edited movie
Scott Macaulay
2024-11-11 02:47:45 +0000 UTCAs a fan of The Fly, I am not amused.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 02:47:31 +0000 UTCI literally just watched that again the other day for the first time in a long time. It still holds up.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:46:27 +0000 UTCDAYS OF WINE AND ROSES has imo the best performance ever given by an actor in a movie.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:46:02 +0000 UTCAustin Powers 2 is gonna be a very fun watch can’t wait
Joe Rambo
2024-11-11 02:43:18 +0000 UTCI just read Grumpier Old Men is in the mix too! Cassie is giving Jack Lemmon some love. His best performance, to me anyways, is Days of Wine and Roses. So memorable. Hopefully one day though. Excited for next week for sure!
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 02:40:46 +0000 UTCI would love for her to watch the China Syndrome as well. She should do a Jack Lemmon poll.
Julie
2024-11-11 02:40:10 +0000 UTCCorrect.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:37:15 +0000 UTCSeriously. I have little doubt The version that Donner would have made would have been the best of all, but of the versions that actually exist, Lester's is superior.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:37:04 +0000 UTCThe more great films a person watches, the more of Jack Lemmon they're going to see.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:36:27 +0000 UTCI don't get it either.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:35:16 +0000 UTCTheater cut of course.. But where is Some like it Hot been waiting all week and now the week is over still hasn't posted.. :(
Ryan Towell
2024-11-11 02:34:24 +0000 UTCCassie will also be doubling her exposure to Jack Lemmon. She's seen him in two movies (The Apartment, Grumpy Old Men), soon it will be four!
Mike LL
2024-11-11 02:32:12 +0000 UTCDonner is one of my favorite directors, but I'm going with the theatrical version.
Shawn Kildal
2024-11-11 02:31:52 +0000 UTCSure, but don’t bet your life savings on it.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 02:29:34 +0000 UTCReally guy?! Why can’t you just keep comments like this to yourself?
Dan M
2024-11-11 02:29:18 +0000 UTCI can’t imagine why anyone would want Cassie to watch an incomplete version of a movie before watching what everyone else saw in the theaters. What frame of reference would she have in watching a different version of the original before watching the original? I don’t get it.
Dan M
2024-11-11 02:25:30 +0000 UTCThe Donner Cut is an interesting experiment but it's not really a movie. I wish Donner could have finished it for real.
_tragicmike
2024-11-11 02:24:29 +0000 UTCSome people have to argue with everything
Kevin Charley
2024-11-11 02:23:39 +0000 UTCAbsolutely.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:23:20 +0000 UTCTheatrical. The Donner Cut is interesting but feels unfinished, so it's better to look at it through the lens of already being familiar with the original version (which is fantastic by itself)
DSM The Editor
2024-11-11 02:22:39 +0000 UTCI wouldn't say it's "more" comical. I would just say it's comical in different ways. Donner's cut also has a lot of goofy humor in it.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:22:26 +0000 UTCI love Richard Donner and think he is an amazing director. That said, I would go with the theatrical cut. I saw the Donner cut and remember liking the theatrical better. You could always go back and watch the Donner cut later if you wanted. Superman I & II are awesome. The rest of the series kind of fell apart. Terence Stamp crushed it as Zod.
Lucien
2024-11-11 02:21:05 +0000 UTC100% agree with the suggestion for Road to Perdition.
Dan M
2024-11-11 02:18:56 +0000 UTCYeah, it brings me no pleasure to say it, but Lester actually handles the relationship stuff better than Donner does.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:18:25 +0000 UTCNo way she should watch the theatrical.
Kevin Charley
2024-11-11 02:17:25 +0000 UTCOkay, this is weird. I said the exact same thing about playing a lottery game, before I read any of these comments. So it’s gotta be karma, right?
Dan M
2024-11-11 02:16:51 +0000 UTCAlso, SILVER STREAK.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:16:50 +0000 UTCThat would be the theatrical I believe.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:16:11 +0000 UTCYou feel lucky, my vote finished 3rd and it’s still being watched😂
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 02:15:21 +0000 UTCThis is definitely a first for me. The top two movies that I was going back and forth with as to which one I would vote for are tied at the top! So tomorrow, I will be going to play some kind of lottery game. I’ve gotta ride this sudden surge of luck I’m experiencing.
Dan M
2024-11-11 02:14:41 +0000 UTCI remember Cassie complaining about the lack of romance in the first one. I feel Lester's movie is better (than RD) in that respect. Also, she watched the first one (you can not be more Donner than that) and that did not trigger for her the need to watch the second one.
René Ferland
2024-11-11 02:13:07 +0000 UTCI own both but I think the one that is most easily streamable by the greatest number of people should be chosen.
Brian's Dog
2024-11-11 02:12:23 +0000 UTCSee No Evil, Hear No Evil is hilarious!
Scott
2024-11-11 02:11:56 +0000 UTCHaving seen both versions I have to go with theatrical.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 02:10:46 +0000 UTCROAD TO PERDITION is a great movie.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:07:46 +0000 UTCMy intro to Daniel Craig
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 02:07:02 +0000 UTCThe scenes with Annette O'Toole's Lana Lang are also good.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:06:38 +0000 UTC@Cole: True... Can you imagine if this poll were to tie?
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:05:42 +0000 UTCI love a theme week, and these three will make for some great reaction content. As for the "Cut Poll", my vote goes to the theatrical cut.
Dave
2024-11-11 02:04:36 +0000 UTCI still prefer the first one, but Letser's movie is still damn good.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:03:41 +0000 UTCPretty much.
Mike Lemon
2024-11-11 02:03:38 +0000 UTCI’ll admit- the scene in which Superman fights Clark Kent was pretty well done but other than that it had zero merit
Ross Cicero
2024-11-11 02:02:22 +0000 UTCSo it’s the end of the world, huh?
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 02:01:03 +0000 UTCDefinitely not inarguably. Many of us, including me, think the theatrical cut is the better movie.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 02:00:41 +0000 UTCI have the unfinished version. Which is hard to watch. Is there a finished RD version?
Philip Alan
2024-11-11 02:00:13 +0000 UTCWell don’t let that stop you, it certainly doesn’t stop most people here.
Richard Maurer
2024-11-11 01:59:26 +0000 UTCI really dislike Austin Powers, but I do enjoy Dr Evil, so there ya go. The Donner cut of Superman II is better, but I agree you have to know the movie to really appreciate the differences. The theatrical has some good stuff and some of the worst stuff to ever be a part of a comic book adaptation. Reeves is still solid though.
Walter
2024-11-11 01:58:35 +0000 UTCI've always felt that Lester was unfairly maligned for "adding to much humor" into the sequel. If the Donner cut reveals anything, it's that there was already plenty of goofy humor in the movie already (I mean, Lester was not the one who gave us *SPOILER* a flashing toilet in the Fortress of Solitude). Also, and it brings me no pleasure to say this, Lester handles the emotional/relationship stuff better than Donner does.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:57:28 +0000 UTCStill a long ways to go for that Stick, but it’s a start
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 01:55:43 +0000 UTCSiskel and Ebert were the go to movie critics back in the 70’s and 80’s. They suggested that Superman 2 was the movie they should have made first. They said, in order to have a great hero, you need an evil villain. The more despicable the villain, the greater the triumph in the end.
Starpartyguy
2024-11-11 01:55:31 +0000 UTC"So I will be watching ... Grumpier Old Men!" What? Is that a typo? You're planning on watching a movie I voted for. I think the last time that happened was The Natural. Time for me to buy that lottery ticket.
Mike Lemon
2024-11-11 01:54:46 +0000 UTCI thought we were going to have to go another year without Grumpier Old Men, so happy she turned it into a theme week!
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 01:54:44 +0000 UTCHaving seen both, do the theatrical. It will make more sense and is a proper film. Donner’s would have been good if it was completed. With all that said, you need to watch Road to Perdition with Tom Hanks. His finest film.
Jay
2024-11-11 01:54:28 +0000 UTCThe theatrical cut is the one streaming on Max and Amazon Prime (and the version on the copy I own).
D. T. Nelson
2024-11-11 01:54:06 +0000 UTCThen it will be Rock Scissor PAPER. Maybe Ro sham bo. Some will get that.
Brian McGovern
2024-11-11 01:53:23 +0000 UTCFuck mel gibson.
Diiirk706
2024-11-11 01:53:13 +0000 UTCIt's restoring my faith in humanity.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:52:57 +0000 UTCI think we need Superman 3 eventually. 4 can be skipped. We need some Richard Pryor so we can watch Brewster’s Millions and See no Evil, Hear no Evil.
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 01:52:11 +0000 UTC^This.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:51:58 +0000 UTCI guess wannabe film critics/nostalgia/you-must-do-like-we-do win again. Unless you wanna rock paper scissors it.
YodatheHobbit
2024-11-11 01:51:43 +0000 UTCYup.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:51:23 +0000 UTCI am fine with either, but do not delve any deeper. I thought 3 was okay when I was younger, but I didn't know any better. 4 was bad even then. It is a shame. Christopher got shafted on that because of the studio cut the budget in half.
Brian McGovern
2024-11-11 01:51:21 +0000 UTCThat's a great lineup for this week,appreciate your watching them all. :)
Celeste McAllister
2024-11-11 01:51:17 +0000 UTCThe RD cut is inarguably better. The Reeves/Brando dialogue alone proves this.
Michael Tuffin
2024-11-11 01:50:58 +0000 UTCI’m sure it’s bad but I’ve never seen it so it didn’t sit well with me to comment on it
Ross Cicero
2024-11-11 01:50:11 +0000 UTCI misread it and thought it was a "superman" poll....I was looking for the Henry Cavill one
Zeroarmor7
2024-11-11 01:49:36 +0000 UTCIf it wasn’t for Superman 3, would we have Office Space?😂
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 01:49:13 +0000 UTC3 is a few good scenes, characters and ideas in search of a movie. It's not really good, but it has its moments. The fourth one is crap.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:48:32 +0000 UTCThe theatrical, if they hadn't intended to add a little humor to it, they wouldn't have went and got Richard Lester to direct it, he was known for always trying to have sight gags and humor in his movies a lot of the time.
John
2024-11-11 01:48:15 +0000 UTCAnd #4....don't forget about that one
Zeroarmor7
2024-11-11 01:48:10 +0000 UTCAn introduction to Sophia Loren. Sweet! Perhaps we can work backwards from this point with Sophia Loren and Ann Margret. Back to the 60s and 50s. I’m fine with some younger Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau too, I guess. To each their own ;-)
Larry Darrell
2024-11-11 01:48:00 +0000 UTCwhatever you do skip Superman 3 and 4
Jackie McDonalds
2024-11-11 01:47:16 +0000 UTCI think watching the theatrical cut is essential to understanding what changes were made in Richard Donner's cut.
Michael Enos
2024-11-11 01:47:05 +0000 UTCThis is super fun Cassie, and appreciate this poll. I can't wait for this weekend
Chris Retzlaff
2024-11-11 01:46:51 +0000 UTCRichard Lester made a great film, I think Cassie will like it! I always liked the second one, the Lester one, better than the first movie.
Mike LL
2024-11-11 01:45:59 +0000 UTCGoing to sit this poll out. I grew up with the theatrical and watched the Donner cut when I was a student—I enjoyed that cut, but don’t remember enough to make an informed decision here.
Alex Villarreal
2024-11-11 01:45:42 +0000 UTCYeah but the theater version was not what was originally intended. Too much comedy but ill will have fun no matter which one gets picked.
David Freese
2024-11-11 01:45:41 +0000 UTCone million percent you have to watch the theatrical cut. the donner cut is not a complete movie. it doesn't even have an ending. you can watch the donner cut later on if you want, but your first viewing has to be the theatrical cut or the experience will be ruined
diego kontarovsky
2024-11-11 01:45:40 +0000 UTCI can't believe anyone voted for the Theatrical release of Superman 2 much less that it would currently be winning the poll. This is making lose hope I. humanity 🤣🤣
Joel Cagle
2024-11-11 01:45:26 +0000 UTCAgreed.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:45:05 +0000 UTCHide the cannoli
Chris Retzlaff
2024-11-11 01:45:01 +0000 UTChmmm perhaps
Cassie
2024-11-11 01:44:59 +0000 UTCPlease, God, let the theatrical cut win. It's easily the better version. It is an actual movie whereas the Richard Donner cut (as shamefully as Donner was treated by the producers and as glad as I am that he got to do it) is really just an extended special feature. If you're only going to watch one, definitely the theatrical. TRDC is only interesting in comparison to the theatrical.
Stick Figure Studios
2024-11-11 01:44:45 +0000 UTCHonestly can’t remember if I’ve ever seen the director’s cut. But I guess I’ll vote for it just so I can see it for sure 😊
Robert da Spruce
2024-11-11 01:44:18 +0000 UTCoooohhh ill check it out!
Cassie
2024-11-11 01:44:10 +0000 UTCHaving never seen the Richard Donner cut and the theatrical cut being an important part of my childhood I had to opt for the latter (incidentally please skip 3. It’s garbage)
Ross Cicero
2024-11-11 01:44:06 +0000 UTCStick with the theatrical cut. It’s more readily available and it’s the version we first watched all those years ago.
Luke Godfrey
2024-11-11 01:43:27 +0000 UTCNew movie with Mel Gibson called "Monster Summer" on Amazon is pretty fun 😀
Johnny Salinas
2024-11-11 01:43:04 +0000 UTCIn this case and for a first time watch, definitely theatrical for me. The RDC is interesting but, IMHO, only in retrospect after having seen the theatrical versions of S1 and S2 which were originally intended to b a single movie.
Ron
2024-11-11 01:43:02 +0000 UTCI voted theatrical cut. Loking forward to Superman 2. Austin Powers 2 can be funny at times. Can't wait for the f*** jokes in Grumpier Old Men.
Clay F
2024-11-11 01:42:43 +0000 UTCThe Snyder cut of the Donner cut 😆 (No, it's not a thing, I just wanna see how mad people get)
Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
2024-11-11 01:42:32 +0000 UTCWhat happens if this poll ends in a tie?? I know! “ The Searchers “!
Bill Maurer
2024-11-11 01:41:38 +0000 UTCThis will be a fun week!
Cole Jennett
2024-11-11 01:41:19 +0000 UTCAs with the majority of patrons, I vote for the theatrical cut. I have a gut feeling that this is the version that Addie Counts plans on watching.
Alex Tan
2024-11-11 01:41:17 +0000 UTCGrumpier Old Men is a hoot and a half. Can’t wait!
T.J. Gengler
2024-11-11 01:41:14 +0000 UTCTheatrical is the better version imo
Wes
2024-11-11 01:41:13 +0000 UTCThe theatrical cut is more "comical". Which I think works better for Cassie. It's also how we all saw it originally.
Todzilla
2024-11-11 01:41:10 +0000 UTCDonner
Neil Varma
2024-11-11 01:41:06 +0000 UTCGreat week of movies
Gray
2024-11-11 01:41:03 +0000 UTCBoth. But first theatrical.
Lance Li
2024-11-11 01:40:24 +0000 UTC
