Apple's App Store Changes
Added 2024-08-22 04:41:04 +0000 UTCSo, you've read the pictures (hopefully) and Apple has decided that it deserves 30% of any Pledge made to my Patreon through their App Store. Meaning that for Patrons that pledge to me through said App, the price of your pledge is going to be jacked up to cover Apple's selfish fees.
Also, going forward, they're forcibly switching every Patreon user to subscription billing, so budgeting is definitely gonna be harder to do for me going forward as the money comes in bit by bit instead of just on the first of the month. Lovely...
I highly encourage everyone to NOT use the Apple App Store for Patreon if you have ANY other alternative.
Sorry, to bring bad (or just annoying) news, but every one of my Patrons should be made aware of this before it goes into effect.
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You do only pay the difference when upgrading Tiers if you already paid, but I don't know if Apple will be taking a 30% cut of that or not too. Dropping down a Tier is always free if you've already paid the higher Tier that month.
Kairomaru
2024-08-24 04:58:20 +0000 UTCDang. So my $1 is no $1.33? Not leaving, just gonna have to look through and try to maybe lower my tiers on others. Personally I feel there shouldn’t be a fee for changing to a lower tier, and if upgrading after paying for the month, you should only pay the difference.
ShadowMage319
2024-08-24 04:52:30 +0000 UTCThe iOS Patreon App upcharge will apply to ALL of your pledges on Patreon, so for each one you have, however much it is, it will increase by 30% starting in November.
Kairomaru
2024-08-24 00:12:05 +0000 UTCThe 30% up charge is only if I add a new pledge through the iOS Patreon App, and for each new one?
ShadowMage319
2024-08-23 23:08:09 +0000 UTCIf you go through Apple's App store, you'll the upcharge. If you pay through Patreon's website instead of the App, then you shouldn't get the upcharge. But as of November, Apple App users will be hit with a 30% up charge by Apple. What will change by the end of 2025 is that all NEW members of a Patreon Page (not current Patrons like yourself) will start being charged on their subscription date, which is the day of the month that you initially joined the group. So, if you become a Patron of someone that has subscription billing, then you'll be charged on the same day every month. So, if you first pledged on, say, the 30th of the month, then you'll be charge on the 30th of every month unless you leave the group and then rejoin on a different day of the month, then it'll start charging you on the new date that you joined each month. That's how I understand subscription billing at least.
Kairomaru
2024-08-23 08:05:18 +0000 UTCOk. So the up charge would still be added even if it’s through a personal bank card. That sucks. Is this an as if the coming November issue? Like my current memberships are still by the month, first or last Friday of the month?
ShadowMage319
2024-08-23 04:48:47 +0000 UTCYeah, that's about the long and short of it.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 23:07:33 +0000 UTCSo it's not enough for those fucknozzles to shaft their consumer base on getting their products repaired by trying to force them to buy a whole new product no matter how small a repair it is, but now they think they're ENTITLED to the money of content creators who don't owe them a goddamn thing? This is why I am a strict Android user. Get fucked, Tim Cook. Get fucked right in your greedy, money-grubbing pasty white ass.
The Masked Newfag
2024-08-22 22:05:59 +0000 UTCLooks like it. lol
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:44:22 +0000 UTCOne of the upsides to having android I guess.
Robert Walker
2024-08-22 18:39:26 +0000 UTCApple has been getting worse about their greed over the years and we've all seen it, but yeah, this is a new low. We'll all eagerly wait for your return, AceTrainerInc!
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:35:26 +0000 UTCyour pricing is reasonable and you update frequently unlike one author who I made the mistake of following as I really liked his stories. I went with the 10 dollar option to read a story and he only updates once a month at best lol
Jeremie
2024-08-22 18:28:46 +0000 UTCI think i will just cancel it and then when the first rolls around ill subscribe via my pc again any story updates i miss i will binge read when i am back
AceTrainerInc
2024-08-22 18:20:58 +0000 UTCWell looks like i will need to switch from my iphone to my pc to pay for this….. sigh why do these platform owners have to be such greedy bitches
AceTrainerInc
2024-08-22 18:19:02 +0000 UTCThat would be the most direct way to not get the upcharge, I believe.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:11:37 +0000 UTCGlad that you're sticking with me, Jeremie!
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:11:11 +0000 UTCThanks for sticking with me, Benjamin!
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:10:49 +0000 UTCAs far as I'm aware from what Patreon has said in these pictures I shared, it's only Apple's App Store upcharging right now. Not sure if Google will follow suit in the future or not.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 18:10:24 +0000 UTCSo just join creators via a computer and it will be fine
Semexy
2024-08-22 16:56:13 +0000 UTCThe problem is not how it will affect us, but how it will affect the creators. As long as you join as a member via the app the creators will earn less. This is because Apple will start taking a 30% cut.
Semexy
2024-08-22 16:55:30 +0000 UTCSo from now on I should join memberships through a browser?
ShadowMage319
2024-08-22 16:21:59 +0000 UTCgood thing I mostly use the web for Patreon and for when I want to access it at work I use the app on my S24 lol
Jeremie
2024-08-22 15:18:56 +0000 UTCI use the App on IPhone, but I pay my followed creators through a personal card. Will that affect me?
ShadowMage319
2024-08-22 15:00:11 +0000 UTCApple still gets a cut if you do this from the Patreon app same with Google
Kael Hyun
2024-08-22 13:47:21 +0000 UTCI had understood the changes to be affecting google play so I uninstalled the app just to be safe. I may no redownload it as it will keep me off the phone a little more, lol. Will still be here on my computer though.
Benjamin Bravo
2024-08-22 13:30:15 +0000 UTCSo if I'm using the Google Play store then it doesn't affect me?
rangleskov
2024-08-22 13:09:02 +0000 UTCGood thing I used my computer and don’t have the Patreon app I guess, unless Apple tries to force Patreon to roll this increase out to the entire site…
sykartracer
2024-08-22 12:07:25 +0000 UTCWell I charge this through PayPal and not apple
ChaosOmega98
2024-08-22 11:33:28 +0000 UTCWell I use PayPal for this
ChaosOmega98
2024-08-22 11:32:35 +0000 UTCYeah, Patreon's been pushing it for about 2 or 3 years now? I always figured it was only a matter of time before they forced the issue.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 08:22:24 +0000 UTCIt's not just on Apple, Patreon's been looking for an excuse to push rolling subscriptions for a while now. Either way, I do everything I can through a web browser, so no impact to me, but thanks for spreading the word.
twilightwanderer
2024-08-22 08:21:24 +0000 UTCYeah, Apple is getting more and more greedy nowadays.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 08:09:57 +0000 UTCMakes me glad I've been Android only for the last 15 years. Dick move, Apple.
Ommadawn
2024-08-22 07:59:02 +0000 UTCThen you should be safe, Daniel.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:28:43 +0000 UTCI only use my I-phone to view stories all of my subscription payouts including my 10$ one to you is done on my computer Kai.
DanielJ27
2024-08-22 05:26:05 +0000 UTCI got secondhand word poisoning from the sarcasm but chef kiss on it 🤌
Codeninja676 (Brian)
2024-08-22 05:25:37 +0000 UTCGeez, I hope things get better for you, my friend. Apple is just a source of problems it seems.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:20:46 +0000 UTCWell well I'm not surprised. This ontop of someone using my card on apple pay to commit fraud just great atleast I'm a Samsung user instead of I phone
swift arrow
2024-08-22 05:17:07 +0000 UTCYeah, Google doesn't appear to be charging extra fees for being on Patreon. Apple is getting WAY too greedy nowadays.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:11:55 +0000 UTCBut what will Apple do without taking 30% of every Patreon Pledge made through their App? How can they survive as a company with only billions of dollars of profit every year? The sarcasm levels I'm using might be nearing toxic levels at this point, and I apologize for that.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:08:55 +0000 UTCShit but ad least i could use Google
MAEGHT Maxime
2024-08-22 05:07:53 +0000 UTCYeah, that's why I didn't want to switch... But now they're forcing the issue. *Frustrated sigh*
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:07:14 +0000 UTCYou might have to? I think the only way around paying Apple's extra 30% fee is to not use Patreon through their App at all.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 05:06:31 +0000 UTCIf you're on iPhone use the browser to manage your subscriptions or a computer if you have it available it sucks but it's how Apple wants to play
Codeninja676 (Brian)
2024-08-22 05:01:54 +0000 UTCYeah, the subscription thing is a bit annoying. I switched over to it when they first gave the option cause at that point I actually believed the little messages about how cool the new features were was always helpful.
RinneTaicho
2024-08-22 04:55:16 +0000 UTCI already take the application on apple store does it mean i have to take it down or delete it ?
MAEGHT Maxime
2024-08-22 04:54:37 +0000 UTCHA! Good luck with that when people everywhere start going to alternatives so they don't get another penny! Their gonna be left high and dry when instead of making more money, the make less instead!
The Foreign Traveler
2024-08-22 04:54:10 +0000 UTCThe billions of dollars they make every year just aren't enough for them, I guess. Now they want to take from Patreon Creators too.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 04:51:44 +0000 UTCSilly to ask I know but thank you for answering all the same. Bloody Apple...
The Foreign Traveler
2024-08-22 04:49:57 +0000 UTCIf you use anything other than the Apple App store, you should be fine.
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 04:48:46 +0000 UTCIndeed. Thanks for sticking with me!
Kairomaru
2024-08-22 04:48:22 +0000 UTCRedundant to ask I know but I still kind of feel like I should. If your a Patron yourself but used the Patreon website itself to pay for memberships then I'm assuming your fine right?
The Foreign Traveler
2024-08-22 04:46:23 +0000 UTCThen I guess it's a good thing that I've been using Google play app then
Sebastian Pineda
2024-08-22 04:46:09 +0000 UTC
