Macronomicon : 4th floor raid Boss

The main issue with some of these ideas is you’ve shown us vampires, crocodiles, moss etc in recent chapters. I think, since you gave us lumberers (zombie/mummy), mentioned witches, and vampires… you kind of have to give us a wolfman. I don’t make the rules. I really hope it’s a witch. You mentioned swamp witches as a boss in the chapter where they raided the church, and keep mentioning them, but we haven’t seen them. That said, swamp witch with a swamp moose, mimicking princesses and unicorns. Do you like princesses? Having read your other works…. Anyway, I think make a mockery of seeing a princess and a unicorn in a glade, break the illusion and it’s a swamp witch and moose that can negate any swamp movement penalty, can grow its antlers(?) to do melee charge damage (much like our hero) and holds someone underwater with the antlers to drown them. Not actually drown them, but a nice attempted drowning. Also, witch, that can hard negate Alicia by negating ranged weapons, wind, etc.

Andrew Tobin

2024-09-21 13:53:09 +0000 UTC

Pizza the hutt, but vines and mud and a swamp hill.

Andrew Tobin

2024-09-21 07:51:23 +0000 UTC

Swamp mermaids. Like regular mermaids, but from Florida.

Andrew Tobin

2024-09-21 07:50:35 +0000 UTC

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.previewsworld.com%2FCatalog%2FJUN168740&psig=AOvVaw3xahMKtIIK4kDImBgavPRA&ust=1726982715617000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjRxqFwoTCPjRkZam04gDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAK

Donovan

2024-09-21 05:27:01 +0000 UTC

The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles evil Bayou uncle Tortoise. All spiked shell with a swamp treehouse Witch living inside making gumbo and having a catfish head and the lord of the swamp vampires as a familiar/boyfriend. Throw in a catfish joke. Have some good Halloween swamp witch loot. shrunken heads. Witches bottles. A HAND OF GLORY! Have her name be Madam something or other / Granny.

Donovan

2024-09-21 05:23:55 +0000 UTC

Tree maybe

ImYou

2024-09-20 15:09:09 +0000 UTC

Some middle sized creatur, 6-10 meter tall. Infested (parasitic relationship) with all kinds of swamp creaturs. Abillitys like call of the hord, Jump attack, und somthing like a posions fog breath and or fart. Teeth shouldn't be sharp but insteand more round (for crushing food). Somekind of ooz / root layer skin. I thing of a two legged bull with a large tail (also ideal for smashing).

Thedevilsdemon

2024-09-20 05:33:02 +0000 UTC

Hmmm that doesn't fit the Floor's theme but maybe for future reference : a haunted "suit of armor" monster, that endlessly picks up and adds Relics to its body. As long as n pieces remain, it survives. If there are "conflicts" in the build it can blow up the pieces. Behavior changes everytime you see it/when you re attempt to harm it after failing/during the fight because the Build changes. Maybe make it a time-attack Floor/trial : it spawns "naked" and hunts monsters at the same time as Climbers and if they take too long to take it down it's too dangerous. Maybe it respawns periodically.

sebsebs

2024-09-20 05:30:26 +0000 UTC

Maybe something like a stinky mushroom that's horrendously offensive but also technically harmless except it has legs and runs very fast if you scare it, while screaming and spreading pheromones that attract every mob in a huge radius Or maybe something very adorable that's completely at odds with the theme of the Floor... and debuffs you every time you try to harm it (or just look at it) ? Maybe actual mental damage ?

sebsebs

2024-09-20 05:24:45 +0000 UTC

Couple options Sentient Plague/Cortyceps. Think about it like a PvP scenario with additional changing environmental factors. Gigantic Swamps Tree that moves across the bottom of the swamps, changing, hunting, and controlling the environment, turning the encounter into a constantly changing maze with an intelligent and malicious controlled A Giant Tarantula, it can climb, camouflage, hit and run with poison and other effects, cause AOE waves of micro hairs that penetrate then perforate with movement. Swarm Boss, a hivemind of any given enemy, could also be a prime controller. A Lord Boss, considering how annoying swamp vampire's are something like Swamp Vampire Lord that acts a bit like Tamurkhan from Warhammer Fantasy where you kill him at first but he just keeps showing up as different dudes could extend the lifetime of the boss, being able to follow them through floors and causing party kills, potentially even infiltrating the party. The Swamp Itself, Frontier towns start disappearing off of the map and 4th floor gets a whole lot more dangerous, could be an enemy, could be a timed event, could be a search for a control structure whilst constantly bleeding resources and getting THE WORST DISEASES the longer it goes on. Could also shave off some party members that way. just a few ideas

Aguy

2024-09-20 04:32:45 +0000 UTC

giant potoo

gabriel hutcherson

2024-09-20 03:14:48 +0000 UTC

Giant swamp rat

gabriel hutcherson

2024-09-20 00:51:44 +0000 UTC

They can show ther spines through their mouth. Super freaky looking bird.

LordDark

2024-09-20 00:42:16 +0000 UTC

More fun idea. Swamp pelican aka a bird known as a Shoebill. Stationary stealth, Flight, Paralyzing Eyes, suction breath, Dimensional Stomach, can use all relics it swallows. Show it swallowing an entire noob party before the fight starts.

LordDark

2024-09-20 00:23:42 +0000 UTC

You know what would be awesome? a Fuck Off huge water strider. Those things can move 100 body lengths per second.

matt

2024-09-20 00:05:16 +0000 UTC

Having the boss be some kind of giant hive mind suits well with the 4th floor since it's moreso the environment and how monsters can take advantage of it that make it deadly. Maybe something like The Heart of the Swamp that's a small floating wisp that can control all creatures native to the floor. As soon as you encounter it, it hides while summoning hordes of monsters that slow you down as you try to chase it. You could have it set up to be a grueling encounter that Will just trivialises by grabbing the wisp with Phantom Hand early on and gimping the encounter

John

2024-09-19 23:35:53 +0000 UTC

Don’t miss the chance to make this Will’s arch nemesis- the only think that could live in a stank swamp: Evil Swamp Goat.

Mason W

2024-09-19 23:22:26 +0000 UTC

Giant Slime Mold, huge network, does annoying acid, poison, disease, debuffs and stacks them until it can absorb and eat things. Takes wide area damage and a big raid group to counter or just the right types of poison or disease (since it is immune to most).

David Burchfield

2024-09-19 23:15:09 +0000 UTC

It has to be a Godzilla alligator

van eisley

2024-09-19 22:37:42 +0000 UTC

Mangrove Treant with salt/dehydrating attacks and bloodsucking vines

PJ LeBlanc

2024-09-19 22:33:08 +0000 UTC

Rot toad with spawn and lightning fast sticky tung :)

Sebastian Lindqvist

2024-09-19 22:01:03 +0000 UTC

Swamp Hydra

Dax

2024-09-19 21:29:20 +0000 UTC

A Giant Rot Troll. Has the abilities of a normal troll i.e. extreme regeneration, but is packed to the brim full of insects, maggots and diseases. Basically if you didnt build up any immunity earlier in the floor then youll be out like a light shortly.

Jacob

2024-09-19 21:28:22 +0000 UTC

Maybe like a giant mycelium network that can worm its way through the ground and then create different kind of mushrooms as attacks ie ones that can extend like tentacles to grab or swipe, some could release dangerous spores that induce hallucinations, some could just explode or maybe shoot acid streams. How it moves could just be growing into a specific direction while the mass behind it just dies. Which could create a separate hazard or environment behind where it’s been depending on how you want to take it. It could either have a main core that needs to be destroyed or if not might need to be whittled down bit by bit or killed by staking too many debuffs or poisons

Finn

2024-09-19 21:26:07 +0000 UTC

A supercharged will o' wisp. Regular wisps are small ghostly lights that subtly lure you into a swamp to down. This is a pale blue sun that brute forces the process, by arriving suddenly with a roar of flame, and demanding you march towards it.

Joe ?

2024-09-19 21:16:16 +0000 UTC

A airborne bacteria that enters their bodies and breaks it down. The way to get rid of it is to destroy its source which would be some kind of tree or plant.

Fleisch

2024-09-19 21:15:46 +0000 UTC

You know what is a classic? Giant island turtle. There's a strangely safe seeming lightly wooded island in the swamp...

Melody Haren Anderson

2024-09-19 21:07:38 +0000 UTC

I'm thinking a Baba Yaga style cottage with stalk legs. Mimic style boss, once they get to the front door it bursts open and a giant beak pops out, then it stands up 3 stories tall on stork legs to try and crush them, is weirdly quick and agile for a house.

Edmund McGough

2024-09-19 21:01:54 +0000 UTC

Giant fuck off hellgrammite that they think is the raid boss- turns out it’s the larval form and its parent a psychic powered dobsonfly shows up

Tate Browder

2024-09-19 20:57:52 +0000 UTC

Dude gelatinous cube. Regen+ acid blood and AOE area denial with slime balls

alex ayala

2024-09-19 20:54:31 +0000 UTC

You can have the key site in the middle of a swamp (fighting in water always nerfs everyone) with a water raid monster. I know that kinda prevents it from roaming around but maybe underground swamp networks? Suggestion Sethricon Sethricon is a massive, ancient swamp leviathan that lurks in the dark, toxic depths beneath the water. This mythical creature manipulates the swamp around it, making the environment itself an enemy as it drags adventurers into its deadly, venomous domain. • Venomous Maelstrom: Sethricon creates a vortex of poisoned water, pulling enemies toward it while dealing continuous poison damage and slowing their movement. • Living Mire: The swamp becomes sentient, with vines and tendrils rising to entangle and suffocate enemies, immobilizing them and dealing constant damage. • Primordial Regeneration: While submerged, Sethricon rapidly heals by absorbing the swamp’s natural energies, forcing adventurers to keep constant pressure to prevent its recovery.

True_Reaper

2024-09-19 20:43:55 +0000 UTC

On the opposite end of the spectrum, how about an Axolotl: https://youtu.be/bFkIG9S2Mmg?si=0R03nokqu_i19ciR

Dee

2024-09-19 20:42:57 +0000 UTC

What about a giant dragonfly that can turn on a dime and drops giant crap from above?

Meowgrr

2024-09-19 20:41:57 +0000 UTC

have mega eel, and it will give them an op ranger item

God

2024-09-19 20:41:18 +0000 UTC

A leech swarm/amalgam

Frederic Vincent

2024-09-19 20:39:15 +0000 UTC

I like the hive mind ideas. Some kind of hive mind treant? They can kill one super treant, thinking its the raid boss, only to find that the entire swamp was the raid boss. Kind of how like mangrove trees look like an entire forest, but they all have an interconnected root system, and are really just the same tree.

Summers Mori

2024-09-19 20:36:26 +0000 UTC

I nominate the deadly hippo, responsible for more deaths per year than lions, alligators, coconuts, or poisonous snakes: https://youtu.be/mfPCFQfOnLg?si=eyRfe8GVNx3tIlxo

Dee

2024-09-19 20:31:11 +0000 UTC

Big swamp treant

Clifton Thrasher

2024-09-19 20:24:47 +0000 UTC

Giant Sword-Beak Heron. legs like tree trunks, capable of sending people flying with gusts of wind from its wings, spearing people with its beak

Dash Marley

2024-09-19 20:23:52 +0000 UTC

Hear me out. Leech hydra. Blood sucking regen and poison

Big casino

2024-09-19 20:23:18 +0000 UTC

Has anyone mentioned Wyvern's yet? I saw hydra and gators. But honestly, the thought of something that can just take a party member and fly off while you're dealing with everything slowing you down is kind of fucked. Like what are you supposed to do against that? Can't chase it easily you got swamp to deal with, and that solo party member isn't going to be well equipped to do something. Also gives you thoughts on sacrifices for dragon subspecies and their lore.

Derek Engols

2024-09-19 20:21:43 +0000 UTC

Truckzilla suddenly came to mind, given the Hi-Tech we saw teased way back in the Establishing Quest. Kaiju-sized Trash Panda. Or cockroach.

Cyrus McEnnis

2024-09-19 20:19:58 +0000 UTC

A giant leech that is really just made up of smaller leeches. Some sort of hive monster

RedInkQuill

2024-09-19 20:12:08 +0000 UTC

A psychic monster like that one plant invading him maybe

Benjamin Collins

2024-09-19 20:10:26 +0000 UTC

I'm thinking a giant turtle with a shell that's actually a hive and they defeat the hive only to find out the turtle itself is the boss and he's all passive until the end when they defeat the hive or maybe monsters living in his shell and then finally reacts after there all defeated by thanking them somehow

Benjamin Collins

2024-09-19 20:09:22 +0000 UTC

Giant Salamander

mmarkgraf212

2024-09-19 20:08:48 +0000 UTC

An Elephant

Exrotes

2024-09-19 20:05:59 +0000 UTC

Maybe The Swamp Thing? A HULK-like humanoid that patrols the swamp and smashes everything it encounters?

JhanicManifold

2024-09-19 20:05:46 +0000 UTC

A giant giraffe. It can walk easily across the swamp waters and it would be totally unexpected!

Meowgrr

2024-09-19 20:01:15 +0000 UTC

A giant mud slime. I always liked the idea that slimes aren't weak monsters but actually nightmares to fight

kfir with a כ

2024-09-19 19:57:20 +0000 UTC

A cajun hillbilly siren that mesmerize climbers with banjo playing

Manuel valdez

2024-09-19 19:54:33 +0000 UTC

poisonous swamp grasshopper - mega agile and hinders mobility by influencing terrain or more classically poisonous Hydra variant

Treim

2024-09-19 19:46:48 +0000 UTC

What if it were a storm elemental? Raises water level nearby making aquatics more dangerous. Feduced flame abilities that most people will have some of from last floor, raid and wind reduced visability making ground even worse, as well as making ambushes from other mobs more viable and deadly

Alex Matheny

2024-09-19 19:45:09 +0000 UTC

Echoing what others are saying, a hydra varient would be cool. Like a Axolotl Hydra with extreme regeneration that requires continuous debuffs to finally kill, but it doesn’t stay dead Zombie Hydra Phase two.

ArchonUmbra

2024-09-19 19:42:03 +0000 UTC

Giant crab or lobster like elden ring

ImYou

2024-09-19 19:41:31 +0000 UTC

Really big Horned Toad. Like large hill sized. With human sized toads spawning out of its skin focused on fog or poison clouds. Or some sort of amphibian like a Huge Newt or Axolotl with water powers that could drown whole stretches of the floor.

ArchonUmbra

2024-09-19 19:38:49 +0000 UTC

How can you have a Swamp and not a crocodile as the boss? Or make it dun and make it a hydra crocodile

Chad Burnett

2024-09-19 19:34:57 +0000 UTC

Fungus beast. Huge spore clouds, slow moving but converts everything nearby to fight it - bug included… - and the poisons are deadly. Frankly it might wipe the party if you’re not careful…

Selkie

2024-09-19 19:33:09 +0000 UTC

Bunyip would add variety and could be used in many ways such as aquakinesis, physical attacks, scales, inflict diseases, and have mental luring effects, which could make a very interesting fight and upgrade other party members in interesting ways but hydras typically are in swamps and they would be useful for Will upgrading aspect of the goat

Thomas Issa

2024-09-19 19:30:19 +0000 UTC

A very large crane (bird)

Exolious

2024-09-19 19:29:28 +0000 UTC

Leech swarm/hive mind

Jake

2024-09-19 19:29:02 +0000 UTC

A hydra variant. Possibly add an unusual element like lightning or ice to make it both more unusual for the floor / hydras and more dangerous on the floor.

DrFumbles

2024-09-19 19:26:35 +0000 UTC

A tiny white rabbit would have been my call, but you used that already. Lessee. A swamp biome, disease centric floor. Could do a swarm boss, rats would fit the theme. Baba Yaga's hut, or a variant thereof (Baba Yaga's double-wides is a personal favorite). Swamp Hydra would work. Grootslang or Bunyip if you want to get exotic. Given you wanna stay away from a snek, the Grootslang variant I'd use is "a four-tusked green-skinned elephant with ram-like horns and a spiked snake-like tail"

Cyrus McEnnis

2024-09-19 19:20:31 +0000 UTC

And now I realize other people also are saying hydras. Proof it’s a great choice ig.

Pseudo

2024-09-19 19:19:04 +0000 UTC

Is that even a question?! Giant swamp hydra obviously!

Pseudo

2024-09-19 19:17:47 +0000 UTC

Hydra

Paul Rauner

2024-09-19 19:15:47 +0000 UTC

How about the skunk ape: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_ape Famed monster of the Florida Everglades, big, nasty and too cunning by half.

Matthew Davis

2024-09-19 19:12:25 +0000 UTC

Swamp Thing, but the size of a giant. Human shaped, capable of using tools, made of rotting and living vegetation. Absorbing vegetation to heal itself. A real problem.

Ano Ano

2024-09-19 19:12:06 +0000 UTC

Giant crawfish. Like massive. =P

Paratus

2024-09-19 19:09:45 +0000 UTC

A gigantic swamp vampire that has a parasitic relationship with the leeches that causes it to lose all the blood it gains from kills to the leeches thus forcing it to constantly search for prey in an aggressive and bezerk manner as it is always on the brink of starvation

Cuban Pete

2024-09-19 19:08:59 +0000 UTC

Bigfoot with mud and water bending abilities. Think the hicks from Avatar the last air bender.

Kevin Spock

2024-09-19 19:08:30 +0000 UTC

Tiny alligator, unassuming but unnervingly fast and agile.

Callum Melly

2024-09-19 19:03:47 +0000 UTC

A giant slug thats coated in a poisonous mucus, maybe make it resistant to fire/explosions

ootrouble101oo

2024-09-19 19:03:42 +0000 UTC

A hill sized turtle, massively strong on defense, with a small ecology on its back. Aside from it stretching out its neck and biting through adventurers and trees, the back is likely to be home to other threats, probably swarms of either bugs or birds. If bugs, then Loth might get something nice. If birds, they probably have powerful piercing attacks they use to keep the turtle shell clean of parasites that would bore in.

Chris Gast

2024-09-19 19:03:08 +0000 UTC

An island that's a mimic trap. Lures with Dead body with loot ooo snap eats anyone dumb enough to walk on it.

Robert Amundson

2024-09-19 19:00:02 +0000 UTC

Yeah maybe it could even be the unique vampire progenitor for the vamps of the swamp

Matt

2024-09-19 18:59:09 +0000 UTC

I second the idea of leaches. For this floor I like the idea of taking something that's ordinarily mostly a nuisance and making them actually terrifying. You could combine it with a few of the other ideas and make it some kind of immortal/incorporeal creature that builds a body based on the local creatures. So maybe last time it was "killed" it had built a body of writhing vines and vegetation. This time it's a horde of leaches. Next time it might take over an entire grove of tree monsters, etc. So the danger is you've got to prepare for a mega version of one of your regular floor that's, but you may not know what it is specifically when you go out.

Jeff Wells

2024-09-19 18:58:33 +0000 UTC

How about a fungus that's subtaranrn mostly

s476

2024-09-19 18:58:31 +0000 UTC

Or I was thinking to challenge their large party a group of sirens, mermaids or harpies might be good. They traditionally have a potent sleep or mesmerizing effect that takes out large groups.

Mariposa

2024-09-19 18:57:12 +0000 UTC

Cajun swamp people with gators and coons as attack pets! Lol

Jeff Gaebler

2024-09-19 18:55:40 +0000 UTC

Now a swamp (poison, gas,acid) aspect hydra could be an interesting raid boss

gray matter

2024-09-19 18:55:28 +0000 UTC

Huge mosquito is the only right answer

Josh Cothran

2024-09-19 18:55:23 +0000 UTC

In higher floors I'd imagine it's resource scarcity. An army moves on its stomach after all.

Mariposa

2024-09-19 18:54:31 +0000 UTC

Bonus points if it can wiggle your own blood in your body, that's always immensely uncomfortable.

Elijah Huyck

2024-09-19 18:52:41 +0000 UTC

I like the idea of a roving colony of treants or some sort of swamp monster that pretends to be trees and has a lot of tentacles trying to root stuff in place to take advantage of catching vamps or anything else that likes to ambush. It's an ambush ambusher!

EDMANGO

2024-09-19 18:51:46 +0000 UTC

Id argue group size is nerfered by loot distribution and logistic requirements

Alex Matheny

2024-09-19 18:51:13 +0000 UTC

Or maybe no core but have to weaken through some environmental manipulation?

sata

2024-09-19 18:51:11 +0000 UTC

The Leechmonger from Demon Souls. It's a vaguely humanoid clump of leeches all voltron'd together. Make it huge, regenerating, and give it hemokinesis.

Elijah Huyck

2024-09-19 18:50:43 +0000 UTC

Make the boss counter some of them. Poisonous lake elemental with weak core

sata

2024-09-19 18:50:22 +0000 UTC

How about a swamp dragon? Not a true dragon, just some pseudo variant, but still extremely dangerous. Noxious fumes, thick scales, claws... Or a huge, shambling plant monster that is basically just a bunch of tentacles? Grabbing everything in range and using it to grow larger while it moves slowly around the area. Perhaps submerged and thus hidden during its rest periods? Maybe it spawns minions? Or if you want to break with the "boss = large" tradition, maybe a single, small enemy? Perhaps something super fast and deadly that's just skimming on top of the water, going through its targets to kill them? Perhaps something that relies on psychic damage? A Will-o'-the-wisp, floating seemingly aimlessly through the swamp (swarm of many small lights or one big one?)... immune to most damage and uses flames that do psychic damage to attack its foes? Maybe an island-sized alligator that is home to some symbiotic species? Insects or birds that form a swarm around it and screen it from attacks?

Daemion

2024-09-19 18:48:46 +0000 UTC

Can give it multiple worm heads to combine with hydra.

LordDark

2024-09-19 18:48:32 +0000 UTC

Mega slime. Just… a moving poisonous lake

luxrus

2024-09-19 18:46:07 +0000 UTC

Maybe a swamp hag, or something similar? It could enthrall vamps or other creatures to use as its meatshields, while it operates as a Leader/nuker.

Sebin Paul

2024-09-19 18:46:05 +0000 UTC

Crocnado?

xyphion

2024-09-19 18:45:49 +0000 UTC

I'm wondering if there's gotta be some mechanic that makes large groups have a harder time of it. Otherwise everyone would be running around in huge armies. Yeah, the group size here basically doubled, there needs to be something that balances that; ideally it's a known thing in-universe.

Alex

2024-09-19 18:43:58 +0000 UTC

I'm wondering if anything like a swamp treant colony. Like if a mangrove patch moved around, making fertilizer of the smaller floor monsters or unfortunate climbers,

Jehru

2024-09-19 18:41:35 +0000 UTC

master swamp vampire... because of course it's a swamp vampire

person1357

2024-09-19 18:40:44 +0000 UTC

Giant crocodile with steel scales and teeth that spews toxic gas, which it can then set on fire by snapping its jaw shut.

Red Viking

2024-09-19 18:39:54 +0000 UTC

Swamp monster with each section of the monster being a different creature or group of creatures from the 4th floor. It blends in to the rest of the floor unless it attacks or is moving fast.

Sands

2024-09-19 18:39:18 +0000 UTC

Relic Wyrm- giant worm shaped like an alligator with wings and legs. It is coated in Relic armor.

LordDark

2024-09-19 18:38:51 +0000 UTC

It's all about a swamp and poison and stuff, so maybe a mud elemental type thing? That may be a little too on the nose. Spiders are also associated with poison and debuffs, have a great big Shelob ambush them or something.

Jacob

2024-09-19 18:38:43 +0000 UTC

A legion of venomous eels/tentacles that end up being the phalanges of a giant amoeba-like ooze monster

Jake Malony

2024-09-19 18:38:29 +0000 UTC

A giant raincloud or maybe a living tidal wave that moves about the swamp. Basically a giant weather Elemental that is the reason the whole level is as wet and as humid as it is.

Leeland

2024-09-19 18:38:24 +0000 UTC

Could go demons souls make a whole bunch of leeches into a shapeshifting elemental. The leeches have been ubiquitous to this floor.

Big casino

2024-09-19 18:35:59 +0000 UTC

Why not a malboro from Final Fantasy? A giant Venus fly trap, basically, with a huge mouth with a lot of sharp teeth. And it has a special attack called "bad breath" that will give you a ton of different CC effects such as silenced, sleeped, poisoned and cursed all at once.

David Weller

2024-09-19 18:35:51 +0000 UTC

Maybe it's not any one monster but instead a fungal infection ( like zombies from the last of us) that has linked and empowered multiple powerful enemies across the floor with a hidden core/root that must be purged

Jake Malony

2024-09-19 18:35:48 +0000 UTC

Hmmm maybe a giant tortoise infected with a colony of worms and mosquitoes who attack in swarms around it

BIGLARGEFISH

2024-09-19 18:35:33 +0000 UTC

A few ideas. An island of mud that moves at night and hides the creature below (big turtle style) A giant alligator with a toxic breath attack A humanoid swamp monster hosting insects swarms in its body (algea hair, long limbs, slack belly, that sort) A big ball of decaying plant matter that rolls around and crush everything in its path Just what I can think of. Hope it helps ?

Kor

2024-09-19 18:35:07 +0000 UTC

No actually I changed my mind. A corrupted river spirit like from spirited away.

Mariposa

2024-09-19 18:33:53 +0000 UTC

Could do something like a swamped up version of the leshin from the witcher that controls insect swarms instead of birds. If you want to stick to reptiles maybe a lizard similar to vaal hazak in monster hunter, he would fit right into the themes of the 4th floor. Would have to nerf him down from being a dragon though. Have some lesser versions wonder around feeding of his kills would give some adds to fight as well

Ethan Gardner

2024-09-19 18:33:01 +0000 UTC

Or like a Halo Hunter-esque colony of the swamp vampire worms

Jack

2024-09-19 18:32:51 +0000 UTC

Mob's can be finally infected dead or half dead things from the floor being puppeted by main monster.

Joshua Gunty

2024-09-19 18:32:40 +0000 UTC

Yowie: Australian Cryptid. Basically a huge fast mossy furred mandrill.

chris

2024-09-19 18:32:29 +0000 UTC

Giant water Elemental snake. It pretends to be a river Or a massive turtle that looks like dry land with trees on its back.

Gibby

2024-09-19 18:31:37 +0000 UTC

Hydras are swamp monsters. Like what Hercules killed. Could also show any mistakes on team work if someone cuts off a head when they're not supposed to. Or someone could sabotage them. Another idea is the nosoi. They were the Greek personified spirits (daimones) of plague, sickness and disease. They could be a wandering boss monster that inflicts a devastating plague that can wipe they floor if even one adventurer survives an encounter with it.

Mariposa

2024-09-19 18:31:26 +0000 UTC

Big chungus monster

garlic

2024-09-19 18:31:25 +0000 UTC

Hydra? That might be a little overpowered for floor 4, but they are classically essentially immortal unless their heads are lopped off and the stumps seared. Giant tortoise? Not sure that's actually a swamp creature but it's magic turtle who knows. Pretty sure in real life alligators and snakes are the apex swamp predators. Nothing wrong with reflecting that in the tower.

Kenny

2024-09-19 18:31:12 +0000 UTC

Algae monster? Story wise something that would involve all of the 7 for bonding. Swamp hag/troll?

Darren Deloach

2024-09-19 18:30:08 +0000 UTC

For magical threat, you could go for a worm-that-walks. Body of a caster that dies then gets eaten by carrion critters. Soul possess's the swarm and hammers them into a vaguely humanoid form. Very hard to kill, magical threat. Baba Yaga hutt would probably be a good physical threat.

Gaunt

2024-09-19 18:29:30 +0000 UTC

I have no idea what your plan is with your world building, but what about humanoid enemies? Maybe a hyper powerful cleric and faithful bodyguard a la demon soul's swamp level. Maybe they've lost their minds/souls in some way and now wander the 4th floor purging corruption wherever they find it. Alternatively, biiiig slug

Jake Malony

2024-09-19 18:29:23 +0000 UTC

A giant fungal wave that devours everything in its path. Or a worm queen that produces vast quantities of swamp vampire worms and travels with a practical army of the things

In-Game_Name

2024-09-19 18:28:47 +0000 UTC

Fungal monster, it's mycelium spreads throughout the fourth floor and tripping it can cause the raid boss to rapidly grow like a mushroom on steroids. The longer the team lets it grow the larger and harder to kill it becomes.

Joshua Gunty

2024-09-19 18:28:34 +0000 UTC

Maybe something thats a natural predator to insects. Giant spider, giant frog, giant vampire bat.

Got Heem 11

2024-09-19 18:27:44 +0000 UTC

What about a Giant version of a Diglet type monster from Pokémon?

Pararably

2024-09-19 18:27:08 +0000 UTC

First thing that came to mind for a giant fuck off monster in a swamp was a Hippo. I'm imagining world turtle style giant hippo with whole ecosystems living on it coming alive to defend the Host. Helicopter poos to level buildings, and a charge attack that would make a t Rex run away. (Charge attack style relic drop for will?)

Opportunity Drive

2024-09-19 18:27:04 +0000 UTC

Shambling Mound made of bodies of dead climbers with some of their powers. As the thing gets damaged it loses bodies and their powers but gains the ones of the bodies further in, which are always more powerful as a survival mechanism.

PlasmaticPi

2024-09-19 18:26:52 +0000 UTC

Could do a hydra, Some sort of ent like being or hill sized swamp monster. Maybe a walking insect hive.

Matt M

2024-09-19 18:26:37 +0000 UTC

Big swamp elemental type thing. Muck, Mulch, and Vines forming a vaguely bipedal figure. Depending on how big it gets it would carry around some smaller monsters.

Seadrake

2024-09-19 18:26:19 +0000 UTC

Giant Platypus, with nasty venom spurs it shoots out

Steffen

2024-09-19 18:26:12 +0000 UTC

Giant Slime (or something similarly boneless, except for the bones it’s currently dissolving ie it ate them, to make Alicia struggle to see it during the fight)

Kronos

2024-09-19 18:26:08 +0000 UTC

Giant Alligator, or possible swarm of giant mosquitoes

Jeremy Farnham

2024-09-19 18:24:37 +0000 UTC

Poison toad

Unneeded073

2024-09-19 18:24:06 +0000 UTC

Giant leech

Unneeded073

2024-09-19 18:23:58 +0000 UTC

Big swamp alligator

Unneeded073

2024-09-19 18:23:41 +0000 UTC

Tree kaiju, a rotting mangrove behemoth, infested with smaller monsters

Ford-Thomas Frank Loveland

2024-09-19 18:23:36 +0000 UTC

4th floor raid Boss

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Pizza the hutt, but vines and mud and a swamp hill.

Swamp mermaids. Like regular mermaids, but from Florida.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.previewsworld.com%2FCatalog%2FJUN168740&psig=AOvVaw3xahMKtIIK4kDImBgavPRA&ust=1726982715617000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjRxqFwoTCPjRkZam04gDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAK

Tree maybe

giant potoo

Giant swamp rat

They can show ther spines through their mouth. Super freaky looking bird.

More fun idea. Swamp pelican aka a bird known as a Shoebill. Stationary stealth, Flight, Paralyzing Eyes, suction breath, Dimensional Stomach, can use all relics it swallows. Show it swallowing an entire noob party before the fight starts.

You know what would be awesome? a Fuck Off huge water strider. Those things can move 100 body lengths per second.

Don’t miss the chance to make this Will’s arch nemesis- the only think that could live in a stank swamp: Evil Swamp Goat.

Giant Slime Mold, huge network, does annoying acid, poison, disease, debuffs and stacks them until it can absorb and eat things. Takes wide area damage and a big raid group to counter or just the right types of poison or disease (since it is immune to most).

It has to be a Godzilla alligator

Mangrove Treant with salt/dehydrating attacks and bloodsucking vines

Rot toad with spawn and lightning fast sticky tung :)

Swamp Hydra

A Giant Rot Troll. Has the abilities of a normal troll i.e. extreme regeneration, but is packed to the brim full of insects, maggots and diseases. Basically if you didnt build up any immunity earlier in the floor then youll be out like a light shortly.

A supercharged will o' wisp. Regular wisps are small ghostly lights that subtly lure you into a swamp to down. This is a pale blue sun that brute forces the process, by arriving suddenly with a roar of flame, and demanding you march towards it.

A airborne bacteria that enters their bodies and breaks it down. The way to get rid of it is to destroy its source which would be some kind of tree or plant.

You know what is a classic? Giant island turtle. There's a strangely safe seeming lightly wooded island in the swamp...

I'm thinking a Baba Yaga style cottage with stalk legs. Mimic style boss, once they get to the front door it bursts open and a giant beak pops out, then it stands up 3 stories tall on stork legs to try and crush them, is weirdly quick and agile for a house.

Giant fuck off hellgrammite that they think is the raid boss- turns out it’s the larval form and its parent a psychic powered dobsonfly shows up

Dude gelatinous cube. Regen+ acid blood and AOE area denial with slime balls

On the opposite end of the spectrum, how about an Axolotl: https://youtu.be/bFkIG9S2Mmg?si=0R03nokqu_i19ciR

What about a giant dragonfly that can turn on a dime and drops giant crap from above?

have mega eel, and it will give them an op ranger item

A leech swarm/amalgam

I nominate the deadly hippo, responsible for more deaths per year than lions, alligators, coconuts, or poisonous snakes: https://youtu.be/mfPCFQfOnLg?si=eyRfe8GVNx3tIlxo

Big swamp treant

Giant Sword-Beak Heron. legs like tree trunks, capable of sending people flying with gusts of wind from its wings, spearing people with its beak

Hear me out. Leech hydra. Blood sucking regen and poison

Truckzilla suddenly came to mind, given the Hi-Tech we saw teased way back in the Establishing Quest. Kaiju-sized Trash Panda. Or cockroach.

A giant leech that is really just made up of smaller leeches. Some sort of hive monster

A psychic monster like that one plant invading him maybe

Giant Salamander

An Elephant

Maybe The Swamp Thing? A HULK-like humanoid that patrols the swamp and smashes everything it encounters?

A giant giraffe. It can walk easily across the swamp waters and it would be totally unexpected!

A giant mud slime. I always liked the idea that slimes aren't weak monsters but actually nightmares to fight

A cajun hillbilly siren that mesmerize climbers with banjo playing

poisonous swamp grasshopper - mega agile and hinders mobility by influencing terrain or more classically poisonous Hydra variant

What if it were a storm elemental? Raises water level nearby making aquatics more dangerous. Feduced flame abilities that most people will have some of from last floor, raid and wind reduced visability making ground even worse, as well as making ambushes from other mobs more viable and deadly

Echoing what others are saying, a hydra varient would be cool. Like a Axolotl Hydra with extreme regeneration that requires continuous debuffs to finally kill, but it doesn’t stay dead Zombie Hydra Phase two.

Giant crab or lobster like elden ring

Really big Horned Toad. Like large hill sized. With human sized toads spawning out of its skin focused on fog or poison clouds. Or some sort of amphibian like a Huge Newt or Axolotl with water powers that could drown whole stretches of the floor.

How can you have a Swamp and not a crocodile as the boss? Or make it dun and make it a hydra crocodile

Fungus beast. Huge spore clouds, slow moving but converts everything nearby to fight it - bug included… - and the poisons are deadly. Frankly it might wipe the party if you’re not careful…

A very large crane (bird)

Leech swarm/hive mind

A hydra variant. Possibly add an unusual element like lightning or ice to make it both more unusual for the floor / hydras and more dangerous on the floor.

And now I realize other people also are saying hydras. Proof it’s a great choice ig.

Is that even a question?! Giant swamp hydra obviously!

Hydra

How about the skunk ape: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_ape Famed monster of the Florida Everglades, big, nasty and too cunning by half.

Swamp Thing, but the size of a giant. Human shaped, capable of using tools, made of rotting and living vegetation. Absorbing vegetation to heal itself. A real problem.

Giant crawfish. Like massive. =P

A gigantic swamp vampire that has a parasitic relationship with the leeches that causes it to lose all the blood it gains from kills to the leeches thus forcing it to constantly search for prey in an aggressive and bezerk manner as it is always on the brink of starvation

Bigfoot with mud and water bending abilities. Think the hicks from Avatar the last air bender.

Tiny alligator, unassuming but unnervingly fast and agile.

A giant slug thats coated in a poisonous mucus, maybe make it resistant to fire/explosions

An island that's a mimic trap. Lures with Dead body with loot ooo snap eats anyone dumb enough to walk on it.

Yeah maybe it could even be the unique vampire progenitor for the vamps of the swamp

How about a fungus that's subtaranrn mostly

Or I was thinking to challenge their large party a group of sirens, mermaids or harpies might be good. They traditionally have a potent sleep or mesmerizing effect that takes out large groups.

Cajun swamp people with gators and coons as attack pets! Lol

Now a swamp (poison, gas,acid) aspect hydra could be an interesting raid boss

Huge mosquito is the only right answer

In higher floors I'd imagine it's resource scarcity. An army moves on its stomach after all.

Bonus points if it can wiggle your own blood in your body, that's always immensely uncomfortable.

I like the idea of a roving colony of treants or some sort of swamp monster that pretends to be trees and has a lot of tentacles trying to root stuff in place to take advantage of catching vamps or anything else that likes to ambush. It's an ambush ambusher!

Id argue group size is nerfered by loot distribution and logistic requirements

Or maybe no core but have to weaken through some environmental manipulation?

The Leechmonger from Demon Souls. It's a vaguely humanoid clump of leeches all voltron'd together. Make it huge, regenerating, and give it hemokinesis.

Make the boss counter some of them. Poisonous lake elemental with weak core

Can give it multiple worm heads to combine with hydra.

Mega slime. Just… a moving poisonous lake

Maybe a swamp hag, or something similar? It could enthrall vamps or other creatures to use as its meatshields, while it operates as a Leader/nuker.

Crocnado?

I'm wondering if there's gotta be some mechanic that makes large groups have a harder time of it. Otherwise everyone would be running around in huge armies. Yeah, the group size here basically doubled, there needs to be something that balances that; ideally it's a known thing in-universe.