What does 'Permeated tissues' Even mean?
Added 2024-12-19 16:44:20 +0000 UTCSo I wasn't even sure myself what this would do for Mason. I'm dabbling with a handful of ideas, and was wondering what you guys thought was cool.
regardless of which one we pick, his skin is going to take on a faint mother-of-pearl look.
#1 Large bonus to physical power. Since resistance is a multiplier of your base toughness, this effect will raise his base toughness, making him naturally inhumanly tough/strong. This option is kind of basic, but reliable.
#2 Hollow man. Similar to how the pearls work, his inner organs are going to continuously shrink, being tucked away in extradimensional space, until eventually he is completely hollow, and very difficult to kill.
#3 shield-HP. Mason's physical body becomes more shield than flesh, becomes much more durable, and can be repaired simply by gaining shield power.
#4 Magical conduit: Mason's physical form has become more Charge-conducive, making his spells more powerful. Basically, his body is turning into a potent magical catalyst, a bit like unicorn horn. Will NOT make him more durable.
Of course, suggestions welcome below if they're better than mine.
Comments
Imagine Loth storing billions on billions of insects inside the Mason-tardis
Imagine Baggins
2025-01-10 23:22:18 +0000 UTCBecoming an ablative layer set.
Andrew Tobin
2025-01-08 07:26:24 +0000 UTCHe would be “hollow knight “ so to speak :)
Carter Schonwald
2024-12-21 17:43:55 +0000 UTCSee I like the idea that the organs themselves become hollow. Like if you cut him open you'd see all the right things on all the right places, but if you cut THOSE open you'd be like, WTF is this hellish void I have opened?
Jeff Wells
2024-12-21 08:01:40 +0000 UTCWe could get weird with it... Nacre is basically a biological plastic, plastic can be melted and reformed (thermoplastic)...
Adam Roundfield
2024-12-20 13:33:15 +0000 UTCHollow man is the coolest, but his other organs like skin and eyes should also gain some slight physical resistance. Also what if there was an upgrade that improved this drastically, but made his senses get worse as the bonus increases?
bbwhistler@outlook.com
2024-12-20 13:13:26 +0000 UTCHollow man but eventually the exposure to dimensional energy has to do something, just like the items do.
Stephen E Wilson Jr.
2024-12-20 05:59:21 +0000 UTCI like hollow man, personally. Maybe after his body is completely hollow, the nacre starts building dimensional layers. Each layer provides another shell and one or more additional charge. Thus increasing both offense and defense.
Alex Wicker
2024-12-20 03:54:56 +0000 UTCI suggested in the discord something similar to magical conduit but carapace falls off his skin and shatters when he casts spells, allowing him to spend Nacre buildup as a resource, and providing an interesting magical material that Loth can use in crafting
Thomas Issa
2024-12-20 01:51:13 +0000 UTCMaybe bones. Idk I feel it has to build up from without to within
RedInkQuill
2024-12-20 01:11:17 +0000 UTCI mean, Hollow man sounds cool and unique enough (Hollow Lord), especially if he could later get a sacrifice that could let him fill up this hollow inside with something. Fire is an easy idea for that, but don't know how useful it is to have fire pouring out of you every time you get damage that gets through the shell. Of course, this hollowness could even remain so and that if Mason swallows an relic it gets stored just like his organs but he can get it back out. Or that like with magical conduit, with another sacrifice or so, store charge in his hollow
Aloysius
2024-12-19 23:46:35 +0000 UTCI was thinking of a dimension pocket for each cell that contained armoring material that would extend to protect each cell whenever damage was imminent. Also link with the surrounding cells to prevent penetration.
WanderingArchitect
2024-12-19 21:51:30 +0000 UTCTissues should be everything except bones
RedInkQuill
2024-12-19 20:08:25 +0000 UTCI like Hollow Man except for those organs on the outside of the body. I'm thinking eyes, ears and tongue. He would loose those senses? How about the nacre builds up over his skin, he can bring the armour into existence from dimensional powers around fim, occupying the same space? ... Kinda ok, kinda naff. Nah, keep with the original idea. Novelty powers - the sensory powers of an oyster - can sense currents and the makeup of the land and oceans that the waters have travelled through. Want sunken treasure? - smell the waters that washed over it.
StrollingEye
2024-12-19 20:01:23 +0000 UTClol
Macronomicon
2024-12-19 19:39:10 +0000 UTCMaybe people are always slightly out of breath around mason
MurkyTruths
2024-12-19 19:38:32 +0000 UTCI don't know if anyone has mentioned any appeal, or charm based abilities that could derive from this. But the idea of having small specs of basically pearls embedded within your flesh is oddly reminiscent of the vampires from Twilight
MurkyTruths
2024-12-19 19:38:18 +0000 UTCActually that could be the upgrade for Hollow Man - his internal organs get shunted to a pocket dimension and are replaced by energy absorbed by his shields. Eventually he becomes a human bomb - if he suffes a nose bleed, energy eacape from his crunchy yet delicious nacre shell. Would also set up a storyline where he gets captured to make mother-of-pearl inlays by someone chipping the nacre from his soft dangly bits.
Cyrus McEnnis
2024-12-19 19:03:23 +0000 UTCFeel like shield hp and conduit could be combined. Might be too strong tho
Mani
2024-12-19 19:02:44 +0000 UTCI wonder what a conflagration that is bigger on the inside would do...
Vinohr
2024-12-19 18:42:16 +0000 UTCI think hollow-man is interesting. You could also add that he might be able to absorb attacks or objects that break his skin to be stored in towable pearls that he can sell or use himself.
Frederic Vincent
2024-12-19 18:29:33 +0000 UTCWhile the hollow-man effect seems cool, it also seems like it would cap-out the quickest, once Mason is hollow, he won't get any hollower, and thus no additional benefits, and being hollow probably wpuldn't protect him from head exploding. This just doesn't seem on a lord level unfair ability in terms of scaling. Unless his crust keeps getting thicker still or maybe the space within himkeeps expanding, making Mason bigger on the inside, keeping a nasty surprise within.
Stanisław Drewienkowski
2024-12-19 18:20:14 +0000 UTCHis skin should turn pearly. Thickening a bit, but actually turning denser. The trick with dimension pearls is that an attack mostly goes in one side and comes out the other without interacting with what’s inside of you. So as his shield is broken, this pearly layer builds up giving him a dimensional shield because things at his will move through him
RedInkQuill
2024-12-19 18:20:11 +0000 UTCOf the options given, Hollow Man seems cool. When it was first mentioned in the story, I thought it would syphon off a bit of the damage dealt and store it in Mason's body - permeate to me implies a storage type ability. So maybe it stores a percentage of damage dealt as energy that Mason can spend to change his damage type for his nukes - physical damage adds a concussive blast, poison damage adds a toxin, psychic damage adds a mental vision of your mum doing pr0n, that sort of thing.
Cyrus McEnnis
2024-12-19 18:17:20 +0000 UTCSince it’s the dimensional pearl Nacre, it would make his skin/tissues harder, but also warp what’s inside over time, possibly add a dimensional flavor to his skills.
Benjamin Walsh
2024-12-19 18:14:11 +0000 UTCI thought the nacre would provide a partial reflection of non physical effects and a reduction of damage from physical effects based on how densely permeated his skin is. Any damage reduction or reflection would reduce the amount of nacre permeation.
Thomas
2024-12-19 18:11:43 +0000 UTCIt changes his build drastically and emphasizes the rarity of the oyster while if anyone asked akul or his son about that choice we could get some backstory of previous attempts with the build, or his appearance changes drastically enough that we get an offhand comment and some advice.
Derek Engols
2024-12-19 18:02:29 +0000 UTCThe reason I suggest this, is it stops him from cheesing it quickly. It gives an explanation why we don't see others with it. And it changes enough of how his shields work that it forces progression or petrification.
Derek Engols
2024-12-19 17:57:57 +0000 UTCI assumed it was turning his skin into some kind of Shield Nacre/Flesh composite and he'd eventually look like a walking talking statue.
Exrotes
2024-12-19 17:57:28 +0000 UTCI think a combination of them with appropriate time scales and draw backs .Like making him a bit more durable, but also requiring more strength to move as his body becomes more dense/changed. Whereas hollow man feels mechanically interesting, I'd also suggest that it affects his metabolism in some negative way, making the need to eat smaller and more often as it progresses until he hits that stored organs state. But also giving him minor boosts to to his shielding spells.
Derek Engols
2024-12-19 17:56:27 +0000 UTCThe hollow man seems unique and not likely to have a counter. But the description sounds fragile rather durable. Maybe it nullifies any damage or status effects that target the organs that are in the dimensional space. So if his heart is "stored" a stab to the heart won't do anything and neither can abilities like Void's target him.
Mariposa
2024-12-19 17:45:33 +0000 UTCOption: pre-load abilities into a pearl that he can stock pile
Sobek
2024-12-19 17:40:40 +0000 UTCI feel a new option in between the rest would be the best fit honestly: permeated tissue (dimensional skin battery) : when a shield is broken leftover charge permeates his skin builds up there like a dimensional battery up to a certain limit. Mason can call on this charge to strengthen his abilities both shield and conflagaration at will. New shields breaking are needed to recharge. Original limit is really low however any charge from a broken shield forced into skin while it is full of charge expands the upper limit by a miniscule amount. This is where the insect exploit comes in, with loths help he can force the 'battery' to slowly expand wile alone it would take years. Eventually he would have a massive battery built up for special occasions making him a situational/temporary super nuke/shield till it runs out and has to be refilled. Also the more acuity he gets the quicker he call refill it (the more shields he can break on himself in safety per day) . So yeah that is what i would go for. Infinite (slow painful growth) skin battery
Jake
2024-12-19 17:37:32 +0000 UTCYknow what, fair enough, lol.
Emily Gurnavage
2024-12-19 17:36:17 +0000 UTCall the better lol
Baines
2024-12-19 17:35:37 +0000 UTCHollow man sooooounds cool as shit which I'm pretty sure is why everyone is voting for it BUTTTT what Mason wanted was better shields, not to survive while becoming a living pincushion, lol. I don't think he likes pain even a bit. So I don't think the character in question would be happy with that route.
Emily Gurnavage
2024-12-19 17:29:04 +0000 UTCHollow mage-tank please! Decent offense with peerless defense would make him a great persistence hunter. Turn him into that immortal snail that never stops following you and will kill you if it ever catches up.
Doctor Zero
2024-12-19 17:27:00 +0000 UTCHollow man is the best idea by a mile and gives clear space for counterplay. 100% stronger effects are narratively useless compared to something with pros and cons like hollow man
Jake Malony
2024-12-19 17:25:14 +0000 UTCIf he chose hollow man, would his organs slowly shrink over time as his shields broke? Or would it reset between battles, with them reshrinking every time?
Sanairb
2024-12-19 17:23:09 +0000 UTCI like the hollow man idea, but I would like some extra flavor to it. I am kind imagining it like the layers in larger stars where energy radiates out though the pearl layers, it makes him a little slower at the start of a fight but gives him almost bottomless reserves, weird immunities, and higher max output.
David Burchfield
2024-12-19 17:16:38 +0000 UTCI love #2 but was thinking about ablative layers of hit points. Pearls are extremely thin layers of nacre one on top of the other, so he can ''regenerate HP'' even on full life albeit slowly and when his HP bar is overfull (200%) he creates an ablative layer of hit points like the multiple hit point bars of a boss.
Mi
2024-12-19 17:13:46 +0000 UTCCan it be 1) and 4)
james apfel
2024-12-19 17:12:45 +0000 UTCI think any option would be cool, but aesthetically it'd be funny if Maso gets covered in spit whenever he uses his shields. Now hear me out, Nacre is basically clam spit that eventually hardens into pearls. So, Every time he uses his shield he gets covered in Magical Nacre while eventually becoming pearlescent himself.
chris
2024-12-19 17:09:23 +0000 UTCI thought the durability increase would be aimed at the shields he makes, and you were going for power reflection/ mirror force type stuffs. Excited for shiny boy Mason!
Opportunity Drive
2024-12-19 17:09:19 +0000 UTCHe can already do cantrips by almost but not quite casting conflagration
Tate Browder
2024-12-19 17:08:28 +0000 UTCShield seems like it is much more in line with evolution of his existing ability than the others, so I like it a lot more
Tate Browder
2024-12-19 17:07:41 +0000 UTCMagical Conduit also fits when basing the ability on how nacre inspired materials can have high thermal/electrical conductivity... also means the shield potentially gets harder to break as the nacre builds up.
Alex
2024-12-19 17:06:45 +0000 UTCTo elaborate what a fight could look like when theyre much higher level: Mason nukes himself, breaking his shields completely and instantly gaining a small amount of shielding back because of the conversion relic, his flesh IS shielding so instead of his outer body disintegrating and his organs scattering, he stays in tact. He takes the overflow damage that his shields can't absorb from the hit (which is what destroys his outer body and would normally kill him), but his organs take no damage because they basically aren't there. His outer body instantly reforms (like mentioned) and then he gains a boost to his Nuker attack from the shield loss. Rinse, repeat, and the only way he actually dies is if he runs out of charge and can't reform his body anymore.
Aaron
2024-12-19 17:04:35 +0000 UTCI prefer a mix of 1 and 4, where his resistance/magic is increased instead of resistance/strength, allowing him to use more powerful magic in close range like a human bomb. His skillset doesnt currently include a strong body so i dont know if he would want get an physical infighter skill which doesnt minmax his current capabilities (where a magical infighter skill would).
Edward Jeffs
2024-12-19 17:01:23 +0000 UTCExpansion on the Hollow Man idea: If he's empty on the inside, he can fill the void with something else. Loth's bugs were mentioned, but a useful build to head towards might be to fill himself with his fire. Rocket boost from a cut on the skin, retributive damage from fire, and importantly, burn away weapons/armor/projectiles before they can reach internal organs. And cantrips to e.g. breathe his internal fire without spending Charges.
Garrett Therkorn
2024-12-19 17:00:46 +0000 UTCI voted 3 because it seems the most Lord like, but 2 seems like the most Macro option.
Joe ?
2024-12-19 16:59:48 +0000 UTCI had thought the permenating tissue applied to the person attacking the shield so it would be an offensive detriment
Sam
2024-12-19 16:57:37 +0000 UTCI went with shield HP, but you should just have him find a sacrifice that lets him then get Hollow Man later on, too. If he combines the two of those and becomes a quasi-immortal Nuker that has gear that lets him absorb % of total friendly fire damage taken and convert it into more shielding, thus giving him more HP in a feedback loop, another that makes his body act autonomously so self-inflcited damage becomes friendly fire damage, and finally his shrinking organs eventually getting so small that they're sub-atomic and don't even really exist on the same dimension as the rest of his body anymore and so it doesn't really matter the amount of damage he takes as it can't actually do anything to him, then he can literally just nuke himself and be like Captain Atom from DC and he a living nuke. Throw in relics that let him increase his Nuker powers by an amount equal to shield loss in a set amount of time and you've got yourself a Lord.
Aaron
2024-12-19 16:57:28 +0000 UTCPlus rocket jumps would be survivable.
Xeophyn
2024-12-19 16:56:51 +0000 UTCI know it's boring, but endlessly scaling physical power/durability plus his magical abilities would make for an smoother road to his lordship dreams.
Xeophyn
2024-12-19 16:53:47 +0000 UTC#2, but with the side-effect that he becomes a living pearl. Possibly even standard pearl size. Reggie can carry him around in his pocket until Mason learns to fly. Just the idea of a little pearl floating around the tower, blowing things up, and potentially being a Lord and doing Lord things (like attending auctions) makes me smile.
Ichikira
2024-12-19 16:53:41 +0000 UTCWhatever option, I think it would be hilarious if a side effect would be to make his skin sparkly or iridescent. Like sparkly vamps in the twilight saga. And the party makes fun of him.
Patrick
2024-12-19 16:53:19 +0000 UTCI think it's more like where do you want him to go from here? He could separate a bit more from Reggie with Hollowman? Like you could make him more like a flame atronoch style character? Always on fire or something too. I can also see the pear just giving him more growth stats because of how pearls grow, like if he doesn't use his abilities they become more powerful until he uses it, then it resets
David W. Baijense
2024-12-19 16:51:48 +0000 UTCHollow-man is probably the most in theme with the pearl
Redc05
2024-12-19 16:51:32 +0000 UTCI'm liking shield hp becase if he gets the sacrifice to manipulate his shields would he be able to manipulate himself?
Gam
2024-12-19 16:51:31 +0000 UTCI think shield HP comes closest to my own idea, but what I was thinking was more adjacent to it. The dimensional pearls added a spatial attribute to his skill, resulting in nacre buildup for defensive purposes. I was thinking it could have some spatial effects that help his defenses. Maybe shield hp as a primary effect and some sort of spatial effect as secondary that's hardly even noticeable until he has a lot of nacre built up like spatial warping to slightly deflect ranged attacks or lengthening so that melee attacks that seem like they should hit simply can't
austin kutz
2024-12-19 16:50:21 +0000 UTCThat's one way to see it, would he still look human visibly with just looking glossy? Would he still FEEL human? I feel like it could open up interesting ways of personal conflict between the nuker and the party, his surviving family members, or even himself. Idk if you would wanna make him unstable and unhinged like hollow man but could open up some possibility's?
Pecca
2024-12-19 16:49:25 +0000 UTCHollow man means there's more room for bugs inside him
rwn
2024-12-19 16:48:47 +0000 UTCIt stems from his shield ability, so it being defensive in nature isn't too much of a surprise. I could go either way.
Macronomicon
2024-12-19 16:48:31 +0000 UTCthat seems kinda glitched. i'm only seeing the four.
Macronomicon
2024-12-19 16:47:42 +0000 UTCI think Hollowman would be great too, but the pearl is more magical in nature right? So the magical-charge-esc part would make more sense to me because the other would be more like a tank type
David W. Baijense
2024-12-19 16:47:41 +0000 UTCWhat if the nacre allows him to ‘store’ an attack using a shield as a container for it, similar to the pearls. Attacks would have to be magical in nature but would allow him to store other attacks to increase variability
Michael
2024-12-19 16:46:50 +0000 UTCDunno if patreon is glitched, but I have 8 options, all four options show up twice
In-Game_Name
2024-12-19 16:46:40 +0000 UTCLike the movie?
Macronomicon
2024-12-19 16:46:32 +0000 UTCWould hollow man have mental side effects due to him becoming less and less "human"?
Pecca
2024-12-19 16:45:37 +0000 UTC