Cassie Tremblay : Remembrance Day/Veteran's Day Poll

It’s on amazon prime

Audrey

2023-11-07 19:56:20 +0000 UTC

I'd like to have a Debra Winger week. This movie, Urban Cowboy and Terms of Endearment. Possibly would be one of Cassie's favorite movie weeks since she's started her channel.

Shawn Kildal

2023-11-07 06:25:46 +0000 UTC

Can we talk about the real tragic inaccuracy; the real Megan Leavy was a brunette, not a redhead. Ruined the whole movie for me.

Javier Hernandez

2023-11-06 19:57:22 +0000 UTC

I know another coming-of-age story 🥰

Björn Karlsson

2023-11-05 16:01:53 +0000 UTC

John, "13 Hours" is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given.

Clay F

2023-11-05 12:51:36 +0000 UTC

Dave, I never disparaged the heroes on the ground, but merely state fact that no stand-down order was given. The report by the House Intelligence Committee (led by Chairman Mike Rogers) said there was no stand-down order given. Mike Rogers (a soldier 1985-89) -- from east Alabama -- a conservative and a Christian, father of three, and married to his wife (Beth) for over 35 years. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq, stated: “Committee, after committee, after committee has found that there was no stand-down order,” noting that Gen. Petraeus testified the same. "[T]hree different committees have looked at this and have never found any evidence of any type of a stand-down order — period. There just wasn’t one.”

Clay F

2023-11-05 12:38:30 +0000 UTC

John P, whatever the heroes on the ground thought, no stand down order was given. The report by the House Intelligence Committee (led by Chairman Mike Rogers) said there was no stand-down order given. Mike Rogers (a soldier 1985-89) -- from east Alabama -- a conservative and a Christian, father of three, and married to his wife (Beth) for over 35 years. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq, stated: “Committee, after committee, after committee has found that there was no stand-down order,” noting that Gen. Petraeus testified the same. "[T]hree different committees have looked at this and have never found any evidence of any type of a stand-down order — period. There just wasn’t one.”

Clay F

2023-11-05 12:34:17 +0000 UTC

Mike, there are many who care.

Clay F

2023-11-05 12:29:49 +0000 UTC

Your quote started "Soldiers are brought up to tell the truth ..." I merely noted that Gen. Patraeus, Tammy Duckworth, and Chairman Mike Rogers who said there was no stand-down order were soldiers.

Clay F

2023-11-05 12:20:45 +0000 UTC

Boy, some of you really know how to suck the fun out of stuff

Chris

2023-11-05 07:12:03 +0000 UTC

MAGA propaganda? This story took place in 2012. The politics of this incident occurred well before Donald Trump. You guys probably have not even seen this movie and yet you call it propaganda. The story is about the soldiers on the ground and not about the politics in Washington. The movie highlights the bravery of prior service members and contractors. Also, the movie is based off first hand accounts from people on the ground. I trust them much more than the media or politicians.

Jeramie Schmatjen

2023-11-04 03:48:23 +0000 UTC

When it comes to poll candidate selection, more is not necessarily better. BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY or ALL QUIET are great films and my personal choices.

SeanATX

2023-11-04 02:22:43 +0000 UTC

Clay F...Its Me Dave is 100 percent correct. This is not the place for interjecting personal political bias. This is an uplifting place enjoying Cassie's and Carly's reaction. We all know An Officer and a Gentleman is the type of film Cassie and Carly would enjoy the most, but that is not the point of the poll. I hope you finally get it; and understand why we are all here.

John Liebling

2023-11-04 01:23:23 +0000 UTC

I'd love to see you do An Officer and a Gentleman sometime. It's a great coming-of-age story and a romance all wrapped up in one. You'd like it. 🙂

Arki Kali

2023-11-03 23:11:48 +0000 UTC

There may not have been a stand down order from Washington but there was from the CIA chief that was on the ground. The movie never claims that a stand down order was given beyond that. Have you seen the movie? The big issue with Benghazi, regardless of what the government says, is that they did not send any support to help our own people. I am saying this as a veteran and someone who works in the weapon system testing community. Our military had plenty of assets available but chose to not send them for whatever reasons they claim. The bottom line is that the government screwed up and didn't want to admit it because it was an election year. If your only issue is the stand down order, then I think you can safely watch the movie and enjoy it.

Jeramie Schmatjen

2023-11-03 23:03:44 +0000 UTC

Then you haven't watch 13 Hours.

Jacob Antony

2023-11-03 22:58:19 +0000 UTC

82% audience approval in Rotten Tomatoes for 13 hrs. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/13_hours_the_secret_soldiers_of_benghazi

Bill Maurer

2023-11-03 18:55:57 +0000 UTC

Great movie !!! George C Scott was phenomenal as Patton.

Bill Maurer

2023-11-03 18:54:34 +0000 UTC

Really looking forward to 13 Hours. A Must See Film, for Veteran’s Day. This is not your normal Michael Bay film.

Larry Darrell

2023-11-03 17:11:57 +0000 UTC

Thanks, Blaze. What's more, despite the protests of someone who hasn't seen the movie, this is not a 2-hour movie about an argument between the CIA station chief and the security team. They said they were told to stand-down and not cross town to help the ambassador, he said he only told them to wait while he arranged for additional local militia support for when they got there. Parse that however you like. They eventually went. Benghazi is the story of three great failures — the failure to either fortify or evacuate Benghazi when threats increased, the failure to adequately protect and support American personnel during the attack itself, and the failure to tell the American public after the attack of either the extent of the threat faced that day or why there was such a delay to provide support in a volatile part of the world. This film spends zero time on the last failure - that is the playground for politics. This film does show the consequences of first two failures. The security team fought like lions against overwhelming odds. Their valor was awe-inspiring, and this is that story. Dismissing this film as factually inaccurate is to smear them.

2-Can

2023-11-03 14:03:50 +0000 UTC

Also, Clay, you're repeated the same point several times. We get it. If you have more to add that's constructive, please do. But simply regurgitating the same point endlessly is the best way to put people off.

Above Average Dave

2023-11-03 13:58:03 +0000 UTC

All of those men served - and it's apparent you have not. They went back to civilian life and either couldn't adjust or couldn't make ends meet. Federal contracting is lucrative compared to other jobs these men could get and a common practice because the U.S. maintains a scaled down standing military force. Also,note the word "Federal" - these men were contracted to protect U.S. CIA and State Department Personnel. That is VERY different from mercenaries who will go fight anyone, anywhere for money. That was not these men - and I strongly doubt any of them would do that (if that was their nature, they could've easily turned to the Libyan forces and asked for more cash to join their side). Please educate yourself regarding the identity of these men and stop brandishing the military background of politicians like they're your own.

Above Average Dave

2023-11-03 13:56:16 +0000 UTC

This is about the movie, and I still don't think it's appropriate for Veterans Day.

Richard Maurer

2023-11-03 13:50:53 +0000 UTC

So, if they're heroes - and all were U.S. Veterans hired to protect U.S. CIA and State Department personnel - why disparage them so roundly in your comments? I really don't understand that component of your comments.

Above Average Dave

2023-11-03 13:50:50 +0000 UTC

I think that guy is stuck in a loop. A very sad and angry loop.

JimJames

2023-11-03 13:50:28 +0000 UTC

Yep let’s believe the chief of station who has ever reason to lie to save face after a U.S. Ambassador died. Let’s believe the politicians both republican and democrat who lie ALL THE TIME. Sorry I believe the guys on the ground who I have talked to in person. I’ve spent my whole adult life around guys like them. They would not have held up to respond to the embassy unless they were ordered to. It is also undisputed fact that not U.S. assets were sent to support them during the 13 hour siege. It’s even documented that Obama flew to Las Vegas with is wife during the attack to meet with Beyoncé and Jay-z.

John P Tucker

2023-11-03 10:54:00 +0000 UTC

We got it the billion other times you have commented the same thing. NOBODY CARES. It's a freaking movie. Enough already.

Mike Lemon

2023-11-03 09:55:45 +0000 UTC

Jeramie, the film is inaccurate for at least the reason in real life there was no stand down order given. Whatever those heroes on the ground thought, no stand-down order was given.

Clay F

2023-11-03 08:57:03 +0000 UTC

Blaze, thanks for the reply. Those 4 Americans were heroes. The film is inaccurate for at least the reason in real life there was no stand down order given.

Clay F

2023-11-03 08:54:37 +0000 UTC

Fletcher, thank you for the reply. Whatever the heroes on the ground thought (I never said they lied), no stand down order was given. The report by the House Intelligence Committee (led by Chairman Mike Rogers) said there was no stand-down order given. Mike Rogers (a soldier 1985-89) -- from east Alabama -- a conservative and a Christian, father of three, and married to his wife (Beth) for over 35 years. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq, stated: “Committee, after committee, after committee has found that there was no stand-down order,” noting that Gen. Petraeus testified the same. "[T]hree different committees have looked at this and have never found any evidence of any type of a stand-down order — period. There just wasn’t one.”

Clay F

2023-11-03 08:45:07 +0000 UTC

Have you even seen the movie? The guys are real, the guys are named, they told their stories, and that's what it is. You keep harping on it like it's such an impossibility that, even if no one else in the government hesitated, that someone responsible for a CIA outpost filled with people and stocked to the brim with priceless intel would waffle at sending away all of the security there to protect him/them/it, at a volatile time that's already turned violent, when they need security more than ever, sending all the security off to possibly never return, that the only possible explanation is that the people who were boots-on-the-ground are just a conspiracy of boldfaced liars. This isn't China. Not every movie and memoir has to always and exclusively portray every government official to be perfectly self-sacrificing and infallible.

Fletcher M

2023-11-03 08:33:59 +0000 UTC

You can tell who the lefties are in these comments. If you don't like the movie, don't watch the reaction. There are plenty of other options. Anyway, I am glad 13 Hours won. I was not expecting that. Michael Bay did a great job telling the story based on the people who were actually there.

Jeramie Schmatjen

2023-11-03 05:47:32 +0000 UTC

No sweat Dave,I've said all I care to say :)

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 01:55:46 +0000 UTC

@David,What a wonderful idea. :)

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 01:48:16 +0000 UTC

you have a problem with MAGA?

zynjams

2023-11-03 01:45:10 +0000 UTC

'Tora Tora Tora' 1970 for Pearl Harbor day DECEMBER 7TH 1941,"A date that will live in Infamy",Highly recommended for its historical accuracy and authenticity.

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 01:42:02 +0000 UTC

Last request for you and Clay to stop, Celeste. My reasons have already been explained. Stop.

Dave

2023-11-03 01:37:58 +0000 UTC

My father is Army 25yr G8 veteran you can discuss this subject with him if you like,I was raised on Army bases,I'm married to a Marine G6 veteran,he served in Iraq and Afghanistan,I know these people they deserve far more respect than any 'professional politician'..especially Hillary..

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 01:33:16 +0000 UTC

Celeste and Clay- this discussion is over. Please do not reply anymore to my comment. If you wish to discuss the merits of your facts and arguments, use the Messages feature. You are both demonstrating the exact thing we do not want in this community. Please stop.

Dave

2023-11-03 01:29:03 +0000 UTC

Bangs head against wall Jesus Christ I thought this was over with. Alright, here's what is factually correct. 6 contractors. All of whom are ex military, 2 of them being former Navy SEALs, 3 being former Marines, and 1 being a former Army Ranger. Veterans, that took on contract work had to spend 13 hours holding out against an onslaught of terrorism with no support and 4 Americans were dead by the end of it

Blaze118

2023-11-03 01:28:36 +0000 UTC

Forget about the no stand down order issue,what does matter is lack of accountability on the part of those who should have acted yet failed to do anything to help,no one who has not served in the military should be allowed to run for the WH..it's a question of loyalty and selflessness..

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 01:22:06 +0000 UTC

Celeste, this film is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given. I am gracious for your family's service. My grandfather stormed a Normandy beach on D-Day. Not sure which beach (my brother may know). My grandfather essentially never talked about it but did say he could hear bullets whistling by him. Before that, he was in North Africa in a tank and was awarded a medal for destroying a bridge. My other grandfather served in the occupation of Germany after Germany surrendered. My Dad was in the ROTC, but never served -- instead getting deferments for college and then as a professor. My family was close with a few Vietnam war veterans -who were like uncles to me -- but they really didn't talk about their experience. I can vaguely remember the Fall of Saigon in 1975. As an aside, me and my son (then a teenager) spent 15 days in Vietnam in 2015. We spent a couple days in Hue and saw where some of the most intense fighting took place during the Tet Offensive. Our guide said her father was NVA and was wounded. We stayed 4 days in Hanoi -- at our hotel, went into the same bomb shelter that Jane Fonda did during US bombing raids. We also spent time in the Mekong Delta where fighting took place late in the war.

Clay F

2023-11-03 01:12:27 +0000 UTC

Are you giving the label "soldier" to the heroic high-paid contractors (mercenaries)? Whatever those heroes thought on the ground, the evidence is overwhelming that no stand-down order was given. General Petraeus was a soldier. Tammy Duckworth was a soldier who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq. Mike Rogers was a soldier (1985-89). From east Alabama -- a conservative and a Christian, father of three, and married to his wife (Beth) for over 35 years.

Clay F

2023-11-03 00:52:47 +0000 UTC

"Soldiers are brought up to tell the truth, and to take positive action. Since politicians, in the main, regard neither of these with great affection—they must forever please the people, regardless of what is true or what needs to be done—soldiers and political men are often in conflict." TR Fahrenbach (who, btw, wrote the definitive and extremely nuanced book on the Korean War: "This Kind of War").

Above Average Dave

2023-11-03 00:36:57 +0000 UTC

'Patton' 1970⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-03 00:36:14 +0000 UTC

I think I really need to watch this one too

Cassie

2023-11-03 00:24:33 +0000 UTC

Thank you to you as well, its a huge sacrifice to your whole family. Thank you!!

Cassie

2023-11-03 00:24:02 +0000 UTC

oooh ive wanted to see the covenant, is it out on streaming yet i wonder

Cassie

2023-11-03 00:20:08 +0000 UTC

"13 Hours" is factually incorrect. TRUTH = there was no stand down order given.

Clay F

2023-11-03 00:06:13 +0000 UTC

I was not there. The report by the House Intelligence Committee (led by Chairman Mike Rogers) said there was no stand-down order given. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq, stated: “Committee, after committee, after committee has found that there was no stand-down order,” noting that Gen. Petraeus testified the same. "[T]hree different committees have looked at this and have never found any evidence of any type of a stand-down order — period. There just wasn’t one.”

Clay F

2023-11-03 00:03:36 +0000 UTC

You were there? Tell us how it went down.

John P Tucker

2023-11-02 23:01:31 +0000 UTC

You nailed it Carol,Political influences can even be pointed out in a lot of Disney films..

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-02 22:56:28 +0000 UTC

Again, this is not the place to talk politics. I appreciate you and your family's sacrifices and service, but please stop.

Dave

2023-11-02 22:55:33 +0000 UTC

Four American heroes died needlessly because of the lack of initiative and incompetent state department leadership,I am a daughter,wife and sister of Veterans who served honorably,Clay,to me you sound like a armchair political advocate..

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-02 22:48:36 +0000 UTC

Put a highly volatile political subject,still fresh in most people's minds on a veterans day poll this is what you get..

Celeste McAllister

2023-11-02 22:38:01 +0000 UTC

"13 Hours" is the TRUE story of the events that transpired on the ground in Benghazi in Sept of 2012, as experienced by the brave Americans that gave everything to fend off a premeditated terrorist attack. This movie is powerful and emotional, and will make for a great watch-along with Cassie.

David Crabtree

2023-11-02 22:00:21 +0000 UTC

"13 Hours" -- This film is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given.

Clay F

2023-11-02 21:29:40 +0000 UTC

An Officer and a Gentleman would definitely be Great. I know She would Love it. But I don’t think it’s the best Veteran’s Day film. In my opinion, it’s more of a February/Valentines Film. Hopefully it will show back up on a Poll then.

Larry Darrell

2023-11-02 20:53:17 +0000 UTC

They were all veterans, nothing changes that, and I actually know a couple of them personally so let’s stay civil on here.

John P Tucker

2023-11-02 19:55:06 +0000 UTC

13 hours also has an 82 % Audience rating. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/13_hours_the_secret_soldiers_of_benghazi

Bill Maurer

2023-11-02 19:43:13 +0000 UTC

Gettysburg is a long but very good movie. An excellent cast as well

Bill Maurer

2023-11-02 19:40:27 +0000 UTC

Phoenix, congratulations on so successfully summarizing Dave's comment.

Happy Hanukkah

2023-11-02 18:19:30 +0000 UTC

Fantastic poll result! Very much looking forward to Cassie's reaction to the amazing "13 Hours."

David Crabtree

2023-11-02 18:02:12 +0000 UTC

Agree about the mud-flinging. It's sad that people can't just say, "I don't like this movie" or "I don't agree with its conclusions or presentation" and just move on. People can judge for themselves, or, best case, be inspired to do more research. For example: "Braveheart" is a fantastic movie and an incredible piece of film-making and acting on Mel Gibson's part. But as a historical document, not so much. Still, the number of people who saw the film then went on to read about William Wallace, Scottish independence, and or King Edward's rule after seeing that is exponentially larger than if it'd never been made or been a huge hit. We're all big kids here. We can decide for ourselves.

Above Average Dave

2023-11-02 16:18:59 +0000 UTC

Sorry but I only vote for the movie I think is best in the polll. Or at least best film that has a shot at winning.

Richard Maurer

2023-11-02 14:11:53 +0000 UTC

Again- this is NOT the place to talk politics. Please stop.

Dave

2023-11-02 12:05:59 +0000 UTC

"But an argument that a film constitutes fascist propaganda" Who is talking about a fascist movie? Or do you not know what fascism is? Here are some quotes I posted about it, and the proper place to talk about it - https://old.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/17jk9dq/til_use_of_the_german_flag_outside_of_sporting/k72h032/

Mike Lemon

2023-11-02 10:36:49 +0000 UTC

Its me Dave, again, movies are inherently political. You have a naive faith that we can talk about movies--war movies, no less--without ever touching upon politics. This does not excuse incivility or ad hominem attacks, and it also doesn't mean that a discussion 13 Hours should veer into side-discussions of what really happened on 1/6 or the history of American policies in the Mideast. But an argument that a film constitutes fascist propaganda is proper and making this argument should not merit personal attacks or censorship. Discussing movies is "fun" only if you refrain from actual discussion.

Carol_White

2023-11-02 10:29:52 +0000 UTC

I edited to delete "head in sand" within seconds after posting. Sorry. It was more about not wanting to be blind to evil stuff out there in considering what movie to vote for in a poll. But not well thought out and, as you noted, I deleted it. Thank you for your suggestion regarding sufficient language, which I will follow. I don't want to have political discussions here. I truly don't and won't. This instance threw me (I won't be thrown again) of this movie having an insidious history and purpose. Again, I will ignore any shocker going forward, even if seemingly out of place for the channel -- no matter what -- I won't comment. I could quit being a patron, but probably won't do that because I like Cassie's reactions too much. She comes across as a true empath. Thanks again.

Clay F

2023-11-02 07:25:10 +0000 UTC

Carol, I'm not saying we can't discuss inaccuracies or problems with movies here. That's half the fun most of the time. But politics does not need to be a part of it. As evidenced by the long thread of comments in this post alone, political talk often separates us, and also drives some wonderful people with wonderful insight away from the community. I'm pretty sure we don't want to be driving people away. Discussing movies is so much fun! In my lifetime politics has turned from disagreement with the other side into the wanton desire to not just disagree but to destroy the other side. The lack of respect shown to each other in some of these comments, regardless of who started the conversation, is why politics should have no place here.

Dave

2023-11-02 04:45:29 +0000 UTC

Your use of the term "right-wing propaganda" makes your reply political. Couple that with your original opening sentence "Head in the sand.", implying you know my political preferences (which you most certainly do not), makes your statement an attempt to engage in political discourse in order to make your point. As a moderator for Cassie and Ben and the channel, I appreciate the reconsideration of your original reply evident in your now-edited reply to my statement, but I also repeat my request to leave politics out of the discussion. The film may be propaganda, it may be right-wing. A simple "This film is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given" would have been a sufficient statement, and certainly free from being considered political. So please, leave politics out of it.

Dave

2023-11-02 04:34:27 +0000 UTC

Your earlier comment was not clear to me. I have no hate. Good luck to you too. Sincerely.

Clay F

2023-11-02 04:33:47 +0000 UTC

Yes this is a reaction channel, but this is also, according to Cassie at least, a place to discuss the movies themselves. A.) Movies have, like, meaning. B.) I can't know if I'm offended by a movie until I watch it;, so C.) After watching a movie, if I have problems with it, this Patreon seems like a legitimate space to express my concerns. While it might be regretted, this will inevitably bleed into political discussion--refer again to point A.

Carol_White

2023-11-02 04:13:42 +0000 UTC

Patrons when voting in a poll on the channel can legitimately choose to comment that 13 Hours is right-wing propaganda. The comment is directed to a particular movie in the poll and not an attempt to hijack the channel generally for political debate. As patrons, we pay $ in support of Cassie -- and to vote in polls and comment on movies in the poll.

Clay F

2023-11-02 03:44:37 +0000 UTC

After how brave she was during October... it's kind of a shame folks don't vote for the movie that Cassie would like most... An Officer & A Gentlemen. Instead of their own preference.

Octavia

2023-11-02 03:32:58 +0000 UTC

holy cow chill out

Phoenix Spaulding

2023-11-02 03:14:28 +0000 UTC

and there's definitely no history of people involved in movies like this lying for personal gain, pride, their own agenda, etc. "He was there" means pretty much nothing in stories like this.

Phoenix Spaulding

2023-11-02 03:14:10 +0000 UTC

Well Kris Paronto says it's accuate, and he was obviously there, and you were obviously not.

Bobby_Z24

2023-11-02 02:46:08 +0000 UTC

In case you've forgotten, this is a movie reaction channel. That's it, plain and simple. Cassie reacts to movies. That's it, plain and simple. The selection of films done for this or any other poll in this channel is done so blindly- Cassie hasn't seen them. No consideration is given to a film's "agenda", real or imagined. Cassie and Carly do not give public endorsement to the agenda, real or imagined, of any film in any poll. It's just simply Cassie and occasionally Carly sitting in a bed watching a movie, recording their reaction to it, and sharing that reaction with us. Being offended by a movie's agenda, politics, accuracy (or lack thereof), modesty (or lack thereof), or existence is anybody's and everybody's right. If you have a problem with a film, don't watch. If you disagree with a film, don't watch. If you dislike a certain actor, director, producer, production company, catering service, wardrobe department, theme song, ... don't watch. It really is that simple. Remember that Popcorn In Bed is not a space designed for political, religious, or social debate. It is a reaction channel. That's it, plain and simple. It is not a place where we tear at each other. If that's the sandbox you want to play (or fight) in, remember that the PiB playground doesn't have (or need) a sandbox. Remember that Cassie is just reacting to a movie, and remember that is the reason you showed up here - to watch someone react to a movie. If you've come for anything else, I kindly ask you to go find that something else somewhere else. Keep it down - I'm trying to watch a movie with my friend.

Dave

2023-11-02 02:25:58 +0000 UTC

"So you don't believe there should be a black history month and you don't believe the movie Schindler's list. " What the Hell are you talking about? It is obvious you are blinded by bigotry and do not read what is written, instead choosing to believe in whatever boogeyman you have imagined "the other side" is. "I may choose to no longer be a patron of a channel that promotes right-wing propaganda" QED I will say it again- "Hopefully someday you release that hate, you will feel better. Good luck."

Mike Lemon

2023-11-02 01:48:00 +0000 UTC

Paramount wanted the movie to be political in their effort to recruit a right-wing audience. The movie is intentionally misleading for political reasons = propaganda. There is nothing wrong with pointing out that a movie is propaganda. The movie is not a documentary but presents itself as having a factual basis and intentionally gives factual inaccuracies for political reasons. 13 hours (2016) - lauded by Trump and Fox News. Trump funded a special screening of 13 Hours for his supporters, and in which the Trump campaign stated: "Mr. Trump would like all Americans to know the truth [sic] about what happened at Benghazi."

Clay F

2023-11-02 01:03:03 +0000 UTC

Paramount wanted the movie to be political in their effort to recruit a right-wing audience. The movie is intentionally misleading for political reasons = propaganda. There is nothing wrong with pointing out that a movie is propaganda. The movie is not a documentary but presents itself as having a factual basis and intentionally gives factual inaccuracies for political reasons. 13 hours (2016) - lauded by Trump and Fox News. Trump funded a special screening of 13 Hours for his supporters, and in which the Trump campaign stated: "Mr. Trump would like all Americans to know the truth [sic] about what happened at Benghazi."

Clay F

2023-11-02 00:48:03 +0000 UTC

I've already said in another comment, but a film about a real life event with real political implications that is still fresh on people's minds and part of current political discourses makes that movie inherently political. But that's still no excuse for the mud flinging going on in this comment section (which you'll probably see more of when it shows up on Youtube).

Mario

2023-11-01 20:38:42 +0000 UTC

I don't know if it "had" to be political. Every movie ever made about a historical event is inaccurate BECAUSE it's a movie and not a documentary. And every documentary has a perspective, too and can easily be discerned almost from the outset. If someone doesn't like a film they should certainly vote against it and feel free to say, "I don't like it, it strays from the facts" or "The plot and pacing were slow" or whatever. But to start bringing politics into it, or to vilify large segments of the population in their comments, seems to be beyond the intent of this group.

Above Average Dave

2023-11-01 19:41:25 +0000 UTC

I totally would have voted for Memphis Belle had it been up there... always loved that movie.

Andrew Rose

2023-11-01 19:28:55 +0000 UTC

It’s a pretty weak field and there is no accounting for taste.

Marc Peterson

2023-11-01 17:29:41 +0000 UTC

But it's winning...'nuff said. And thank you, I was sitting this poll out, but your and the other guy's insane amount of bitching, has made me vote.

Mike Lemon

2023-11-01 14:15:46 +0000 UTC

13 Hours…box office flop , 51% Rotten Tomatoes and dubious historical accuracy…’nuff said.

Marc Peterson

2023-11-01 13:48:05 +0000 UTC

@Benjerro - Well said.

Mike Lemon

2023-11-01 13:15:21 +0000 UTC

I'm not from the US, so i have no dog in this fight(like many others here, we don't care about your politics) Your first comment was fine, not the right place and tone(IMO) but fine. Your second was clearly political and against the rules. I think you should get banned for this, especially because you kept going. Way to ruin the fun for people(for me atleast). I'm here because there are not his type of discussions. I think you have tainted(ruined) this movie slot for many, regardless which movie is picked. I hope Cassie didn't see this discussion because it will clearly influence her reaction.

Benjerro

2023-11-01 10:26:36 +0000 UTC

"People who believe there should not be a black history month,"- you mean, like Morgan Freeman? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s "don't believe Schindler's List"- Check out the news sometime. Those 'river to the sea' people are calling for a genocide and they are not the (U.S.) right. As for the rest of that nonsense, you have proven my original contention. Hopefully someday you release that hate, you will feel better. Good luck.

Mike Lemon

2023-11-01 09:23:00 +0000 UTC

Well at least I didn't vote for the least favorite option. Hamburger Hill is at 3%! One of my all-time favorite movie quotes comes from that movie..."It don't mean noth'n, not a thing!"

Barry Justice

2023-11-01 09:11:41 +0000 UTC

Michael Bay movies are to cinema the same way as my 4 year old nephew's finger paintings are to classical art.

Al Swearengen

2023-11-01 08:08:47 +0000 UTC

If only Cassie knew that An Officer and a Gentlemen was the perfect movie for her to watch. She would ball her eyes out. 😭

John Cranberry

2023-11-01 06:19:54 +0000 UTC

And it's a true story.

Shawn Kildal

2023-11-01 05:03:31 +0000 UTC

I have always wondered how much pressure it is for Cassie to pick a movie to react to. I can only imagine the massive amount of suggestions she gets (Constantine), However, I am, and I know we are all here because of how she reacts to movies. She alone is the only reason I am here typing this comment because I so thoroughly enjoy her reactions, her input and her honest opinion on how she receives a message or meaning in a movie and that brings me so much joy and peace to my life. War movies will always bring controversy, It's Always the why this, why that, against, because of this, because of that. It will always be sensitive but that's why some of these movies are made, to show the events that happened. its up to the watcher to see if so. - Semper Fidelis

Galatron 117

2023-11-01 04:57:24 +0000 UTC

Down Periscope!! I love that movie. Just not for this category. But thank you for reminding me of this movie- adding it to requests. The whale imitation never gets old. My brother served in the navy for 20 years. He “drove” the subs. Well that’s what he SAYS he did. Lol. But Down Periscope is one of his fav movies of all time. He actually can’t watch any serious submarine movies- they take him to a dark and sad place…the times that he doesn’t want to remember. Movies like Down Periscope remind him of all the good times. Him and his crew used to watch it all the time while on tours and in training actually.

Audrey

2023-11-01 01:36:27 +0000 UTC

I LOVE An Officer and a Gentleman! Gere at his finest! But I put this movie in more of the love story category. Or relationships in general. This movie, and again, I ❤️ this movie- it’s more about relationships in general, and the immense power that they have in your life…how they can influence who you are as a person. Relationships with the opposite sex, friendship, and also the relationship that you have with yourself…who you really are vs how you see yourself and who/what you are striving to be/become. When I think of military, remembrance, and the nation/people that I should remember proudly- I don’t think of this movie. Should cut Officer and a Gentleman and sub The Covenant (true story) with Gyllenhaal

Audrey

2023-11-01 01:30:33 +0000 UTC

Cassie you and Carly would like An Officer and a Gentleman.

Rick Williams

2023-11-01 00:20:50 +0000 UTC

I believe that some on the ground may have thought there was a stand down order, but there was no stand down order.

Clay F

2023-10-31 23:10:25 +0000 UTC

The lie of a stand down order is anti-American. Propaganda for political reasons is anti-American.

Clay F

2023-10-31 22:51:28 +0000 UTC

"I don't like this movie because I think it took massive liberties with the events depicted" while [1] wanting to memorialize such as truth [2] for political reasons [3] for the right wing. As for bigoted, the right wing who pushed/promoted this movie wins that award. People who believe there should not be a black history month, support the discrimination against gays depicted in Philadelphia (1993), agree with the logic of the Australian government in Rabbit-Proof Fence (2002), think kids of color (e.g., in Rabbit-Proof Fence) are ugly or monkeys, don't believe Schindler's List (1993) (indeed, push that the holocaust is a hoax), sympathetic to the behavior of Percy in The Green Mile (1993), want to teach in school there were positives of slavery for the slave in direct contradiction with the factual depiction in 12 Years A Slave (2013), don't like Prey (2022) or Barbie (2023) because woke, identify with the Richard Dreyfuss character of The American President (1995), side with Barnes over Elias in Platoon (1986), etc.

Clay F

2023-10-31 22:39:24 +0000 UTC

Hillary was asleep on her watch? Obama was too busy counting his money? Those are factual lies the right-wing paints with this movie. The intentional factual incorrectness for political reasons is the insidiousness of this movie and its promotion.

Clay F

2023-10-31 22:07:41 +0000 UTC

Now that it is mentioned, I would like Cassie to see The Dirty Dozen one day.

Mike LL

2023-10-31 21:31:54 +0000 UTC

@Mike Lemon, When you make a movie about a real life event that had political implications, it becomes a political movie. So people bringing current politics into the discussion is inevitable (especially when the event and movie are still fresh in people's minds and continues to be cited in political discourse today).

Mario

2023-10-31 21:16:46 +0000 UTC

@Mario- "that was OP." Which is who I initially replied to. "But Trump himself did praise the movie" Who cares? Ted Cruz likes The Princess Bride, it makes no difference to the movie at all. If Pol Pot liked The Wizard of Oz, The Wizard of Oz would still be a good movie. There was absolutely zero reason to bring current politics into a discussion about the movie, and little reason for "then politics" before the reaction.

Mike Lemon

2023-10-31 20:55:06 +0000 UTC

@Mike Lemon I didn't call it "MAGA pure propaganda", that was OP. But Trump himself did praise the movie and had implored people to see it and the idea that the "MAGA" crowd didn't exist prior to Trump is a little misleading. Those people had already existed for a long while, they just went by different names over the years (in Trump's case, many of his supporters were also part of the Tea Party movement, among other groups).

Mario

2023-10-31 20:43:05 +0000 UTC

@Mario - Tell me how, "MAGA pure propaganda." is needed when discussing a movie that started filming before Trump announced, released nearly a year before the election, and is about an event from 2012? A simple, "I don't like this movie because I think it took massive liberties with the events depicted," would suffice. There was absolutely zero need to get political and bigoted to talk about it.

Mike Lemon

2023-10-31 20:30:36 +0000 UTC

I don't usually leave comments on these patreon posts, so while unfortunate, it doesn't surprise me this category has invoked such strong reactions. And while there is a rule regarding political conversations, considering the subject matter of certain movies here, this was largely unavoidable without closing the comment section. Please be kinder to each other so we can avoid the latter from happening.

Mario

2023-10-31 20:02:12 +0000 UTC

@Jacob Antony I don't know if the book was intended to be political but the movie, intentional or not, certainly became one (Trump himself praised it and implored people to go see it).

Mario

2023-10-31 19:51:41 +0000 UTC

I mean, the people who make up the "MAGA" crowd had already existed, they just went by different names over the years. In fact, many of them were part of the Tea Party movement before Trump came along.

Mario

2023-10-31 19:38:25 +0000 UTC

@Mike Lemon I think 13 Hours is inherently a political movie, intentional or not, so there really was no way to avoid that discussion (unless the comment section was shut off or something).

Mario

2023-10-31 19:35:00 +0000 UTC

"Born on the Fourth of July" (a true story) would play well as a double feature with "First Blood" (not true but also covering mental health issues, albeit in a different way).

Above Average Dave

2023-10-31 18:56:41 +0000 UTC

You mean June 6, right? Although I can see the reference. Dec 7 was Pearl Harbor.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-31 18:36:56 +0000 UTC

Yes. I did.

Ken Thurman

2023-10-31 18:36:24 +0000 UTC

"They Shall Not Grow Old" would be a very different, but a very very worthwhile reaction.

Dryfesands

2023-10-31 18:14:54 +0000 UTC

Cassie, this is a very good poll you put together. I was torn between The Thin Red Line & Hamburger Hill, which are both very good. I ended up voting for Red Line. You will enjoy Courage Under Fire, it's very good, although I'm not a fan of the ending. I'll explain that to you later.

Mark Vaderr

2023-10-31 17:56:47 +0000 UTC

Really? Thanks for the head's up - I'll have to do a little research then :)

Story Archer

2023-10-31 17:55:05 +0000 UTC

Cassie watched The Great Escape.

Mark Vaderr

2023-10-31 17:46:08 +0000 UTC

She has reacted to it already

Blaze118

2023-10-31 17:41:52 +0000 UTC

I'd like to see The Great Escape make it into one of these polls - true story WWII movie loaded with stars from 60's including Steve McQueen; it's right up there with The Dirty Dozen.

Story Archer

2023-10-31 17:35:00 +0000 UTC

"Are we on X?" Most definitely not. Much more like coke or meth. Oh! Ah. Never mind, I misunderstood, old fart that I am. :-) Nonetheless, a round of MDMA for everyone! :-)

Happy Hanukkah

2023-10-31 17:08:07 +0000 UTC

'Zero Dark Thirty' Cassie has seen it but,let's do a re-watch see if Clay takes sides with the dastardly Usama Bin Laden..

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-31 16:40:28 +0000 UTC

From the bi-partisan Senate Intelligence Committee report: "Although some members of the security team expressed frustration that they were unable to respond more quickly to the Mission compound," there was "no evidence of intentional delay or obstruction by the Chief of Base or any other party." And the Republican-lead report by the House Armed Services Committee agreed. This is about facts and getting history right, of which Michael Bay is probably the least qualified to do so. Pearl Harbor was straight up insulting, painting a true life tragedy around a fictional romance, which consumed a large portion of the film. If you look up the historical accuracy of Pearl Harbor you’ll find small and large inaccuracies in how the battle unfolded, what planes were used, and the flying abilities of the planes at the time, just to name a few. All sacrificed for the sake of entertainment, by a director who famously said “I make movies for teenage boys. Oh dear, what a crime.” Well it should be criminal to falsely portray tragic events so inaccurately. And I’m supposed to suddenly lend credibility to Michael Bay? Nope.

Maxoutkast

2023-10-31 16:37:06 +0000 UTC

What matters is Hillary was asleep on her watch and Obama was to busy counting money to act accordingly,then Hillary looked the families of Glen Doherty,Tyrone Woods,J.Christopher Stevens & Sean Smith in the eyes and lied through her teeth..

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-31 16:33:08 +0000 UTC

Welcome aboard!

Mike Lemon

2023-10-31 16:10:52 +0000 UTC

Did you serve on a sub in the Navy?

Zane From Canada

2023-10-31 15:59:39 +0000 UTC

Down Periscope is hilarious. 😄

Zane From Canada

2023-10-31 14:53:04 +0000 UTC

The Longest Day should be on your radar for Dec 6 , D-Day.

hfwilliams

2023-10-31 14:40:01 +0000 UTC

great movie

Matt Rose

2023-10-31 14:30:25 +0000 UTC

Here's a novel idea for a select few on here, instead of attacking a movie you don't like, as well as attacking the people who like it, just throw support to the movies you do like. I know that seems like a radical idea.

David Crabtree

2023-10-31 14:13:11 +0000 UTC

I've been wanting them to react to Born on the Fourth of July for the longest time, especially when they were doing their run of Tom Cruise movies. But it apparently just isn't popular with people. I suspect it's because it's not exactly a rah-rah Michael Bay type of movie (one of which is, coincidentally, leading the poll).

WastedPo

2023-10-31 12:59:37 +0000 UTC

Yep. My favorite submarine movie. I served on Submarines. In some ways, it isn't too far off. Lol

Ken Thurman

2023-10-31 09:51:20 +0000 UTC

13 hours (2016), lauded by Trump and Fox News, was released after Trump's announced his presidential run. As part of his campaign tour, Trump funded a special screening of 13 Hours for his supporters. Trump campaign statement: "Mr. Trump would like all Americans to know the truth about what happened at Benghazi."

Clay F

2023-10-31 09:50:07 +0000 UTC

Good movie right there!

Blaze118

2023-10-31 09:48:18 +0000 UTC

Holy crap. Are we on X? Seems like there are a couple who are triggered. People need to relax a little. Again, I'm going with Down Periscope. Hopefully, nobody gets triggered over that one.

Ken Thurman

2023-10-31 09:43:19 +0000 UTC

I'm still going for Down Periscope.

Ken Thurman

2023-10-31 09:36:18 +0000 UTC

God the comments here are becoming more and more like Twitter and Facebook comment threads🙃

Blaze118

2023-10-31 09:35:27 +0000 UTC

ROTTEN TOMATOES (first to last) Hamburger Hill (1987) = 100% Though Shall Not Grow Old (2019) = 99% All Quiet on the Western Front (2022) = 90% Meagan Leavey = 86% Born on the 4th of July (1989) = 84% The Thin Red Line (1998) = 80% Thank You for Your Service = 76% 13 Hours (2016) = 51%

Clay F

2023-10-31 09:10:01 +0000 UTC

Clay, the "Vote '13 Hours' Committee" thanks you for your help.

Happy Hanukkah

2023-10-31 08:00:34 +0000 UTC

written long before MAGA was a thing. cry harder.

warcrimes

2023-10-31 07:54:25 +0000 UTC

also hahahahhahaha

warcrimes

2023-10-31 07:53:42 +0000 UTC

hahahhaahaha

warcrimes

2023-10-31 07:53:34 +0000 UTC

Same - except I switched from Officer and a Gentlemen.

Clay F

2023-10-31 06:12:05 +0000 UTC

13 hours (2016) is political. Indeed, the marketing campaign for the movie was aimed largely at the right-leaning audience. The movie was an initiative by Paramount to reach right-leaning moviegoers. Conservative pundits espoused the movie big time.

Clay F

2023-10-31 06:07:19 +0000 UTC

The report by the House Intelligence Committee (led by Chairman Mike Rogers) said there was no stand-down order given. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq, stated: “Committee, after committee, after committee has found that there was no stand-down order,” noting that Gen. Petraeus testified the same. “[T]hree different committees have looked at this and have never found any evidence of any type of a stand-down order — period. There just wasn’t one.”

Clay F

2023-10-31 05:50:18 +0000 UTC

I actually did the same thing - except I switched from Hamburger Hill.

Richard Maurer

2023-10-31 04:48:24 +0000 UTC

I really don't want to see 13 HOURS win this poll, so I'm switching my vote from THE THIN RED LINE (which, as I suspected, doesn't have a prayer) to the movie that actually does have a chance of defeating Bay's movie: ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT, which I haven't even seen yet but have been meaning to as I've heard nothing but good things about it.

Stick Figure Studios

2023-10-31 04:03:34 +0000 UTC

I definitely support An Officer and Gentleman (1982); as I've seen that a few times with my mom in the mid 80's. The areas it was filmed in is some of the best scenery in Washington State. And yes I am biased because I was born and raised in Seattle. Also because it has Debra Winger :)

Randolph Tirazona

2023-10-31 02:30:22 +0000 UTC

....Which doesn't change the fact that they were mercenaries - hired guns.

Richard Maurer

2023-10-31 01:57:32 +0000 UTC

1981! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

Todzilla

2023-10-31 01:34:46 +0000 UTC

I picked "Thank You For Your Service" as it is quite apropos for Remembrance/Veteran's Day.

Doug Fisher

2023-10-31 01:27:53 +0000 UTC

The 1930 version of all quiet on the western front is considered a classic.

John Liebling

2023-10-31 01:20:42 +0000 UTC

From the list an officer and a gentleman is the once Cassie and Carly would enjoy the most. And born on the 4th of the July is the one which would be the most painful for them.

John Liebling

2023-10-31 01:16:55 +0000 UTC

Perfect description.

David Crabtree

2023-10-31 01:16:38 +0000 UTC

1987? :)

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-31 00:58:20 +0000 UTC

The three people that wrote the book were heavily involved in the movie. I just watched an episode of the Shawn Ryan Show which featured Oz and they released it on the 10th anniversary.

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:48:48 +0000 UTC

Is this Facebook? I thought it was PIB Patreon..

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-31 00:46:30 +0000 UTC

What did happen then? Are you saying that a terrorist attack that took the life of an US Ambassador, an Information Officer, and two contractors that were acting as security didn't die?

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:46:22 +0000 UTC

The contractors in Benghazi was acting as security to the CIA personal and as secondary security for the an United States Ambassador.

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:40:35 +0000 UTC

So you believe an CIA officer who wouldn't be identified by name over the military personal on the ground. Whom had been described as watching out for his own hide throughout the event.

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:36:33 +0000 UTC

Even though the book was released a full year before Trump announced his presidential run.

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:32:53 +0000 UTC

Your believing the politicians?

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:32:06 +0000 UTC

Can't wait for you to watch 13 Hours. I just watched a podcast featuring a survivor of the event that released on the 10th anniversary, which coincidentally happened on September 11th. And while it's made by Michael Bay, 3 of the survivors worked as consultants on the film. It's controversial because politically it was described as a protest turned violent, but looking at the facts, it's easy to see that it was pre-planned and strategically carried out, which makes it a terrorist attack. The military contractors and others with the knowledge of the attack layed the blame at a politician feet and because she was a political opponent of Donald Trump, it was labeled a MAGA propaganda movie. Even though the book that the movie was adapted from was released years before the election.

Jacob Antony

2023-10-31 00:29:09 +0000 UTC

I don't think it's a spoiler, but all the beards in Gettysburg should've been credited and nominated as supporting actors.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-31 00:17:06 +0000 UTC

Great movie and better book.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-31 00:16:07 +0000 UTC

Orwell, who may have been a time traveler given current events and government structures, said it.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-31 00:14:10 +0000 UTC

Ignore them David, these are people who would blindly believe leadership over the boots on the ground that actually had to hold the line.

Blaze118

2023-10-31 00:09:24 +0000 UTC

I sure wish we could do "write-ins" I would be voting for "The Big Red 1" over any of these. I might have voted for "All Quiet on the Western Front" IF they were viewing the 1979 version. The 2022 version isn't worth the 2 hrs to watch.

Dan

2023-10-30 23:33:16 +0000 UTC

From the FAQ- Patreon Rules: Most of these go without saying, but: ... 3. No religious or political discussion. This is not a place to discuss politics or religion. This is a place to discuss movies and shows that you love (or don't love). ...

Mike Lemon

2023-10-30 23:27:02 +0000 UTC

Pal, you want to spread your anti-American lies, do it on your own thread. Stay off of mine.

David Crabtree

2023-10-30 23:18:49 +0000 UTC

Yep. 13 hours = utter garbage.

Clay F

2023-10-30 23:12:28 +0000 UTC

Strongly agree.

Clay F

2023-10-30 23:12:06 +0000 UTC

Yep, very disturbing. Especially with the 13 hours movie filled with falsehoods. Propaganda.

Clay F

2023-10-30 23:11:46 +0000 UTC

Huh ??? Did you watch the same movie I did? Did you read the book as well?

Bill Maurer

2023-10-30 23:10:58 +0000 UTC

13 hours (2016) is the worst in the poll. Propaganda. Falsely shows a stand down order. I voted An Officer and a Gentlemen (1987), which I think Cassie would like the best. My daughter (not much younger than Cassie) likes that movie. Overall, a good list in the poll. I like The Thin Red Line (1998). My 2nd choice. Surreal. Star-studded cast. I like the two WWI movies (refreshing to have WWI instead of WWII or Vietnam). I liked Hamburger Hill (1987) as a young adult. I like Born on the 4th of July (1989) but depressing (yet, I guess most war movies are).

Clay F

2023-10-30 22:59:35 +0000 UTC

Agree. Count me out of that watch.

David Blount

2023-10-30 22:55:08 +0000 UTC

Yeh, like others, suprised to see 4th July lagging. It is literally all about remembering veterans. Western front gets my vote though because that really does show you how utterly pointless all these wars are.

Ria Grix

2023-10-30 22:49:47 +0000 UTC

That is what I was thinking.

Clay F

2023-10-30 22:36:54 +0000 UTC

There is no evidence of a “stand down” order (as falsely given in the movie) that would have stopped American help from reaching the compound.

Clay F

2023-10-30 22:25:32 +0000 UTC

Ditto. It's shameful that MAGA politicized this. There is no evidence of a “stand down” order (as falsely given in the movie) that would have stopped American help from reaching the compound. And it’s unclear that any different decisions on the night of September 11, 2012—from the top brass in Washington to the CIA at the annex next door—could have saved the ambassador. An issue was that security funding for US embassies worldwide had been cut.

Clay F

2023-10-30 22:22:08 +0000 UTC

There is a lot of great picks here. born on the Fourth of July and thank you for your service depict more after they come home. Which is, difficult, but needed to see. I personally love thank you for your service as it hits a subject close to my heart. “Invisible” injuries. PTSD. A great reminder that we owe it to the men and women that come home from war, certain benefits that were promised that as a whole we often don’t keep. A tough but thought provoking watch certainly.

Brandon

2023-10-30 22:05:06 +0000 UTC

Nope

Joe Mallard

2023-10-30 22:00:12 +0000 UTC

I believe she has already seen it.

Brandon

2023-10-30 21:57:21 +0000 UTC

Gettysburg based on Pulitzer Prize novel The Killer Angels stars Tom Berenger Jeff Daniels Martin Sheen Sam Elliott…fabulous Das Boot incredible UBoat movie a classic. Dr Strangelove Stanley Kubrick biting satire of the Cold War starring Peter Sellers and George C Scott….Speaking of George C Scott…Patton Academy award film and actor…. Finally a much needed 1960’s feel good comedy…Father Goose set in WW2 S. Pacific with Cary Grant and the lovely Leslie Caron (one of the last living actresses of the golden age of Hollywood) Cary is a grizzled hermit tricked by the Aussie Navy into being a plane spotter and Leslie is shipwrecked with 7 adorable school girls on to his island and hilarity ensues. War action V. the Japanese is very realistic. Think The Pacific meets African Queen meets Roman Holiday. You and Carly will love it!

Marc Peterson

2023-10-30 21:42:42 +0000 UTC

A few future candidates

Marc Peterson

2023-10-30 21:31:26 +0000 UTC

Someday you need to watch A BRIDGE TO FAR

James Rex

2023-10-30 21:22:31 +0000 UTC

A really good film in the war genre is “A Midnight Clear”(1992). The acting is amazing and the story is captivating. It seems to get lost among all of the high budget special effects war movies. But it packs a punch. It’s one of my favorite war films. I highly recommend it!!!

Juley

2023-10-30 21:21:26 +0000 UTC

Richard Attenborough's directorial debut World War I film musical Oh! What a Lovely War (1969) is a brilliantly powerful, moving film with an all-star cast including Laurence Olivier, John Mills, John Gielgud, Maggie Smith, Vanessa Redgrave, Jean Pierre Cassel and Ian Holm. I think that film would make a really great reaction during a Remembrance Day/Veteran's Day. It has a very powerful moving ending and on the director's DVD commentary Attenborough himself is very close to tears watching that final scene.

JONATHAN REDFERN WILLIAMS

2023-10-30 20:50:04 +0000 UTC

Dick Cheney, is that you? These "Contractors" are war profiteers. Nothing more. How juvenile a mind set you must have to be unable to distinguish between U.S. soldiers and warhawk mercenaries, profiting from illegal wars.

Al Swearengen

2023-10-30 20:42:35 +0000 UTC

Simo Häyhä 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮

Björn Karlsson

2023-10-30 20:38:01 +0000 UTC

I like that movie. There is also a remake of that movie from 95 with Jim Belushi 🙂

Björn Karlsson

2023-10-30 20:33:52 +0000 UTC

Very notable fact about The Thin Red Line (1998); Martin Scorsese was invited to be a guest critic on Siskel & Ebert's Top ten greatest movies of the 1990s (because Siskel had recently died). He put The Thin Red Line (1998) on the list in SECOND place, above Pulp Fiction (1994), Fargo (1996), Malcolm X (1992), Heat (1995), Crash (1996), Bottle Rocket (1996), Breaking the Waves (1996), Bad Lieutenant (1992), and Kubrick's final film Eyes Wide Shut (1999)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXIxJQaPa_k

JONATHAN REDFERN WILLIAMS

2023-10-30 20:30:20 +0000 UTC

I was lucky enough to see Private Ryan at one of the exclusive premiers. Before we went in, 17 D-Day vets came into the green room/pre-premier area. I was in my early 30s but understood well that everything changed. This wasn't a movie anymore. I sat next to two of the vets. More than one of the 17 had to leave during the first 30 mins. I was next to two Airborne. One leaned into me and said, "Those guys on the beach never had a chance." This from a man who jumped out of a perfectly good airplane under heavy ack-ack and tracer fire in the dark and landed under MG-42 fire behind enemy lines. I couldn't say anything during or after. We all were crying.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-30 20:10:56 +0000 UTC

Chris Pine Eric Bana Casey Affleck…fantastic cast and story

Marc Peterson

2023-10-30 20:09:37 +0000 UTC

Really pulling for 13 Hours. Michael Bay did such a fantastic job being true to the events as they happened on the ground. Such a great, powerful film!

David Crabtree

2023-10-30 20:08:21 +0000 UTC

How about The Finest Hours 2016 true story of US Coast Guard heroic 1952 rescue mission

Marc Peterson

2023-10-30 20:07:55 +0000 UTC

13 Hours pure MAGA propaganda.

Marc Peterson

2023-10-30 20:05:43 +0000 UTC

But they aren't out. They chose to go back and kill for money. They also get paid to risk their lives. And yes, I know enlisted soldiers get paid, but unlike mercs they can't just decide to leave whenever they want to and don't make anywhere near what the "contractors" do. As for the time they spent in the real military, of course I respect that, my father was a WWII vet, and I respect all real soldiers. But that's not what this movie is about. And sorry a private contractor (merc) isn't the same as a real soldier, not in my eyes anyway. They make the choice, and live (or die) with the consequences of that choice. I really find it strange that mercenaries were looked down upon by most people until they started working for corporations and called themselves contractors. That's some nice PR work there, I'll give them that.

Richard Maurer

2023-10-30 19:57:50 +0000 UTC

Interesting to see AQ second. 13 hours is utter garbage.

AdrianF

2023-10-30 19:50:40 +0000 UTC

"disturbing"...ok bud. I guess the decades they spent in the military before hand doesn't mean anything? It's funny you treat them the way America treats its current veterans. Once out, you forget about them.

Chris

2023-10-30 19:31:28 +0000 UTC

Black Narcissus (1947)

Larry Darrell

2023-10-30 19:22:01 +0000 UTC

I will never vote for a Michael Bay film, especially one where the facts are disputed by the CIA officer who was there. “There never was a stand-down order,” the officer – the former chief of the so-called Annex who identified himself as ‘Bob’ – told the Washington Post. “At no time did I ever second-guess that the team would depart.”

Maxoutkast

2023-10-30 19:20:40 +0000 UTC

The soldiers at Benghazi weren't US military, they were private "contractors". That's the euphemism they use for mercenaries. The only difference is that contractors work for a corporation while mercenaries work for themselves, but they're basically the same thing. They're only called contractors because the word mercenary has such a bad connotation The idea that this movie is winning a poll to honor veterans who volunteered their service for their country is disturbing, to say the least.

Richard Maurer

2023-10-30 19:18:15 +0000 UTC

Flanders Field is a classic, but I consider the best WW1 poem to be the "horrible" The Parable of the Old Man and the Young, by Wilfred Owen (who jdj830 already mentioned): So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went, And took the fire with him, and a knife. And as they sojourned both of them together, Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father, Behold the preparations, fire and iron, But where the lamb for this burnt-offering? Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps, and builded parapets and trenches there, And stretchèd forth the knife to slay his son. When lo! an angel called him out of heaven, Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad, Neither do anything to him. Behold, A ram, caught in a thicket by its horns; Offer the Ram of Pride instead of him. But the old man would not so, but slew his son, And half the seed of Europe, one by one.

Happy Hanukkah

2023-10-30 19:13:38 +0000 UTC

Surprised Born on the 4th of July is trailing behind. I have wanted to see All Quiet On The Western Front as I've heard it's quite good, but I think an Officer and a Gentleman ('82 is a great year for movies) is the one that Cassie will appreciate the most. EDIT: Changed my vote to 13 hours. Streisand Effect.

rakesh

2023-10-30 19:02:11 +0000 UTC

Remembrance Day was chosen based upon "The Great War" ended on 11/11/1918 at 11:00am.

Mark

2023-10-30 19:00:28 +0000 UTC

still hoping you could squeeze in The Majestic for another Veterans day movie

zynjams

2023-10-30 19:00:12 +0000 UTC

Veterans Day is very important to many people, especially me! My Grandpa served in the Navy in WWII, he was almost stationed at Pearl Harbor before it was bombed, but luckily he didn't get there until after the surprise attack! My Grandpa's brother I want to say served in the Marines, but was unfortuantly one of the many POW's that was captured by the Japanese along with Filipino allies, and was butchered by the Japanese in a savage war crime known as The Bataan Death March! My vote is for THE THIN RED LINE, it's a pretty good movie from what I can tell, I've only seen bits and pieces of it in the past and it involves the Battle of Guadalcanal, something that you've seen before in the mini series you watched a long time ago THE PACIFIC! It's got a great cast of actors! By the looks of it I can see it's not winning, oh well! I'm down with anything! Too bad you don't have Memphis Belle on the list, that is a good movie and I know you'll love it! Sean Astin (Samwise) is in it lol! Hope you have a good day Cassie, watched your reaction to IT last night and enjoyed it and I left a very heart warming comment for you! Love and support always🥰😁😉😇🙏👍🌹

Wesley White

2023-10-30 18:55:04 +0000 UTC

Pick Officer and a Gentleman cuz it is the perfect representation of the RAREST of genres...the "Military Chick-Flick" here's hoping we can see a reaction from you and Carly one day. And as a US Army veteran I can say with authority that the intense heavy contact congratuity gore are highly overrated.✌️😀

JollymonSing

2023-10-30 18:29:22 +0000 UTC

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” Is this something Churchill said? I see it frequently credited to him. Another version reads: “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

Gregory Maxwell

2023-10-30 18:28:44 +0000 UTC

My favorite Clint Eastwood movie!

David Crabtree

2023-10-30 18:20:28 +0000 UTC

Shakespeare in Love also won because it was a very good movie, but no doubt Weinstein influenced the results.

Cole Jennett

2023-10-30 18:17:04 +0000 UTC

Lava Bomb! Not to "date" myself, but when I was younger we had 'Tora Tora Tora' on RCA Electronic Disc!! Not to be confused with "laser disc". The RCA discs came in big square sleeves that protected them from dust. Tora Tora Tora was so long it was a two disc set!

Todzilla

2023-10-30 18:04:53 +0000 UTC

Soldier, ask not - now, or ever, Where to war your banners go. Anarch's legions all surround us. Strike - and do not count the blow! Glory, honor, praise and profit, Are but toys of tinsel worth. Render up your work, unasking, Leave the human clay to earth. Blood and sorrow, pain unending, Are the portion of us all. Grasp the naked sword, opposing, Gladly in the battle fall. So shall we, anointed soldiers, Stand at last before the Throne, Baptized in our wounds, red-flowing, Sealed unto our Lord - alone! by Gordon R. Dickson

Allen W. McDonnell

2023-10-30 17:41:40 +0000 UTC

What else would you expect from Michael Bay?

Stick Figure Studios

2023-10-30 17:37:49 +0000 UTC

SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE won because Harvey Weinstein played dirty in his Oscar campaigning that year, something Steven Spielberg refused to do.

Stick Figure Studios

2023-10-30 17:37:09 +0000 UTC

Needs Heartbreak Ridge

Alex Laime

2023-10-30 17:32:07 +0000 UTC

Are you Jimmy’s cousin from across the pond?

Shehab Dawoud

2023-10-30 17:32:02 +0000 UTC

Here's a 12-minute documentary on the history of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Seemed fitting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH37fvDcqU8

Brent Petty

2023-10-30 17:30:11 +0000 UTC

If you like Tom Cruise, Born On The Fourth Of July is his best performance. But be warned, the film will break you heart.

Jay E Bjorklund

2023-10-30 17:25:31 +0000 UTC

Taking Chance, is an underrated gem imho

Blindsquirrel

2023-10-30 17:16:36 +0000 UTC

Thank you for picking Courage Under Fire! It is a great film, and one Carly could 100% watch. It is set against the backdrop of Desert Shield/Desert Storm in 1991, and there is some war violence, it is almost more of a investigational movie that is set in the military. It also has some big names involved in it: Denzel, Matt Damon, Meg Ryan (probably her best performance). There is also a small role for Sean Astin (Samwise from LOTR), and it is directed by Edward Zwick (Glory, Legends of the Fall, and The Last Samurai).

Brent Petty

2023-10-30 17:15:20 +0000 UTC

I have never seen that but have been wanting to watch it for awhile. I think I will wait and watch it with Cassie. Whenever she decides to watch it cause it’s clearly not gonna win.

brooke atkins

2023-10-30 17:13:47 +0000 UTC

I had suggested An Officer and a Gentleman for Tender November, but it also works for February.

2-Can

2023-10-30 17:09:03 +0000 UTC

I read the book prior to the movie coming out, and Michael Bay did such a fantastic job being true the events as they happened on the ground. Such a great, powerful film!

David Crabtree

2023-10-30 17:07:31 +0000 UTC

Because we like to be different I guess, the US will be celebrating Veterans Day, which honors and celebrates the service of all veterans, our Remembrance Day is “Memorial Day”, which is observed in May. I’ll wish for Memphis Belle next time (hey, maybe in May), but you’re already watched the movie that captures Remembrance/Memorial Day very well: “Taking Chance.” So, thanks for that! “13 Hours in Benghazi” is my vote because it’s nonfiction like “Taking Chance”, and not enough people are aware these events took place. Plus, those men deserve public recognition even if it’s a few thousand views on a reaction channel 🙂. Good poll!

Ike

2023-10-30 17:04:43 +0000 UTC

Even if it doesn't win this, you HAVE to watch An Officer and a Gentleman. It's really a love story as much as a boot camp/military movie.

Michael Moody

2023-10-30 17:03:39 +0000 UTC

Would love to see Paths of Glory reacted to.

Tyler Foster

2023-10-30 17:01:19 +0000 UTC

Yes, please. Also The Red Shoes and A Matter of Life and Death.

Tyler Foster

2023-10-30 17:00:41 +0000 UTC

They shall not grow old is a brilliant docudrama by Peter Jackson

AC5555

2023-10-30 16:57:57 +0000 UTC

Id vote for all quiet partly because I also want Cassie to see more Oscar wins and nominations from the last few years. Few reactions to say quiet girl, close, all quiet. Etc

AC5555

2023-10-30 16:57:20 +0000 UTC

STRANGE MEETING It seemed that out of battle I escaped Down some profound dull tunnel, long since scooped Through granites which titanic wars had groined. Yet also there encumbered sleepers groaned, Too fast in thought or death to be bestirred. Then, as I probed them, one sprang up, and stared With piteous recognition in fixed eyes, Lifting distressful hands, as if to bless. And by his smile, I knew that sullen hall,— By his dead smile I knew we stood in Hell. With a thousand fears that vision's face was grained; Yet no blood reached there from the upper ground, And no guns thumped, or down the flues made moan. “Strange friend,” I said, “here is no cause to mourn.” “None,” said that other, “save the undone years, The hopelessness. Whatever hope is yours, Was my life also; I went hunting wild After the wildest beauty in the world, Which lies not calm in eyes, or braided hair, But mocks the steady running of the hour, And if it grieves, grieves richlier than here. For by my glee might many men have laughed, And of my weeping something had been left, Which must die now. I mean the truth untold, The pity of war, the pity war distilled. Now men will go content with what we spoiled. Or, discontent, boil bloody, and be spilled. They will be swift with swiftness of the tigress. None will break ranks, though nations trek from progress. Courage was mine, and I had mystery; Wisdom was mine, and I had mastery: To miss the march of this retreating world Into vain citadels that are not walled. Then, when much blood had clogged their chariot-wheels, I would go up and wash them from sweet wells, Even with truths that lie too deep for taint. I would have poured my spirit without stint But not through wounds; not on the cess of war. Foreheads of men have bled where no wounds were. “I am the enemy you killed, my friend. I knew you in this dark: for so you frowned Yesterday through me as you jabbed and killed. I parried; but my hands were loath and cold. Let us sleep now. . . .” - Wilfred Owen, who died in battle a week before the Armistice

jdj830

2023-10-30 16:55:50 +0000 UTC

Ryan doesn’t focus on the the whole scope of a military engagement the way Thin Red Line does.

AC5555

2023-10-30 16:54:54 +0000 UTC

Gotta see All quiet

AC5555

2023-10-30 16:53:51 +0000 UTC

A few to put on your list. The second and third on this list are about the same group of men but from different points of view. Maybe for Black History Month? A Soldiers Story (1984) Denzel Washington The Tuskegee Airmen (1995) Laurence Fishburn Red Tails (2012) Terrance Howard U-517 (2000) Matthew McConaughey

Javier Hernandez

2023-10-30 16:53:35 +0000 UTC

I think it has been unjustly overshadowed by RYAN released earlier that year, taking all the fame, glory, recognition and box office. What still puzzles me though, how SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE was able to win so many of the Oscars, including best picture and many other key categories.

Gábor Árki

2023-10-30 16:53:10 +0000 UTC

Officer and a gentleman fits two of your categories. A love story. And the challenges of military training

Doc Larry

2023-10-30 16:49:48 +0000 UTC

I would implore you to watch the original 1930 version of All Quiet on the Western Front instead of the recent German version. What’s so remarkable about the older film is that it universalizes the story, and invites all its listeners to understand what it’s like to be on the losing side of a war without dwelling on the historical particulars that would have been lost to the actual people on the ground in real time anyway. Whereas the new version feels an awful lot like a display of German self-pity, a justification for the same emotions they felt after WWI and we all know where that led. (And by the way, most German critics agree with me.) Some films I wish you would consider: Paths of Glory (1957). This combination war film/courtroom drama set in WWI and starring Kurt Douglas is succinct, intelligent, and deeply compelling. It’s directed by Stanley Kubrick, who later did Full Metal Jacket, but this is a far better movie imo. Judgment at Nuremberg (1961). This is another military courtroom drama and the ultimate example of the genre. Starring pretty much everyone, this should be required viewing for anyone who wonders how we can hold countries accountable for their behavior during wartime. Ran (1985). Akira Kurosawa’s masterpiece, a riveting, profound and visually stunning battle epic. Hair (1979). I know this seems like an odd choice, but this musical gives some valuable historical context to the Vietnam War and how it affected the attitudes of American youth. Speaking of which, I cast my vote for Born on the Fourth of July.

jdj830

2023-10-30 16:46:34 +0000 UTC

Lovely to hear that. Also, if I may be so bold, if you want something a bit lighter to watch this month, might I recommend "Disney films" for your next poll? I really enjoyed your "Robin Hood" reaction from months back, plus a couldn't help but notice a few classics absent from your Letterboxd account. Just a suggestion.

Jake McNulty

2023-10-30 16:39:36 +0000 UTC

Lol,RG is a 'Silver Daddy'♡

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-30 16:37:39 +0000 UTC

Agree completely. Not sure why things like Midway, Bridge too far and other films like these did not make the list.

Benjamin Gerrald

2023-10-30 16:36:22 +0000 UTC

Good,that way you'll get the most out of watching them..

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-30 16:35:45 +0000 UTC

Here’s a little history on The Thin Red Line for anyone interested. The Thin Red Line is like no war film you’ve ever seen or will ever see again, it has just about every movie star in it imaginable of the era. The writer/director(Terence Malick) was legendary at the time. In the 1970s Malick made two landmark films(Badlands & Days of heaven) that were extremely well received. He was hailed as a visionary, a genius. He was the new popular kid in town. And then POOF. He disappeared. After Days of Heaven in 1978 he stopped making films. No one knew why. He just stopped and wasn’t heard from for another 20 years. Until 1998 when The Thin Red Line came out. Almost every actor wanted to work on the film. Major stars took reduced salaries just for the privilege of working on a new Terence Malick film. Some even had their scenes and characters cut out of the final edit. However… another World War 2 movie was released in 1998 by another MAJOR director. The director? Steven Spielberg. The movie? Saving Private Ryan. So in the press at the time it was “the battle of the two war films” Malick Vs Spielberg. While Thin Red Line was nominated for many Oscar’s, including best picture/director, it was Saving Private Ryan that became the huge box office and cultural hit/landmark. The Thin Red Line had its admirers to be sure. But it took awhile for the film to really become movie it is now. Some say it’s aged better than SPR. But really they are two vastly different films about two vastly different theatres of war.

Stan the Man

2023-10-30 16:35:39 +0000 UTC

History Buffs channel gave TTT 1970 high marks for historical accuracy..it's a slow burn but,a must watch!

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-30 16:33:39 +0000 UTC

13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi. is disgusting CIA Hollywood propaganda and a rewrite of history in an attempt to cover up what actually happened. it is entertaining though, but most of it is total fiction.

Aldous Orwell

2023-10-30 16:32:02 +0000 UTC

CMON 13 Hours! 🤞🏾 I’ve been wanting you to watch this since last year 😅 Even if it just gets Runner Up I’d be happy. It’s such a thrill ride with some amazing names in it! And your favorite: based on True Events!!

Chad Bailey

2023-10-30 16:30:45 +0000 UTC

I agree 100 percent

Stuart Guthrie Jr.

2023-10-30 16:29:21 +0000 UTC

I have long considered "An Officer and a Gentleman" to be one of the greatest movies of the 1980s - not only that, Cassie would LOVE it (except for a particular scene toward the end with David Keith). Not a ton of votes in, but it currently sits third - I hope it wins. It is a truly exceptional film.

Cliff Endicott

2023-10-30 16:27:50 +0000 UTC

How about 'Tora Tora Tora' 1970 for Pearl Harbor day.⭐⭐⭐⭐

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-30 16:27:36 +0000 UTC

Most films that come to my mind DNA. There are two which I believe apply. The original The Four Feathers (1939) and Since You Went Away (1944). Neither are what could be called your typical war movie, but both are quite moving in their own special way.

Steven M.

2023-10-30 16:26:32 +0000 UTC

I also love the bts story of Damon getting cast for something, Bourne maybe? While he was on set for Courage... He's told it in interviews before.

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:26:04 +0000 UTC

True, but They Shall Not Grow Old is a documentary style film with lots of actual footage; All Quiet, though a masterpiece, is a work of fiction (based on horrifying true events).

Raj K. Dixit

2023-10-30 16:25:58 +0000 UTC

Will be a good one to watch before Masters Of Air series 😉

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:24:45 +0000 UTC

The bit where the guys head explodes has always stayed with me. Mostly for the dodgy latex skin flapping around.

Biggman83

2023-10-30 16:24:17 +0000 UTC

Saw it with one of my E-7's who was there, well, in the valley, fighting on a different hill, but still. He liked it, felt it captured the heart of the situation, but wasn't "too hard" to watch for him. (Which I know stuff like Private Ryan was for some WWII vets...)

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:22:16 +0000 UTC

Lost opportunity: I would suggest Sahara (1943), a great H. Bogart movie. Cassie should see Lloyd Bridges as a 30 year old actor rather than only in his later career.

TXW

2023-10-30 16:20:35 +0000 UTC

First Blood should be on this list even though it's a fictional film, but it does touch on the PTSD that comes from war.

Joe Mallard

2023-10-30 16:20:22 +0000 UTC

One of the few ones on the list to tell a vets story, and it's a good one! I agree 💯

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:20:19 +0000 UTC

Good one, I prefer Tora! Tora! Tora! Though it's a long one!

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:19:35 +0000 UTC

cannot wait for the Courage Under Fire reaction, have always had praise for that one and feel like not enough people talk about it…as far as the poll, regardless of which movie wins I feel confident you’ll get to Born on the Fourth of July eventually since it stars your good friend Mr. Tom Cruise, lol

JL_83

2023-10-30 16:19:14 +0000 UTC

Does it not reunite a couple of "The Office" actors? (No spoilers 🥴)

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:18:46 +0000 UTC

Courage Under Fire

Michael H. the Lord of the Legacy

2023-10-30 16:18:26 +0000 UTC

Cassie has seen Sniper, I think.

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:17:21 +0000 UTC

Agree.

Todzilla

2023-10-30 16:17:05 +0000 UTC

That is a tough choice, but I think I'm going with THE THIN RED LINE. It is a hard one though. Given it's going to be the 82nd anniversary, may I suggest TORA! TORA! TORA! (1970) as the war movie for the December? It is the better movie about the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor. Also, a very unique production because it is showing both sides of the conflict, filmed and directed by an American and a Japanese crew respectively. It may even be extended to a whole theme week. In that case, my follow-up suggestions are: - MIDWAY (2019), dealing with the aftermath of the attack and the better movie made about the battle of Midway. - THE FINAL COUNTDOWN (1980), a military themed movie also revolving around the attack in a very unique way and has one of the best aerial cinematography ever.

Gábor Árki

2023-10-30 16:17:01 +0000 UTC

It won't win, but, Born on the Fourth of July is truly about Veterans, not strictly a combat war movie, which is what the day is truly about, at least to me, a vet myself. All these are great "war movies" but only a few portray the life of a vet after combat. Semper Fidelis, Semper Paratus. 🪖🎖️

Jon Johns

2023-10-30 16:16:49 +0000 UTC

It is very good but perhaps not for Remembrance Day? It would be a great watch from the Valentine's list in February. It's more of a love story than a war movie.

Oisin Clissmann

2023-10-30 16:16:47 +0000 UTC

I think you’d enjoy Officer and a Gentleman the most.

David Blount

2023-10-30 16:16:30 +0000 UTC

Hamburger Hill all the way!

Todzilla

2023-10-30 16:16:08 +0000 UTC

All Quiet on the Western Front is also about World War I....and Flanders Fields.

Jeffrey Schmidbauer

2023-10-30 16:15:59 +0000 UTC

That was "pre PiB"!!!

Todzilla

2023-10-30 16:15:41 +0000 UTC

I actually saw that in theatres when it came out. I couldnt even see walking out of the theatre, I was crying so hard

Cassie

2023-10-30 16:13:34 +0000 UTC

Thin Red Line has an all-star cast.

Bill W

2023-10-30 16:12:13 +0000 UTC

Speaking as a Marine Corps veteran, 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi is an amazing film and a perfect pick for Veterans Day.

David Crabtree

2023-10-30 16:12:06 +0000 UTC

To my U.S. Army vet Dad❤ my Army brothers💙💙,to my USMC vet husband❤thanks for being the courageous men you are and to everyone who served..You are the finest example of duty.honor.country💜

Celeste McAllister

2023-10-30 16:11:58 +0000 UTC

Shooter or American Sniper would be good movies for this occasion, especially American Sniper!!!! Real war hero Chris Kyle from Texas!!! Excellent movie

Julie Lazenby

2023-10-30 16:11:02 +0000 UTC

In Flanders Fields. One of my favorites.

Jeffrey Schmidbauer

2023-10-30 16:10:08 +0000 UTC

Oh! An Officer and a Gentleman. Cassie, this is not your typical Veteran’s Day movie as it’s more of a story about one officer and a love interest, but I hope you watch it. You asked about Richard Gere before he became a “silver fox” well… here you go.

Tara

2023-10-30 16:09:52 +0000 UTC

Officer and a Gentleman is a great movie, please make sure you watch it!!! Richard Gere and Debra Winger(80s movie queen)

Julie Lazenby

2023-10-30 16:09:11 +0000 UTC

Yeah some of these for me as a Vet, doesn't make me think of Veterans Day at all. Officer and Gentleman, great film, but not a film for Veterans day. It's more of a love story and none of it is "real" it's very Hollywood take on flight school.

Ryan Towell

2023-10-30 16:07:27 +0000 UTC

"Born on the 4th of July" was Tom Cruise's first really "heavy" role and is excellent. If the 2022 remake is as good as the original 1930 "All Quiet on the Western Front" that would also be worth watching. Arguably the best antiwar movie ever made, although for me that honor goes to Stanley Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" -- which needs to be on the next "war movie" poll!!

Paul Stelter

2023-10-30 16:07:18 +0000 UTC

My vote is 13 hours! Not only is it a hard watch (which I believe military movies should be). It is directly relevant to current affairs!

George Stapp

2023-10-30 16:07:11 +0000 UTC

As someone who's been underfire, 13 Hours is as real as it gets. Captures the real-time chaos and uncertainty of a battle, and in a place where they were truly on their own. Great acting and spectacularly put together.

Above Average Dave

2023-10-30 16:06:59 +0000 UTC

You like you some Tom Cruise. Born on the 4th is good 👍🏾

Louis Chapman

2023-10-30 16:06:14 +0000 UTC

I would also recommend adding in the future or maybe for Pearl Harbor remembrance in December the movie Midway.

Ricardo Alanis

2023-10-30 16:06:10 +0000 UTC

I thought so, I vaguely remembered but wasn’t sure if that was a real memory

Biggman83

2023-10-30 16:05:56 +0000 UTC

She has seen it already. In fact I believe it was one of her earliest reactions when she started the channel.

Jake McNulty

2023-10-30 16:05:33 +0000 UTC

dangit, an oversight, that has been on my list!

Cassie

2023-10-30 16:05:27 +0000 UTC

Agreed. It should be on the Valentine's list. :)

Oisin Clissmann

2023-10-30 16:04:55 +0000 UTC

Megan Leavy I don't think it as a war movie but as a Veterans story... Carly can handle it .... it's a story that I guarantee will make u cry

carbsix

2023-10-30 16:04:41 +0000 UTC

From across the pond, may I suggest the greatest British war film, Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger's The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)? This masterpiece was heavily criticised by the British government at the time for its depiction of a friendship between British and German soldiers, but that is a testament to Powell and Pressburger's humanism - they never made straight propaganda pictures - and the film is an astonishingly beautiful and moving portrait of love, friendship, ageing and loss.

Henry Graham

2023-10-30 16:04:25 +0000 UTC

I have, one of the first on the channel! So special

Cassie

2023-10-30 16:04:21 +0000 UTC

Hi Matt, she already has a reaction to that on the channel. It was one of the first war films she watched.

Oisin Clissmann

2023-10-30 16:04:17 +0000 UTC

We do, yes!

Cole Jennett

2023-10-30 16:04:08 +0000 UTC

She's already seen it. She even has a reaction to it.

Stick Figure Studios

2023-10-30 16:04:07 +0000 UTC

yes we do in canada too!!

Cassie

2023-10-30 16:03:56 +0000 UTC

All quiet seems fitting given that's the origin of the holiday, Hamburger Hill is such an underrated movie, great cast, well acted, and really held up, easy to forget it's 25 years old.

Bubba Fett

2023-10-30 16:03:51 +0000 UTC

I've never seen any of these, so any pick will be a new experience for me too. LOL

Edgar Gonzalez

2023-10-30 16:03:39 +0000 UTC

All Quiet on the Western Front is a phenomenal movie.

Alex Gorell

2023-10-30 16:03:34 +0000 UTC

Lovely poem, Cassie. Thank you for sharing. Some fine films on this poll (several of which I haven't seen yet). I know it probably doesn't have a prayer of winning, but I'm voting for THE THIN RED LINE because it is quite simply one of the greatest films I've ever seen from one of our greatest living directors. I would love to see more Terrence Malick on the channel. This film was my introduction to him and although I didn't quite know what to make of it at first, after watching a couple more movies of his (DAYS OF HEAVEN, THE NEW WORLD), I finally started to "get" his particular style of filmmaking and I think he's a genius: deep, thoughtful, unique and creator of some of the most beautiful images I've ever seen on a screen. My hope Is that one day maybe Cassie will react to my all-time favorite film: his masterpiece THE TREE OF LIFE. In the meantime, curious to see how this one turns out (and really hoping that the Michael Bay movie doesn't win). As always keep up the good work. :-)

Stick Figure Studios

2023-10-30 16:03:19 +0000 UTC

They're all great ones and ones you should watch if you get a chance. This one I gotta go 13 Hours though. Whichever wins, bring tissues.

Nerd Jared

2023-10-30 16:02:52 +0000 UTC

Lovely poem

Neil Varma

2023-10-30 16:02:47 +0000 UTC

Tough poll, it's loaded with classics or some things that will become classics eventually.

Brian's Dog

2023-10-30 16:02:15 +0000 UTC

An officer and a gentleman is a love story.

Bill Hayden

2023-10-30 16:02:14 +0000 UTC

Never heard of any of these films before

Dylan Harris

2023-10-30 16:02:06 +0000 UTC

Voting on the Cruise line here for Born on the Fourth of July even though it is not an easy watch. But I guess no war related movie is an easy watch. I haven't seen quite a few of these, one reason I am not voting for the early leader, All Quiet. I'd rather watch a not so recent film.

Mike LL

2023-10-30 16:01:52 +0000 UTC

It’s also Remembrance Day in the UK. You’re missing some British films from the list! It’s a tragedy not to have 1917 on the list if you’ve not already seen it. Went for They shall not grow old.

Biggman83

2023-10-30 16:01:43 +0000 UTC

Lots of great and honorable choices. The Thin Red Line is the one that I end up thinking about at random moments in my daily life.

Alex Ch

2023-10-30 16:01:32 +0000 UTC

All Quiet on the Western Front was fantastic.

Tim Dottillis

2023-10-30 16:01:29 +0000 UTC

We have Remembrance Day on the 11th here in the U.K. too. Do you wear poppies on your shirts in Canada too, or is that just us in England?

Jake McNulty

2023-10-30 16:01:23 +0000 UTC

Please also include Memphis Belle next time, you're going to like that one

Menno

2023-10-30 16:00:59 +0000 UTC

Have to stand by 13 Hours

Blaze118

2023-10-30 16:00:56 +0000 UTC

THEY SHALL NOT GROW OLD floored me when I first watched it. Excellent film. It was like stepping back in time.

_tragicmike

2023-10-30 16:00:45 +0000 UTC

Courage under fire is a really good one. There’s a scene towards the end of the movie with Denzel that I can’t get through without crying.

Michael Lynch

2023-10-30 16:00:43 +0000 UTC

Voted for They Shall Not Grow Old as it is about World War I, which gave rise to Veterans Day (Nov. 11th, 1918, was the day of the armistice).

Raj K. Dixit

2023-10-30 16:00:07 +0000 UTC

Remembrance Day/Veteran's Day Poll

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It’s on amazon prime

I'd like to have a Debra Winger week. This movie, Urban Cowboy and Terms of Endearment. Possibly would be one of Cassie's favorite movie weeks since she's started her channel.

Can we talk about the real tragic inaccuracy; the real Megan Leavy was a brunette, not a redhead. Ruined the whole movie for me.

I know another coming-of-age story 🥰

John, "13 Hours" is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given.

Mike, there are many who care.

Your quote started "Soldiers are brought up to tell the truth ..." I merely noted that Gen. Patraeus, Tammy Duckworth, and Chairman Mike Rogers who said there was no stand-down order were soldiers.

Boy, some of you really know how to suck the fun out of stuff

When it comes to poll candidate selection, more is not necessarily better. BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY or ALL QUIET are great films and my personal choices.

I'd love to see you do An Officer and a Gentleman sometime. It's a great coming-of-age story and a romance all wrapped up in one. You'd like it. 🙂

Then you haven't watch 13 Hours.

82% audience approval in Rotten Tomatoes for 13 hrs. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/13_hours_the_secret_soldiers_of_benghazi

Great movie !!! George C Scott was phenomenal as Patton.

Really looking forward to 13 Hours. A Must See Film, for Veteran’s Day. This is not your normal Michael Bay film.

Also, Clay, you're repeated the same point several times. We get it. If you have more to add that's constructive, please do. But simply regurgitating the same point endlessly is the best way to put people off.

This is about the movie, and I still don't think it's appropriate for Veterans Day.

So, if they're heroes - and all were U.S. Veterans hired to protect U.S. CIA and State Department personnel - why disparage them so roundly in your comments? I really don't understand that component of your comments.

I think that guy is stuck in a loop. A very sad and angry loop.

We got it the billion other times you have commented the same thing. NOBODY CARES. It's a freaking movie. Enough already.

Jeramie, the film is inaccurate for at least the reason in real life there was no stand down order given. Whatever those heroes on the ground thought, no stand-down order was given.

Blaze, thanks for the reply. Those 4 Americans were heroes. The film is inaccurate for at least the reason in real life there was no stand down order given.

You can tell who the lefties are in these comments. If you don't like the movie, don't watch the reaction. There are plenty of other options. Anyway, I am glad 13 Hours won. I was not expecting that. Michael Bay did a great job telling the story based on the people who were actually there.

No sweat Dave,I've said all I care to say :)

@David,What a wonderful idea. :)

you have a problem with MAGA?

'Tora Tora Tora' 1970 for Pearl Harbor day DECEMBER 7TH 1941,"A date that will live in Infamy",Highly recommended for its historical accuracy and authenticity.

Last request for you and Clay to stop, Celeste. My reasons have already been explained. Stop.

My father is Army 25yr G8 veteran you can discuss this subject with him if you like,I was raised on Army bases,I'm married to a Marine G6 veteran,he served in Iraq and Afghanistan,I know these people they deserve far more respect than any 'professional politician'..especially Hillary..

Celeste and Clay- this discussion is over. Please do not reply anymore to my comment. If you wish to discuss the merits of your facts and arguments, use the Messages feature. You are both demonstrating the exact thing we do not want in this community. Please stop.

Forget about the no stand down order issue,what does matter is lack of accountability on the part of those who should have acted yet failed to do anything to help,no one who has not served in the military should be allowed to run for the WH..it's a question of loyalty and selflessness..

'Patton' 1970⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

I think I really need to watch this one too

Thank you to you as well, its a huge sacrifice to your whole family. Thank you!!

oooh ive wanted to see the covenant, is it out on streaming yet i wonder

"13 Hours" is factually incorrect. TRUTH = there was no stand down order given.

You were there? Tell us how it went down.

You nailed it Carol,Political influences can even be pointed out in a lot of Disney films..

Again, this is not the place to talk politics. I appreciate you and your family's sacrifices and service, but please stop.

Four American heroes died needlessly because of the lack of initiative and incompetent state department leadership,I am a daughter,wife and sister of Veterans who served honorably,Clay,to me you sound like a armchair political advocate..

Put a highly volatile political subject,still fresh in most people's minds on a veterans day poll this is what you get..

"13 Hours" is the TRUE story of the events that transpired on the ground in Benghazi in Sept of 2012, as experienced by the brave Americans that gave everything to fend off a premeditated terrorist attack. This movie is powerful and emotional, and will make for a great watch-along with Cassie.

"13 Hours" -- This film is inaccurate- there was no stand down order given.

An Officer and a Gentleman would definitely be Great. I know She would Love it. But I don’t think it’s the best Veteran’s Day film. In my opinion, it’s more of a February/Valentines Film. Hopefully it will show back up on a Poll then.

They were all veterans, nothing changes that, and I actually know a couple of them personally so let’s stay civil on here.

13 hours also has an 82 % Audience rating. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/13_hours_the_secret_soldiers_of_benghazi

Gettysburg is a long but very good movie. An excellent cast as well

Phoenix, congratulations on so successfully summarizing Dave's comment.

Fantastic poll result! Very much looking forward to Cassie's reaction to the amazing "13 Hours."

Sorry but I only vote for the movie I think is best in the polll. Or at least best film that has a shot at winning.

Again- this is NOT the place to talk politics. Please stop.

Your earlier comment was not clear to me. I have no hate. Good luck to you too. Sincerely.

After how brave she was during October... it's kind of a shame folks don't vote for the movie that Cassie would like most... An Officer & A Gentlemen. Instead of their own preference.

holy cow chill out

and there's definitely no history of people involved in movies like this lying for personal gain, pride, their own agenda, etc. "He was there" means pretty much nothing in stories like this.

Well Kris Paronto says it's accuate, and he was obviously there, and you were obviously not.

I totally would have voted for Memphis Belle had it been up there... always loved that movie.

It’s a pretty weak field and there is no accounting for taste.

But it's winning...'nuff said. And thank you, I was sitting this poll out, but your and the other guy's insane amount of bitching, has made me vote.

13 Hours…box office flop , 51% Rotten Tomatoes and dubious historical accuracy…’nuff said.

@Benjerro - Well said.

Well at least I didn't vote for the least favorite option. Hamburger Hill is at 3%! One of my all-time favorite movie quotes comes from that movie..."It don't mean noth'n, not a thing!"

Michael Bay movies are to cinema the same way as my 4 year old nephew's finger paintings are to classical art.

If only Cassie knew that An Officer and a Gentlemen was the perfect movie for her to watch. She would ball her eyes out. 😭

And it's a true story.

Cassie you and Carly would like An Officer and a Gentleman.

I believe that some on the ground may have thought there was a stand down order, but there was no stand down order.

The lie of a stand down order is anti-American. Propaganda for political reasons is anti-American.

Hillary was asleep on her watch? Obama was too busy counting his money? Those are factual lies the right-wing paints with this movie. The intentional factual incorrectness for political reasons is the insidiousness of this movie and its promotion.

Now that it is mentioned, I would like Cassie to see The Dirty Dozen one day.

@Jacob Antony I don't know if the book was intended to be political but the movie, intentional or not, certainly became one (Trump himself praised it and implored people to go see it).

I mean, the people who make up the "MAGA" crowd had already existed, they just went by different names over the years. In fact, many of them were part of the Tea Party movement before Trump came along.

@Mike Lemon I think 13 Hours is inherently a political movie, intentional or not, so there really was no way to avoid that discussion (unless the comment section was shut off or something).

"Born on the Fourth of July" (a true story) would play well as a double feature with "First Blood" (not true but also covering mental health issues, albeit in a different way).

You mean June 6, right? Although I can see the reference. Dec 7 was Pearl Harbor.

Yes. I did.

"They Shall Not Grow Old" would be a very different, but a very very worthwhile reaction.

Cassie, this is a very good poll you put together. I was torn between The Thin Red Line & Hamburger Hill, which are both very good. I ended up voting for Red Line. You will enjoy Courage Under Fire, it's very good, although I'm not a fan of the ending. I'll explain that to you later.

Really? Thanks for the head's up - I'll have to do a little research then :)