Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi | Full Reaction
Added 2022-04-04 05:01:37 +0000 UTCOk what to say, what to say about this one. A lot of parts looked very cool, the red sand, loved it! I liked a lot of the ideas they played with but I just felt a few of them led to an anticlimactic end. At one point in the middle of the movie, all of a sudden, there was just such a different vibe, it didn't feel like a Star Wars movie anymore. It was so hard seeing Hans' fate in #7 and then I just felt like Luke lost his spunk too much in this.
It was good to see Leia, not enough Chewy, I weirdly liked the Kylo and Rey thing I just wish they spent longer with it once they got there. You know?
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Philip Alan
2023-07-21 21:57:08 +0000 UTCcan this full reaction be re uploaded please
stephen lee
2023-01-30 20:38:35 +0000 UTCWhere is this copy? If it's no longer available to watch or download then it should probably be removed. Don't you think?
London Davis
2022-11-05 11:13:10 +0000 UTCBoy I’ll tell ya, after watching The Rise of Skywalker, I am starting to appreciate this one even more.
Joe M
2022-05-17 01:36:15 +0000 UTCYay, the only good Star Wars movie :)
Alexander Lehmann
2022-04-13 18:28:29 +0000 UTCIt was a terrible movie (in my opinion), but Cassie's reaction was awesome (which is a fact).
Mr Jordan
2022-04-11 23:39:43 +0000 UTCMy father was in line for 12hrs to see the original '77 Star Wars release,everyone in the theater went nuts over it,standing ovation in a movie theater was unheard of at that time,where did Lucas go wrong with the prequels nobody asked for,Jar Jar was thought to be the "Next Chewy"..But these sequels! OMG! At least 30k-40k workers stayed employed during the production.
Celeste McAllister
2022-04-09 16:55:48 +0000 UTCPlease don't! Lol
Celeste McAllister
2022-04-09 16:50:51 +0000 UTCI actually loved everything about the Luke/Rey/Kylo/Snoke story, but I hated just about everything in the Resistance escape storyline. Luke throwing the lightsaber away was shocking and jarring, but as the storyline progressed I started to understand his arc better. I actually think he has an amazing arc in this film. The Kylo and Rey connection is different from anything we've seen in previous films, but I think it's incredibly interesting. The only thing I didn't like about Snoke is that he got killed off too quickly. Though it led to one of the coolest fight scenes in the sequel trilogy and just behind the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight in ROTS. The Resistance storyline was just awkward and kind of unnecessary. Holdo was a horrible character. Star Wars is famous for scenes depicting plans being discussed by the entire leadership. All of a sudden here's this one person who says, "hmmm I think I'll just keep my plan a secret from my fighter pilots." She didn't even acknowledge that there was a plan! The chase was just a silly concept in my opinion too. Kind of like watching the OJ chase. Captain Phasma also felt unsatisfying. I think she was underused in both 7 and 8. And the Leia Poppins scene. I'll admit that the visual looked kind of silly, but she had that premonition of warning before the bridge was hit so was able to put herself in a Jedi survival state. We also know that you can manipulate objects with the force, even yourself so it is totally believable she was able to save herself in that moment. Again, the visual just looked really silly and terrible. So I always put this movie at around a 5 or 6. I think episode 9 could have made it better, but I'll save my criticisms for that one.
Marty McGee
2022-04-09 05:18:19 +0000 UTC*singing Frozen's famed song*
Damon
2022-04-08 13:03:46 +0000 UTCTyler, no confusing the narrative with facts!
Shaun Ganyo
2022-04-08 02:24:17 +0000 UTCCriticisms he was clear he regretted mentioning because he does not like people believing he didn't think the film was good, FWIW.
Tyler Foster
2022-04-07 19:44:11 +0000 UTCYep that's them.
Celeste McAllister
2022-04-07 16:04:53 +0000 UTCIs this the same sunk franchise that has the Mandalorian and Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi? Yea, looks like it's done!
Shaun Ganyo
2022-04-07 03:16:38 +0000 UTCThe Prequel trilogy is so much worse. The franchise was already sunk by the man that created it.
granny_goodness
2022-04-07 01:04:31 +0000 UTCI love it.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-06 20:34:14 +0000 UTCOnly Disney could sink a long standing franchise with a mediocre trilogy.
Celeste McAllister
2022-04-06 17:21:45 +0000 UTC@ Tara.... have you read or seen Mark Hamill's criticisms about The Last Jedi? 😬
Robin Craft
2022-04-06 13:20:23 +0000 UTCIt was a pretty good video and inline with what most people ended up feeling about this movie. You actually only cursed once LOL but it's okay because it was about Admiral Ackbar LOL Also people's points of view definitely change after seeing The Rise of Skywalker.
Todzilla
2022-04-06 02:54:38 +0000 UTCI had to smile seeing Cassie looking for the love stories in the movie. But… ughh, it just reminded me of how much I hate what they did to such a beloved character. Am I asking too much to have more of the original cast that I love so much in this movie? I wanted more of C3PO arguing with R2. I wanted more Luke. I wanted to see him as the elder Jedi Master who mentors Rey ala Obi Wan and Luke from A New Hope. I wanted… I wanted… I need to watch A New Hope right now to get this bad taste out of my mouth and remember the Luke Skywalker that I love and not this cynical character that they turned him into. Shame on them!
Tara
2022-04-06 01:30:36 +0000 UTCI stand firmly behind everything I've said about this movie. So by all means. Enjoy my initial impression. I have other videos if you need elaboration on my views on anything.
KTVindicare
2022-04-06 00:49:29 +0000 UTCI'm no Cassie, LOL, but I just started watching your YouTube video. I'll be back after with my thoughts.
Todzilla
2022-04-06 00:44:37 +0000 UTCNo. Cassie isn't like you people.
Shaun Ganyo
2022-04-05 22:13:16 +0000 UTCYou need to learn the difference between "threw" - to throw an object, and "through", And yes, Disney was interjecting its political opinions into this film, as they've been doing ever since and are now paying a huge price for.
Sean Novack
2022-04-05 17:32:07 +0000 UTCCassie if you are still reading and are interested. Here is my "response" video to TLJ. I made this video the next day after seeing TLJ in theaters. You don't gotta respond or anything I just want to put this out there if you want to see what someone else thought right after they first saw this movie. I promise it's not toxic, or curse laden or anything like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvaTVPqyMnE
KTVindicare
2022-04-05 16:51:21 +0000 UTCShe's going to be like the rest of us by the end. Where she is now there is zero chance Rise of Skywalker pays off all of the concerns and complaints she has. She'll come back to the rest of these movies and understand why they are so hated. It's guaranteed at this point.
KTVindicare
2022-04-05 16:40:20 +0000 UTCThe more you ask questions about this movie Cassie the worse it gets.
KTVindicare
2022-04-05 16:38:40 +0000 UTCThis one honestly felt like the director went online, read every fan theory out there and decided to do the exact opposite of it.
Yaisu
2022-04-05 14:04:16 +0000 UTC"Can I point out that the entire drama about them being trapped on the cruiser doesn't make sense because they could escape at any time." THAT IS HOLDO'S EXACT PLAN. They're just trying to get close enough to Crait.
Patrick Flanagan
2022-04-05 11:36:32 +0000 UTCI liked it, some did not but hey they ain't me are they. The last one will tie up the loose ends that you want to know/asked/question. Always liked the Star Wars Movies but I am more of a Star Trek Fan and Battle Star Galactic - That a good choice of a TV show and try Stargate the movie which started 3 tv shows spin offs
JarHead0351
2022-04-05 07:23:37 +0000 UTCI watched this movie when it came out in the theaters. And felt conflicted about it at the time. But now that I've seen it again, I liked it. It was a different time in the Star Wars timeline and times change and it was a darker movie than the others. It was long because they had to tell a story. The other movies were lighter, but #3 was darker as well.
Eddie Korstanje
2022-04-05 04:39:41 +0000 UTCHahah I'm still not gonna watch this a second time. But cool for the people that can
E
2022-04-05 02:34:11 +0000 UTCI don't know if you knew this but Carrie Fishers daughter Billie Lourd plays the blonde resistance fighter that helps Poe.
Patrick Toscano
2022-04-05 02:09:07 +0000 UTCKinda love this transgressive, wild Star Wars movie, but I pretty much love anything Rian Johnson does, tbh. This and the Mandalorian are my favorite post-Lucas SW (well, Rogue One is pretty cool, too). Mostly the fact that it's a difficult, emotionally divisive movie when that's the opposite of what most tent-pole movies try to be is what gives me a soft spot for it.
Alex Villarreal
2022-04-05 01:22:26 +0000 UTCOK Cassie, fine, I'll watch this a second time, but only for you.
Carol_White
2022-04-05 00:02:40 +0000 UTCFinally, after 5 years of endless searching, I’ve found a place online to complain about The Last Jedi.
Will C
2022-04-04 23:42:24 +0000 UTCWhy the hell would someone give you 4 billion dollars??
Shaun Ganyo
2022-04-04 23:41:18 +0000 UTCYeah that's why I was saying im really waiting to comment after Cassie sees the last one. It's hard to comment without her seeing all of them.
Todzilla
2022-04-04 23:24:33 +0000 UTCCan’t rely on gravity or any natural stuff occurring in any Star Wars movies. Sound, explosions would look different, lasers, turning in space without side thrusters so bombs being dropped in space is another fantasy thing to roll with. I like this movie enough but same with all 3 fail to hold up as a trilogy.
Sean Stuart
2022-04-04 22:57:15 +0000 UTCOne thing I am disappointed with about this comment section, and not only about this movie, but in general movie discussion in these comments, are all the negative comments about The Rise of Skywalker. Could we save specific comments about a movie Cassie has yet to see for after she has actually seen it? I know it might be important for you to express your general impression about a movie, but I don't like coloring her expectations. She will find it hard not to be influenced in her opinion about a film she has never seen after hearing so many derogatory statements about it. Could we deliberately be more vague about movies she hasn't seen, please?
MikeLL
2022-04-04 21:01:26 +0000 UTCThis is a good example of a reaction being better than the movie. I laughed at the beginning when Cassie, always looking for a good love story, wondered if BB8 could be in love with R2. The opening scenes where the bombers are getting destroyed by “dropping” bombs in space on the Dreadnaught are ludicrous, as gravity wouldn't apply like that in space. These bombs exiting the bombers would just float away in any direction. They really don't understand physics in this movie. Also the many point blank space battles where the ships have to get as close a s possible to each other is not how real space battles would really go. My biggest disappointment with this sequel trilogy is how the struggle and victory of the OT is treated like it never really happened. It has been mentioned the Canto Bight sequence really looks like a Harry Potter movie with the racing animals running through the casino. And even later Cassie mentioned what she thought was a Harry Potter mirror, so even she was reminded of Harry Potter by this movie. A message I picked up on was when Kylo Ren told Rey to “Let the past die, Kill it if you have to” and later he told her “ it's time to let old things die -let it all die”. I'm not sure if that message from Johnson's screenplay was directed to the audience as well, but I didn't miss that message as being an echo of one being expressed currently in our society. I thought the key line of the movie was when Luke tells Rey “This is not going to go the way you think.” The line was featured in one of the movie's trailers. That line I am sure was directed squarely at the audience. Must be part of that “Johnson is subverting our expectations” and is “taking this Star Wars movie in a new direction” that I have heard so much about in these comments and elsewhere. What I haven't heard is an articulate explanation of why “subverting your expectations” is a good thing, about why it is good storytelling, I have just heard here and elsewhere about how this film is “brilliant” and “wonderful” or “masterful” and not about how exactly it is all these things. I think Rian Johnson is a gifted filmmaker and that Looper is a great science fiction movie and Knives Out might be the best murder mystery movie I have ever seen. But other than the one scene when Kylo killing Snoke and then he and Rey face off back to back against the Red Guard, which gave me such a thrill when I first saw it, easily the most thrilling moment I had in the theater that year, and the wonderful John Williams score, I can't in all honesty find much else I like about this movie.
MikeLL
2022-04-04 20:50:25 +0000 UTCGreat reaction again, Cassie. I know, it was a tad bit long and bits didn't feel right. What is intriguing to me is that we are continuing in the line of the prequels. As they showed us, Good and Evil are not static forces in the universe. Jedi, even the masters, are not unassailable heroes and forces for good. Luke is not perfect, nor is Yoda or anyone else. Kylo is also not perfectly evil, nor was Vader. Rey above all else needs to understand this - she wont be perfect either - and its okay. The Jedi were done, and the Sith are corrupt - if balance is to be restored, something else needs to rise.
Damon Corrigan
2022-04-04 19:17:43 +0000 UTCActually, that characterization for Luke owes a lot to Lucas, who initially described Luke as being a Colonel Kurtz type, though *why* Luke was that way evolved. I'm not sure what Lucas's reason for Luke going into exile was, but I think at that point it may have been due to him reassessing the Jedi due to their history as well as his own lineage.
Drew
2022-04-04 19:01:52 +0000 UTCKathleen Kennedy pays a visit to Doctor Strange over in the Disney Marvel division. “Steven, do you think you can conjure up another “Memory Erase” spell?
Prof. Writhms
2022-04-04 18:42:44 +0000 UTCI agree with the Luke portrayal in this movie. Johnson made Luke into a whiny little b*tch, and it was just really sad and annoying to watch. It was a complete 180 from his character in 4, 5, and 6. In those films, he was 100% committed to defeating the Empire, turning Anakin good, and being "all in" with the Rebels. And now just because he failed with Ben, we're supposed to accept that somehow turned him into an apathetic, crotchety old man who's given up? Yoda and Obi Wan had failures as Jedis also and they also go into exile, but yet, they are still amenable to training a young Luke and passionate about defeating evil. They don't throw a fit like Old Luke. It starts right from the beginning when he throws the lightsaber over his shoulder like a 3 year old and walking away. Anyway, it is clear this is a very divisive movie and we could argue about it until the cow’s come home.
Aaron Mann
2022-04-04 18:41:46 +0000 UTCThey didn't really have a whole plan, they sort of winged it, but contrary to what's been said they *did* borrow from George Lucas's treatments. Luke in a dark place in exile being tracked down by a young girl for training is from Lucas's initial treatments, although he would've had it happen earlier in VII rather than VIII.
Drew
2022-04-04 17:52:11 +0000 UTCdo you think Jj was like ok this is the story i gave planned out and the new guy was just like ok but i’m going to do this, he must have had a reason for putting like on the island? has he said what it was?
Cassie
2022-04-04 17:33:39 +0000 UTCNo political or agenda thoughts. Lets just push that to the side. No need to make that stuff a everywhere thing, or in a fun area like here. 4 threw 6, or 7 threw 9? Its not even close! Originals nailed it, and the others missed by a mile. Its just a movie, not a political anything, except the politics of good vs evil. And the movie is either good or bad. This happened to be bad. So be it.
Michael J
2022-04-04 16:45:43 +0000 UTCThis movie triggers me. Can I point out that the entire drama about them being trapped on the cruiser doesn't make sense because they could escape at any time. They have 2 ships with them and those ships could leave and not stay and die, they could evacuate people to those ships, they leave on a day trip to a gambling planet, why not just ferry people off the crusier if they can come and go as they please? I can't say more, I feel the triggers building.
William
2022-04-04 16:44:08 +0000 UTCThis part of it. 7 threw 9. But Harry Potter was good lol. Harry Potter is the only movie series that told a (all in one) story that was that long. Yet was that good... Its more like one super long movie, it fits so well. Where Star Wars was the original 3. Then the others. Thats just how its seen.
Michael J
2022-04-04 16:27:03 +0000 UTCMy issue with he Yoda part is the "laws of the Star Wars universe" changed with this scene. This means the whole time all the Jedi that became force ghosts could have helped Luke this whole time. Why didn't Ghost Yoda just send a lighting bolt straight at the Emperors head? That scene basically made all the force ghosts look like jerks for never helping Luke out. I mean Obi-Wan as a ghost could have blown up the reactor of both Death Stars. LOL
Todzilla
2022-04-04 16:24:41 +0000 UTCBig Revelation watching Cassie's Reaction to this movie --- this Trilogy is VERY Harry Potter. That's what it is. They really leaned into Space Wizards part of this story and I think maybe THAT is what feels so different for some people - because the Original Trilogy is like more World War II and Excalibur and the Prequel Trilogy is like Lord of the Rings and Beverly Hills 90210. And this trilogy is Harry Potter and something else, I'm not sure.
Jason Dolan
2022-04-04 15:57:32 +0000 UTCOddly the Yoda part was the only part I fully understood vs the movies direction. He's basically saying, "did you read them?" Luke is like "well not really." That the force is in you or it is not. Its not like Yoda showed him the books in their first meeting. Yoda talks deep & logic but non direct. He basically also says, "nothing she doesn't already have." Which is true, to a point that she already has it. But now needs guidance and training and more control and strength. And he's Yoda, so he's going to poke at him some to. And he also mentions, that the burden is what the Master carries. Kind of saying "so train her anyways." My take at least. As far as the movie? Ugh? I never was sure what it was trying to pull. Why not have him train her more on the island. The chase and ship stuff seemed odd. And loooooooooooong! End was OK, made sense. That much power would kill a Jedi. But still, not a great movie. But thats me. I love the series to. But everyone is aloud a opinion so? And yea the Jokes are cringy as heck in these. But think back. They were not in 4,5 and 6. Han's lines were more epic! As was Yoda being goofy before telling Luke who he was. "The boy has no patients, I can not train him." Han had his "Laugh it up fuzzball line." And the epic "boring conversation anyways,, Luke were going to have company." The lines were goofy or serious, but never cheesy in the ordinal 3. They were everywhere, and worked! Not so much in 1,2, 3, 7, 8, and 9. Ordinals destroy the others.
Michael J
2022-04-04 15:47:35 +0000 UTCRight? I don’t think there’s a single subject that brings the nasty out of movie fans more than The Last Jedi. Everyone is so absolutely certain that they’re right.
Brian Harris
2022-04-04 15:37:17 +0000 UTCThe greatest use of the Force ever! Imagine using your power to avoid violence and save lives. This film rules!
BD Williams
2022-04-04 15:25:57 +0000 UTCIt's nice to see everyone having fun talking movies. Lol.
nick bell
2022-04-04 14:43:43 +0000 UTC✌️
DerekJ
2022-04-04 14:39:01 +0000 UTCOh, one thing you need to keep an eye out for in the next one is John Williams' one and only onscreen appearance.
Texas Anla'Shok
2022-04-04 14:36:09 +0000 UTCYeah, this will be the last reaction for me. It's really a shame that a film about managing expectation and recovering from failure is met with such myopic takes. I know when I don't fit in at the party. I'm sure you all are going to love the next one, they made it just for you.
aarswft
2022-04-04 14:29:45 +0000 UTC"Even new fans like her were robbed of the reunion of the classic heroes: Han, Luke and Leia." This wasn't their trilogy. The fact they were there at all was a gift. "Book of Boba Fett help repair Luke's character" The show literally sets up the fall of Luke Skywalker. It's a direct lead in to the destruction of the temple.
aarswft
2022-04-04 14:25:07 +0000 UTCThese comments are gonna be the worst. Have fun everyone.
djKENTO
2022-04-04 14:23:02 +0000 UTCThe discourse that I hate is that people claim they never got to see a powerful Luke. The man displayed the most powerful use of the force we've ever seen in a movie with that last trick. Kylo even mentions that bridging two minds would kill a normal Jedi. Luke appeared to hundreds of people on that planet.
aarswft
2022-04-04 14:15:26 +0000 UTCI haven't watched this reaction (will wait until the YT edit), however by Cassie's description, I feel somewhat relieved. I still can't go "full hardcore mode" yet, because she really needs to see the last one. There is too much to go into why this film is not good from a fans perspective, but from a factual writing and directing perspective. If you want to know more on what I mean, see the youtuber "MauLer" and his 3 part video series "A Critique of Star Wars: The Last Jedi". For instance people will say "Rian Johnson just gave you a different movie than what you expected, and that's why it's a great film". That's not actually true. If a writer wanted Luke to be an old, hopeless hermit, a complete 180 from his original character which we left off in 1983, than that's TOTALLY OK. However it needs to be explained. One vision of him thinking Ben is bad and almost killing him doesn't count. There are obviously other factual events that show this film being a failure. Did it make money? Yes, because people had to go see it before they judged it, that money was already spent. Solo suffered from that. Fans no longer trusted Disney and no one was asking for a Han backstory. The Rise of Skywalker was the last of the Disney Star Wars films. Even JJ Abrams admitted they had no plan between films. I'm not even a filmmaker and I know with a series like Star Wars, you need a plan. But back to Cassie, I'm glad (from her written statement above) wasn't fond of Luke character. About a week ago I watched her reaction to Return of the Jedi. During the final battle of the Emperor and Vader against Luke, Cassie repeatedly said "there is no way Luke will turn to the darkside". She said it was a very happy ending. This got me thinking about The Last Jedi, how would she react? Even new fans like her were robbed of the reunion of the classic heroes: Han, Luke and Leia. Those classic heroes were systematically destroyed by the new writers and directors. Cassie in her reactions even called those characters "her friends", and she wanted to see "what has happened to them". Well Cassie, you are in the same boat most of us are. We never got to see that reunion and with very little explanation, everything that happened at the end of Return of the Jedi was completely turned around in these films with almost no explanation. No, just putting it on screen that Han is a dead beat dad and Luke is a failed Jedi with little to know explanation isn't good writing or story telling. But there is SOME hope Cassie, Jon Favreau is "trying" to repair some of the damage done to these original characters. Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett help repair Luke's character and I hope Cassie see's those someday soon.
Todzilla
2022-04-04 14:12:04 +0000 UTCSomeone is likely to strongly disagree with this.
Ike
2022-04-04 13:59:42 +0000 UTCyea it's a bad movie and an awful sequel trilogy lol
MetallicOpeth
2022-04-04 13:59:04 +0000 UTCWow. Hot take.
Mark M
2022-04-04 12:38:07 +0000 UTCThe little birds on the island are called Porgs. They were put in out of necessity since the island was just overrun with Puffins. It was too much effort to shop them all out so they just altered them.
aarswft
2022-04-04 12:16:04 +0000 UTCYou feel better now, champ? I'm sure this is the first time you've been able to express this since the film came out.
aarswft
2022-04-04 11:50:44 +0000 UTCThis is the correct response.
aarswft
2022-04-04 11:48:30 +0000 UTCI have not watched this movie since it was in theaters. After TFA, I was excited to see what came next. After I saw this the first time, I left the theater trying to figure out what I was feeling (generally not a good thing when it came to SW for me). I actually had to go and see it a second time and when I left the theater, I realized that I did not care what happened next. This movie destroyed the trilogy. Johnson single handedly destroyed the most beloved character of the SW franchise and Kathleen Kennedy allowed it to happen. This move is fine if you pull it out of this trilogy, shove in alternate characters and make it a stand alone film. Johnson completely ignored everything that happened in the first film, made an abrupt left turn and went off and did his own thing. When you are the anchor point of the trilogy, you have to answer some of the questions set up in the first film. Ask some of your own and ultimately set things up for the final climactic end. Johnson put this together like it was the last movie and left nowhere for the storyline to go. The characters in this film story arc wise are in the same place at the end of this film as they are at the beginning. Rey is still an untrained Rey, Kylo continues to just throw tantrums, Luke's character is completely destroyed. Turned Poe into a buffoon. Don't get me started on Leia Poppins. The chemistry that Rey and Fin had in TFA is completely brushed aside almost like Johnson didn't want the white chick of the movie paired up with the black man so he created the other non white character to team him up with and forced this connection on us between Rey and Kylo whom she absolutely hated and it made no sense whatsoever. I could go on and on but I won't. Is the next movie perfect? no, but with what JJ was left to work with after this complete disaster He did what he could to right the ship and try to get it back on course considering he was having to fight Disney/Kennedy as well just to tell a good story.
James Young
2022-04-04 11:22:30 +0000 UTC(my star wars opinion here)
Rogue_ML
2022-04-04 11:20:47 +0000 UTCI am probably an older follower/Patreon so my SW fandom goes back to waiting in line outside the twin cinema (we didn't have multi-plexs back then) to see the first one for hours several times. I am a HUGE SW fan so I am far more accepting, forgiving of all the films than many may be. I have enjoyed all of the films, loved 3 or 4 of them.
Bryan Harris
2022-04-04 11:04:18 +0000 UTCThe last great Star Wars movie was Empire. Don't hate...you know it's true deep down.
nick bell
2022-04-04 10:41:08 +0000 UTCRISE OF SKYWALKER definitely.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 10:38:19 +0000 UTCAlso, I'm not sure I agree with those who have said these movies weren't written by Star Wars fans. Both Abrams and Johnson are huge SW fans. I do think, though, that LAST JEDI wasn't written *for* fans (at least not exclusively). Unlike the much lazier and unimaginative JJ entries, there is very little fan service in TLJ and I think that's a big part of why it's so reviled.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 10:36:47 +0000 UTCLove it or hate it, I thought this movie definitely had something to say.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 10:22:33 +0000 UTCI think this was this and Rise of Skywalker were the worst Star Wars films.
Mark M
2022-04-04 10:20:12 +0000 UTCTo be fair, Johnson was limited in what he could do with Luke by the corner that JJ painted him into. Because he lacks the confidence of a proper storyteller, JJ was the one who turned Luke into a hermit hiding away on an island while evil conquered the Galaxy. Rian did the best I think anyone could do with that set-up. As he himself put it: "[Luke's] taken himself out of the fight, he's sitting on that island in exile. I know the Luke I grew up with is not a coward, he's not sitting out there hiding, so I had to come up with a reason he was there that was active and positive, and something I could genuinely believe I could think in his shoes... And the thing that came to me that seemed to make sense to me is this notion that he sees this hero worship of him and of the Jedi that is detrimental to the galaxy. The universe has put its faith in its false god of the Jedi and they need to forget the religion so they can get back to god, that light can rise from a worthier source. And because he's the last Jedi and a symbol of that, it then becomes this self-sacrifice he has to do to take himself out of it when he knows his friends are dying, when he knows the thing he'd like to do is get back in the fight. He's taken the weight of the world on his shoulders by taking himself out of the equation so that the Jedi can die out. The end of the movie is him embracing the part of the past that the present needs, which right now is the legend of Luke Skywalker, they need something to believe in, they need that action figure of Luke Skywalker to grab on to, that inspiration to stare up at the stars and believe that you can be a hero."
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:50:27 +0000 UTCHoldo didn't completely trust Poe. She thought his reckless, gung-ho toxically masculine attitude and behavior was a liability. That's why she points out that his decisions got tons of resistance fighters killed and that Leia's last acting order was to demote him. Granted, her decision not to tell him the plan was maybe not the wisest move given what eventually happened, but she did have a reason for it. It's not necessarily bad writing when a character doesn't make perfect choices (that's just part of being a fallible human being). It's bad writing when characters make unmotivated choices. Also, I have never understood the "Mary Poppins" criticism. Never.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:41:23 +0000 UTCCan always count on a great reaction from you no matter the movie! Also can't wait for the merch! 😁👕
Nismo
2022-04-04 09:35:05 +0000 UTCPersonally, I thought this was the best of the sequels (indeed, I think it's the best Star Wars movie since EMPIRE; yes, even better than RETURN OF THE JEDI) and RISE OF SKYWALKER is maybe the worst Star Wars movie ever.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:20:20 +0000 UTCAnd to answer your question: yes, Luke is dead. You might've missed it but Rey had a line to Leia where she says she could tell Luke was gone, but at the moment of his leaving she felt peace and purpose (and Leia said she felt it too). So, Luke is gone... but then, nobody's ever really gone, are they? :-)
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:18:33 +0000 UTCI agree about Luke's arc and Johnson's returning the Force to an entity that belongs to everyone and not just a privileged few. Peopl say this film ignored the previous one, but it didn't. It just developed things in a direction people weren't expecting. RISE OF SKYWALKER truly ignored its predecessor and it consequently became a strong contender for the worst Star Wars movie ever.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:14:27 +0000 UTCAnd here we are. The one we've all been waiting for and dreading in equal measure, probably the most divisive Star Wars movie ever (with folks who passionately adore it and passionately despise it), wondering whether you were going to agree with the lovers or the haters. Well, regardless of what you think of it, you can lump me in with those who love it. I thought it was a smart, ambitious, provocative and emotional Star Wars adventure. It built on the foundation of the previous one but still contained some unexpected surprises. I consider it not only the best of the new movies, but the best Star Wars movie since EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (yes, even better than RETURN OF THE JEDI). I left this theater -- much like I did after FORCE AWAKENS -- excited and hopeful fur the next installment... that is, until it was crushed two years later by what I think is arguably the worst Star Wars movie ever made (but we'll get there soon enough).
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 09:08:37 +0000 UTCI'm with Cassie on the Luke question. Generally I like this film (it's the next one that lets the trilogy down)... but I feel Luke was cheated out of his role as wise mentor; or rather we, the audience, were cheated out of the pleasure of seeing him in that role.
Henry Fitzgerald
2022-04-04 08:42:33 +0000 UTCI personally love Luke’s arc. For me, it’s one of the few realistic arcs in the entire series. He’s not going to stay the optimistic farmboy we met in Episode IV. He’s watched friends die, watched his father die without reaping the benefits of his redemption. He’s watched his religion be degraded at the hands of his nephew and his star pupil, and had to question everything he taught. What could he have done differently? Why wasn’t it enough? These questions would make anyone doubt everything they knew. I agree that a lot of the dialogue was corny. The intangible “off” thing that you were sensing occasionally is a tone issue. There were times that this movie played like a Star Wars parody, especially on Canto Bight. But as has been pointed out, that was kind of the point. Rian Johnson was trying to subvert forty years of lore, and he was killing a lot of sacred cows. Some of it worked and some didn’t. But I especially like the notion that the Force does not belong to the Jedi, it belongs to everyone. I don’t know if you noticed (a lot of people didn’t when this first came out) but the little boy sweeping at the end summoned the broom without touching it. He’s a nobody from nowhere, just like Rey, and the Force belongs to him too. Or at least it did. Let’s just say that Episode IX is a big reversal of a lot of the stuff that was good about VIII.
Brian Harris
2022-04-04 08:29:56 +0000 UTCYeah, that sucks about Luke. He should have showed up and destroyed a bunch of bad guys using Jedi shit, then ultimately sacrifice himself to save the universe like Obi-Wan did. Instead they used him as just some weird phantom diversion.
Johnny
2022-04-04 08:22:44 +0000 UTCThis one I find very uneven. It seems like it's trying to do too many things at once. The humor was also hit-and-miss, starting with Poe trolling General Hux, which I really enjoyed, but then we also had BB-8 and the circuits which was downright cartoonish. I actually enjoyed grumpy old man Luke. Mostly. And I REALLY enjoyed Yoda's appearance. A lot of people have said Rian was trying to do a completely different kind of Star Wars, but just the year before they had made a very different Star Wars movie and done it successfully, Rogue One. At the end of the day, I will never consider this one of my favorite movies, but there are parts of it that I am glad I saw. And now after all that's been said of this movie, everyone can see it's better than bacon.
Texas Anla'Shok
2022-04-04 08:01:09 +0000 UTCForgot how weird this movie was. Cant decide if its the direction or the writing. probably both. Either way it just feels soooo off. Can someone finally explain to me why Holdo didn't just tell Po the plan? Could have avoided the chance of mutiny. 2 amazing actors playing roles so beneath them. Mary Poppins was way worse than I remember. Just odd lines all over the place, ppl overacting and others underacting. Only 2nd time watching it and at this point it's just become a comedy.
Sahitya
2022-04-04 08:00:37 +0000 UTCThat's my thought exactly. You felt the weirdness of the Casino scenes. (we all did). And the movie LOOKED great! I didn't hate this movie. But it for sure wasn't great. I enjoyed The Force Awakens! You reacted properly for this one. Onto the next!
Philip Alan
2022-04-04 07:41:17 +0000 UTCif i spent 4 billion dollars to buy the rights to a story to make a new trilogy of movies you better be DAMN sure im going to figure out what that story is going to be before even a single frame is filmed. the idiots at disney didnt see it that way. they didnt purchase the rights to a story, they purchased the rights to a propaganda platform. that last fight really tells it all. they go out in these ships that barely even fly....dont fire a single shot...get totally obliterated and accomplish literally nothing. you see you thought they were going out to take out some of those stupid gorilla at-ats but then the genius director SubVerTeD YouR ExPEctatIOns and they actually just went out there to kill themselves. back in empire strikes back they had substandard gear but at least they actually ya know...DID something...
rubberkidney
2022-04-04 07:34:45 +0000 UTCThe Phantom Menace - oh no. Revenge of the Sith - dang it. A New Hope - thank goodness. Return of the Jedi - finally. The Force Awakens - let’s go. The Last Jedi - what? I appreciated your reaction to this one - any Star Wars material really. Lots of public opinions on this one, but at the end of the day it’s just a movie. Some reactors tiptoe their way through final thoughts and commentary, but your candidness is what makes this worthwhile.
Ike
2022-04-04 07:27:37 +0000 UTC"How is she doing this?". The Force of course.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 06:53:24 +0000 UTCI experienced the same feelings when I saw it in the theater. And the Kylo/Rey thing - yip. Can’t wait to see how you feel about the next one.
Rose
2022-04-04 06:46:47 +0000 UTCeven Mark Hamel didnt like this movie , it went against everything Luke Skywalker stood for , so you are right Cassie , what happened ? Kathlene Kennedy happened , and ruined Star Wars , fortunately ep 9 is really good thanks to JJ Abrams
zynjams
2022-04-04 06:46:46 +0000 UTCLuke's arc is one of my favorite things about this movie in particular and about the sequel trilogy in general.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 06:00:01 +0000 UTCThe scheduling was definitely responsible for many of these film's issues (with a new saga film coming out every two years, the next one had to begin pre-production before the preceding one was even finished). You can thank Disney CEO Bob Iger for that as he insisted on the "every other year" plan. Thanks, Bob.
Stick Figure Studios
2022-04-04 05:58:27 +0000 UTCThis movie just didn’t have any flow to it. I remember going to watch it in theaters and leaving incredibly confused and dissatisfied. I think the writers really did Luke dirty and the comedy stuff, like the milk thing, was just so random. Thanks for giving this movie a shot.
Josh Phillips
2022-04-04 05:50:09 +0000 UTCHere’s the thing about The Last Jedi, it challenges what the viewer thinks a Star Wars movie should be. The story basically retracted Skywalker’s personal naïveté throughout the saga that there was “good in everyone.” His conclusion is that hope can endure but evil itself cannot be defeated (just look around the real world). His bitterness about this is justified. He was asked by Obi-Wan, and by Yoda to remain undefeated and carry the weight of the galaxy’s salvation on his shoulders. He ultimately succeeded but only temporarily. Imagine the anger and disappointment of carrying such a burden only for it to achieve little. He also grapples with the repercussions of the Dark Side in Ben and that he may not be able to save him from himself. The binaries of good and evil are no longer sufficient in explaining morality. Ultimately it’s a good character arc for Skywalker. Is it a flawed movie? Oh absolutely. But it’s not as bad as people make it out to be. Just my two cents.
Wes Stewart
2022-04-04 05:37:00 +0000 UTCWell this should be fun
Sahitya
2022-04-04 05:31:39 +0000 UTCBottom line: stupid story.
Eric Cable
2022-04-04 05:27:41 +0000 UTCEveryone has their opinion of what went wrong (if anything) with Disney Star Wars, but, as a long time cinephile with actual filmmaking experience, my opinion is better than theirs. 😉 And that opinion is this: It's not the change of filmmakers, or the lack of a "plan" - the original trilogy began with no plan and all had different directors, and even the prequels weren't as charted out as Lucas would admit. Nor is it a lack of talent or vision - indeed the new films are more thematically ambitious than the series has ever been. And it's certainly not "wokeness" or any other culture war bs. It's the scheduling. The earlier trilogies were released with 3 years between movies. And - crucially - the first of those years was spent pretty much doing nothing. Everybody went their separate ways while Lucas brainstormed story ideas for the next installment. So there was a LOT of development time spent polishing the script before serious production finally started, and perhaps more importantly, everybody had a chance to "unplug" before coming back to the next film with fresh eyes and ears. There isn't an artist in any medium that doesn't understand the importance of that. The new movies were put on a Marvel-style conveyor belt, with only 2 years between main trilogy installments, plus off-year "bonus" movies, so the producers had to keep up with a different story every single year, deep in the weeds the whole time, with no opportunity to step back and get perspective on what they were doing. Marvel can get away with that because Marvel movies are character-based - just throw them into an interesting situation and improvise what happens, it doesn't really matter what the story is. But Star Wars is opera. Like Lord of the Rings (I've made that comparison before). The story is key, and it has to flow and resolve satisfactorily, and you can't rush that. And, in my view, the flaws in the films reflect that. They aren't fundamental. They're script issues. Bits of plot logic that don't quite add up, or a thematic conclusion that hasn't been properly supported. And they get progessively worse with each film, each a little messier than the last, like the proverbial spinning plates gradually wobbling out of control - until the whole stack comes crashing down in the disaster that is The Rise of Skywalker. The Last Jedi is unquestionably a janky film. When it works, it works really well - it has some of my favorite moments in the saga. When it doesn't... it's a head-scratcher. But what's most frustrating to me is that all of its issues are fairly easy to solve. Shuffle this around here, change that motivation there, and boom, things play much better. And I'm not claiming to be smarter than the filmmakers - my whole thing is that, given time and space to step back and think about it, I have no doubt Ryan Johnson would have come up with the same solutions or better ones. He's a fantastic filmmaker, and I love what he's trying to say in this movie, and I wish I could see a version of The Last Jedi that says it.
Robin T
2022-04-04 05:19:41 +0000 UTC100% agree with all of your opinions. Some cool, but half baked ideas. Some weird tensions that felt artificial, like with Laura Dern's character. Mostly it just frustrates me that Disney had no clear direction for the newest trilogy, and tried to play it as safe as possible and we ended up with a bland set of movies with nothing to say. It also frustrates me that there is such a large number of people who seem to hate this movie because of characters like Rose, who I thought was perfectly fine, and had a character arc that actually kinda landed.
Robert Haynes
2022-04-04 05:09:02 +0000 UTCExactly. As I mentioned (and sure I’m not alone), this one was kinda meh. But you’ll like the last one for sure :-)
Andrew
2022-04-04 05:08:47 +0000 UTCThis was the worst of the sequels, IMO. Agree with your criticisms. It was also about half an hour too long. I liked Rise of Skywalker more than a lot of people here - It's certainly better than TLJ, that's for sure.
Johnny
2022-04-04 05:07:20 +0000 UTC
