September 23

Fanbox

Saul MacPherson

They were using it for some kind of VIP services from what I understand; I heard about it from a friend at work who uses it more than I do.

Rhaksas

So F-list was just using Patreon for access to their site?

Mark G

That's a good point. I wonder if it would be against Patreon's upcoming stance/policy if you're just selling access to something (like a Discord server channel), rather than the actual thing (raw files on here). You can already control Discord permissions depending on Patreon tiers.

Mark G

Pixiv fan box.

Ty

subscribestar, you don't have to worry about censors and it has discord integration(if you decide to use one in the future).

Aurkus23

Fanbox

Burbaz

Any pressure from the NSFW community would be outweighed by the pressure from the foundational nature of the pressure of e-money handlers. If the actual money exchangers pull the plug, the entire website is dead. It's wishful thinking, but it's always worth a shot, is why Im discussing alternatives now.

Snao

If Patreon goes under, pixiv is probably the best alternative.

Mecha Kaiju X

I can do both

Lods E. Mone

I'm fine with either, I haven't tried subscribestar, but I have used pixiv fanbox and it's pretty much the same thing as patreon. Artists who I subscribe to there who upload uncensored genitals usually slap them inside zips in PDS/GIMP format, or host them on MEGAs as a workaround. If that seems like too much of a hassle for you then subscribestar might work better.

Sebas

I'm also worried about Pixiv as they already have censorship rules, but apparently they're never enforced. I think Subscribestar would be fine, though I haven't messed with it yet. Either way, I hope this pressure backfires and blows up in their faces.

J S

Thank you, this is particularly valuable feedback, as I haven't made the time to look more deeply into either yet.

Snao

Personally I would be fine with both. But be aware that you cannot subscribe on Subscribestar with Paypal, you basically need a credit card. Not everyone has one. Pixiv offers more payment options and is generally really easy to navigate as well.

MrFluschel

I'm fine with either, as long you're okai mang!

Happy Potato

Pixiv

98Sparkz

Less clutter on my phone i'd say x3 if it has to happen, i just hope for an archive of the goods x3

Theeiw'kol

I appreciate the update. I'd say I like Fanbox the best, but either is fine really

fwocvr

I can't blame you for that, snake oil salesmen abound in the crypto space; just a couple days ago a new Dapp on Solana did a rug pull for $6.7m and now Sol is stuck trying to pay back all the investors.

Rhaksas

Subscribestar probably although I have Pixiv Fanbox account also so to me personally it's no big hassle for either.

Straw

Subscribestar feels pretty similar to patreon for a subscriber compared to pixiv fanbox, it feels nicer to use. Though the ultimate move is to have both!

Talaria

Ya, it's a national law. People use offsite hosting (dbox / gdrive / mega) to get around that apparently.

Snao

Does pixiv fanbox require mosaic images as well? I've only got a regular pixiv so idk if fanbox is any different

gh0st

I have Pixiv Fanbox so I'd say that, but could follow you to SS, see how it goes.

budthespud

It might be for the best to go this route.

Snao

Arguably, if you're willing to deal with the hassle of double uploading, going with both would allow the option for people who have accounts on either or to support you without having to weigh the cost/benefits of making a new account on a different platform?

Leonardo Luis

SubscribeStar or a discord

Reiku Yin

Pixiv Fanbox is kind of a pain to use, I'd prefer SubscribeStar.

Begemott

I'd prefer Subscribestar cuz Pixiv is too Japanese centric

Pixiv Fanbox, if only because I already have an account for it so it would be easier for me.

Samuel Albert Mell

Subscribestar all the way, much better than pixiv fanbox

Vanessa Faye

I have a SubscribeStar and at least functionality-wise I'm pretty happy with it so far. I'd love to give you a referral link if you sign up, if you would be assenting to that.

Setsune Wave

I think I'd prefer subscribestar.

Stelard Actek

I have zero interest in involving myself and this community in NFT startups. Far too risky, and even the original NFT network was basically a pump'n'dump scam. I expect all the startups to follow similar altcoin trends.

Snao

Can't say I'm surprised, I had heard a rumour before the OnlyFans nonsense that Patreon tried to enforce their own TOS on the F-list website (as F-list was using this for a membership system) and it went about as well as you would expect. I already have a presence on SubscribeStar but I'll follow wherever you go. On a side note, cumrocket.io is really trying to capitalize on these shenanigans, it'll be interesting to see how that goes.

Rhaksas

This *might* change due to me getting financially pressured by exchange rate fees. I don't know yet. I'm sorry for having to be honest about this, but it's definitely a possible factor.

Snao

I currently am using FanBox for a few folks. Don't have a SubscribeStar, but I can make an account.

Malhavoc

I'd vote for Fanbox if only they didn't force to censor everything and forbid linking to uncensored content. So Subscribestar I guess?

Nora

I think discord is the best course of action. Just make a server that only your patrons have access to and post your arts there

brossette

God I wish I could say Comradery but they are in alpha and they are quite frank about not wanting to do the “let porn on to grow until we are big enough to get noticed by payment processors” dance.

Margaret Trauth

I have before when it was originally announced, their NSFW policy was dead on arrival, and I am not interested in it after it already took that stance even if they changed since then. I would only use them as a last resort because of their original NSFW stance was justified by their banking/billing concerns.

Snao

I prefer Fbox since a lot of (especially asian) creators I follow have accounts on Pixiv and PayPal payouts are available (and a bigger presence on Pixiv could be beneficial to you regardless). If you choose this platform though, you'll have to place the uncensored content on links outside of the website (I recommend MEGA or Google Drive) and censor the images uploaded to the platform itself.

Actual Bastard

Fanbox is easy, 'cause it just uses your Pixiv account. But I could always make a Subscribestar account, I know I've put it off long enough.

Ore wa Sutandoda dai o!

Subscribestar for sure.

Pyrohawk

I'd say Subscribestar like the others. I'd prefer to have uncensored art if at all possible.

Shinyuu

I use fanbox for Sinensian, it's pretty simple

chayse

Subscribestar

NexyB

gonna vote subscribestar also, if you dont wanna make a text only post, scribble some tiddies on a napkin, caption it with "read and vote" and we will all click the link

zot171

Check out Comradery, it's a co-op so if you join as a creator, you get a direct stake in sitewide management, though it's still in alpha

Mecka Doyle

Subscribestar. Its less worse than having to censor because japananse are silly with their censor

RachelTGG

I use Fanbox already with no problems, but whichever fits your content/needs the best, I’ll make the move.

Dwhoot

id go star, just cause pixiv follows japanese censorship law

BittyByte

Whichever works best is good by me. Just provide info and instructions as necessary and I will follow. 👍

MinionOfGruumsh

Subscribestar is a platform by assholes, for assholes, but I find it preferable to the platform that's going to require you to censor your work, by law.

aabsurdity

Either one but Subscribe star would be a better choice

Riley Renamon

Subscribestar definitely

Nightofknights

Subsceibestar

Karkat Vanta

Fanbox please

Ranmori

subscribestar would be prefered because pixiv has to follow japan's censorship laws.

Kalebon

Fanbox provided there's way to get uncensored files

Lyssa

Could show censored versions on Fanbox and have a link to a password-protected uncensored Dropbox archive?

MrSkeltal

Fanbox, personally speaking.

MAXXimizer

Fanbox, but remember at they're following Japan's standards/Take of "mature" content.

Jvasskicker

I use Fanbox; can't speak to what it's like for creators, but it's fine thus far as a subscriber and seems to be a lot farther removed from the clutches of the Dominionist Right and their captured financial processors

MrSkeltal

I think if you go the fanbox route you will have to censor all the dongs as they aren't allowed I believe. I think subscribestar also allows people to pay dates be the day they joined each month so I don't know how that would effect you income plans. I don't know if you can change that.

AidoHwedo

I have only fallowed others on Subscribestar, But I'm fine with which ever one is best for the creator.

KaikuPen

Can someone clarify Pixiv Fandom? Or is it literally the same as patreon?

Calvin Nasberg

Personally I have used pixiv fanbox and feel it’s UI works pretty well. Don’t have much if an opinion on subscribestar though.

Faelan Fenris

Pixiv fanbox!

Citrus34

probably fanbox, most people I follow are on Pixiv. Fucking wack though

Chan

Shit as long as its still a dollar I'll go anywhere

*JOESTAR*