Cassie Tremblay : Batman (1989)

FYI, “Gotham” is a nickname for NYC (New York City). In the Dark Knight Trilogy they even reference parts of NYC when talking about parts of Gotham, like the Narrows. The Verrazano Bridge spans “The Narrows”, which is a small strait of water separating Brooklyn and Staten Island. So while it’s an adaptation of it, Gotham is supposed to represent New York City or the Tri State Area. The comics and some film adaptations say they put the city in North East New Jersey (Jersey City/Bayonne), they also use landmarks such as “Gotham Square Garden”, so say what they will, it’s definitely a dark adaptation of NYC.

Craig Carriere

2025-02-12 04:25:10 +0000 UTC

I don't mind you guys being so harsh on it, even tho i don't think it's objectively bad myself, cos you guys aren't into intentionally over the top cheesy movies AND like you say, you aren't movie critics so being so harsh lends some honesty to the reaction word.

Kyle

2024-11-13 14:59:03 +0000 UTC

I recently re-watched the Mask of the Phantasm reaction and fully understand your perspective, especially since you watched Batman '89 after the Nolan Trilogy. I've always felt that the story is the weakest part of Batman '89, but it's elevated by its fantastic production design, compelling tone, and incredible soundtrack. For many, Batman '89 was the first time audiences experienced a dark, gothic version of Batman on screen, both in live-action films and animation. Before this, we had Batman: The Movie (1966), a colorful and campy film starring the cast of the 1960s Batman TV series—Adam West, Burt Ward, Cesar Romero, Frank Gorshin, Burgess Meredith, and Lee Meriwether, to name a few. The film, along with cartoons of that era, drew inspiration from the Silver Age (1956 to the early 1970s) of Batman comics. During this period, Batman was brought into a more light-hearted, campy world due to the formation of the Comics Code Authority (CCA) in 1954. Heavy censorship followed, leading to whimsical portrayals of characters. For example, the Joker stopped being a killer and became more of a practical joker. However, after the CCA relaxed its restrictions in 1971 and lifted the ban on horror comics, Batman returned to his noir, detective roots, marking the start of the often-overlooked Bronze Age of Comics. Stories like Daughter of the Demon (June 1971) brought back a darker Batman and introduced Ra’s al Ghul. During this time, Batman faced off against cults, assassins, dark magicians, and monsters. Things that had been off-limits during the Silver Age thanks to the CCA restrictions. The mid-1980s kicked off the Modern Age of comics, with some of the grittiest and most mature Batman storylines, such as The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns, A Serious House on Serious Earth, Son of the Demon, and Batman: Year One. These comics inspired Batman (1989), which introduced a darker Batman to non-comic book fans. Many of these fans had grown up with the campy Adam West show, so naturally, Batman '89 holds a special place for those who view it with nostalgia and affection, as it was their Batman. Without Batman '89, we wouldn’t have Batman: The Animated Series or Mask of the Phantasm. We also wouldn’t have the stunning Gothic Revival Gotham City designed by Anton Furst, which influenced the comics that same year. In that sense, a lot of people hold Batman '89 close to their hearts, even with its flaws. Personally, I prefer Batman Returns. I think it’s a much better film. That said, Batman '89 still has, in my opinion, the best rendition of Gotham ever put on screen. Danny Elfman’s soundtrack is also, for me, the definitive Batman theme. But beyond that, I’m not the biggest fan of Batman '89. I think I even prefer Batman Forever (1995) to '89, as I just find it more enjoyable as a movie. So, don’t feel bad about not enjoying the film. on a final note I don’t think there’s been a single great live-action Batman film that does justice to every aspect of the character, unless we include animation. The live-action films tend to focus on certain aspects of Batman while being weaker in others or outright disregarding key elements of the character. Burton's films captured the art direction and chaos of Gotham City, while Nolan's trilogy offered the best portrayal of Bruce Wayne. The Batman (2022) highlighted the often-overlooked detective side of the character and presented a deeply Gothic Gotham City. We have yet to see a live-action Batman film or trilogy that successfully brings together all of these elements—something only animated films, like Mask of the Phantasm, have managed to achieve.

LittleGalaxyBoy

2024-09-28 01:49:47 +0000 UTC

I just watched this; sadly, you don't understand that it's a take on the comic book. Christian Bale is considered the best Batman, and I think that's because of the great movie The Dark Night. But number two is Michael Keaton. Considering you all loved this movie so much, I also recommend Dick Tracy (1990); it has a few actors you might have heard of, Warren Beatty, Al Pacino, Madonna, Dustin Hoffman, Kathy Bates, James Caan, and many more. They sounded like me watching a cheesy rom-com.

Eddie Perkins

2024-09-15 15:25:29 +0000 UTC

Dang...that was brutal. Lol. You must've at least liked the score? Jack Nicholson's performance? The sets? The darkness? Anything?

Chris Thom

2024-08-13 03:59:09 +0000 UTC

When your first Batman Experiences is Nolan and the Dark Knight Trilogy, I get it. Burton definitely has a style, Elfman score still is one of the most iconic next to Williams Superman. A little more credit to Kim Basinger as well, she was a pretty accomplished actor by this time. Might remember her in 8 mile and Fifty Shades. Otherwise I knew going into the reaction on how well you loved it....it's a shame you didn't continue, Returns had some great scenes, Keaton and Pfeiffer are perfect. And I think you would enjoy Val Kilmers Bruce Wayne and Nicole Kidman. You want goofy don't miss Batman and Robin. That's painful. All in all enjoyed your perspective, and love when you two get together.

Chris Retzlaff

2024-03-26 03:49:22 +0000 UTC

In this Batman (1989) reaction. Carly: "Do people still like this movie?" Cassie: "This movie makes no sense. Zero." Carly: "There was actually no story development. No character development." BATMAN TV SERIES I watched the Batman TV series as a kid in the late 1960's - early 1970's and loved it. I was in elementary school. Batman was something we watched in the afternoon after school. BATMAN (1989) I was age 26 when this movie BATMAN (1989) was released. I didn't really like it. I was somewhat ambivalent. I wasn't into DC Comics. I thought Keaton a good choice for Batman. Kim Bassinger was nice to look at. Nicholson (a great actor) had potential to be good as Joker, though Heath Ledger is my favorite Joker. In all, the movie too cheesy for me in 1989. DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY In 2012, I took my 12-year old son to the theater to watch a special showing of all 3 Nolan Batman movies back-to-back (we has already watched the first 2 a couple of years earlier). l liked the trilogy. Now, in my old age of 60, I've grown to like the Dark Knight trilogy even more.

Clay F

2024-03-24 03:56:09 +0000 UTC

Cassie and Carly's reaction to the Batmobile was worth it and even the camera jumped at 1:24:00 approx.

SHANE MARSHALL

2024-02-16 11:02:19 +0000 UTC

I know I'm super late to this party being a new subscriber but it's so weird to hear ppl who didn't grow up with Michael Keaton's Batman bash it. Since in my opinion he is and will always be the best batman and I absolutely hate the Christian Bale batman mainly because of how he trys to change the voice, it's hard to watch. Which sucks because Dark knight is one of the best Batman movies out there. Still loved the reaction and still love this movie even with all the cheesy effects. That soundtrack is classic and loved how they incorporated it in the recent flash movie.

Keyuana Gray

2024-02-12 04:47:16 +0000 UTC

I still can't believe how dreadful Arnold Schwarzenegger was as Mister Freeze. The Animated Series re-invented the character in 1992 with the episode "Heart of Ice". 5 years later we got Batman & Robin a film that clearly pulled heavily from the Animated Series yet failed on every aspect. I think they'd be better off watching Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero (1998) than Batman & Robin. The production design is pretty cool but everything else is just awful lol

LittleGalaxyBoy

2024-02-02 00:41:12 +0000 UTC

This movie definitely hasn't aged well but at its time it was something fresh and different, especially for comic book adaptations which were almost non-existent.

phillip giroux

2023-12-31 15:49:48 +0000 UTC

Ha wow I understand why you didn't post this one to YouTube!

Justin Samlal

2023-12-19 21:13:54 +0000 UTC

You do know this was written and filmed during a writers strike... right?!

Doug Fisher

2023-12-10 07:20:57 +0000 UTC

It's on her channel. (Superman 1978)

Philip Alan

2023-05-08 22:42:26 +0000 UTC

I think the best aspect of this film is not Batman or the story but the Art Direction, tone and amazing soundtrack by Danny Elfman. Anthony Francis Anton Furst who was the production designer on this film create an amazing Gothic Revival Art Deco wonderland, felt like they pulled Gotham City straight out of the comics so for me it's still the best depiction of Gotham City in Live Action. I also adore the very timeless feel this film goes with almost like Gotham was stuck in between the 1930s and 1980s a hybrid of old meets new an elements the Batman Animated Series dives into as well. I adore the Nolan's trilogy but something I was never big on was his depiction of Gotham City and how in Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises it lacked any personality coming across as Chicago in Dark Knight then New York and Pittsburgh in Dark Knight Rises. To me it just never looked like Gotham City felt like Batman was in Chicago instead of Gotham City so I just love that they went out of their way to create a whole new city just for this film. I 100% respect you're view on the film and really sorry you got alot of hate for sharing you're views. But I agree with many of you're points the film hasn't aged all that well compared to Batman Returns but I do think it holds up by going for a timeless feel, Play the film in Black and White and it really does look like something that could've released in the 1940s. From the retro 1930s clothing to the gun shot sounds etc. It felt like a Pulp comic brought to life. Burtons style is also pretty strange inspired heavily by German Expressionism even though I personally think it really suits Batman as the comics can be very creepy and uneasy feeling at times when relating to the more monstrous villains it's still a required taste. Batman 89 is the more tame Burton films when you compare it to his other films. But yeah that's what I personally like about Batman 1989 the visual, art direction, and music aspects more so over the story and characters. Everything else is pretty okay to me as I much prefer Batman Returns and even Batman Forever but it's fun seeing other peoples views on the film. Would you like Batman Returns? Maybe it's much more Tim Burton and outlandish which I love but it's much darker as well. Batman Forever directed by Joel Schumacher is much more colourful and campy a reaction to Batman Returns and how many parents thought it was too dark. Batman Forever is not connected to the Burton movies those continue in the Batman 89 comics so you can pretty much go into Batman Forever as a stand alone movie. On a final note love the honest reaction I may disagree on some stuff but that's why I'm here to see other peoples points of view. My favourite Batman movie is a cartoon, Mask of the Phantasm so would be a cool reaction to that film if enough people vote.

Jedi Mandalore (Dylan)

2023-04-13 01:45:13 +0000 UTC

I LOVED this movie...when I was 16. There, of course, have been many more Batman movies since this one, much better ones, and this really hasn't aged well. I have always loved Michael Keaton and for the most part I do think he did a good job (with the exception of one noticeable scene). This films ends up being a big budget version of the Batman Adam West TV series, in my opinion.

Walter

2023-03-28 13:02:19 +0000 UTC

I thought this was deleted and had to watch. My gf was the same with this movie. This Batman was before a lot of concepts that would shape the later films like Nolan’s Batman. So in 89 there wasn't a raz agul, or even play boy side of Bruce Wayor a serious joker character like Heath. The only Batman content in that erato compare this would be the 70s Adam west and the campy cartoons. This was the first Batman/superhero that was taken seriously while being close to the comics for its time. This movie also set the foundation in how a film markets from toys to even the soundtrack. Basically Batman 89 walked so Nolan’s trilogy could run. Soo I can see why they didn’t like it but enjoyed the reactions 😂 def a fun watch. Would love to see you guys watch Batman and Robin with Arnold Schwarzenegger as mr freeze 😂. Lastly I never realized all that romance was off of one date….Ooof

Joseph harper

2023-02-11 11:05:20 +0000 UTC

Cassie was right......and this movie is highly over-rated

Richard Maurer

2023-01-13 18:53:02 +0000 UTC

This hurts my heart.

Sage Antone

2022-11-27 09:31:20 +0000 UTC

I think you'd like the next film a lot more. It has more romance, more action, just better in every way. I never really liked this first entry, it's too slow, not particularly well written...and this is coming from someone who saw this in '89. Returns is when Keaton's Batman really kicked into gear.

Odd Thomas

2022-08-22 15:58:00 +0000 UTC

Not gonna lie. This hurt. Feels like you were bashing part of my childhood making fun of this movie. P.s. boomboxes were the shit at the time. 😁

Audrey

2022-08-10 04:38:48 +0000 UTC

This movie is still so Freaking great, and that's coming from someone who Freaking LOVES Dark Knight and The Batman. The disrespect in this reaction (especially towards Jack's pretty spot on performance) and from these commentors is so disgusting. Even BTAS, which is completely based off of this movie, still trumps everything ''Silver Screen'' Batman'' ever made to this day FFS....So disappointing, annoying, and frustrating...sigh

Diiirk706

2022-07-02 00:55:40 +0000 UTC

Your opinion of the movie is valid, but trust me when I say yours and other commenters opinion is in the minority.

David Zabel

2022-04-24 04:36:16 +0000 UTC

I’m going to be perfectly honest with this, it took me watching Cassie’s reaction to realize, this movie didn’t age very well. And this coming from a true Batman fan. I saw this as 9 nine year old in 1989 and thought it was greatest thing in the world. As some a 40 year old adult, yeah it feels outdated. I can see why after watching only the Nolan Dark Knight Trilogy this might come off silly. I don’t blame Cassie and Carly for roasting it. You have to remember, at the time, Tim Burton had a vision for what he wanted Batman to look like. And don’t forget, he had just come off Bettlejuice. Bottom line, some people still appreciate this version of Batman and I don’t blame them for it.

Joe M

2022-04-19 23:48:12 +0000 UTC

Yeah this one never connected much with me either. I highly recommend checking out Man of Steel in the future. I think it's one you would like.

Daniel Lund

2022-03-29 03:09:33 +0000 UTC

Just got round to this now. Looking at things from Cassie and Carly’s POV of having seen and liked the Nolan trilogy first, I didn’t have any problem or disagreement with their assessment of BATMAN ‘89. I’d go as far as to say Carly’s observation there’s just about no story or character development is accurate. Once Jack becomes The Joker, it’s basically a madcap tone poem with Batman on the periphery. That said, I think BATMAN RETURNS and BATMAN & ROBIN are still reaction-worthy movies, especially now that Cassie knows, to an extent, what she’d be in for. Though, honestly, the Batman movie I think is, and always was, a must-see is Mask of the Phantasm, the best Batman movie, animated or otherwise, there’s ever been. And it’s essentially a love story, Cassie. 😉👍

Jason Chirevas

2022-03-13 08:00:20 +0000 UTC

put it in the poopy awards category next year. You should really watch the George Clooney one, even if it's for the bat nipples.

softshoes

2022-03-06 07:59:13 +0000 UTC

I love this movie and saw it in the theater but perfection is a really far stretch.

John Wheeler

2022-03-04 02:36:22 +0000 UTC

This movie is perfection.....sigh

Diiirk706

2022-03-02 22:17:59 +0000 UTC

Snooozzzzze.. Even Carly was yawning..

Chadddyboy

2022-02-25 07:30:19 +0000 UTC

Roger Ebert's review of Batman from 1989: https://youtu.be/hT6dRjhkT9g?t=298 Might explain a lot... 😉

ArsTropica

2022-02-24 23:07:23 +0000 UTC

You need a pallet cleanser after that. I'm not sure how I thoroughly enjoyed this movie in 1989. Now it's barely watchable. I suggest Superman 1978.

Gideon James

2022-02-24 01:08:57 +0000 UTC

Hello Cassie, first of all you don't have to like every movie. Your reaction is your reaction and that's fine. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be disappointed. For example I don't like the Matrix sequels, while i think you liked them very much. 🤗 Second, there aren't three Batman movies but four: Batman (1989, Keaton), Batman Returns (1992, Keaton), Batman Forever (1995, Kilmer) and Batman & Robin (1997, Clooney). 😂 In my opinion the first and second are okay, the third is bad and the fourth is even worse. But there are certainly people who like these movies, but since you already didn't like the first movie, save your time and don't watch other movies in this series. 😉 The Dark Knight trilogy, on the other hand, is great, but I think without the Tim Burton films there would have been no Dark Knight trilogy, because a 180-degree turn from the slapstick series of the 60s to the Dark Knight trilogy - with a Batman as he should have always been - would not have been possible. I can't imagine that any film studio would have invested in the trilogy under the impression of the series. 😉 Btw if you want to watch a really very good police/detective movie from the same year, then I can highly recommend 'Black Rain' (1989), directed by Ridley Scott. One of my all time favorites. 👍😄

Chris Lüders

2022-02-22 13:45:15 +0000 UTC

Loving the honesty and people criticising them for not liking it it’s just there opinion. I’d rather them be honest that just say they like it to try and make people happy. Personally it’s one of my favourite Batman movies but I do remember this coming out so I do have a bit of nostalgia for it. But I love Nicholsons performance and still think he’s one of the best Jokers. But if you didn’t like this one there’s no point in watching the other 3 especially the last two.

Dean Holt

2022-02-21 22:43:10 +0000 UTC

I’ve never cared for any of the Batman new or old. Not for sure why just doesn’t do it for me. But I watch the reaction just to listen to Cassie and Carly‘s banter! Their conversations often times make my day. I could probably listening to them react to the Home Shopping Network and still enjoy it!

Steven Ashford

2022-02-21 18:53:11 +0000 UTC

Watchmen (2009), created 20 years later, is the style of film that Batman 89 was aiming at. It would be great if one day, Cassie & Carly review it, and then compare both films.

ArsTropica

2022-02-21 12:14:19 +0000 UTC

I liked Batman Returns over the first Batman. Batman Forever has a completely different feel from the first 2 since its by a different director. Still think they should be given a chance to be watched once and never again. So you could say you've seen it atleast.

☆C~H~A~N~D~L~E~R☆

2022-02-21 07:37:31 +0000 UTC

Should have watched the '66 movie first. If you remember that's the image most people had of Batman when they saw the Burton film it's easier to understand why it was a big deal.

Robin T

2022-02-21 06:52:23 +0000 UTC

I wish there was a way to "dislike" a comment.

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-21 01:20:26 +0000 UTC

Carrey was The Riddler in Batman Forever.

Jay

2022-02-21 00:03:21 +0000 UTC

Who even suggested this crap? I enjoyed watching you both hate this movie as much as I do. You made the right decision to pass on the rest of the old ones. They only get progressively worse and more ridiculous.

Stephen Aech

2022-02-20 20:57:04 +0000 UTC

Cant wait till Youtube edit. But Really of the older ones. Jim Carry as the Joker,,,,, forget which one? Was OK. I know the old ones are not as strong. But they are fun if you take them for what they are at the time. My dad explained it as. It is had been decades since the corny Batman TV show. Then this new wild Batman movie showed up. Wild in comparison to the only thing before, the TV show before I was born by far... But yea, if not expecting, sometimes, thats the best way to go in. No expectations..

Michael J

2022-02-20 20:48:41 +0000 UTC

First.

Carol_White

2022-02-20 20:35:20 +0000 UTC

Bad guys? Um, Riddler seems like the Joker to some. Of course Twitter Face and the odd like bug guy, oh Scarecrow. Bit a fav you forgot at start, The Penguin 🐧. And Arnold plays Mr Freeze on one too. I like the older ones still. Like I said not a Superhero guy. Unless its one superheroes story. If that makes sense.

Michael J

2022-02-20 20:28:28 +0000 UTC

🤣🤣

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-20 18:45:29 +0000 UTC

This is now the most commented post on Patreon beating the previous record of 549 comments for the Suspense movie suggestion post. Congratulations everyone!

Mr Jordan

2022-02-20 18:06:42 +0000 UTC

Haha

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-20 17:31:04 +0000 UTC

Agreed

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-20 17:28:16 +0000 UTC

Now that’s funny!

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-20 17:09:53 +0000 UTC

This comment section by itself is worth my Patreon fee for the month.

MikeLL

2022-02-20 16:39:07 +0000 UTC

I think Eastwood would love her reaction. The take she had on the film and her thoughts on it even if she didn't like the movie are of the kind the director was going for with Unforgiven. That is my feeling anyway.

Mark Sylvester

2022-02-20 16:17:07 +0000 UTC

So this was fun. Still, it is to Cassie’s credit as the No. 1 Reactionista, that just one video could inspire a legion of fans ready to toss their batarangs into Boston harbor.

ArsTropica

2022-02-20 15:56:03 +0000 UTC

She had said she was taking a couple days off. So if there was ever a great time to ignore her social media and miss some comments ….this would be it!🤣🤣

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-20 15:54:19 +0000 UTC

I long for the days of calming and soothing western polls

nick bell

2022-02-20 15:32:16 +0000 UTC

I'm seeing a bunch of comments about how this thread "went bad", but I have to disagree. I read almost every comment from everyone and only 2 or 3 guys really got into it cussing each other out. Otherwise it's just people "passionately" defending their opinions and making a case for their viewpoints. What is more worrisome is that Cassie made TWO comments on this thread and has completely gone "MIA" on social media. No YT posts, nothing on Instagram. I'm hoping it's just real life has her busy and not that she is upset about this reaction.

Todzilla

2022-02-20 15:05:12 +0000 UTC

Cassie did not like UNFORGIVEN but I loved her REACTION!!! She's not a movie critic and doesn't pretend to be. I want her to say how she feels when watching a movie and if she's not enjoying it I want to know. But I will never EVER attack her for liking or not liking a movie. She's not Siskel and Ebert. I care about Cassies reactions to movies I love. ( positive or negative) That's why I'm here.

nick bell

2022-02-20 13:42:10 +0000 UTC

Also .... we have to ease her into twinkies. Let's start with a piece of bread with frosting on it

nick bell

2022-02-20 13:27:25 +0000 UTC

How appropriate! Congratulations you long time supporter! I appreciate you!

Jon Johns

2022-02-20 12:56:16 +0000 UTC

Feel better now?

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-20 12:27:05 +0000 UTC

I was watching a food reaction video called "Norwegian Girl Tries Twinkies" and (spoiler alert), she absolutely hated it. As I watched her reaction, my mind wondered to what the comments would be like if some of Cassie's patrons watched it: - It's OK if you don't like Twinkies. It's your honest reaction. I loved them growing up and still have fond memories of them, but it's not for everyone. - I remember eating Twinkies when I was very young and loving it. They were a huge deal when I was growing up, but I don't enjoy them much now, except as nostalgia. - Oh man, if you don't like Twinkies, then stop, because you're absolutely going to hate Ding Dongs and Ho-Ho's. - Twinkie the Kid was the best snack food character ever. Little Debbie may be more popular and get all the buzz, but nobody was better than The Kid. My favorite snack food spokesmodel ever! - Twinkies were from an earlier and different time when snack cakes were dry and dull. I think if you hadn't tried chiffon and swiss rolls as your first snack cakes, you would have appreciated Twinkies properly and understood how amazing and revolutionary they were at the time. - Prince singing the commercial jingles was the best thing about them. - When will you post your Reese's Peanut Butter Cup reaction? And finally - For FK sakes people, it's a FKing Twinkie!

Mr Jordan

2022-02-20 12:19:45 +0000 UTC

Batman movies always get people talking.

nick bell

2022-02-20 11:14:01 +0000 UTC

That crack about them hiring a model instead of an actress regarding the Vicki Vale character, actress Kim Basinger only has almost 60 acting credits, and is an Academy Award winning actress. But sure, she's just a pretty model.

David Crabtree

2022-02-20 09:36:17 +0000 UTC

Have never made a comment on here before but felt compelled to after seeing your and Carlys initial reactions in the first 20 minutes of the film. At the time of this films release, "super hero" movies were few and far between and ALL of them were campy as all get out. This was the first of its kind that leant towards the darker themes and although - to the modern eye- it seems campy and silly, for the time it was really a big departure from the norm. Also, Tim Burton even then was an auteur and his films then, as they are now, had his trademark style. A style that borrowed heavily from his upbringing of pulp comics and radio shows such as Dick Tracy and The Shadow. I can easily see why modern audiences would not really enjoy this film (as I suspect you and Carly would not, judging from your reactions so far) but please understand that this was a BIG DEAL for the time. As with all art, it is completely subjective and everyone is entitled to their opinions. I enjoy your content and your reactions, both. Keep up the fantastic work!

Jedi Psy

2022-02-20 08:16:16 +0000 UTC

It is disappointing to see people start attacking each other in what is normally a friendly community over a 30 year old movie. Just because Cassie and Carly did not appreciate this movie, does not mean it is a bad movie or invalidate your opinion of this movie. I do not understand why people get so upset when people do not feel the same way we do with certain movies. Accept it and move on. Don't descend into an abusive tirade towards others. Certainly don't do it here. Cassie is working to make this a friendly community. Let's try to keep this a civil place and not hurl abuse at each other.

Brian McGovern

2022-02-20 05:57:49 +0000 UTC

500th! Ha

Sahitya

2022-02-20 04:49:27 +0000 UTC

Well, they didn't like that movie. I guess you had to have been there in the 80's to get it.

Rick Williams

2022-02-20 04:31:25 +0000 UTC

Almost at 500 replies! (Although probably half of them are mine😅) A lot of you are saying "Batman Returns" is even better than this Batman? Those saying that, are you willing to put your money where your mouth is? Let's all send her a "Batman Returns" movie for her next pillow case pick! The more we send, the higher the odds. Who's in?🤷

Todzilla

2022-02-20 04:14:59 +0000 UTC

Hehe, well I wouldn't expect anyone seeing this movie now to really like it. As someone who was 9 when it came out I can't begin to tell you what a big deal it was. But even then we knew it wasn't particularly good. It was just new - it struck a nerve that no movie ever had before. Think of the Wright Flyer. It will always, rightfully, hold great historical importance. But yeah by today's standards it's a crappy airplane. That said, I still love Keaton and Nicholson in this, and I especially love Anton Furst's production design. To my mind still THE definitive Gotham City, and the most beautiful Batmobile, never outdone since.

Robin T

2022-02-20 03:50:13 +0000 UTC

Like Mystery Science 3000, which by the way I have been avoiding for now. However someday I'm going to drop that Cassie, needs to "react" to their reaction. LOL

Todzilla

2022-02-20 03:01:11 +0000 UTC

Ah, I see.

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-20 02:58:36 +0000 UTC

Not all of the patrons have access to the full length reactions.

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-20 02:47:01 +0000 UTC

Something I just thought of: As I type this, there are 475 comments, which is on the high end for the channel, sure, but right now there are 2,375 Patreon subscribers. It occurs to me that most people that subscribe probably don't give a Tinker's Dam about any of this hoo-hah! I felt like it gave me some perspective.

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-20 02:24:48 +0000 UTC

Gina! I loved princes soundtrack, too! What did you think of the girls reaction?

Jon Johns

2022-02-20 01:33:55 +0000 UTC

next Thursday I believe is Rocky 4 on Patreon.

David Crabtree

2022-02-20 01:16:27 +0000 UTC

Few of the comments are feisty. Please Cassie, EASE THEIR PAIN (in Field of Dreams ghostly voice). Release the Rocky 4 reaction.

G

2022-02-20 01:00:02 +0000 UTC

I must admit the last time I saw this film had to be maybe when it came out on blu ray maybe 10-12 years ago, and for me it just did not hit the same way it did when I went with my family to see it in the theaters. I remember we all had such a good time and talked about it afterwards while we picked up McDonalds. For me now the story is jumbled and its tone is a bit everywhere. I don't mind the performances since I know that Director Tim Burton was going for the whole Batman Comic vibe and that works. I don't think that you can really compare these earlier films to the Dark Knight Trilogy in that the intent, context, the times at which they were made, and the Directors all have their own distinctive style. I mean I believe we all know when a film is being made by Tim Burton, Joel Schumacher, or Christopher Nolan. Plus, of course the earlier films were based on the comics which started just before World War 2. While The Dark Knight Trilogy were based more on The Batman from the amazing Graphic Novels, by Frank Miller. I have to say that for me the earlier movies are ones that I remember fondly, but I just don't find them rewatchable. Now, also for me I feel mostly the same way about The Dark Knight Trilogy. I loved them when I saw them in the theaters, but they have lost their gloss over time, except for most of the supporting cast for these films which I think they are really the winners of the films. I just can't watch them over and over first because I never really liked Christian Bale in the films, I prefer him in non-Christopher Nolan dramas. Also, I don't really feel the stakes in the rewatches. I believe that the original films were of a time and I completely understand Cassie and Carly's reaction. Maybe the earlier films need context, known intent, and more knowledge of Tim Burton films to have more fun with them. I am just happy that at the very least that they were honest. Different opinions are okay, these are fictional films and characters, we can disagree, and still be cordial to one another.

Damien beatty

2022-02-20 00:51:04 +0000 UTC

It is true... and if you ask me sometime they prepare her (them) too much! Granted, it is a hard line to walk as you want Cass (and Carly) to go in blind, fresh, and with no spoilers... but you also want to maximize the potential of her (them) to enjoy or at least appreciate a movie. First, I get the feeling they were not in the right headspace to watch any movie let alone "Batman". Second, I think if they went in knowing this was more of a comic adaptation then one going for "realism" it would have helped. Lastly, I think if they also knew that this was made during a writers strike it would have helped them get past some of the dialog that didn't work for them.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-20 00:50:24 +0000 UTC

IMO the biggest difference between these earlier Batman films, and the more recent fare (i.e. the Nolan trilogy and others) is that when this movie came out, comic book movies were not really a popular mainstream genre, or at least not anything near like what they are today. When they released Batman, I imagine they were targeting the fandom of the actual comics alongside the people who had seen the TV shows. The movie feels much more like a literal translation of those into film, rather than one designed to have more broad mass appeal.

BJ Stephens

2022-02-20 00:23:04 +0000 UTC

Hudson Hawk is a terribly underrated action comedy film.

G

2022-02-20 00:21:53 +0000 UTC

Actually the women in the movies and shows you mention and like are more like men than women. I also have to disagree with you on your take of women in the past. Michelle's Catwoman was a great character and Margot's Lois was a perfect representation of a working woman of that era... having to be tough on the outside but still all soft and gooey on the inside.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-20 00:14:04 +0000 UTC

There was a writers strike at the time.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-20 00:10:01 +0000 UTC

Hey Cassie, I've seen a couple of responses from you in a few of the 'not so nice' comments. Listen, I know deep down you're tough like Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley combined, I see it in you. But I've also seen your ability to feel very deeply and now I "have a pit in my stomach" worrying that some of these comments might be bumming you out a bit. Try to focus on the majority which I think share similar feelings to my own. Watching this movie alone with the nostalgia goggles on, it is nothing but memories and good vibes so I am able to get into it and watch it from time to time. I think reading the comments it's obvious that some people did not watch this film through Cassie and Carly's eyes, which to me is the whole point. It is Cassie's reaction channel so that is what you get, this isn't a 'reacting positively to your favorites' channel. When I watch this through my own eyes the nostalgia is palpable, the memories come flooding back and I can enjoy it (still not too often because even with nostalgia it is very dated). Watching this film through Cassie and Carly's eyes, all nostalgia removed I was sitting here like "Um, yea what is going on right now? how did we think...this is madness. Oh 1989, 'what'd you do?!'" lol. Like I said this is a Cassie's (and Carly sometimes to make it extra awesome) reaction channel, not a 'reacting positively to your favorites' channel. I know I'm not here for that I am here because from what I can gather by watching her reactions she is wonderful. Compassionate, funny, kind-hearted, positive, thoughtful, the list goes on, and going on a movie journey with her is the best time, every time. So that being said, it really doesn't matter how she feels about the film itself. lol, She could butcher my absolute favorite and I'd say 'ohh snap, oh well that's fair' it's all good. I'm just here for the good company, to share a love for and to talk movies, try to steer her to some that will really move her and encourage her along the way. Lastly, and this is not directed at all to some of the harsher comments, more just an anecdote on how to look at someone being unkind or mean spirited, a different thing but was reminded of it none the less. When we were younger my best friend used to get some 'unkind remarks' thrown his way and after I was done swinging at anyone within arms reach I would tell him 'it might not help, but anyone who comes at you with disrespect or verbally rude, try to think of that as them doing you a favour. You don't have to go deeper into who they are now, you don't have to waste your time they just showed you their hand. No sense even sitting at the table with them. The respect and kindness you approach people with is usually a pretty big tell and some people just aint worth playing cards with. If you will, lol. We love you and in the words of the great Stevie Wonder "Don't you worry 'bout a thing, mama". Which reminds me. Nickname, not for the channel or us, for those close to you, but did you know the 60's group mama's and the poppa's? 2 mama's 2 poppa's lol. one of the mama's was 'Mama Cass'!!! p.s. if you don't know that Stevie Wonder song...yes you do, lol I'm sure you heard it in Hitch. "..the Q- tip, and now throw it away" ha

Erik Daniel

2022-02-19 23:58:38 +0000 UTC

I still think "Batman Returns" would be a good watch for them.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 23:58:02 +0000 UTC

I don't know... I think they might appreciate "Batman Returns" more.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 23:45:19 +0000 UTC

Daniel Waters (the screenwriter of HEATHERS, DEMOLITION MAN, HUDSON HAWK and BATMAN RETURNS) once described Nolan's Batman movies as the "prose to Burton's poetry." I've never really heard a more apt description of the difference between the two.

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-19 23:22:01 +0000 UTC

So you are the Cass and Carly police now, the expert beyond all others? Cancel culture... yeah, that is the answer. SMH Did you read Cass's comments? Even she admitted that they might have been over zealous in the bashing so I do not think it is unreasonable to think that people who love this movie might have picked up on that.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 23:20:31 +0000 UTC

Well said.

G

2022-02-19 23:06:34 +0000 UTC

I have to disagree. We all love Cass and Carly but we also know they are strong women and don't really need a white knight. One of the reasons we love Cass and Carly is how genuine they are, so to ask their reaction family to not be genuine and honest doesn't really fit. Life is about lessons... good ones, bad ones, easy ones, and hard ones. In this arena (movie watching) you have every right to dump on a movie or movies you don't like, just be prepared for some push back from people who might love them. Personally, I can't stand Disney Star Wars and I have said it here... and I got pushback from those who like them. No big deal. Cass and Carly do not need to be sheltered, they are big girls.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 23:04:23 +0000 UTC

I've only been a Patreon for about two months now so I might have missed this, but it seems in the past a lot of Patreons would "prepare" Cassie for certain films. Is that true? Like "hey, this is kinda scary" or "this is kinda weird". In some reactions she mentions people "warn" her or "tell her this and that". It seems like on Batman 89, she just dove in on her own. I think if people knew she was going to watch it, we could have said "hey, it's kinda comedy based" or "it's not like the Nolan movies". I think knowing that she might have been better prepared. Granted, they still probably wouldn't like it, but at least they were warned. Dunno, just more 2¢ from me.

Todzilla

2022-02-19 21:52:48 +0000 UTC

Honestly I think if she didn't say anything about how they felt about the movie in the description, we wouldn't have alot of this...whatever this is. Going in knowing how they felt puts you in a certain frame of mind already. That's atleast why I haven't been reading her description if I'm going to watch it with her. If you disagree with her opinion, then you may go in hunting for why they didn't like it and become over critical and unnecessarily defensive. If you don't have anything nice to say just stop watching and move on to the next thing. No need to start criticizing and pointing fingers at Cassie and Carly for how they reacted or how they watched a movie. We all kno Cassie and company always pay attention to what they watch. So if you think they were talking too much or distracted, it's probably, for them, the movies fault and it just didn't hold their attention. Could be for potentially a thousand different reasons, but it doesn't matter, and it's also not their fault lol. That's just how they honestly responded to it. Could they have benefited from being prepped a little bit in terms of what to expect? sure, maybe. That didn't happen, big deal. Personally I remember watching the movie years ago and remember liking it, but trying to watch it this time, oh, it just feels dated and a bit cheesy and frankly, I hate this word but, kinda cringey at times. I can still appreciate it for what it is, but other people don't have to and I don't expect they have to. That being said I think most people here are pretty level-headed and don't really care. We all just want them to be genuine. That's all. For the few others, I think maybe you should take a break from the internet, cuz this is just reminding me of YouTube and Reddit

Sahitya

2022-02-19 21:41:21 +0000 UTC

I still love this movie, but it definitely is a case of style over substance. It's got a very Fritz Lang, German expressionist flavor that they doubled down on in the sequel (which is worth a watch, although it's significantly weirder.) And yes, it's supposed to be cheesy and funny.

Andrew Burt

2022-02-19 21:21:45 +0000 UTC

At least with that movie nobody could give them crap for their opinions.😎

Mark Sylvester

2022-02-19 20:52:28 +0000 UTC

I think you're mischaracterizing Cassie and Carly's reaction based on a few of the comments here, while ignoring the many comments that have said they don't think their reaction was as bad as all that. That's the only reason I would suggest maybe watching it for yourself, but of course you do you!

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-19 20:22:12 +0000 UTC

Retracted

james flack

2022-02-19 19:57:11 +0000 UTC

I think Nicholson gets profits from every Batman related project, including Matt Reeves' Batman, Joaquin's Joker and every DCEU movie featuring Batman or Joker.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-19 19:45:49 +0000 UTC

Have you seen GOOD TIME or THE LIGHTHOUSE?

Jason Dolan

2022-02-19 19:44:22 +0000 UTC

Danny Elfman’s score is legendary.

Wade Watts

2022-02-19 19:21:23 +0000 UTC

Batman is Amazing, This is by far one of my favorite Batman. i hope twilight Boy won't make the same mistake George Clooney did.

Tim Mclouth

2022-02-19 19:17:19 +0000 UTC

“Tell me, kid, you ever dance with the Devil by the pale moonlight?” - what a line! Young Jack Napier is played by Hugo Blick who wrote and directed a recent TV series, Black Earth Rising, a fictionalized story about the Rwandan Genocide. He also plays a douchebag lawyer in it. Jack Nicholson also got a bumper pay day for this movie. He negotiated a percentage of the movie profits and merchandising in return for a lower up front salary. Adjusted for inflation it’s approximately $194 million today. And a special shout-out to Prince’s soundtrack. The song “Scandalous” is a little known masterpiece.

Wes Stewart

2022-02-19 18:55:32 +0000 UTC

After reading Cassie's review I am not going to watch this one. I'm not a big fan of Batman as a character anyway although I have seen all of the movies including this one in the theater when it first came out. But I'm really not a fan of watching a movie with someone who refuses to get into it and runs it down. The movie is what it is, enjoy it for that and don't look for ways to run things down.

Beau Mont

2022-02-19 18:38:02 +0000 UTC

agree with your assessment. I mentioned earlier Tim Burton movies are like circus acts, goofy and colorful. most of his movies are. Superman is different, corny but has good character and plot development. Personally I like Superman 2, especially the middle act. the ending is something else, but alright

Wu Sha Ling

2022-02-19 18:17:13 +0000 UTC

For the record, I've seen a few people here mention that based on this reaction they don't think Cassie will like 1978's SUPERMAN. I don't think that is necessarily true. Donner's film is a very different film (with a very different style and tone) from Burton's and I could actually see Cassie really enjoying it.

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-19 18:09:33 +0000 UTC

Agreed. Batman Returns was much better than Batman imo.

Yaisu

2022-02-19 17:47:44 +0000 UTC

I'm waiting to see how the Great Debate of the Star Wars Sequel trilogy will go. The servers might not be able to handle it lol j/k 😄😬🤯

Nismo

2022-02-19 17:17:18 +0000 UTC

Nice job lol, hope you didn't go cross-eyed 😅

Nismo

2022-02-19 17:15:42 +0000 UTC

HBO launched on cable systems in 1972, so was well aged by the early 90's.

Michael Threapleton

2022-02-19 16:51:49 +0000 UTC

I like the idea that we should do a in-theater Batman and Robin viewing, so all of us can have fun roasting that stinker!

Obie Brown

2022-02-19 16:48:46 +0000 UTC

Indeed, especially when one relies on the nostalgia factor from childhood rather than judging a movie in its own merits.

Catherine LW

2022-02-19 16:29:47 +0000 UTC

Here we are on the day after the controversial "Reaction to Batman 89". I'm feeling good, and I don't think anyone is actually "mad". If there is ever a "Popcorn-In-Bed-Con" one of the events should be Cassie & Carly watching Batman 89 in a theater with all Batman 89 & PiB fans. I think it would be a different experience. 🤣

Todzilla

2022-02-19 16:05:31 +0000 UTC

To quote the great philosopher Ricky Nelson, "It's alright now, I learned my lesson well, you can't please everyone so you have got to please yourself."

Michael Sutton

2022-02-19 16:03:05 +0000 UTC

I was too curious... I had to watch the whole thing... oh boy! I'll be impressed if your editor can make a full YouTube reaction out of that lol :S Anyhow, as you said in your closing comments, yes, don't bother with the rest of the original Batman series. BUT do not give up on Tim Burton yet, please! At the very least you'll need to see Big Fish, Ed Wood, and Edward Scissorhands!

Uncle 'Traveling' Matt

2022-02-19 15:49:52 +0000 UTC

Don't be discouraged from watching Batman Returns. It's definitely worth a watch. It's interesting, because you have Batman, but you also follow Selina Kyle and one could argue that she is the main protagonist besides Bruce Wayne of course. It's darker and it might surprise you in more ways than one. You could skip Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, unless you look at those from a "Let's recreate the 60's Batman" standpoint. Forever had some good moments, but Batman and Robin is laughable bad.

Avastrasza

2022-02-19 15:03:19 +0000 UTC

Amen. It doesn't seem that difficult.

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-19 14:46:30 +0000 UTC

I did it! I got through all the comments! Phew! That was tough guys, but i knew the masochist in me would get me to the finish line. Yay. now I'll reward myself with actually watching the reaction.😋

Sahitya

2022-02-19 14:41:29 +0000 UTC

My best friend and I are movie fanatics. We watch movies at his theater at least once/week together. We’ve watched everything from Metropolis to The Devil Wears Prada. We watch, we debate the movie, we rate the movie. We’re movie NERDS! We disagree ALL THE TIME!! Hey just like Siskel and Ebert! Remember them?! They got famous for disagreeing! My best friend is like many of you in that he loves Unforgiven! It’s not my favorite! On the other hand he hates…HATES LOTR. Which I think is one if the greatest movies of all time! He’s more Goodfellas! Im more Godfather. Even though we love both. There’s 2300+ Patreon members. 176,000 YT subs. Most of which don’t know each other much less best friends like my buddy and I. So why on earth would we expect everyone to like OUR very own favorites?! And knowing this why don’t we understand that it’s perfectly fine not to?? I for one don’t want our favorite Reactor to agree with me on everything (even though I’m always right!😀). Nor should she have a pit in her stomach worried she’s offending people. If you want fake Reactors and their fake Reactions people there’s plenty of them out there! I personally do not! I like the genuine article! Whether she likes Pulp Fiction or Batman or Godfather (oh dear god my heart!😳)…or not! We are lucky to have a Reactor whose the real deal and honest. They’re few and far between! Cass for this lone fan….I’m simple to please. Just watch the movie. Do a reaction. And be honest how you feel about it. I’m here because I love how you do it and how you present the Reaction! Not whether you like or dislike a certain movie although that’s always interesting too. You can’t worry about the hate when you have this many subs. It’s just going to be there. So throw it on YT and get your 100,000 views! Oh except Stargate! If you hate Stargate I’m LIGHTEN’ SOME MFers UP ON HERE!!!! 😡😡 JK….sort of 😀

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-19 14:40:04 +0000 UTC

I believe its' "is not." I could be wrong though its been a long time since high school French.

My_Cousin_Mose

2022-02-19 14:15:51 +0000 UTC

Very understandable reaction Cassie. Batman 89 is certainly a product of it's time, as was the Adam West TV show before it. Add to that the fact that it's very stylized due to Burton directing, and the musical score being a combination of Elfman (for the orchestral music) and Prince (for the pop music). I know quite a few people that have a nostalgic attachment to this film and it's sequel, but I never personally understood it. I thought it was pretty good when it came out, but I was already 18 at the time so it really didn't have much of a lasting impression on me. It didn't help that I wasn't a huge fan of Burton either. To each their own though. In retrospect the film has it's good and bad, but it was certainly a phenomena when it was released.

Brian Jones

2022-02-19 14:05:18 +0000 UTC

Oh, and I forgot: Cassie! Gesundheit! Twice!

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-19 11:54:35 +0000 UTC

Alright, watched the full reaction just to make sure, and not surprisingly I didn't find it disrespectful or obnoxious or terrible or whatever people are saying. Now, I'm biased, cuz I love these ladies. I think it's ridiculous also to say they "didn't give it a chance." Like, obviously they gave it a chance, because they watched it! Is it really this hard?? If you didn't like THE WAY they watched it, then fine. But they did the same stuff they do in every react: they laughed, they talked, they told jokes, they asked questions that had already been answered (that happens frequently, do you guys watch these videos?), they made sure their lips were hydrated (I actually counted THREE coats for Cassie to only one for Carly!) So, basically, everything I love about them! And to be clear, I LOVED this movie when it came out. I was 17. All over it! I still think it's great. Some things Cassie and Carly said I agreed with, some not. WHO CARES?? I hadn't watched it in awhile, so there were even a few times where they were critical, and I laughed and said "You know what? You guys are right, how DID all those missiles miss the Joker??" I think the assholes should be banned, but that's just me!

Shaun Ganyo

2022-02-19 11:14:31 +0000 UTC

As far as superhero movies go, the only real competition was the 4 superman movies and, in my opinion, the first two were fun but the 3rd and 4th were embarrassing. This Batman movie was great compared to what the superman franchise broke down into, but yeah... Aside from Nicholson's Joker, this one isn't the biggest log in the fireplace.

Sabrecho

2022-02-19 10:19:18 +0000 UTC

I can understand why this didn't connect with you, but I'm one of the oldies that really loves the way Keaton plays him - as the real but flawed human being that he is.

Lamar Savage

2022-02-19 09:47:17 +0000 UTC

If you’ve made it through all the comments, you deserve an award.

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 09:24:09 +0000 UTC

It probably had something to do with being with someone else to bounce things off of. Maybe she gives it another chance in the future, just chalk it up to an oh well.

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 09:16:30 +0000 UTC

That was interesting, much appreciated

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 09:05:45 +0000 UTC

OMG! I just remembered something. Michael Keaton is reprising his role as Batman in the upcoming FLASH movie. I vote the ladies do a live theater reaction.

Shawn Kildal

2022-02-19 09:04:03 +0000 UTC

This exactly, in a nutshell.

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 08:49:39 +0000 UTC

Real quick in case it helps you decide… Batman: The Animated Series is the best version of Batman of all-time, including the comics, and Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman movie ever made, followed by Sub-Zero.. ‘Kay thanks. I’ll let myself out. 😉

Jason Chirevas

2022-02-19 08:09:25 +0000 UTC

There's never been a realistic Batman because, like all superheroes, he's inherently unbelievable. This isn't a criticism. Dragons aren't believable either but I enjoy fantasy films too.

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:56:46 +0000 UTC

It's not just BATMAN, modern superhero movies in general are bizarrely sexless.

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:49:50 +0000 UTC

I agreed with everything until you said it didn't age well, because at the bottom you posted a link to the Batmobile scene LOL Technically if it didn't age well, that scene wouldn't be great. But YOU are right! That scene is awesome! The music score (Danny Elfman), the dark Tim Burton ambience. The Batmobile. Keaton as Batman. All greatness. Even if Cassie doesn't watch the link you posted, I did, and I thank you for it 😎

Todzilla

2022-02-19 07:49:17 +0000 UTC

Well we are just going to agree to disagree about Batman 89. I don't know if it's my 16 year old self talking but I love this movie. I will give Carly and Cassie credit for being honest and truthful about your feelings. I appreciate that. 4 things though: DC does have a multi verse and Michael Keaton will be in the new Flash film, so it is a different universe than Affleck and Bale. 2. I do agree you don't need the other 3 films to watch The Batman. 3. There was a Batman series with Adam West in the 60s that spawned an even more cheesier movie than 89s. 4. Superman came out in 1978 and 1980 and is considered the beginning of the modern age of comic book movies. I do hope you watch Superman 78 and Superman 2 because it's more grounded and the love story in the 2 movies is earned. It is dated but in a different way. I hope this experience doesn't shy you away from watching Superman. Good or bad I still love Carly's and your reactions. Still got a big fan even if we disagree. Thanks for everything.

David Freese

2022-02-19 07:47:00 +0000 UTC

The Nolan Trilogy has one pretty great movie bookended by two much weaker ones.

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:46:27 +0000 UTC

Curious why you are not a fan of Nolan Batmans? I'm not either! For me the Nolan versions are "too real life". Gotham is just another city. The "tumbler" isn't really a batmobile. Bale's ridiculous gruff voice as Batman. The only bright side of those films was Heath Ledgers Joker. But he still wasn't as good as Nicholson.

Todzilla

2022-02-19 07:37:15 +0000 UTC

When this movie came out, I thought it was really cool. Saw it several times at the theater but it didn't age well. I think Burton was going for a gothic/graphic novel feel and the humor didn't help it any. I wouldn't waste your time with any of the others, especially the Kilmer and Clooney versions.

Kevin Townsend

2022-02-19 07:33:54 +0000 UTC

I have to admit, the comments to this reaction have almost convinced me to watch the Animated Batman series. I believe it came out in 1992 and as a 17yo, my focus was NOT on cartoons at that time (hint hint). I guess for me something good did come out of this LOL, I might discover a new Batman (and apparently one of the best Joker's)

Todzilla

2022-02-19 07:30:07 +0000 UTC

this movie stradles the line between the campy image of batman people had from the show, the more serious tone of the modern movies and also being a weird tim burton movie. you kind of have to take it through the lens of camp and be able to enjoy it on that ground.

rubberkidney

2022-02-19 07:25:17 +0000 UTC

Irish Movie?? "The Quiet Man" (1952) John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara

Sean Novack

2022-02-19 07:16:24 +0000 UTC

Ugh, JOKER is terrible. Just watch TAXI DRIVER and THE KING OF COMEDY and you don't need to watch JOKER

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:13:58 +0000 UTC

Haven’t watched the reaction yet but, judging from the comments here, it wasn’t glowing. That said, I HAVE re-watched the four ‘90s Batmans recently, so a few quick things RE: why I think I understand Cassie and Carly’s reaction… Oh, and, full disclosure, I do not like the Nolan Batmans at all. -None of the ‘90s Batmans have a strong narrative. The villains try to kill Batman. That’s basically it. In the case of the ‘89 movie, the centerpiece was Nicholson’s performance but, in retrospect, the movie basically self destructs into a plotless tone poem the second he becomes The Joker. It’s a much better movie when he’s still Jack Napier. And I say that having worn the VHS of the ‘89 Batman OUT when I was in high school. 😉 -Women play no significant role in any of the ‘90s Batmans. Yes, you could argue Michelle Pfeiffer’s Catwoman has some agency and a POV but BATMAN RETURNS is essentially a jet-black comedy with an expressionist feel; Batman as horrorscape, so anything she does is kind of lost in that. As for Vicki Vale, she’s basically the accessory the Keaton Batman action figure would come with. We really only see her as a prism through which to see Bruce/Batman. It’s a very traditional Hollywood leading lady/damsel in distress part. -Last, Cassie, Carly, you should absolutely watch the 1966 Batman movie based on the TV show. You’re going to see the words “camp” and “campy” attached to that movie and the show constantly. It’s a convenient shorthand, but it’s not particularly accurate. ‘66 Batman is very intentionally funny, satiric, subversive, clever, and conceived and created as pop art. “Campy” sells it way short. AND I would say the Catwoman in that movie has far more agency and strength — and there’s more of a love story 😉 — than any woman in the ‘90s Batmans, or the Nolan trilogy for that matter. OK, there’s my two bits worth, if it’s worth even that.

Jason Chirevas

2022-02-19 07:10:29 +0000 UTC

Very much of the opinion that your reaction is your reaction. If you didn't like it then so be it, everyone has their own taste. I do think that the second of Tim Burton's two BATMAN films, BATMAN RETURNS, is a MUCH better film, as Burton goes all in on his own unique and spooky aesthetic. It's almost a spooky fairy tale.

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:08:04 +0000 UTC

Dude, that's just Michelle Pfeiffer...she's quite possibly the most beautiful woman to ever walk on the face of Planet Earth

Sean Novack

2022-02-19 07:04:31 +0000 UTC

Sorry but the 1966 BATMAN is pretty much perfect in every way. "Camp" =/= "bad" !!!

Patrick Flanagan

2022-02-19 07:01:45 +0000 UTC

When this film was released, it was being compared by audiences at the time to a TV show that literally DEFINED the term "campy". It was really, really bad. DC Comics had a completely different take on The Batman by that time, which was "The Dark Knight", and was extremely gritty and almost apocalyptic. This film was the first attempt to begin to merge those two worlds. Comparing this to Nolan's Dark Knight is like comparing Rugrats to Goodfellas. Yeah, they're both about a gang of people that often get into trouble, but that is about where the similarities end. In order to give the film a fair shot, you really should have watched a couple of the episodes of the Adam West television show - it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference which ones you choose. Throw a dart. They're only 25 minutes long and would provide perfect context as to what audiences had in their minds when they sat down in the theater for this film. For what it's worth, that was a PERFECT reaction coming from your frame of reference! Loved it!

Sean Novack

2022-02-19 07:00:17 +0000 UTC

N'est pas is french for "isn't it?"

SebastianTheCourtious

2022-02-19 06:55:45 +0000 UTC

I frickin’ love Anchovies! 😋

Obie Brown

2022-02-19 06:49:40 +0000 UTC

Batman Returns is A LOT better and you should at least do that one

Dustin Nelson

2022-02-19 06:46:55 +0000 UTC

Thanks for doing this one, Mrs. Popcorn & Carly Popcorn. :-) So, "BATMAN" (1989) was the 1st movie I ever saw in a theater. I was 6 years old (almost 7) and have vivid memories of that screening, including how the audience (and how little-ol'-me) reacted to specific scenes. The audience absolutely LOVED Jack Nicholson's performance-- laughing when he shot Jack Palance and later when he pulled out that super long pistol from his pants (they also laughed at the gift Kim Basinger gets in her apartment). As for me, I was blown away by the Batmobile... the look of the Batsuit... and that moment at Axis Chemicals where Batman punches the bad guy w/ the back of his fist. Little-ol'me was also impressed with the scene where Batman had to fight that bad guy w/ the swords. I had seen other movies before on TV, and had loved watching the "Batman" TV show (which had cheesy fights)... but "BATMAN" (1989) was just on another level. Believe it or not, it was considered a dark and serious adaptation in comparison to the campy re-runs that were on TV at the time. And it was a huge box office hit. Alas, it has not aged well. I mean, yes... all the stylish, superficial things about it (the cool car, the exaggerated sets, the suit, and the musical score) all hold up. But the not-so-superficial things... well, let's just say they could've done better. Being compared to the Nolan Trilogy though... I mean, well... that really is not a fair fight. Christopher Nolan is one of the GREATEST screenwriters and filmmakers in the HISTORY of cinema and "THE DARK KNIGHT" is ranked 4TH on IMDb's Top 250 Movies OF ALL TIME list. 4TH... OF ALL TIME! ("Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight Rises" are also on that list). That's like comparing this year's top luxury electric car w/ all the bells & whistles, to a classic convertible w/ no power steering, no satellite radio, and terrible gas mileage. "BATMAN" (1989) might not have all the bells and whistles from today's era, but it brought something unique to the world at the time, and changed the industry forever. P.S.: give this scene another chance! :-) https://youtu.be/67h06JkUbp4

www.totalruntime.com

2022-02-19 06:32:43 +0000 UTC

I'm probably repeating myself, but I don't think the issue is Cassie and Carly having watched Dark Knight before, or even the MCU. I think they genuinely don't like Tim Burton's style of movie making. Cassie watched the Nolan movies when they first came out and hadn't watched it since. They barely remembered the details including Rachel's character or Liam Neeson's Ras al Ghul or "Ar Yugle" as Carly would put it. Cassie even thought "The Dark Knight" was the first movie, not Batman Begins. I think they judged this movie mostly on its own merits and based on their reaction, I think they have a point. The part where Alfred invites Vicki Vale to the Batcave and Bruce and Vicki are having their heart-to-heart was extremely painful to watch through their eyes. It had nothing to do with Dark Knight, it was just a really bad scene, bad dialogue, bad sub-plot, and these are two people who will grasp at any love story or warm-hearted relationship and even they weren't buying it. The "cartoon-y" nature of the visuals and action scenes as they saw it, again not comparing to Dark Knight, was something they were not connecting with. In the shoot-out scene at the Axis chemical plant, they were trying to imagine if this was what movies looked like back then because the style (Burton's) was so foreign to them, they could not make sense of it. They said it looked older than what they thought a move in 89 would look like. Burton's visual style, as creative and revolutionary as it was back then, was just not working for them. Also, in the beginning of the movie, Cassie noticed Tim Burton's name in the opening credit and asked Carly if she knew who he was. She didn't. Cassie went on to say, "He makes these really weird movies, like...the new Willy Wonka." She already disliked Beetlejuice, so she probably went into this movie with a bit of a bias, not because of Dark Knight, but because of Burton. I think Cassie gave this movie a fair shot, but nothing dissuaded her from her honest opinion that this movie did not work for her, just like Pulp Fiction didn't work for her or The Apartment or Blade Runner. Those were all great movies, critically acclaimed, on the top of most people's lists, but none of them had anything to do with Dark Knight. They just didn't work for her. But, we can always respectfully agree to disagree.

Mr Jordan

2022-02-19 06:20:25 +0000 UTC

One more point (I know I'm posting a lot, LOL). However you felt about this movie, Cassie, it's good that you got a chance to see this version of Batman since it might just become relevant to some upcoming movies. Just sayin'

Michael Jung

2022-02-19 05:47:20 +0000 UTC

Like some of the other people commenting here, I also saw this movie in the theaters in 1989 when it first came out. To put this into perspective, this was the first ever Batman movie, and the only other superhero movie before it was Superman. The TV series aired from 1966-1968, so it was over 20 years between Batmans. The marketing geniuses at Warner Brothers rarely revealed who was in the movie, or what it was about! Most of the advertisements just showed the gold and black Batman symbol. That's it. There was so much hype, mystery, tension and anticipation for this movie in the months leading up to its release. Even before the movie came out, stores were stocked full of Batman merchandise (toys, figurines, costumes, memorabilia, etc.) and people were going crazy buying it all up. Watching it now, sure, yeah - it falls flat. But back then, in a packed theater with 200+ other people watching it on the big screen, it was incredible. The music - that iconic and unmistakable Tim Burton sound - was also amazing: full, deep and rich. In that time period, Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson and Kim Bassigner were all in their prime. And of course, everyone knew Billy Dee Williams from the Star Wars films. It was a different era. My favorite line in the movie is "This town needs an enema."

Martin Leghart

2022-02-19 05:42:22 +0000 UTC

Batman 1989 may be considered a groundbreaking classic as it helped pave the way for more modern superhero media, but the truth is Burton's film was largely style over substance (really cool, weird Burton style, but still...) It's rumored that the movie was plagued with so many production problems that Burton and his team sometimes had to rewrite the script and come up with new scenes ON THE DAY THEY WERE SHOOTING THEM. Might explain some of the weird dialogue...

Michael Jung

2022-02-19 05:38:23 +0000 UTC

One thing I'll say about Cassie and Carly's reaction to Batman 1989 -- it's giving me a greater appreciation for the way women are written in more modern comic book movies. Characters like Vicki Vale were basically shoehorned into being the love interest and the damsel in distress without really getting a lot of character development (even Margot Kidder's Lois Lane often felt like a bit of a "tough woman" caricature in the early Superman movies and Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane frequently felt she was just around to give Peter Parker someone to pine for). I still love the classic Superman and Batman films, but the relationships in shows like WandaVision, Black Widow, Captain America, Black Panther etc. are much better written. They're not perfect by any means, but at least the women feel more like people than props.

Michael Jung

2022-02-19 05:32:30 +0000 UTC

Believe me, back in 1989, we thought that this Batman was pretty dark. We were used to the Adam West Batman which was truly a cartoon. I still think Keaton is my favorite Batman, Bale being my favorite Bruce Wayne.

Yann Laliberté

2022-02-19 05:29:21 +0000 UTC

I see what you did there. Trying to sneak in a movie quote from a film she really loved to confuse the situation. We have to keep our eye on this one lol.

Erik Daniel

2022-02-19 05:22:12 +0000 UTC

What's interesting is that the Batman movies got progressively darker from Adam West's campy "Batman: The Movie" to Tim Burton's "Batman" movies to Christopher Nolan's "Dark Knight" trilogy (with a brief regression to camp in Schumacher's "Batman" films). Audiences who saw the movies in release order gradually got acclimated to seeing Batman as the gritty realistic crimefighter we know today. But because Cassie's seeing the film eras in REVERSE order, she's seeing Batman regress into a less realistic version of himself (Tim Burton's Batman may have seemed dark and "serious" to audiences in 1989, but that's largely because they were comparing it to Adam West's goofy Batman of the 1960s. By the way, Cassie - if you ever decide to see Adam West's "Batman: The Movie" be prepared -- you'll swear it was produced by the guys who did "Airplane!"

Michael Jung

2022-02-19 05:18:23 +0000 UTC

I am sorry you did not approve Batman but I understand it's not for everyone I mean when comparing this to dark knight is like comparing apples and carrots lol. I don't want you to see the others EXCEPT Batman Returns lol but that's just me. But maybe it's time for you watch DC animations Batman LOL lots of good stories in that show or even The animation movies like Batman Year One.

MatthewBrown74m

2022-02-19 05:09:11 +0000 UTC

Back when I was 21, this movie was awesome, but not so much at 54. LOL I LOVED both of your reactions, though, and that's why I'm here, not to judge movies (99% of which I have already seen!!).

Craig Russell

2022-02-19 04:42:37 +0000 UTC

Had another thought for you guys (& girls). Cassie had never seen a Star Wars film before starting this channel so she's experiencing it in the same "order" we did. I'm curious to see what she thinks of the sequel trilogy? I bring this up because she saw the "Dark Knight" before Batman 89. Wondering if that would have made a difference? I'm assuming the MCU would have still have had an impact on Batman 89? Just thinking aloud here.

Todzilla

2022-02-19 04:39:32 +0000 UTC

Yeah, if they have not watched the DCEU, I think it would be fun to see them react to: MAN OF STEEL BATMAN V SUPERMAN ULTIMATE EDITION WONDER WOMAN ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE I guarantee they'd be WAY more into those four movies. If I were them I would definitely skip both Suicide Squads and Birds of Prey for now. While Peacemaker is phenomenal, might be a little too hardcore for them. They'd probably enjoy Aquaman and Shazam! Wonder Woman 1984 was inspired by the camp of the 80s so they might not be into that, though I'm sure they'd dig the love story, or at least have some really FUN commentary about it. JOKER is a must watch - it would tear them apart but it would be an amazingly visceral reaction.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-19 04:30:06 +0000 UTC

I'm subbed for honest reactions. Its definitely more fun when you and Carly actually enjoy the movie and that's why many here take that into account when voting. You can't like em all though. Keep it genuine and try not to worry too much, your channel is awesome!

My_Cousin_Mose

2022-02-19 04:24:02 +0000 UTC

Well said. "I like your style"

Erik Daniel

2022-02-19 04:22:20 +0000 UTC

It's my Batman film too! My ego isn't bruised, I actually kinda feel bad that there only real experience was the Bale Batman. Think that played a lot into how they reacted.

Todzilla

2022-02-19 04:20:13 +0000 UTC

I grew up on this on VHS along with 90s cartoon. I guarantee if you didn’t like this. You won’t like Batman Returns which is weirder and the other 2 with are campy times 100 and a 1000. Might I recommend Man of Steel followed by Batman v. Superman

Sean Stuart

2022-02-19 04:07:10 +0000 UTC

If she has not seen While you Were Sleeping, wow is that going to go over well. Great film. Not to throw Robin Hood under the bus I am waiting for that one too.

Erik Daniel

2022-02-19 04:06:55 +0000 UTC

Great and insightful comment!!

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 04:05:07 +0000 UTC

Don't be so hard on yourself about the reaction Cassie. You and Carly gave us an honest reaction at the moment. That's why so many people like your channel. You shouldn't fake it or pretend to like everything you see. Nostalgia and childhood memories are powerful feelings, that's why some people are commenting the way they are on here. Don't let this first bit of "adversity" on here make you feel down or change the way you do things. You still have the best channel, personality, and community! You'll always have my support! 👍👍

Nismo

2022-02-19 04:04:58 +0000 UTC

I came for the comments! Hahaha!

Philip Alan

2022-02-19 04:01:57 +0000 UTC

I know. Crazy.

Ike

2022-02-19 04:01:51 +0000 UTC

Lol, lots of bruised egos here. This is, and always be, my Batman film.

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 03:53:03 +0000 UTC

Lol, dear god, I’m not sure what kind of reaction that would get. I used to watch that every St. Patrick’s Day.

Andrew Hogan

2022-02-19 03:50:23 +0000 UTC

Either of those would be great (particularly AIR FORCE ONE), but given the recent tragic passing of Ivan Reitman, I would suggest DAVE.

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-19 03:48:37 +0000 UTC

Ike, ever show up on a date wearing something you thought was very cool, only to have a girl laugh at you? Underestimate the power of a female chagrin at your own peril. #BeansabovetheFranks.

Grinznmore

2022-02-19 03:44:51 +0000 UTC

Good god gurdy this thread! 🤦🙄

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-19 03:38:30 +0000 UTC

Epilogue: Go ahead and laugh at Batman 89; it's an easy target. I could be a hard hearted movie critic, but I like Tim Burton. My friends like Tim Burton.....

Grinznmore

2022-02-19 03:34:57 +0000 UTC

Hey Cassie, I want to say first off that I'm glad you and Carly were honest about your dislike for the movie. I happened to watch it again recently for the first time since I was a teenager, and it doesn't really hold up outside of the great Jack Nicholson's interesting portrayal of the Joker. I think the reason some comments are annoyed with the reaction is because this is a very nostalgic movie for them and was their first introduction to the world of Batman in movie form so it holds a special place in some folks' hearts. That said, it doesn't really hold a candle to the Dark Knight trilogy in terms of overall film making (IMO), and I can see how those being your idea of a good Batman movie would make this one seem off. And to be fair to other commenters, this movie was groundbreaking for its time. Nowadays, I think of it as sort of the lovable-but-no-longer-cool grandfather of modern comic book movies. I will agree with some other commenters that the rest of this series going into the 90's is not really worth a reaction (the more cartoonish Val Kimer ones are terrible IMO). Anyway, don't let the rude people get you down! I was a bit disappointed when you were kind of lukewarm on Pulp Fiction and the first Blade Runner (two of my favs), but I was also able to put myself in your shoes and understand those kind of movies can be hit or miss with some people on first watch. As for a YT reaction, maybe put up a poll on there saying that you and Carly weren't big fans of the movie and want to know if the YT folks would want to see a reaction to it anyway. At least that way you can gauge the room beforehand. :-)

Jeff I.

2022-02-19 03:28:27 +0000 UTC

Cassie, Carly…. Never ever apologize for not liking something. Don’t ever apologize FOR liking something either. Having an opinion is NOT offensive - nor has it ever been - despite some holding their knees and feigning injury. You guys had the same opinion about a dated movie that simply could not be expected to cater to everyone 33 years later - so that isn’t bashing, it is a valid, critical review which plenty of other professionals are paid to do on television, websites and social media. You had a “reaction” to a movie that simply wasn’t your cup of tea - it's why we’re here. Please don’t apologize, don’t offer us strangers excuses, and don’t be afraid to post this one. This is YOUR show, so tackle this head-on - because we got your back.

Ike

2022-02-19 03:25:52 +0000 UTC

Do you like anchovies on pizza? I recall people putting orange and brown shag carpeting in their homes in the 70's. At the time, I thought it looked ok. Is Bob Dylan really that great? Do you prefer reading books on a reader or paper? Some things are so distinctive that you either love it or run for the exit. Tim Burton's interpretation of the Batman is anything but vanilla. Alfred would be the first to tell you, not every movie is your cup of tea.

Grinznmore

2022-02-19 03:21:03 +0000 UTC

I was scared to watch this video after reading all the comments, but I didn't think it was too bad! I can understand why it wasn't your cup of tea- especially if all you've ever known are the more recent iterations of Batman. I agree with the people who say there might need to be some context with this movie. There really weren't a whole lot of superhero movies back then, so there wasn't this big push to make them serious or real world like they are today. Back in the day this movie was the dark and gritty reboot to the 1966 Adam West Batman (which honestly I think that's the Batman you should watch next- it's very much a live action cartoon and the complete opposite of how most people think of Batman). 1992's Batman Returns was so dark that Warner Brothers parted ways with Tim Burton and brought on Joel Schumacher to make Batman kid friendly again. I love Batman Returns- so I'm not sure if my heart could take someone dogging on that movie too much- but I would be super curious to watch someone who has only seen "serious" Batman movies watch the 1966 Batman movie, or Batman Forever or Batman and Robin, or even Prince's BatDance video that went along with this movie. You wanna get nuts, let's get nuts! On another note I'm hoping you watch 1991's Robin Hood with Kevin Costner, or 1995's While You Were Sleeping with Sandra Bullock, or 2003's Down with Love, with Ewan McGregor

Jeff Hernandez

2022-02-19 03:18:58 +0000 UTC

I think "Batman Returns" is better... but I agree the last two were definitely worse.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 03:18:09 +0000 UTC

I feel like nostalgia gets a lot of people with this. Fair enough it’s one of the first movies I remember seeing on dvd but it doesn’t hold up on multiple rewatched especially with no development for Bruce. People were amazed at the time because for mass audiences it made Batman serious but looking back it’s really goofy. Batman was already serious again the comics for over a decade with things like year one and dark knight returns which are masterpieces. You can’t deny the films impact however. I like the second one even more because it goes full crazy tim burton with almost no Batman which is I think what tim burton wanted to do cause he’s never read a Batman comic.

Night King01

2022-02-19 03:17:31 +0000 UTC

I would like the movie more if he didn’t murder people at the end. The reason for that is that a writers strike happened during the script writing so they sent it off to two dudes who had never heard of Batman which is why in the third act he kills people and says he’s gonna kill the joker. Shame.

Night King01

2022-02-19 03:07:13 +0000 UTC

So I will say this… Batman is a classic because it set the groundwork for every Super Hero movie that followed. There was nothing like it before it. No template to copy, no style to emulate. So instead what you got was an art school weirdo like Tim Burton making a comic book movie for a studio, but he never really liked comic. books. Batman Returns however is a MUCH better movie all around. The plot makes sense. The villains are more interesting. And the romance between Catwoman and Batman holds up WONDERFULLY. Also there are 4 early Batman movies, not 3. Batman Forever stars Val Kilmer as Batman and he goes up against Two-Face and The Riddler (Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey respectively) and then there’s Batman & Robin which is considered one of the worst films of all time because it is nothing but campy, zany, wacky nonsense. It has Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr Freeze and Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy… and it has Bane… sorta. It’s really bad. But I would encourage you to push on. Batman Returns is a big improvement. I promise. I’ll double next month’s patreon donation if you don’t think it’s better.

djKENTO

2022-02-19 03:05:56 +0000 UTC

Some people get way too invested in the nostalgia of movies and don’t understand that others don’t see some of these movies the same way they do. I appreciate you and Carly’s honest reactions. Don’t be discouraged by some of the comments. Keep being the awesome person you are doing what you do 😊

Josh Phillips

2022-02-19 03:03:42 +0000 UTC

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, and I apologize if it has, but according to Cassie's Letterboxd (list of movies she has seen} BATMAN AND ROBIN (1997) is listed. So, hopefully she won't be tortured with that atrocity again. Off subject, President's Day is this upcoming Monday, may I suggest AIR FORCE ONE or THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT? AFI has listed THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT as one of America's greatest film love stories and inspired the creation of The West Wing TV series.

Shawn Kildal

2022-02-19 03:01:11 +0000 UTC

About the ending… traditionally, batman never gets the girl. If he did, he would go off mission. Unfortunately this has given rise to (false?) freudian suspicions about his sexuality. I don’t say this is as a burn on the film or the character, but modern batman has come under some scrutiny for having no stable important female relationships in his life.

ArsTropica

2022-02-19 02:43:50 +0000 UTC

Agreed. Honestly, I’m not a fan of Tim Burton’s movies, but I do love Johnny Depp in this movie. I think Cassie would like Edward Scissorhands. It has everything she looks for in a movie. I can see her laughing, crying and putting her hand over her heart at the emotional and sweet moments.

Tara

2022-02-19 02:21:54 +0000 UTC

Now Hannah don't you come for The Terminator like that.😁😉

Mark Sylvester

2022-02-19 01:46:42 +0000 UTC

She definitely shouldn't censure herself, but I also hope that she doesn't censor herself. :-)

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-19 01:40:21 +0000 UTC

Your reaction to this is perfectly reasonable, going into it blindly with your only reference being the Nolan films. I usually am all for blind reactions but this is one of the very rare cases that I think knowing a bit of what you were getting into would have helped you enjoy it a bit more. You are right, it was weird and doesnt really make a lot of sense. But if you think about it MOST stuff coming out of that time frame was just freakin weird already. Then you tell Tim Burton to make a movie out of a comic book/cartoon character in a world where superhero movies werent really a thing yet. Not to mention filling it with Prince songs. Its a recipe for weirdness. In that context it makes a lot of sense. Batman, and superheros werent taken seriously by the general public and I think the idea was to make it something people would bother watching, more than making a "good" story. It would have to be kind of a spectacle, a weird and wild experience, and to show it wasnt just for kids. The 80s were a weird time for movies though, and I'll agree this is no exception. The way you feel about this, it being awful and painful to watch, is the same way I feel about the Terminator, so Ill not judge you for not liking this one.

Hannah Mather

2022-02-19 01:39:39 +0000 UTC

I hope you don't mind, but I may completely steal your idea 😇

Mr Jordan

2022-02-19 01:30:36 +0000 UTC

Probably would have hit better if the Nolan movies had not yet been seen. As it is, "Batman" didn't age well for me. I didn't think anything was out-of-bounds in the reaction and not liking something, wishing it was over, yawning, etc. Well; those are reactions.

Michael Labs

2022-02-19 01:22:23 +0000 UTC

P.S. There are a lot of amusing reactions throughout this whole video, but probably my favorite one is more subtle: it comes at 1:35:50 (1:31:15 in the movie) when they cut to a shot of young Jack Napier in the flashback and it's a Dutch angle, so Cassie and Carly both simultaneously tilt their heads ever so slightly. That made me LOL. I'd do a YT edit just to highlight that moment. X-D

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-19 01:06:16 +0000 UTC

What she said.

ArsTropica

2022-02-19 00:57:40 +0000 UTC

1. I first saw this movie in '89. I cannot exaggerate the sensation this movie produced. It was the bee's knees. 2. Upon this second viewing, my reaction is essentially the same as Cassie's. I do not know what we were thinking in 1989. 3. Carly's constant yawning is apropos. 4. I really don't think they should be obligated to watch the sequels. It's diminishing returns. 5. I feel like this is an attempt to merge a) Adam West Batman; b) Christopher Reeve Superman; and 3) Frank Miller Batman. It cleared the ground for modern superhero movies.

Carol_White

2022-02-19 00:54:02 +0000 UTC

"and all that crap you like" Yep, that's definitely rude, Shebab.

Jay

2022-02-19 00:47:46 +0000 UTC

Cass and Carly... always be yourself. People respond to HONEST reactions. If you do not like something people will appreciate that honesty even if it is for a movie they like. Just the same if you like a movie they dislike. Too many reactors give fake love for movies they dislike and it shows.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 00:47:09 +0000 UTC

I was going to give you half a heart on this one because I agree that I liked "Batman Returns" more but I disagree that "Batman" was not that great. "Batman" was huge.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 00:44:30 +0000 UTC

I guess it all depends on perspective. Burton's Batman had a great comic book vibe and was a resurgence for the genre. I saw this on opening night and was blown away. Younger people might not appreciate how HUGE this film was back then. I mean it seemed like everyone was wearing a Batman T-shirt. Though I loved this movie... "Batman Returns" was my favourite. I mean come on... Michelle was so hot as... well those that have seen it know who she played.

Doug Fisher

2022-02-19 00:42:21 +0000 UTC

You do gotta watch Edward Scissorhands though. If any Tim Burton movie will win you over, it's gotta be that one.

Godzilla Jones

2022-02-19 00:23:01 +0000 UTC

I agree, as a kid I loved it but re-watching as an adult, it’s not as good because it’s easy to compare to Christopher Nolan’s version. And Christopher Nolan’s are a masterpiece.

Daryl

2022-02-19 00:15:50 +0000 UTC

I agree that this Batman movie is not that great. I liked Batman Returns a lot more.

Nathan Bishop

2022-02-19 00:11:52 +0000 UTC

Will always be in my top 10 because Prince did the soundtrack and it is amazing!

Gina Houston

2022-02-19 00:10:48 +0000 UTC

Retracted

james flack

2022-02-19 00:04:16 +0000 UTC

Kevin Conroy is the goat, imo

ArsTropica

2022-02-19 00:00:41 +0000 UTC

She might get a kick out of seeing the bat nipple suit. But otherwise agreed.

ArsTropica

2022-02-18 23:59:44 +0000 UTC

Hey everyone! Just remember, there are only TWO kinds of people in the world: Those who think Michael Keaton is the greatest Batman of all time. ...and those who are wrong.... LOLOLOL

Todzilla

2022-02-18 23:55:56 +0000 UTC

Haha I knew they were gonna hate this movie. Hopefully they don't watch the other ones that came after this - they don't get any better.

Johnny

2022-02-18 23:54:56 +0000 UTC

Every single reaction to this movie that I’ve seen (and there are quite a few). Every single one. have criticized the lead actors’ chemistry, film special effects and sound design. It’s obvious that it didn’t age well. But if one can get past that, it’s still fun. If not, it’s got to be a real grind to watch.

ArsTropica

2022-02-18 23:52:18 +0000 UTC

"Grimace set them up!" I caught that too! LOL Big Purple dude from Mc Donald's. When the box of dead flowers popped open and they jumped! LOL And yes, the Cassie impersonation of the grappling hook rocked!

Todzilla

2022-02-18 23:44:31 +0000 UTC

What annoys and confuses me is that you're fans of MCU, Marvel, and all that crap and you like the new Spider-Man movies, yet you complain about the cheesiness in this one? The last 3 Spider-Man movies were some hot garbage with their millennial jokes and the hero being a little weak 15-year old with a high-pitched girl's voice. Sorry that my thug mode came out but like Michael Jordan in The Last Dance: "I took that personally".

Shehab Dawoud

2022-02-18 23:43:03 +0000 UTC

I quit half way through. I wasn't really feeling it cuz you guys weren't feeling it. Zero hard feelins though. I could appreciate a lot of your points. Some films perhaps don't transend the decade they were made in as well as others.

Daryl

2022-02-18 23:35:41 +0000 UTC

Having grown up with this movie I have a soft spot of nostalgia for it but looking back as an adult its really quite bad but with certain aspects I still enjoy. I love the batmobile design, score, and the look of Gotham. I enjoy Nicholson's Joker and prefer Keaton's voice as batman if nothing else over Christian Bale. My biggest gripes as an adult are the non-existent chemistry and focus on the romance and the glaring lack of any narrative thrust or plot moving the story forward, it just meanders from scene to scene.

Choof

2022-02-18 23:28:12 +0000 UTC

You don't need to have grown up with this to like it. I watched the Nolan trilogy long before this and I liked it, taking into account how different things were in 89, and I normally don't like cheesiness. Yes, the romance was not good, but that was also the case in The Dark Knight Rises with Catwoman and Miranda. I also felt like you were a little bit too talkative, constantly going on about the vibe and the look and therefore missing out on certain things, that does affect your reaction. I hope I'm not sounding too rude, but I don't think your effort was good in terms of concentration and openness. I don't know if others have the guts to say it, but I'll speak my mind. Batman Returns is much better imo, but I don't know how much of a difference it'll make. Seems like you've made your mind up about Tim Burton, and I think that also affected you before the movie even started. Hope you give it a fair chance.

Shehab Dawoud

2022-02-18 23:19:11 +0000 UTC

I see there is some controversy here. I was a big fan of the 60's TV series and was looking forward to seeing this but left disappointed. I just don't think Michael Keaton was the right actor for the role. Just my opinion folks.

Darren Hill

2022-02-18 23:13:55 +0000 UTC

oh guys, i kind of have a pit in my stomach after reading these comments. i think you are right that we kind of “ganged up” on the movie. I die at the thought of coming off as condescending or disrespectful though :/ i’m glad we didn’t pretend to like it, but we probably got caught up in the “bashing” Maybe we don’t do a YT edit to this 😕

Cassie

2022-02-18 23:07:32 +0000 UTC

Retracted

james flack

2022-02-18 22:58:42 +0000 UTC

Blade (1998) was before X-Men (2000) and Spider-Man (2002) and is what really set off the modern run.

Mike Lemon

2022-02-18 22:55:23 +0000 UTC

Originally, Batman was created as a hard boiled, no-nonsense figure from the 1930's pulp magazine traditions of characters like Sam Spade. When the comic censorship code went into effect in the 1950's, all the realism and dark toned plotlines were removed so that the comics could pass the censorship standards. This eventually led to the campy Adam West era that was deemed more "kid friendly". Things would have remained that way if it were not for one artist, Frank Miller. Miller, already a full time writer for Marvel in the early '80's, moved to New York and started writing stories for Daredevil. As a writer, Miller was drawn to dark themes and motivations for his heroes. However, art and reality collided when Miller was mugged on his way from work several times. These "events" signaled the birth of the Batman as we all know him today. In Miller's own words... "There’s something demeaning about the first time you’re knocked to the ground and punched in the stomach and have a gun waved in your face and realize that you’re completely at somebody’s mercy. And they can take your life. And at that point, you’ll do anything. There’s something so humiliating about that. And to me that made me realize that Batman was the most potent symbol DC had in its hands. " The attack changed Miller's whole perspective towards the role of superheroes in society. The result was the iconic Dark Knight Returns graphic novel series which, if you haven't seen or read, I strongly encourage doing so. The novels were wildly successful and they totally changed the persona of Batman from a campy kid-friendly costumed adventurer to a politically motivated last guardian of social order - something adults started taking a serious interest in. A transcript of an interview with Miller on TDKR can be found here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/a-rare-interview-frank-miller-871654/ Burton's Batman movies were created in the shadow of Miller's works and were a first attempt to include any type of realistic social problem instead of aliens or giant robots in superhero movies. Obviously, the Nolan films eclipse this attempt in almost every way, but they were made standing on the shoulders of both Miller and Burton's artistry. Since penning the Dark Knight series, Miller has continued pushing his art and writings to more extreme and dark places. In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, he wrote (and drew) the graphic novel, Holy Terror, which follows a protagonist not dissimilar to Batman who fights Al-Qaeda terrorists. It has mostly been panned as an islamophobic screed, but is worth a look in the context of the earlier changes he made to the Batman character. As Bruce Wayne can attest, trauma can be a powerful motivator. But is there a line that we shouldn't cross?

ArsTropica

2022-02-18 22:45:12 +0000 UTC

Amen!

G

2022-02-18 22:44:35 +0000 UTC

I'm willing to bet they would like Tim Burton's other films. And Cassie already kind of knows Tim Burton's style as she said they were "weird." But they came into this movie with the Dark Knight trilogy in mind and that did not do them any favors.

inpham0us

2022-02-18 22:43:42 +0000 UTC

lol wow I'm sorry about some of the harsh feedback. I still had a blast. That just didn't take eh? lol, Now of course, for your sake I hoped you would have enjoyed it more. No one likes sitting through a movie they really aren't feeling, I was checking the time for you ha. I think you enjoyed Quint in 'Jaws' scraping his nails against the chalkboard more than a few of those scenes. But other than me wishing I could take away your pain lol, that was fun. And if I'm known for anything it'll be long comments so a few quick things then I'm gone. It makes sense this would be 'camp' to the both of them and probably for most who watch it present day. It was great at the time because it was pretty much the first of its kind for Batman films, while the 60's t.v. show was camp. And people forget, the old 60's show wasn't always 'camp' and silly, at the time it was semi-serious. So in 1989 this version of Batman was new, gritty, dark and serious. Now since Nolan "reinvented" the character, and his interpretation has pretty much stuck, these old ones now seem camp. And the t.v. show? With all respect it now seems like a spoof compared to what we now know. Hey I grew up with and love them too but I can see through the nostalgia on these ones. Oh and just to blow both your minds with how big this movie actually was because yes, looks camp now I agree, It was the highest grossing movie of 1989 lol. Highlights: - "Tim Burton I think he makes weird movies". A few moments later "this got weird vibes" lol. Oh it gets weirder, get out while you can. - "Grimace set them up!" lol. First off, funny all by itself, but then the next shot is of Jack and for the first time ever, because of his hat (and your comment) he reminds me of the hamburglar lol, so thanks for that. - The look of bewilderment on both of your faces during the art gallery scene was magnificent lol. That's how I look playing Jeopardy with mom. - Lastly, right before the whole...swinging (sleeping?) upside down scene lol, I remembered it was coming and I swear I did the same thing Cassie did when she saw it only I was dreading it ha. I'm sorry you had to sit through that but like I said, still had a blast. I'm sure you had a few laughs discussing what the H just happened when the camera's cut lol. p.s. We got Carly covering her eyes, a few jump scares and Cassie's impression of the bat grapple hook. All in all, as Pops would say, I'm a happy camper. Thank you Ladies!

Erik Daniel

2022-02-18 22:40:50 +0000 UTC

I agree with Scott if you don't like this one you might want to quit now. But do not watch past Batman Returns for sure. You have been warned.😉

Mark Sylvester

2022-02-18 22:38:33 +0000 UTC

I agree with most of all you said. I think it's a classic comic book film. At the end of the day, it's art, and it's all a matter of opinion. Some love it, some don't, and some are in the middle. Some are into comic book movies, and some are not into it. The "Michael Keaton vs Robert Pattinson." IMHO Pattinson was a more accomplished actor than Keaton when they both got the role of Batman. Keaton was known as a comedic actor before he became Batman, and he did a great job. I think Cassie and Carly will enjoy Superman (1978) cause of the love story.

G

2022-02-18 22:36:12 +0000 UTC

I really liked this movie when it came out. At the time it was one of least campy comic movies to come out. Now about the only thing I like about it is Jack's gaga performance as the Joker.

Mark Sylvester

2022-02-18 22:35:24 +0000 UTC

You can relax Cassie because you have proven here that you don't have to like a movie very much to provide us with a very, very entertaining reaction. This was a blast watching you and Carly confusedly try to make sense of this art deco Tim Burton construction. I enjoyed this film as did many others back in the day, but it is true that the cheese hasn't aged well (it is cheese, but I am very fond of it still). Seen back through time with a lens influenced by 50 other superhero films, this movie appears quite different today. And the four films in this Batman series, by two different directors with 3 different actors playing Bruce Wayne/Batman (Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer and George Clooney), the Nolan Dark Knight trilogy, the latest appearances with Ben Affleck as Batman, and the new The Batman movie coming out all exist in separate universes and any one doesn't depend on knowledge of another. As others have said this movie was wildly popular on its release, was a cultural phenomenon, and made a ton of money at the box office. Whenever I hear a Danny Elfman soundtrack in a movie, I think back to this iconic score. When this came out the coolest thing to have was a Batman logo T-shirt and the Prince album with songs "from the movie" had videos with heavy rotation on MTV. Here is the most famous, check out Prince's Batdance music video, once you see it your life will never be the same, lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulOLYnOthIw

MikeLL

2022-02-18 22:30:45 +0000 UTC

Bravo James! I agree. When I see classic cars, I'm totally in awe (I mean not Pintos, LOL), but I guess Millennials would be like "no blue-tooth"?

Todzilla

2022-02-18 22:26:11 +0000 UTC

It's okay girls, not everyone has good taste.

David Eldridge

2022-02-18 22:13:46 +0000 UTC

Elfman later said that he almost suffered a nervous breakdown composing the film's score.

ArsTropica

2022-02-18 22:10:30 +0000 UTC

The early SUPERMAN movies were the only truly successful comic movies at that time. Studios stayed away from comic movies until BATMAN (1989) became a massive hit. I love the anecdote about composer Danny Elfman. Producer Jon Peters didn't know what to make of the project until Elfman played him the opening theme. Peters got out of his chair and started dancing around the room, knowing the movie was going to be successful.

Alex Villarreal

2022-02-18 21:56:12 +0000 UTC

It was forbidden fruit for me. My parents didn't let me watch it because it had that "dark" reputation, which was alluring at age four. But I stayed with my grandmother one weekend, and she let me watch it.

Alex Villarreal

2022-02-18 21:55:44 +0000 UTC

Well, that was a very interesting reaction to say the least. And I'll preface by saying it's going to be difficult for a lot of people to see you two basically tearing a childhood movie apart that they love...but that's why we are here--to see honest, genuine reactions. I was an 8 year old boy when I saw this movie in the theater with my parents. Needless to say, I loved it. It was a big deal back then and was praised because unlike today, big budget super hero movies were not commonplace. We had Superman with Christopher Reeve before this but that was pretty much it. It wasn't until the X-Men and Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies that super hero movies really took off on the big screen. And really, if you show this movie to someone who's seen the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe and then show them a 32 year old super hero movie from 1989, this is what I expect would be the likely first reaction. Watching it as an adult, I can see there is a lot of silly, cheesy stuff in this--but I suppose that's part of the charm. And this is totally a Tim Burton film...people who have only watched the Christopher Nolan Batman movies would be in for a shock. Without the nostalgia glasses on, it really is kind of an odd movie if you are watching objectively and trying to compare it to the Dark Knight trilogy--which was intentionally grounded and grittier than most comic book movies.

inpham0us

2022-02-18 21:53:46 +0000 UTC

I gave backlash on here! LOL But I did preface my long ole post with it wasn't their fault. The Bale movies ruined this one for them. LOL

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:52:20 +0000 UTC

Finished the reaction and despite you didn't enjoy the movie itself much it was still fun. I don't know how would I feel if I were a superfan of this movie. But I'm not. So I say better this than being phony and faking to like it. It was a lucky draw that you reacted to this together, at least you entertained each other and had some fun. Although I admit I did wonder a couple of times whether we would have a little less harsh reaction if you didn't wind up each other. But to be honest I think pretty much all your arguments were valid and I had very similar thoughts and feelings when revisiting this movie ~10 years ago. Things that did work or didn't bother me as a child were so obvious then.

Gábor Árki

2022-02-18 21:51:36 +0000 UTC

Cassie i feel for you. They only get worse.

Gideon James

2022-02-18 21:50:57 +0000 UTC

"That was pretty painful for me." And that was painful for me. Yikes In all seriousness, though, it's fascinating to watch the reaction of someone whose initial exposure to Batman in the live action medium is Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, because it is an entirely different beast from all the things that came before it (though it still stood on their shoulders). Tim Burton's BATMAN was refreshing at the time for, if you can believe this, taking its subject matter so seriously... at least in comparison with the highly campy 1960s television show with Adam West (prominent film critic Gene Siskel even praised the film for the "psychological complexity" of its characters). It was one of the first big-budget major studio-backed comic book movies (the very first one really being Richard Donner's 1978 SUPERMAN, which, for my money, is still the greatest comic book/superhero movie ever made) and as such was produced in a very different context than nowadays where comic book movies are considered their own valid sub-genre of cinema. The casting, for example, of Jack Nicholson -- who was, and is, an acclaimed and respected actor (having won two Oscars by that point) and not just a movie star -- was a huge risk and lent legitimacy to the project -- not unlike Marlon Brando's casting as Jor-El in SUPERMAN -- in a way that modern comic book movies don't have to fight for (with actors lining up to appear in a comic book movie nowadays). As brilliant as Ledger was -- and he truly was, superlatives don't do him justice -- Nicholson is still my favorite Joker because he was the first actor to give the character a scary malevolence that is inseparable from him now (Cesar Romero played him as mostly a flamboyant trickster in the TV series). This Joker truly was a homicidal maniac, but he was also still a comical clown. More recent interpretations have leaned more heavily on the homicidal part and less on the comical part. The scene where he gleefully shoots his boss again and again perfectly captures the character I think. The high-spirited waltz music playing on the soundtrack is, as I see it, what he hears in his head at that moment. You are right that it is a bizarre movie and you have astutely pointed out some flaws in the finished product such as it's very thin on story (although a lot of that is due to the writer strike that occurred at the time of production), but for me personally, it's still the best live-action Batman movie (although the sequel is, in some ways, better, but it's really more of a "Tim Burton film" than a "Batman film") with Michael Keaton's neurotic and eccentric --but still not too intense and angry as I feel Bale got on occasion -- portrayal being the best live action Batman/Bruce Wayne Part of that is nostalgia I admit as I was in my early teens when the film came out and I was just as enthralled by it as everyone else was, but also because it's more stylized, operatic, fantastic and imaginative approach to the material is, in my eyes, the best way to interpret the character and his world. There is always been sort of carnivalesque quality to Batman's rogue gallery of villains and a Grand Guignol element to the stories. Batman is, by the very nature of the whole conceit of the character, silly/ridiculous and the more "realistic," grounded and gritty they try to make him, the more it highlights that inherent absurdity in a not very flattering manner. I think Batman is best served by just committing to the weirdness. It also innovatively introduced many of the elements that have influenced all subsequent cinematic interpretations of Batman. Danny Elfman's signature "dark" score, for example, or the all-black Batman suit or Bruce speaking in two different voices depending on which identity ge is occupying at the moment (and for the record, Bale's Batman voice is ludicrous) are touches we see even today in Batman movies. Anyway, if you do decide to try the sequels, you should be warned that it's only going to get weirder from here on out (the next two are still worth seeing.. it's the fourth one I would skip). This is not your daddy's Batm... well, actually maybe it is your daddy's Batman. This is just not your Batman. :-)

Stick Figure Studios

2022-02-18 21:49:00 +0000 UTC

Kevin it bums me out after this reaction because I think you are right. If they did watch Superman, I feel they would just totally clown on it and not give Christopher Reeve a chance. He's so legendary, he is actual Superman. But I could see the sisters commenting on his tights the whole time. I hope they DON'T watch Superman. Or at least Cassie alone watches it. I think they would gang up on it if they were together.

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:46:11 +0000 UTC

Akin, agreed 100%! This was the actual birth of MODERN comic book films. However, 70s Superman is a timeless classic. Superman somehow is in a class all it's own.

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:43:22 +0000 UTC

@JC762 I agree, I do count Batman Returns as it's Keaton's last portrayal as Batman. Everything after that is garbage.

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:41:14 +0000 UTC

I kinda agree. BUT, like I said in my post above, I think they were spending too much time trying to compare it to the "Dark Knight" films. some of their comments confused me. Like they were wondering what was up with the Joker's henchmen, his hideout, etc.? But it's a comic book, Joker always had those things?

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:39:53 +0000 UTC

I think Cassie has recorded it, and she may have mentioned on IG that it's coming in early March or sooner.

Alex Villarreal

2022-02-18 21:33:53 +0000 UTC

You like what you like and don't like what you don't like. As long as you stay honest to your real options and reactions that's all any of us can as for :)

Cody Nelson

2022-02-18 21:33:50 +0000 UTC

Honestly, I said out loud three times, while watching this reaction, 'Are you going to actually watch the movie?' I don't think you actually gave it a chance.

Mr. Killeverything

2022-02-18 21:32:38 +0000 UTC

Just finished watching the full reaction, and it was definitely the most disappointing reaction in PiB history. Now before anyone attacks me, it's NOT Cassie or Carly's fault!!! First I had to double check I wasn't in an alternate universe: Rotten Tomatoes has this film at a critic score of 72% and an audience score of 84%. IMDB has it as 4 out of 5 stars. Not to mention my personal history of almost all my friends and family loving it. The problem is Cassie and Carly only know of the Christian Bale Batman. Not to mention they didn't even seem to realized there was a whole 1960s Batman (yet in the beginning they were trying go hum it's theme song). It's also clear they are not too aware of the comic book version of Batman (1939-present). Without knowing the comics or knowing the 1960s Batman, and only knowing Christian Bale's Batman (1st), I guess this is the reaction you'd expect. Without googling, name who scored the Bale Batman films? GO!!! Can't do it right? Exactly. Everyone knows Danny Elfman scored Batman 89. The music score alone is better than any other Batman film. Heck, Prince, one of the most popular music artists of all time made an album for this film. Keaton was the best Bruce Wayne and best Batman IMO (honorable mention to Ben Affleck, best "current" Batman). Best Batmobile. Best Alfred. Best depiction of Gotham City. And I know y'all come for me: best Joker. I know, Ledger did GREAT, but in this "Batman World" Jack Nicholson was best (also excluding cartoon Joker here Hamill fans). I guess the most depressing part is Batman Returns isn't going to get a reaction, but they are going to see the new Batman film? I mean Michael Keaton vs Robert Pattinson? Heck Pattinson vs any other Batman actor? This is the best Hollywood has to offer? Lastly I think I no longer want them to watch the original Superman with Christopher Reeve. Reeve is almost universally known as the one and only Superman. I couldn't bear seeing it get this type of treatment.

Todzilla

2022-02-18 21:30:06 +0000 UTC

The next three Batman movies are quite a slide downhill from this one. I suppose that's just an opinion but I think most would agree.

JC762

2022-02-18 21:17:04 +0000 UTC

I enjoyed this but for me Batman Returns is the peak of all Batman movies. I am however really looking forward to the new one.

Lee Porteous

2022-02-18 21:11:58 +0000 UTC

Same. I think I’ll wait for the YouTube edit on this one.

Robert da Spruce

2022-02-18 21:08:47 +0000 UTC

I wouldn't say nostalgia was a factor in my continued enjoyment of this movie - just that, back then, in 1989, no one had ever done anything even close to it before AFAIK. This was the first of the "modern" superhero movies to come to the big screen, so I guess there is more of a respect factor for the innovation and for all the risks being taken. In fact, I think it's fair to say that pretty much everything that followed in this genre, including all of the Marvel franchise, has copied it (in some way).

ArsTropica

2022-02-18 20:58:18 +0000 UTC

I will say that it would be tough watching the most recent trilogy and then going back to this film. I was 14 when this came out, not much of a comic book fan but I was familiar with the very campy 1960s Batman with Adam West. I wore this VHS tape out watching it so much I knew nearly all the dialogue by heart. After the success of the Superman series of films in the 80s, which were campy in a lot of ways (I imagine Cassie would find parts of the original Superman film just too campy, as well) this was an attempt to make it comic booky but more dark than people were used to then for the live action character.

Kevin M. Pitts

2022-02-18 20:42:49 +0000 UTC

I'm going out on limb for a St. Patrick's Day film, (Drum roll please). "Darby O'Gill and the Little People". -Sir James

james flack

2022-02-18 20:26:48 +0000 UTC

I have to say, I only sort of cared for it at the time; and when I saw it years later I did not think the years had been kind to it.

Henry Fitzgerald

2022-02-18 20:21:24 +0000 UTC

I didn't like the Adam West Batman series, but I did watch it - Tim Burton's Batman movies are still my favorites.

Rue

2022-02-18 20:19:49 +0000 UTC

Batman and Robin is not a hot mess. It is a "frozen" wasteland. We should however "chill" with the comments about B & R, it may leave Cassie and Carly "frosty" to watching the movie. See what I am doing here? 😄

Brian McGovern

2022-02-18 20:19:13 +0000 UTC

it was a bad movie when it came out, it's still a bad movie. It was more based on the 60's TV series than anything else and was nostalgic for people who watched that.

William

2022-02-18 20:16:55 +0000 UTC

Imagine seeing the Star Wars Prequels first and then watching the Original Trilogy with no context for when they were made, and that's sort of like watching the MCU and Dark Knight Trilogy and THEN going back to this era... it's about the same as when I watched Batman 89 and then went back and watched the Adam West stuff which I had a very similar reaction to the one Cassie and Carly had. So it's understandable in that regard.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 20:12:51 +0000 UTC

I would love to see her reaction to IMO Tim Burton's must-watch films: Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, and Big Fish.

G

2022-02-18 20:08:00 +0000 UTC

no worries , it was a big deal in 1989 , but it did not stand the test of time as far as comic book adaption movies .

Mike Lipke

2022-02-18 20:07:13 +0000 UTC

Shame you didn't like it too much, but I hear ya. I'm gonna wait for the YouTube edit of this one myself. That being said, when I first saw this as a kid, I thought the quick sword fight where Batman blocks the guys strikes with his forearms and shins was the COOLEST THING I'D EVER SEEN BEFORE IN MY LIFE!! ;)

Uncle 'Traveling' Matt

2022-02-18 20:02:37 +0000 UTC

Yeahhhh, don't get too excited.

David Crabtree

2022-02-18 20:02:21 +0000 UTC

So far, the Shining, Beetlejuice, The Apartment, Pulp Fiction, Fury, and Batman (1989) are not Cassie's cup of tea. Still pretty interesting reactions. I guess that's why we are all here to support her.

G

2022-02-18 20:02:18 +0000 UTC

YAY!!! My 2 favorite ladies watching one of my favorite movies!!!

Bryan Harris

2022-02-18 20:01:56 +0000 UTC

Haven't seen Burton's Batmans in years but I've always liked them. I'd take them over the Dark Knight trilogy every day of the week. It's probably nostalgia, this is the first film I remember seeing in the cinema and I was crazy about it. Batman is the only superhero I ever had any interest in, even as a kid I thought Superman, X-men etc. were naff (I never saw West's Batman as a kid). But this was different and my 5-6 year old self lapped it up. For me, Tim Burton is very hit and miss, more miss than hit actually (I'm sure it's been mentioned but you would love 'Big Fish', it's probably the last Burton film I really enjoyed). But I think his whole aesthetic is perfect for Batman. Shame yous didn't like it but I'm looking forward to watching it again. Also, Paddy's Day is on the horizon. Can we get an Irish movie poll? My vote would be The Commitments:)

Jay

2022-02-18 19:58:08 +0000 UTC

I have to say I did kind of enjoy how this reaction became an episode of Cinema Sins, or Honest Trailers, 😂

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 19:56:06 +0000 UTC

So when are we getting the George Clooney Batman reaction? 😂 That one is a hot mess. No other way I can really describe it.

Josh Phillips

2022-02-18 19:52:25 +0000 UTC

Retracted

james flack

2022-02-18 19:50:15 +0000 UTC

Arugula!

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 19:49:46 +0000 UTC

It's a generational thing. It was similar to Cassie's Star Wars reaction ... if you're not expecting it, then it can feel cheesy - the cheesiness of Burton's filmmaking style is NOT for everyone. I still respected the reaction because it was honest. Let's see how they react to Batman Returns now that they have a baseline... buuuuut, look, not everyone is going to LOVE Tim Burton, and that's okay.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 19:49:20 +0000 UTC

It's definitely understandable though. Like watching old Twilight Zone episodes, and even Hitchcock in the 50s and 60s... there's a LOT of camp in Hitchcock that you just have to understand is part of the era. In fact, the climax of Batman 89 directly references BOTH Vertigo and North by Northwest.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 19:45:34 +0000 UTC

Good question about Superhero movies, was this the first... there's Batman 66 which is SUPER campy, and in comparison, Batman 89 felt like Nolan Batman. Superman came in 1978 and that was considered the first really good superhero movie. Superman II was also considered good. But they're also both campy. Superman III and IV jumped the shark. Burton Batman was the next superhero movie that was considered good, and its sequel Batman Returns is also well regarded, but Forever and Batman & Robin again jumped the shark. This is kind of a common formula where X-Men and X2 are beloved and Last Stand and Wolverine Origins to a lesser degree before being rebooted with First Class and ultimately integrated. Spider-Man 1 & 2 were considered great. Spider-Man 3, not so much and ultimately its 4th installment became the rebooted Garfield films. 2008 was the TRUE turning point of comic book cinema with The Dark Knight and Iron Man. I think sometimes it IS important though to know what year a movie was made before you watch it. You don't really need to usually know anything else, but the YEAR is probably going to help set your expectations for tone and visual effects.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 19:40:23 +0000 UTC

Any word on when Rocky IV will happen?

Michael Lynch

2022-02-18 19:40:18 +0000 UTC

Never ever, say or pretend you like a movie when you don’t. That’s a sure way to destroy this channel.

Björn Von Knorring

2022-02-18 19:36:29 +0000 UTC

As others have mentioned, I think had you started with older superhero movies such as Superman (1979) and this version of Batman you'd appreciate them more. There's such a huge difference in quality due to the films being taken more seriously and what they can do with special effects now that it's not really fair to the older movies. Even X-Men which came out around 2000 is very dated compared to the movies that came out 10-15 years later. But to someone who started out with the 1979 Superman and campy TV shows like The Hulk and Wonder Woman in the 70s and 80s, that X-Men movie was an incredible step forward. So I hope that's something you will keep in mind.

JayF

2022-02-18 19:36:19 +0000 UTC

Wow, I could only make it through 45 minutes of this reaction. Obviously, all movies are subjective, but you two came off as just condescending and obnoxious in your reaction to this film.

David Crabtree

2022-02-18 19:33:45 +0000 UTC

Although I grew up with this Batman, and it was truly a treat to watch back then as it was pretty innovative, I wholeheartedly understand it's not for everyone. Especially if you watch it today for the first time. I think it's much more preferable that you give us your honest opinion instead of just pretending to like something. So I am actually happy you give us a genuine reaction. If you don't particularly like certain movies, I have no problem with that at all. We can't like everything, that's crazy :D There are movies that I don't particularly prefer to watch, but many might and I think that's wonderful. Keep reacting and thank you so so much for posting and creating content. PS: Not sure if this is something you have seen or if it has already been recommended, but I would maybe suggest "The Bourne Identity" with Matt Damon and Franka Potente.

Sindre Kristiansen

2022-02-18 19:30:15 +0000 UTC

Carly... "Ar Yugle" kidding me? lol, you are too funny. Ra's Al Ghul is now Ar Yugle. Moving on.

Erik Daniel

2022-02-18 19:26:10 +0000 UTC

I 2nd this idea

Jon Johns

2022-02-18 19:16:34 +0000 UTC

Too bad it didn't click with them. But one of the things I love about them both is that the great time had watching a movie, is not dependent on how well the movie is received. It's the company. Take Unforgiven, one of my favorites...not so much for Cassie lol, but I still had a great time.

Erik Daniel

2022-02-18 19:12:06 +0000 UTC

Fun fact: my parents went and saw the '89 Batman in theatres and got my brother and me a babysitter. After the movie it was storming and my dad got struck by lighting as they got to the car. How he's still alive is beyond me. True story. 🙋‍♂️

William Bryan

2022-02-18 19:09:54 +0000 UTC

Just seen a great YT video about how Warner created the hype around this movie utilizing all branches of entertainment they acquired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMXwmU3T74

Gábor Árki

2022-02-18 19:06:04 +0000 UTC

I'll tell you one Joker that I don't think gets enough credit and that's Cameron Monaghan from the Gotham TV series. He absolutely killed that role, both as Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska.

William Bryan

2022-02-18 19:00:26 +0000 UTC

I have vivid memories of seeing this movie the first time. It was sometime in the early '90s, I was around 8-9 at the time. We were visiting my uncle who had cable TV and HBO which I think was relatively new in the country back then. I loved it and was glued to the screen. My parents couldn't put me to sleep because I wanted to watch the whole thing. I also remember liking it when watching all 4 movies sometime during the early 2000s after they had been released on DVD (only the first one though, Returns I always had problems with not to mention the two from Schumacher). But when I did try to watch it a couple years after Nolan's trilogy it just didn't work anymore. Somehow it didn't age well for me. One thing I can really appreciate up to this day is Danny Elfman's amazing score.

Gábor Árki

2022-02-18 19:00:18 +0000 UTC

For those of us who grew up with Adam West as Batman…Batman 1989 was a miracle.

Wade Watts

2022-02-18 18:59:29 +0000 UTC

No need to apologize for not liking something Cassie. That’s what everyone is here for. Your honest reactions. Knowing you guys didn’t love it does put a slight damper on watching it though. But it would be worse if you pretended to enjoy something because it’s what you thought everyone wanted to hear. Personally, I’m waiting for your Rocky IV reaction! 😀 Have a great day!

Robert da Spruce

2022-02-18 18:58:13 +0000 UTC

This one ends up out of the running for next year's POPpies - might I suggest the Burnt POPpies for the bad ones?

Dave

2022-02-18 18:56:34 +0000 UTC

Movies like this didn't exist before this movie. The marketing blitz for this film was unlike anything that had ever been seen before. In 1989 Batman was everywhere. On every billboard, Tshirt, and kids meal in the land. That sort of thing is normal now but it's normal now because of Batman. Burton is a spooky cartoon of a man, and he makes movies that reflect that, and though I love his Batman, he's best when playing in his own sandbox. That said, his style of storytelling may just not be for you. As for Michael Keaton, please see Mr Mom, Gung Ho, Multiplicity, Johnny Dangerously (in that order), and then after watching those and Batman Returns, watch Alejandro Iñárritu's "Birdman, or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance)" .

Godzilla Jones

2022-02-18 18:56:02 +0000 UTC

wish we weren't told how you feel about before we watch it with you. kind of deflates me before i watch it. thanks

Gideon James

2022-02-18 18:48:52 +0000 UTC

Oh this is going to be fun. To be honest, I think this movie is enjoyed mostly on a nostalgia level, for me at least. I was a kid, the VHS with the snap case got played more than most, and at the time it was really something special. But with the cinematic 'Batman Universe' progressing as well as the public's idea of Batman changing, it does make it hard to take a step back. Before this it was the Batman tv series and that's it. So you have Jack doing his best Cesar Romero impression, Tim Burton doing his thing, and for 1989 it was pretty sweet. Now nostalgia does force me to love this movie lol, but I get it. Going from the t.v. series to this? Awesome. Going from Nolan's films (among others) to this? that's tough. Hey as long as you dig the Prince music we're cool lol. Alright here we go, another comment of trivia coming....oh man I just remembered Kim Basinger screams almost as much as Willie Scott in Temple of Doom, though not annoying like her. Still must prepare.... p.s. we'll see if you touch on this but if you want to, of course watch them all but as far as required viewing for the new Batman, it's not required lol. I think what I said about Batman (89) being liked mostly on a nostalgia level can be applied to the rest, IMO. All up to Batman Forever, which is ONLY held together by nostalgia. Batman and Robin? I don't even know what the H that is.

Erik Daniel

2022-02-18 18:47:38 +0000 UTC

Ahhhhh that’s a very interesting take!! Separating Batman from Wayne!!! And now that you’ve made me think about it….I agree 100%!!! Bale and Keaton are both phenomenal actors. But yes Keaton is by FAR the best Bruce Wayne. And I guess Bale the best Batman for me. Love Keaton. Hate that Cassie’s main exposure so far to him has been crazy Tim Burton films. Even though I love him in both…I can see why younger generations views would not

Krusty “Topher”

2022-02-18 18:43:27 +0000 UTC

Curious what you'll think of the considerably sillier sequels Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.

Tringard

2022-02-18 18:41:40 +0000 UTC

Keaton is not my favorite Batman but a close second. However, he is my favorite Bruce Wayne by a country mile. And yes, Nicholson is still my favorite Joker. The movie is very comic-booky, so I guess if you haven't read Batman comic books, are not nostalgic about 80s movies and Tim Burton's style, this is a tough watch, I guess.

RX2904

2022-02-18 18:32:20 +0000 UTC

Cassie you and Carly need to see Joker. That'll give you a whole new perspective on that villain.

William Bryan

2022-02-18 18:31:21 +0000 UTC

Nicholson is my second least favorite Joker honestly.

Yaisu

2022-02-18 18:31:06 +0000 UTC

What people fail to realize is the original Batman with Nicholson was closer to the comic book than The Dark Knight.

William Bryan

2022-02-18 18:30:20 +0000 UTC

You don't need to watch anything else before The Batman comes out , but worth checking out Batman Returns before The Flash comes out, but maybe not as Burton is just not your cup of tea, and that's totally fine - there are actually 4 Batman films from this era and if you think this was bad, you have no idea... Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are both guilty pleasure bad movies at best. Definitely would compare Burton Batman to Raimi Spider-Man. That's a good comp. But Burton just WAY more stylized.

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 18:25:08 +0000 UTC

The first movie is more in keeping with the comics. The 2nd is more a Tim Burton Batman in that it gets really dark and uber weird. 3 and 4 became more in keeping with the Adam West Batman which was really camp, but not as enjoyable. The Nolan trilogy was more grounding Batman in reality.

Brian McGovern

2022-02-18 18:24:31 +0000 UTC

Maybe a trend? She's not liking Michael Keaton or Tim Burton. It stings a little, not going to lie. Keaton was my favorite Batman. I'm going to watch this full length reaction and comeback to this post to add more to the conversation.

Todzilla

2022-02-18 18:22:13 +0000 UTC

For people of my generation, it was one of the first (along with Christopher Reeve’s Superman) comic book films brought to screen, so it carries a certain inherent nostalgia. But the Christopher Nolan films are more accurate to the comics, so they tend to be preferred. (Though I do prefer Michelle Pfeiffer’s Catwoman in “Batman Returns” to most any other version of that character.)

Mr Trick

2022-02-18 18:21:07 +0000 UTC

Sleepy Hallow for sure. Hopefully around Halloween 🤞🎃

Todzilla

2022-02-18 18:19:35 +0000 UTC

I remember really liking this movie when it first came out, but my opinion of it has definitely gone down over the years. Everyone thought Nicholson's Joker was soooo cool, but I think it was just because Tim Burton someone got Jack freakin' Nicholson to play him. Don't feel bad about your reaction to it, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Patrick Egan

2022-02-18 18:18:47 +0000 UTC

I love the original Batman. I guess it’s not for everyone but I grew up with it so I enjoy it. You like what you like and nothing wrong with that. But be prepared you will probably get backlash on YouTube for not liking it. It’s many people favorite Batman movie. So just a forewarning lol

Brooke Atkins

2022-02-18 18:16:05 +0000 UTC

That's totally understandable. Maybe next Christmas you can watch BATMAN RETURNS and let us know if THAT is a Christmas movie or not, like DIE HARD. For me, this WAS my introduction to live action BATMAN. It is definitely more of a stylized take on Batman versus the grounded reality of the Nolan Batman films, and even the MCU and current DCEU, which are fantastical, but grounded. This is like a Matisse compared to a Richard Estes. I'm excited to watch along with y'all nonetheless!

Jason Dolan

2022-02-18 18:15:28 +0000 UTC

This was start of the original Batman film series, which includes Batman Returns and debatably Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (those latter 2 definitely go together but they don't really connect with the first 2). Keep in mind with all of these, and some of their contemporaries, was before comic book movies had a major upgrade in quality. As a result these movies are very hokey, though some have their charm, especially this and the next one. However, as far as being good movies go the Dark Knight trilogy easily beats out these first 4 films.

Joshua Beltran

2022-02-18 18:14:33 +0000 UTC

We're 0 for 2 on Tim Burton movies, gang. I think Cassie needs to see some young Johnny Depp/Winona Ryder/Christina Ricci movies like Edward Scissorhands or Sleepy Hollow.

Alex Villarreal

2022-02-18 18:14:12 +0000 UTC

Yep. Seeing The Dark Knight first clouded your judgment. I knew it would. I saw the original Batman in like 1990 and loved it. I had seen the original Batman dozens of times before Batman Begins was even in pre production lol

William Bryan

2022-02-18 18:13:42 +0000 UTC

Michael Keaton did a great job in these films. While there are many different batmans, Keaton set off the modern era. ( think you would have a great time w the 66 Adam West film lol) Jack Nicholson had a great version of the Joker too :)

GamerGal8684

2022-02-18 18:13:41 +0000 UTC

I saw this movie in theaters with my brother and Mom in 1989. I was 8 at the time. It was my first experience with Batman. It had quite the effect on me as you can imagine.

JediLounger

2022-02-18 18:13:29 +0000 UTC

Oh boy are you in for a "treat" with the rest of them. They get progressively worse. I loved the 1st one, but I can see younger people who were born in the 90's not enjoying as much.

Brian McGovern

2022-02-18 18:12:15 +0000 UTC

No worries, you can’t be forced to like something! You like what you like. I thought it was just ok myself😊

Cole Jennett

2022-02-18 18:10:43 +0000 UTC

Batman (1989) - Full Reaction

Comments

I don't mind you guys being so harsh on it, even tho i don't think it's objectively bad myself, cos you guys aren't into intentionally over the top cheesy movies AND like you say, you aren't movie critics so being so harsh lends some honesty to the reaction word.

Dang...that was brutal. Lol. You must've at least liked the score? Jack Nicholson's performance? The sets? The darkness? Anything?

Cassie and Carly's reaction to the Batmobile was worth it and even the camera jumped at 1:24:00 approx.

This movie definitely hasn't aged well but at its time it was something fresh and different, especially for comic book adaptations which were almost non-existent.

Ha wow I understand why you didn't post this one to YouTube!

You do know this was written and filmed during a writers strike... right?!

It's on her channel. (Superman 1978)

Cassie was right......and this movie is highly over-rated

This hurts my heart.

Not gonna lie. This hurt. Feels like you were bashing part of my childhood making fun of this movie. P.s. boomboxes were the shit at the time. 😁

Your opinion of the movie is valid, but trust me when I say yours and other commenters opinion is in the minority.

Yeah this one never connected much with me either. I highly recommend checking out Man of Steel in the future. I think it's one you would like.

put it in the poopy awards category next year. You should really watch the George Clooney one, even if it's for the bat nipples.

I love this movie and saw it in the theater but perfection is a really far stretch.

This movie is perfection.....sigh

Snooozzzzze.. Even Carly was yawning..

Roger Ebert's review of Batman from 1989: https://youtu.be/hT6dRjhkT9g?t=298 Might explain a lot... 😉

You need a pallet cleanser after that. I'm not sure how I thoroughly enjoyed this movie in 1989. Now it's barely watchable. I suggest Superman 1978.

Watchmen (2009), created 20 years later, is the style of film that Batman 89 was aiming at. It would be great if one day, Cassie & Carly review it, and then compare both films.

I liked Batman Returns over the first Batman. Batman Forever has a completely different feel from the first 2 since its by a different director. Still think they should be given a chance to be watched once and never again. So you could say you've seen it atleast.

Should have watched the '66 movie first. If you remember that's the image most people had of Batman when they saw the Burton film it's easier to understand why it was a big deal.

I wish there was a way to "dislike" a comment.

Carrey was The Riddler in Batman Forever.

Who even suggested this crap? I enjoyed watching you both hate this movie as much as I do. You made the right decision to pass on the rest of the old ones. They only get progressively worse and more ridiculous.

First.

🤣🤣

This is now the most commented post on Patreon beating the previous record of 549 comments for the Suspense movie suggestion post. Congratulations everyone!

Haha

Agreed

Now that’s funny!

This comment section by itself is worth my Patreon fee for the month.

I think Eastwood would love her reaction. The take she had on the film and her thoughts on it even if she didn't like the movie are of the kind the director was going for with Unforgiven. That is my feeling anyway.

So this was fun. Still, it is to Cassie’s credit as the No. 1 Reactionista, that just one video could inspire a legion of fans ready to toss their batarangs into Boston harbor.

She had said she was taking a couple days off. So if there was ever a great time to ignore her social media and miss some comments ….this would be it!🤣🤣

I long for the days of calming and soothing western polls

Also .... we have to ease her into twinkies. Let's start with a piece of bread with frosting on it

How appropriate! Congratulations you long time supporter! I appreciate you!

Feel better now?

Batman movies always get people talking.

That crack about them hiring a model instead of an actress regarding the Vicki Vale character, actress Kim Basinger only has almost 60 acting credits, and is an Academy Award winning actress. But sure, she's just a pretty model.

500th! Ha

Well, they didn't like that movie. I guess you had to have been there in the 80's to get it.

Like Mystery Science 3000, which by the way I have been avoiding for now. However someday I'm going to drop that Cassie, needs to "react" to their reaction. LOL

Ah, I see.

Not all of the patrons have access to the full length reactions.

Gina! I loved princes soundtrack, too! What did you think of the girls reaction?

next Thursday I believe is Rocky 4 on Patreon.

Few of the comments are feisty. Please Cassie, EASE THEIR PAIN (in Field of Dreams ghostly voice). Release the Rocky 4 reaction.

Hudson Hawk is a terribly underrated action comedy film.

There was a writers strike at the time.

I still think "Batman Returns" would be a good watch for them.

I don't know... I think they might appreciate "Batman Returns" more.

Daniel Waters (the screenwriter of HEATHERS, DEMOLITION MAN, HUDSON HAWK and BATMAN RETURNS) once described Nolan's Batman movies as the "prose to Burton's poetry." I've never really heard a more apt description of the difference between the two.

Well said.

I still love this movie, but it definitely is a case of style over substance. It's got a very Fritz Lang, German expressionist flavor that they doubled down on in the sequel (which is worth a watch, although it's significantly weirder.) And yes, it's supposed to be cheesy and funny.

At least with that movie nobody could give them crap for their opinions.😎

I think you're mischaracterizing Cassie and Carly's reaction based on a few of the comments here, while ignoring the many comments that have said they don't think their reaction was as bad as all that. That's the only reason I would suggest maybe watching it for yourself, but of course you do you!

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I think Nicholson gets profits from every Batman related project, including Matt Reeves' Batman, Joaquin's Joker and every DCEU movie featuring Batman or Joker.

Have you seen GOOD TIME or THE LIGHTHOUSE?

Danny Elfman’s score is legendary.

Batman is Amazing, This is by far one of my favorite Batman. i hope twilight Boy won't make the same mistake George Clooney did.

Agreed. Batman Returns was much better than Batman imo.

I'm waiting to see how the Great Debate of the Star Wars Sequel trilogy will go. The servers might not be able to handle it lol j/k 😄😬🤯

Nice job lol, hope you didn't go cross-eyed 😅

HBO launched on cable systems in 1972, so was well aged by the early 90's.

I like the idea that we should do a in-theater Batman and Robin viewing, so all of us can have fun roasting that stinker!

Indeed, especially when one relies on the nostalgia factor from childhood rather than judging a movie in its own merits.

To quote the great philosopher Ricky Nelson, "It's alright now, I learned my lesson well, you can't please everyone so you have got to please yourself."

Amen. It doesn't seem that difficult.

I did it! I got through all the comments! Phew! That was tough guys, but i knew the masochist in me would get me to the finish line. Yay. now I'll reward myself with actually watching the reaction.😋

I believe its' "is not." I could be wrong though its been a long time since high school French.

Oh, and I forgot: Cassie! Gesundheit! Twice!

I can understand why this didn't connect with you, but I'm one of the oldies that really loves the way Keaton plays him - as the real but flawed human being that he is.

If you’ve made it through all the comments, you deserve an award.

It probably had something to do with being with someone else to bounce things off of. Maybe she gives it another chance in the future, just chalk it up to an oh well.

That was interesting, much appreciated

OMG! I just remembered something. Michael Keaton is reprising his role as Batman in the upcoming FLASH movie. I vote the ladies do a live theater reaction.