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Grand Game 595: Claimants

You have teleported behind Safyre.

I stepped out of the aether and into Safyre’s shadow, and for a split-second went unnoticed.

“…must coordinate with Sedgwick,” she was saying. “It’s imperative that we—”

“He’s back,” Nyra blurted, the first to spot me. Unlike Safyre, she was facing me fully. The rest of the forerunners’ command group—Adriel, Farren, Ceruvax, Shael, Anriq, Lucius, the twins, Regus, and Duggar—were also on the barge, along with some fifty other forerunners.

Breaking off, Safyre spun around, her eyes widening as she caught sight of my grinning face.

Before I could say anything, she threw herself forward and wrapped me in a hug. “Michael,” she whispered into my chest. “I thought…”

I closed my arms around her. “It’s done,” I murmured soothingly, understanding her unspoken fears. “And I survived. As did most of the brotherhood.”

Giving me one last squeeze, Safyre stepped back. She was as aware of our watching audience as I was. We’d talk again later—in private. For now, there was forerunner business to attend to. 

“The void tree?” she asked.

“Dead,” I confirmed.

That drew heartfelt sighs from everyone. “Then it is done,” Teresa breathed.

“Mostly,” I agreed.

Ceruvax’s eyes narrowed. “Mostly?” he repeated, latching onto my qualification.

I waved aside his question. “There is a lot I must tell you all, but none of it is urgent. We can discuss the void tree and sector 30,199 later.” I turned my head left and right, taking in the circle of barges and the island they ringed. “For now, let’s concentrate on this sector. How are things going?”

“Slower than we hoped,” Adriel replied. Stepping forward, she brushed her lips against the side of my face. “You did well, Wolf.”

Surprised by her unexpectedly warm greeting, I shrugged uncomfortably. “I couldn’t have done it without any of you.” 

The lich smiled. “I’m not so sure about that.” Before I could respond, her tone turned more business-like. “But as for why things have been moving so slowly…” She gestured at the lake. “The water is the main reason for that.”

I nodded. “You had to build the barges and maneuver them into position. I get that. But they all look to be in place now?”

“They are,” Farren replied. “As always, you have impeccable timing.” The corners of his mouth turned up. “If I didn’t know better, I’d think you deliberately dodged the grunt work.”

I chuckled. “The timing of my arrival is coincidence, no more, I assure you.” My amusement faded. “But tell me: how did the battle end? I didn’t see any forerunner… bodies on the shore. How many did we lose?”

Somber faces and dark eyes greeted my question. It’s bad then, I thought.

“Two hundred and ninety-seven,” Safyre said softly.

I blanched. That was nearly ten percent of our total force. I’d known we would lose people, but I’d been hoping our losses would be more akin to the brotherhood’s. “Why so many?” I whispered, my voice sounding half-strangled to my own ears.

Safyre squeezed my hand. “Six separate packs of hydras broke through the western cordon while we were busy dealing with the harbingers.”

“It was my fault,” Terence said, his eyes downcast.

“No, it was not,” Ceruvax retorted sharply.

“I should have stopped them,” the young knight persisted.

“And I’ve told you a dozen times already, boy, you could not have,” the envoy replied, looking vexed. “None of us could.” His eyes lifted to mine. “It was a pre-planned maneuver.”

“The timing was suspicious,” Lucius agreed. “The tree must have been preparing the offensive in secret, and the harbingers’ arrival provided the perfect opening.” He shrugged. “But as devastating as the lesser hydras’ counterassault was, ultimately, it failed. Terence and the dwarves stopped them before they could shatter our lines.”

Still looking unhappy, Terence opened his mouth to protest, but Teresa kicked him in the shins, silencing him.

I shook my head slowly, still unable to verbalize my own feelings on the matter. Three hundred and ninety-seven dead. It was a veritable butcher’s bill. 

So many. 

The others had said the hydras had broken through while we were preoccupied with ambushing the harbingers. But how many had died after that? How many could I have saved if I’d not pursued the tree into sector 30,199?

“Michael?” Nyra prompted.

Raising my eyes, I found and held Shael’s gaze. “Who did we lose?” As the forerunners’ bard, it would’ve fallen to him to record the names of the dead.

He shifted uncomfortably under my stare. “Uhm… The Bane Wolves suffered the most grievous losses. A few wolfmen perished as well, and some wolves too…”

My gaze drifted in Duggar’s direction.

“The Pack survives,” the dire wolf alpha replied serenely. “The fallen will be missed.” His eyes drove into mine, as if willing me to believe. “But the Pack survives. And that is what counts the most.”

Neither disputing nor agreeing with Duggar’s sentiment, I turned back to Shael. “Tell me the names of the dead.” 

“Huh…”

Safyre touched my arm gently. “Shael has everything written down and recorded,” she assured me. “We can go over it all later and mourn them properly. But right now, we need to focus on—”

“No,” I interjected. “I want to know now. Tell me.”

Safyre flinched.

I was being unnecessarily harsh, I knew. And it was not even Safyre and the others I was angry with. Only myself. It was I who had insisted we claim the sector in nine days. It was I who had left to chase down the tree. 

And in the end, it had cost two-hundred and ninety-seven lives.

There was no running away from that fact. Two hundred and ninety seven people who I’d sworn to protect were dead, and it was all my fault.

Adriel stepped forward. “Go,” she said gently to Safyre. “I will handle him.”

“But—” Safyre protested.

“Go,” the lich insisted. “You have important things to do. All of you do,” she added, raising her voice. She turned back to Safyre, a wry twist to her lips. “And believe it or not, I’ve seen my fair share of death. This is something I know how to deal with.”

Safyre hesitated a moment longer, then with a decisive nod, stepped away.

“I’m sorry, Saf,” I said, speaking to her privately through my telepathy. “I shouldn’t have snapped at you. It’s just…”

Midmotion, she paused and looked back over her shoulder, a sad smile on face. “I understand. It hit me hard too. Speak to Adriel. We’ll talk later.”

✵ ✵ ✵

Adriel wasted no time in sitting me down in what she termed the bow of the barge, which was empty but for the two of us. The barge’s complement of soldiers congregated at the far end—the stern—and the forerunners’ command group had dispersed to the other barges, no doubt to enact whatever final preparations remained.

“You know the dead are not your fault, right?” the lich asked once we were alone.

I sighed. “They were my responsibility.”

She nodded. “They were, but not entirely.”

I glanced up at her. “Meaning?”

She shrugged. “They had free will, the same as you do. They chose to follow you. They chose to fight here today.”

My lips twisted. “So, what? You’re saying they chose to die? That their fate is their fault?”

She didn’t back down from my stare. “Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Mostly, anyway.” She paused. “This is the first time you’ve commanded a battle, isn’t it?”

I shook my head. “I’ve led others before.”

“But this is the first time you have had so many die under your command, isn’t it?” she persisted.

I sighed again. “Yes,” I admitted.

Adriel nodded. “What you are feeling is normal.”

“Normal?” I asked, a sour cast to my face.

“Normal,” she repeated firmly. “As a scion, it is your duty to lead your people responsibly—to not spend their lives frivolously. It is not your duty to save everyone. Sadly, that is impossible to do.”

I bowed my head. “Rationally, I understand what you’re saying. I agree with it too. Hells, before the battle, I even warned myself something like this might happen.” I exhaled. “I thought I was prepared.”

“But the reality is different, isn’t it?” 

I laughed hollowly. “It sure is.”

Adriel sat down beside me. “Have you spoken to Ghost? Sometimes the best remedy is simply sharing the burden.”

I nodded, knowing she was right. “Ghost is asleep, creating her astral simulacrum.”

“Ah,” the lich exclaimed, and although she looked intrigued by my words, she didn’t pursue the matter. “Well, when she awakes, I suggest you have a long discussion with her on the subject.”

“I will. And with Safyre too.”

The lich smiled. “You should do that.”

I patted her hand. “Thank you, Adriel.”

“You’re welcome, Wolf.” She rose to her feet. “Now, if you’re done moping, there’s work to be done.”

✵ ✵ ✵

It took another hour to finish our preparations, and I spent that time, traveling from barge to barge, reacquainting myself with everyone. Despite our losses, the mood amongst the army was upbeat, jubilant even. 

They had done the impossible and survived. 

And they were justifiably ecstatic about the fact. In the face of such happiness, my own dourness evaporated. It would have been churlish to try to hold onto it, really. And Safyre, Adriel, and the others had the right of it. 

While the dead should be mourned, the living came first—always.

Thus, when the moment we had all been waiting for arrived, I greeted it with as much excitement as the others.

A faction has staked a claim to sector 18,240!

The Forerunners have established a cordon of more than 1,000 soldiers around the sector’s safe zone. If the cordon remains unbroken for another 24 hours, ownership of sector 18,240 will transfer to the Forerunners.

“We’ve done it!” Anriq exclaimed fiercely.

The command group had gathered anew on a single barge, and this time around, the various captains had also joined in. 

“Not quite,” Regus cautioned. But despite his words, the wolfman was grinning broadly. “We still have twenty-four hours to go.”

“Bah, it’s a done deal,” Sedgwick retorted. “There’s nothing that can stop our claim now.”

I said nothing, but privately I agreed with the dwarven merchant’s assessment.

“What now?” Nyra asked, voicing the question on everyone’s minds, and perhaps unsurprisingly, it was not to me they turned to for answers, but Safyre.

The aetherist, standing shoulder to shoulder with me, glanced in my direction, fielding the question to me.

I shook my head minutely. “You should answer,” I told her privately.

She arched one eyebrow in silent query.

“You are as much their leader as I am, and you earned their trust during the battle. Let’s not return to the previous status quo. Lead them.” I inhaled. “And besides, this sector will be yours. When it comes to matters relating to it, you are the ultimate authority.”

 Safyre did not refuse the responsibility I thrust upon her. “We wait,” she said aloud. Her gaze found mine again. “And while we do, perhaps we should hear Michael’s tale.”

Comments

The number of dead is inconsistent. “Two hundred and ninety-seven,” Safyre said softly. and then later, Three hundred and ninety-seven dead. It was a veritable butcher’s bill. 

Sarah Warren

Heh... "How I met your mother".... Grand Game style. Edit: After thinking it over I realized I didn't like some of the implications my joke here suggests. So to clarify... all I really mean is I could see Michael in 1000 years telling the story of his Ascension to his children as they approach their 18th birthday (at least the oldest assuming he had more than one) as a caution for the danger of the Game. Short of that I can't see him actually trusting anyone else enough.

David Brewer

Do you guys notice how he keeps speaking in present/past tense? I hope at the end he’s like relaying this story to someone as he’s a thousand years old or something after the primes are back. That would make a surprising ending.

Grady Perry

Prob not today.

obiwann

Any news on new chapters?

Leonardo De Sousa Cordeiro

Random thought while waiting for chapter drops… wouldn’t it be something if ghost could operate her astral projection while safe in the cloak? This could allow for ghost to be completely safe and attack the minds of foes!!

obiwann

I’m on book 1 audible almost at the end again

Michael valerio

I'm dying

wilbur henn

Tom please echapers

wilbur henn

To all fellow Tom Elliot/Grand Game loyalists, i am going to start binge reading the series from the beginning again so when I catch back up to here I will have missed a few chapters and will be over joyed with the new ones that came out. If you would like to join me i will be starting tomorrow at book 1 and going until I get back to here. Happy reading, and may darkness always shelter you.

Grady Perry

'“Spell-illiterate,” Adriel finished for me. “Trust me, I haven’t forgotten that particularly nasty trait of yours. Blood spells—all blood memories, for that matter—are not true spells or abilities. None of them use mana, stamina, or psi. This is part of what makes them superior to Force abilities.”' It's not especially relevant now, but if I'd remembered this nugget I'd have quoted it sooner. The obvious implication of Adriel's comment being that Michael being spell-illiterate would potentially preclude him from any number of force abilities... because he can't cast mana based spells. Whereas blood memories that function like spells are permitted. "spell illiterate: cannot cast mana-based spells."

David Brewer

Fair.

David Brewer

Oh I agree with that on all counts… I would actually assume Loken higher… but a couple levels higher t me doesn’t translate to being able to pierce doppelgänger…. That being said… when the adjudicator said discoverable only the highest levels of perception… I assumed we talking about Loken an co. My point was tho that mc should eventually be able to outclass Loken in every way.

obiwann

I mean, yes Loken probably only has between 600-700 attribute points. But that does ignore extra* attribute traits, or attribute stones he may have acquired. But given deception is governed by perception... it would be unreasonable to assume Loken doesn't have high perception (compared to Michael if nothing else). And as insight (analyze) also is governed by perception it's fair to assume he has a reasonably high tier analyze. He may not have "max" tier, but definitely one at various Power level tiers (7+). With those assumptions in hand, we can be fairly confident that Loken could probably pierce Michael's doppelganger. Yes, if Michael were level 500 or maybe even just 450 with deception skill and, if available, upgraded doppelganger to match (aka a tier 8-9 version) I might be willing to agree he could deceive Loken. Truthfully, the upgraded doppelganger may not even be needed even if it exists, but the additional perception and deception levels are vital. But sadly for Michael he's only level 282 and doesn't have any idea as yet where to find a tier 7+ dungeon. Hence, why I'm fairly confident he can trick most minor Powers, a lot of the major Powers (unless they are super high perception/insight builds), but among the Supreme Powers he can't expect doppelganger to suffice except for those that have limited focus on perception. In most cases, he's probably fine (high tier watchers like Albion bank being another possible concern)... but Loken isn't most cases. It would be foolish to underestimate his ability to pierce deceptions. Edit: Also, we don't actually know what level Loken was when he slaughtered House Serpent. It's fair to assume he was 250+, and it's unlikely he wasn't an elite all things considered. But he may have a trait similar to Safyre giving him an extra attribute point every other level. Which if true would put him closer to 800-900 attribute points. By "high" perception, I meant Loken’s perception shouldn't be assumed to be less than Michael's.

David Brewer

But if Loken doesn’t have that… then he has to spend increasingly expensive attribute points on leveling up skills… as he got higher in lvl he had to be pickier and n where he deployed them. Mc on the other hand when he reaches the sample level should be crazy times more powerful. Shit Man U probably know the math

obiwann

I’m not saying they would HAVE to attack… I’m saying they would get the warning…. And they would pause so he would still protect them in that way

obiwann

Mm even if that were the most relevant detail, which it isn't. His attributes are high compared to level 300 players... not level 600. So while many Powers (likely even major Powers true be told) may lack the dedicated perception focus to overpower his deception... I'd doubt Loken does. And then, the skill level comparison becomes important and Michael loses there hands down.

David Brewer

To be fair, it's quite reasonable to assume you can break the link between a player and your house. But that doesn't mean there doesn't exist a way to do so more extreme than even the lich making ritual. I mean Adriel is proof you can sever the link tying you to your House. It's just that becoming a lich doesn't leave you as a player or able to bind yourself to a new path... aka she can't become Darksworn. It's rather inconceivable that he in essence found a ritual that purged his blood memories, broke his ties to Serpent, AND left him a player so he could go on to become a Shadow Power. But it IS theoretically possible. I'll confess, I find it more likely he either wasn't Serpent, or that he's still Serpent. But that's my opinion, and with it and $2 you can get a candy bar.

David Brewer

Yes, but we’ve been over his attributes surpasses level

obiwann

Yes, but even if the Doppelganger ability doesn't have a tier 12 version (which might be true) Loken does likely have deception skill of roughly 600. Michael has around 260. It's different. I'm not disagreeing that Michael may be able to fool some Powers, especially minor Powers, but Loken and the others as mentioned would be a bigger challenge.

David Brewer

Loken did have the advantage of being "trusted" and truthfully we don't actually know the details of how he destroyed Serpent. Maybe he provided a rank 60 Harbinger access to Serpent Prime.

David Brewer

I don’t believe that power scales, one to one. There was a definition that said that his doppelgänger ability was only discoverable by extremely high perception. I think at some point you get to where your shit is not discoverable. And even if it were because of how you have to scale or invest your attributes, not everyone is going to invest in things like a high tier or the highest level tier of analyze. if Logan says he can fool most powers… it implies that there is a gap and it probably depends on where you’ve invested your skills. Michael is on path to be just as skilled at deception if not more so than Loken

obiwann

Come on our boy can absorb spells. First of his kind. We are already at world breaking lol

obiwann

It’s because of him slaughtering the house and the primes that made me think that potentially Michael might be able to beat someone who is super high-level with the right planning

obiwann

If you awaken your blood its permanent which means he killed a prime while having neither which is crazy and he also must have been a powerful initiate as evolving to a power requires either house or force marks.And he did not have a force mark as they would have tried to kill him

wilbur henn

Also if loken comes there will be a power with them and there is no way any of them survive unless loken beats them up and leaves them alone or he is secretly good and wants the houses to come back

wilbur henn

To be fair, not all of them would have identify (or at least potentially not all). But I'll concede you're likely correct that Michael's deception isn't up to defeating the Powers at this time.

David Brewer

I want to see him meet stayne again maybe kill him

wilbur henn

It wouldn't matter doppelganger is a tier 6 ability their identify is probably tier 12

wilbur henn

I hope there's a fight between him loken and Michael when he's a prime . I feel like loken and the void father's are the big baddies

wilbur henn

I probably would have agreed prior to the conversation between Michael and Kartara where she explained why she was certain he's merely a powerful Initiate. She was absolutely confident that Cait tearing out a clump of fur would grant her a warning had Michael been a Power. This, despite the deception and despite the trivial nature of her "attack". As such it seems unlikely that the Power could force that permission by stepping into your attacks. Obviously you may be correct. But I'm thinking it's not that simple.

David Brewer

Definitely plausible. Edit: I'm going to expand this a little. I'm not insisting the above theories are correct, or even more likely. But consider this, if he'd awoken his bloodline like when Michael did it had two significant impacts. One it bound him (Loken) eternally to Serpent. And two it stripped any Force marks. Thus, what you are describing sounds an awful lot like becoming forsworn. Now perhaps he did just that and was close enough to 250 (or even above it) to earn his powerful Initiate mark (or he earned it slaughtering Serpent Powers) once the Power of Serpent he was sworn to was dead. But Adriel noted that becoming a lich is not unlike becoming forsworn... but she still retains her blood memories. The final point being, while your theory has the advantage of being straightforward and seemingly simple... it does require a few more details regarding certain things. The primary question being, "How did Loken sever his eternal link to Serpent?"

David Brewer

Rationally we can assume that he awakened his blood memories. It sounds like he forsook them in favor of force abilities.

mark janson

I don’t know I feel like you guys are looking at this all wrong. If you’re a power, you can walk in front of your people get in between them in every confrontation and as soon as you’re engaged, you can engage back if anything this will cause people to think twice before attacking.

obiwann

I hope I'm right too.

David Brewer

True. I hope you're right. I can't wait to see what the adjudicator grants them.

David

I know, right? It definitely plays into his ego of the Primes being evil because they are to powerful. Thus only he can be one... because with only him the "war" of the Houses won't happen.

David Brewer

That would be a wicked twist.

Camran

Hopefully... but I just had a crazier idea. We don't actually know that Loken IS shadowsworn. Even he admits he can trick people into believing he's a dark Power. It's just twisty enough that the fucker could be Serpent, and is pretending to be a shadow Power. I doubt it, but it's Loken.

David Brewer

I bet we will learn more after Michael saves saya. Which is coming up next

Camran

If he knows, he likely "knows" that sector 18,240 is nearly lost to the void. It's not likely he or his minions will show... besides we've plenty of reasons to believe that Loken is waiting for his trap with Saya to snare him a new pet wolf.

David Brewer

Yeah Loken’s history is a giant question mark... and the worst part is the world's least reliable narrator is the only one that knows the truth.

David Brewer

I still have a nagging feeling Loken knows and will show up. Michael was still under his tracking spell when he discovered the sector. I hope they make it through the 24hrs.

David

Also true. Can't wait to hear more of lokens backstory.

Camran

That I don't know. But if his Serpent mark wasn't that deep yet, it's possible he wasn't bound to Serpent and so could bind himself to Shadow instead... it's also conceivable that he bound himself to Shadow long before the rebellion. He may have rejected the blood memories of Serpent because he literally couldn't accept them. Again, as for why? I haven't the faintest idea. Edit: Hell, some of the other speculations we made regarding the fall of the Houses was that the Void Fathers had somehow snuck their branches into the conflict. Maybe they somehow coaxed, forced, or tricked Loken into becoming shadowsworn before he awakened his blood.

David Brewer

Ah right. But what about prior to slaughtering his house. He must've been at least a house elite by then.

Camran

Mm Loken never awakened his blood. If you'll recall this... '“Now, what I wouldn’t have given to be there for that,” he said, a big grin splitting his face. “Being fooled by a young wolf must have been a bitter pill for the Betrayer to swallow.” “Why do you keep calling him that?” I asked with a fond smile of my own at the memory. Ceruvax’s mirth died. “Have you heard of Serpent House?” I shook my head. “They were a powerful House. One that delighted in shrouding itself in mystery as much as Wolf did. But despite how close-mouthed the House was about their affairs, they were not able to keep word spreading of one of their rising stars… Loken.” I sat up, my curiosity piqued. Loken had implied he’d been born into a House, but as always with the trickster, there was no telling how far his words could be trusted. “The feats he was rumored to have accomplished,” Ceruvax continued, “the dungeons he was said to have completed, and the foes he’d purportedly vanquished, all of it left little doubt in the minds of the Houses that one day Loken would ascend to Primehood. In fact, many believed he would become the strongest incarnation of Serpent yet and carry his House into greatness.” Ceruvax bowed his head, lost in his memories. “Then what happened?” I prompted. “Loken slaughtered his entire House,” he said bluntly. “No one knows how he managed the feat, but there is no doubt he did it, killing everyone from the lowliest scion to the Prime herself.” My brows drew down. There was a coldness in Loken. I’d seen it myself, but to murder an entire House? “Is that why he is called the Betrayer?” I asked when Ceruvax said nothing further. “What? No. A scion slaughtering members of his own House, while frowned upon, was not exactly unheard of. No, what Loken did was worse. Much worse…” Once more, Ceruvax fell silent. This time, I waited patiently for him to go on. “He rejected their blood memories,” the old wolf whispered finally. “The dead’s, I mean. In so doing, he doomed the fallen scions to wander the Game forever and left the bloodline badly crippled.”'

David Brewer

I see your point. But I still have hope.

Camran

Yeah, that's not talking about talking both forcesworn and housebound paths, but rather the two paths of Ascendancy. As far as I've seen they are all mutually exclusive... which is why the dire wolves bullied Michael into awakening his blood in book 2. If he had advanced a force mark much further he'd have been bound to that force, and if he'd advanced his wolf mark a little further he'd be bound that way. Awakening his blood was a shortcut to force the link, akin to assuming an force class. This doesn't mean your theory can't or won't happen, mind. It's definitely possible, but I wouldn't expect it.

David Brewer

But if you think about it loken must have his house abilities as well as his force ones. Maybe that was what made them strong enough to kill the primes.

Camran

I think it was that or his long conversation with ceravax.

Camran

Do you recall which book that comment was in? Because that sounds like the conversation Adriel had with Michael where she explained the two paths of Ascendancy. The path of leveling and the path of deepening your power mark and your house mark (for Michael's case his Wolf mark). Edit: This, from book 6 chapter 428? "As both Ceruvax and Adriel had mentioned previously, there were two paths to power in the Game: the first was by means of player levels, and the second was through deepening my Wolf and Power Marks. Neither path was mutually exclusive. And thus far, I’d been treading both. In fact, according to Ceruvax and Adriel, many ancients in the past had done so too."

David Brewer

Well in earlier chapters it was mentioned that there were beings in ancient times that practiced both paths, but doing so is twice as difficult but also doubles in rewards.

Camran

I don't disagree that what Michael is doing is somewhat revolutionary and merits a paradigm shift... but getting both seems extremely unlikely. Have a choice of which to obtain? That gets a definite maybe. But that also doesn't really benefit Michael... as blood memories are always better than force abilities. But the idea of getting to double up on "free" abilities is serious. The groundbreaking idea of it, is why in previous discussions I've had with a few others we've speculated that perhaps Michael will get a way to unlock blood memories by say killing forcesworn players or even scions not of Wolf not just Wolf scions as is the norm. Or perhaps by killing stygians given how the Game was created in part to fight them. Or possibly letting Forcesworn Forerunners obtain Force abilities in a fashion more akin to scions (aka, they are able to use Force abilities pre-200 and have more slots than "normal" forcesworn). Something like that, likely some combination of both. Something to benefit both "halves" of his new House.

David Brewer

So your saying it is wishful thinking. Which is fair but think about what Michael is doing trying to unite both forcesworn and the houses under one roof. Wouldn't the best way to do that be both. And I understand that it would normally be impossible but the chalice is a game changing artifact,so I have hope.

Camran

That's unlikely. Force abilities are the result of binding yourself to a Force, and Michael is bound to Wolf. Besides, until he reaches 300 it would be unreasonable for him to obtain any Force abilities or Blood memories of true value as elites (housebound and forcesworn) only get 1 greater ability. I'm also uncertain if he's in a position to do that yet... although he could maybe doppelganger himself into a darksworn to enter the dark quarter. Giving him an opportunity to infiltrate Paya's palace to get the chalice. Edit: In theory if the Adjudicator let him get a greater Force ability AND his blood memories that could be pretty overpowered, but that seems unlikely. Him getting a way to unlock his blood memories despite the lack of scions is more appropriate and less world breaking.

David Brewer

I agree. Thank you for your input. I was hoping that stealing the chalice from the awakened dead would give him access to force abilities. Which would make Michael even more overpowered.

Camran

... You mean he won't be able to help them against players that aren't yet Powers directly. Let's be fair, while Safyre (as an example) is no longer forsworn her friends still are. Thus they are vulnerable to Powers if they were discovered. And ultimately, he is going to find himself in conflict with the new Powers... and him dying because he is level 299 instead of level 350 or 450 won't help them either. As I said, I do agree Michael should try and find time to get all his skills to level 300 prior to becoming a young Blood. But his circumstances may not permit it. Edit: And honestly, even more important than getting his regular skills another 30 or so levels... is getting his void mage skills over 200. He has all these nifty null force, elemental absorption, null life, and null death... but they are so low as to be all but useless. Getting them to 200 (or better 210) would make him noticeably harder to kill.

David Brewer

Yes but when he becomes a power he won't be able to help his friends directly.

Camran

Heh, Michael slow down? Pretty sure he's under the impression if he doesn't speedrun becoming Wolf Prime, the universe will implode. To be totally transparent, I agree he should get all of his skills closer to 300... I just don't think he will.

David Brewer

I want to see how strong Michael can become as an envoy. That is to say I want to him remain an envoy for a little bit longer so his skills catch up.

Camran

To be fair... despite how callous this will sound their losses are actually light compared to the Brotherhood. They faced 3 harbingers, 2 overlords, a massive nest of stygians, and did so while the tree was rooted and mostly unafraid of their "assault". And they did this, with what? A dozen players (the forsworn mages were focused on the shield) and not quite 3 thousand people? (To be fair, they did have the wolfmen and nagians that are closer to players than not... so maybe 400 players) Each of the 83 Brotherhood losses had they died in any other sector would have likely had at least 1 likely 2 or even 3 more lives to risk. Thus it's fair to double count their players... so 83 becomes 166 (maybe 249 even, as the Brotherhood regularly clears rifts and tries to avoid the Game). And each of those players also has the ability to evolve and if not become a Power (as many can't) they could have become elites or even envoys. The dead Forerunners (tragic? Yes.) really didn't have any potential for improvement. Yes, over the years they can grow and level... but for non-players to become even merely an elite is probably insanely rare. Thus, the 83 Brotherhood players are an even more damning loss. Finally, as some of us noted at the end of Book 8... this is a critical lesson for Michael. It's the opportunity for him to grow beyond being a simple lone Wolf and learn to face the burdens he has chosen to embrace. Leadership is painful... unless you feel no value for those that you command. But it's easy to second guess yourself in a situation like this, as Michael was doing before Adriel explained. Edit: Not meant as a scold... just saying I think this is a better outcome than fewer losses.

David Brewer

Thanks for the chapter.

Harley Dalton Jr.

Thanks Again you finally cleared up all my gray areas! Now I will be able understand the future progressions going forward!

Unseenforce

Ah, well there is a skill cap of only 6 skills per class. But each skill also levels up which allows a player to learn progressively more powerful abilities. To be more clear, when Michael became a scout he gained the skills short blades, sneaking, and dodge. Each of those skills has a limit as I outlined above to how many levels in THAT skill he can obtain based on the number of attribute points he spends on the governing attribute. But his scout class also had 3 empty skill slots where he put light armor, thieving, and two weapon fighting. Every ability (i.e. backstab) has a governing attribute and skill... the number of attribute points determines how many ability slots the player has for ALL abilities governed by that attribute. The tier of an ability affects the number of slots that are needed to learn but you also need to have leveled the governing skill sufficiently. Thus, to learn a tier 2 ability requires 5 ability slots (i.e. 5 attribute points) and 50 skill in the appropriate skill. Finally, each player can have 3 classes (civilians excluded). Each class can "slot" 6 different skills as I mentioned above. Thus each player has a maximum of 18 skills, that can each level to 10x the related attribute, and allow upgraded abilities every 50 levels. Edit: It's also important to note that some abilities are "class" abilities which have the distinction of not requiring ability slots, but require the use of class points to upgrade. The player does need to meet the skill requirement for such abilities.

David Brewer

Mmm more like nightmare fuel. Him being near those pyschos would be dangerous enough right now... being near while not wearing a doppelganger to hide his powerful Acolyte mark... mm death.

David Brewer

"There’s nothing that can stop our claim now.”... moments later 3 beings teleport onto the nearby hill as alerts of our shield generator failing barely having had time to register... .. straining to see, I go white as a sheet as the shapes of Tarter, Loken, and an unknown come into view.... OK just kidding.. but a man can dream lol

obiwann

Thanks David you cleared up a lot of my confusion. I thought there was a Skill Cap of 6 Skills maximum slots also I thought I remember in Book 1 or was I mistaken. Or is there another mechanic that allows an increase is the amount of skill slots available like the ability slots as Michael progresses through the tiers. On Book 4 and won’t look Michael’s Character Sheet until the end of Book 4. Let me know if you can shed light on how many skills are allowed or if there are No Skill Caps or Maximum Slots for Skills or yes indeed the Caps increase as he progresses through tiers? Thanks 🙏 again Pete

Unseenforce

Thank you for the chapters! The wait continues for the next chapters. Eagerly awaiting them. Keep up the great work!

Zeroxis

Micheal over here about to start staring in a mirror saying "war... war never changes. "

Blakuis Woolf

Attributes directly define the skill cap. A player with an attribute score of 1 can only raise any skill related to that attribute to 10. This can be seen if you review some of Michael's end of book sheets as Tom generally provides the "max" skill for each... but the simplest way to see this occurred in book one. When Michael was sneaking around he reaches stealth skill 20 and gets a message that he's presently capped. His dexterity (governing attribute) was still the baseline 2 from his original class trait. Edit: It's relevant to note that attribute skill caps really are only significant until the player reaches between levels 50-100. By that time one's attributes of importance will be high enough that the "soft" skill cap will dominate. Which is to say the Grand Game rewards you for challenges and taking risks... thus just like it's difficult to gain levels by killing opponents of the same tier (every 50 levels are loosely grouped and referenced as a tier. Tier 1 = levels 1-49 for example) it's increasingly difficult to level skills when you are fighting opponents whose levels are comparable to your skill level. Thus, if you have level 50 sneaking, it's possible if slow to level it further by sneaking near level 40 enemies...it's much slower to level if sneaking near level 10 enemies. As a result, pending how a particular player "hunts" a soft cap emerges on skills which can only change by fighting higher level foes.

David Brewer

Nice but I hope there are some more fights in the near future and not much politicking

wilbur henn

I was hoping for way less dead too… 4 elites took down harbingers an overlords… was hoping for way less 😭

obiwann

Just started Grand Series on Audible. On Book 4. Need a clarification please. “How do Attributes Influence Skills and Raise Skill Caps???” I am binging this series while I commute to work. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Unseenforce

Damn, that was more dead than was expected with the way things were going, suppose its neccessary to show the cost of things tho. You do have an error on the numbers, second time he mentions the dead its increased to 397, then back down to 297..

Seraquel


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