Grand Game 561: Sealing the Deal
Added 2025-01-17 15:36:19 +0000 UTCAn hour later, my netherstone safely in my pocket, we reconvened in the brotherhood castle.
“So, you spoke truly,” Kartara began without preamble.
The huntmistress, her three advisors, and I were sitting around the large ornate table in the library. The four congregated at the head of the table while I’d been relegated to the bottom end. The table had been designed to seat more than twenty and the space between us yawned wide—which was no accident, I thought.
“I did,” I said simply.
She leaned forward. “But you failed to mention a few things.”
“Oh?”
“Like the fact that the harbinger is accompanied by a few thousand lesser serpents,” Cait replied.
“And seventy elites we know nothing about!” Duskar added with a growl.
I arched one eyebrow. So… the brotherhood had not come across the nagas previously either. That was interesting. The four had been close-mouthed during our time in the nether, communicating with each other primarily by farspeaker link, so this was my first insights on what they’d thought about the stygian army.
“I have information about the nagas,” I said evenly.
Kartara’s eyes narrowed. “You do?”
Retrieving a scale from my backpack, I slid it across the table.
“What’s this?” Senzo asked, trapping the thing under his hand before it could skitter past.
“A naga scale,” I replied laconically. “We’ve killed a few already.”
Duskar looked torn between mocking my claim and demanding to know how. Letting the orc stew, I turned back to Kartara. But the huntmistress’ head was already bent downward, examining the scale Senzo had handed to her.
“What is this stuff?” she murmured, more to herself than anyone else, I thought.
I responded, nevertheless. “I have it on good authority it’s a void crystal composite.”
Kartara inhaled sharply, Senzo’s eyes widened, Cait’s head whipped around to stare at the scale in the huntmistress’ hand, and even Duskar looked stunned.
“I take it from your reactions that you all understand the significance of that?” I asked, breaking the sudden quiet.
Not deigning to answer, the huntmistress handed the scale to the nether witch who examined it minutely.
“He’s right,” she pronounced once she was done.
Leaning back in her chair, the huntmistress stared across the table at me. “You appear to have more resources at your disposal than you’ve led us to believe.”
I tilted my head to the side. “How’s that?”
“There are only a handful of people outside the brotherhood who could identify the scale’s composition,” she replied. “Who is your expert?”
“An ally,” I replied vaguely. “One of many.”
“And will your ‘allies’ be joining us on this expedition?” Duskar growled.
“Definitely,” I said, hiding a smile. The question itself was a tacit admission that the brotherhood had been intrigued enough by what they’d learned to consider my offer.
Kartara threw the voidknight a warning look. “Our own participation is yet to be decided.”
I shrugged. “That is why we are here, after all. Isn’t it?”
Instead of answering directly, Kartara fielded my question with one of her own. “How did you find that sector?”
“Excuse me?”
She gestured toward the Nethersphere map still spread out across the center of the table. “The brotherhood has never heard of it before. We have no record of any rift forming between sector 30,199 and Nexus, or to any other sector for that matter.”
“That comes as no surprise,” I replied evenly. “I am the first player to set foot sector 30,199.”
Stark silence followed my response.
My gaze fixed on the huntmistress, I let it build. I could almost see the calculations running behind her eyes as she put things together.
“Where is the young void tree Kesh mentioned?” she asked finally.
“On the other side of the rift.”
Kartara nodded. She had already worked out that much for herself, I realized. “And the four overlords?”
“Also on the other side.”
Again, my response did not seem to surprise the huntmistress. “And what sector is that?”
I shook my head. “That you do not need to know.”
Understandably, a chorus of protests followed in the wake of my words.
“Unacceptable!” Duskar declared, slamming a mailed fist down on the table.
“Ridiculous,” Cait snapped.
“You cannot expect us to launch an assault with such crucial information lacking,” Senzo said, shaking his head.
Only Kartara said nothing. Raising her hand, she silenced the others. “Then you mean for us to be decoys.” It was not a question.
“Decoys?” Senzo wondered aloud. “Us?”
“What in blazes does that mean?” Duskar demanded, whipping around to pin his huntmistress with a hard stare.
“It means,” Kartara explained, her eyes never leaving mine, “that ‘Havick’ and his allies intend on assaulting the void tree and the overlords on the other side of the rift while we stop the nagas and the harbinger from interfering.” She tilted her head. “I’ve got that right, haven’t I?”
I nodded expressionlessly. “You have.”
Cait bowed her head. “Foolishness,” she muttered under her breath.
Duskar was more unrestrained in his commentary. “Taking on a young void tree? And without the brotherhood’s help? That’s the most damnably stupid thing I’ve ever heard of!”
Once more the huntmistress reined in her subordinates. “What makes you think you and your allies can defeat a young void tree?” she asked when they subsided.
I sat back, deliberating how much to say. “I’m a psionic,” I said eventually.
Senzo shook his head. “That won’t help you against the tree nearly as much as you think. It’s defenses are—”
“I know,” I interjected. “But my own psi defenses are strong enough to resist the tree’s mental assault. I will be able to approach it unimpeded.”
Duskar grunted. “That may be. But you will still have to contend with the mists. The nether toxicity around the tree will be over—”
Kartara cut him off. “Havick has the nether absorption skill.”
Cait raised her head. “He does?”
The huntmistress nodded.
Senzo put it together quicker than the others. “He is the one Kesh sold our skillbook to?”
Kartara nodded again.
“Well, damn,” the spymaster said, sitting back.
The huntmistress turned back to me. “I grant you its plausible that you might get close enough to the tree to launch a physical attack, but you still haven’t accounted for the overlord and the no doubt thousands of lesser stygians protecting the tree. How will you deal with them?”
I hesitated. I didn’t know how the brotherhood would react to what I said next, but it was crucial I gained their input. “This is where I need your expertise.”
“I knew it!” Duskar exclaimed.
Ignoring the orc, I went on. “There is a river.”
A frown flickered across Kartara’s face. “A river?”
“Yes. It borders the void tree on three sides. My people are fairly certain they can flood the valley the nest sits in.” I paused, then added reluctantly, “The only thing we don’t know for certain is what effect the water will have on the stygians.”
The huntmistress’ expression didn’t change. “Tell him, Cait.”
The elf turned my way. “You should know by now that the void’s creatures, especially the lesser stygians, are not truly solid.”
I nodded. The stygians’ bodies were formed of a shadowy ichor that ordinary physical weapons passed through harmlessly. “Go on.”
Cait shrugged. “It’s simple really. Immerse a stygian in enough water and it will disrupt the internal bonds formed between the nether residue and plasma constituting the creature’s body, reducing its cohesiveness.”
I drummed my fingers on the table. “And what does that mean? Practically speaking.”
Duskar laughed. “Practically speaking? It means water will weaken a stygian’s attacks and defenses but will not otherwise hurt the creature.”
I looked at Cait for confirmation.
She nodded. “That’s another way of putting it.”
I frowned. “I see.”
“That is not all, though,” the nether witch said.
I glanced at her questioningly.
“The water will not only disrupt the internal integrity of a stygian, it will remain in place, replacing many of the creature’s internal nether bonds with water ones.”
I threw her a blank stare.
Grimacing, the witch added, “In effect, a stygian drenched in water will be abnormally vulnerable to water-based attacks and spells.”
I smiled. “Now, that is information I can use,” I murmured.
“Then, you believe you and your allies are capable of destroying the nest on the other side of the rift?” Kartara asked, rejoining the conversation.
I nodded. “I do.”
She pursed her lips, but didn’t voice the skepticism I could see in her gaze.
“What else have not told us?” she asked.
“The mature tree in sector 30,199 is a five-hour journey south of the rift.” I paused. “It is guarded by three other harbingers and thousands of other chimeras.”
“Chimeras?” Cait demanded. “What sort of chimeras?”
“Failed experiments,” I told her. “Mismatched creatures that should prove no threat. I only mention them—” I glanced at Kartara—because of our previous conversation.”
The huntmistress nodded slowly. “You’ve found one, then.”
“Found one?” I echoed.
“A stygian creche.”
“I must see it,” Cait breathed.
Kartara shook her head. “It is too far.”
“But—”
“No,” the huntmistress pronounced, ending the discussion. She turned back to me. “What else?”
“There is nothing left to tell,” I said. “Now you know everything I do about the threat we’re facing.”
The huntmistress did not challenge my statement. “And what do you require from us—specifically?”
I shrugged. “All I need from the brotherhood is for you to stop the harbinger and nagas from entering the rift. How you go about that, we can discuss, but I will not dictate your strategy.”
“For how long do you need us to hold the stygians at bay?” Senzo asked.
“Four hours—tops,” I replied firmly.
Kartara nodded. “You don’t want to risk the second nest involving itself.” She pressed her palms together, thinking. “What are you offering in exchange?”
“What do you want?” I asked bluntly.
“The netherstone,” was her immediate reply.
My denial was just as swift. “No.”
Kartara opened her mouth, but I held up my hand forestalling her. “The netherstone is too valuable, I will not part with it. But there is a harbinger at the rift. Kill it, and an unmarked netherstone is yours for the taking.”
“That presumes we will have time to harvest the black stone,” Cait said.
I glanced at her. “Meaning?”
“Meaning, removing the stone intact is no small endeavor. It will take time, and more importantly, must be done with exacting care—something nearly impossible to do during a raging battle, or while fleeing a larger incoming force.”
Senzo nodded. “It’s why we ourselves have more netherstone fragments than we do actual stones. Invariably, we are forced to rush their harvesting.”
I frowned. I’d not observed Ceruvax extract the black stone he’d given me, but I saw no reason for the nether witch and spymaster to lie, and besides it would be easy enough to get Adriel to confirm the truth of their words.
“What about hiding the body?” I suggested.
Duskar’s brows crinkled. “How would that help?”
I held up my netherstone. “Once things have quietened down, you can go back to sector 30,199 with this and retrieve the harbinger’s corpse, then harvest it at your leisure.”
“That requires you to survive the battle,” he grumbled.
“No, it doesn’t,” I contradicted. “It only requires the brotherhood to survive.” I held up the black stone again. “For the duration of the battle, this will be in your keeping. If I die, the stone remains in your possession and the point about the harbinger becomes moot. If I live, I get my stone back after you recover the harbinger.”
Kartara cast me an appraising look. “You will trust the netherstone to our keeping?”
I grimaced, making no attempt to disguise my true feelings on the matter. “I have no choice but to. I will be on the other side of the rift for the duration of the battle.”
She nodded. “What else are you offering us?”
My brows rose in surprise. “Isn’t the harbinger’s netherstone enough?”
She shook her head. “There is no guarantee we will manage to kill it. They are damnably hard to slay, and the risk is high it will flee before we manage the feat.”
I pursed my lips. “Take the nagas, then. Their corpses are yours.”
She eyed me. “All of them?”
“All,” I confirmed, squelching the urge to negotiate further.
“That is generous of you,” she murmured.
A wry smile touched my lips. “Not entirely. I will need something else from you in exchange.”
Her brows drew down. “Like what?”
I ticked off points on my fingers. “Stygian weapons. Armor. And tier eight nether crystals or potions. Enough to equip a force of three thousand.” I glanced at the nether witch. “Something to grant my people clearsight wouldn’t go amiss either.”
Duskar roared uproariously. “He’s funny!”
“I’m not sure the corpses of seventy nagas will cover the cost of all that,” Kartara said carefully.
I smiled. “I rather think it will, especially once your people realize what they can do with the nagas’ remains.” I jerked my chin at the scale still resting on the far end of the table. “Keep that and show it to your crafters. I’m certain you’ll be convinced thereafter.”
Kartara inclined her head. “I’ll think on it.”
My lips turned down. The huntmistress was being more reticent than anticipated. “It’ll be an investment too,” I added.
She arched one eyebrow. “Oh?”
“If we succeed and close the rift, the brotherhood will have unfettered access to sector 30,199 for years to come. Imagine what you could do with that.”
“That’s a big if,” she pointed out.
“I won’t dispute that, but wasn’t it you who was bemoaning the rest of the Kingdom’s lack of interest in the stygian menace?” I spread my arms. “Well, here I am, trying to do what you said no player cared to—push back the void. And the best part? The risk to the brotherhood will be minimal. You will not be facing the void tree. You will not be taking on the overlords. My people will. And all I’m asking in return is that you arm us appropriately and stop the harbinger and the nagas from interfering.”
I leaned forward. “Now, will you do it?”
The huntmistress’ response was not the enthusiastic and immediate ‘yes’ I would have preferred. Instead, after scrutinizing me long enough to leave me doubting my impassioned plea, she glanced around the table, polling her advisors.
Cait nodded first.
Then Senzo.
Predictably, Duskar was the last to give his consent. “Hells, why not,” the orc muttered finally.
Kartara turned back to me. “It seems like we have a deal.”
Comments
I wonder when they'll start suspecting him of being a Prime. The story of the Stygian's seems closely tied in with the story of the Ancients. The Brotherhood has a huge library containing as much information on Stygians as possible, and we know there are individuals all over The Kingdom who remember and reminisce on the past under the Primes. Like any good end of book fight things probably won't go according to the MC's plan and he could be forced to display more than he intends to the Brotherhood. Practically every one of the the MC's secrets, and the matters of his faction is enough to start the line of thinking
John
2025-01-21 19:08:59 +0000 UTCOh boy, come with me to wacky theory-town. Remembering how the Guardians were once players? I bet you that the Adjudicator was also once a player. While that doesn't have to be true for us to have a witness of the old times, as we have the Guardians themselves- granted, at least one of them is crazy- the Adjudicator was privy to the thoughts of everyone, as it is currently, it would be able to piece together what happened even before it was created. Maybe that's why Loken was actually talking to the Adjudicator when he was muttering about the Adjudicator trying to raise the Houses again. Anyway, I bet the guardians have a lot more insight into the nature of the void than the brotherhoods library contains. But no one has thought to ask, primarily because the brotherhood doesn't know they could.
Kyle Garfield
2025-01-21 07:47:13 +0000 UTCYeah I'll agree the origin of the void fathers is a giant question mark. Sadly, we aren't likely to learn anything either. The Primes (Atiras' generation) MIGHT have had some idea as to the origin but I doubt it. The only people that could be reasonable to expect having knowledge on this... the void fathers themselves. And they clearly aren't reliable or unbiased witnesses... and that's if you knew how to get them to tell the story at all. A "rogue" Prime creating them... or maybe even accidentally (or intentionally but meh) becoming the first void father... definitely possible. As for the rest... yeah IF the void fathers were created it would be a single Prime or possibly a few allied ones trying to destroy their hated rivals... as an example it has been noted that in all of "recorded" history Pestilence never once set aside its hatred for Wolf. And vice versa. And clearly while it's possible the void existed before the shattering it's again something we aren't likely to get a straight truthful answer on.
David Brewer
2025-01-21 02:20:43 +0000 UTCYeah, I think that’s an interesting take on how the shattering happened and the possible involvement of the Void Fathers, as you suggested. From what we know so far, the power of the Ancient Primes was so immense that it shattered the kingdom, creating the fractured state we see today. After that, the Void appeared. Now, whether the Void Fathers were a creation of the Primes, like an experiment gone wrong, is an interesting possibility. If that were the case, I’d lean toward it being the work of one rogue Prime rather than multiple, since it feels unlikely the Primes as a whole would intentionally create something that destructive. What I don’t think is plausible, though, is the idea of the Primes being in alliance with the Void—aside from maybe one rogue Prime. The Primes were actively fighting against the Void, so an alliance doesn’t fit their behavior. That said, we still don’t know whether the Void was created when the kingdom fragmented or if it existed before and was simply unleashed during that time. It hasn’t been specified, so I suppose anything is still possible. There’s definitely a lot of unknowns here, and it feels like we’re still missing pieces before we can draw any solid conclusions.
Alejandro
2025-01-19 08:26:10 +0000 UTCI'd like to add, before chapter 557, the Coral Islands, I probably wouldn't have been so aggressive in my assertion of the "badness" of the Powers as a group. But as Kintara explained the goals and purpose of the Brotherhood and how they literally can't give books about the nether away it became exceedingly apparent that they (the new Powers) need to "chastised". A foe like the void fathers isn't something you can afford to ignore. And not reviving the guardians was a horribly selfish choice.
David Brewer
2025-01-19 01:39:43 +0000 UTCDude, I rather doubt anyone thinks the original Primes were anything other than giant assholes. When Loken first blamed them it did seem spurious, but when Adriel confirmed the truth you have no choice but to accept it. However, the Primes presumably created the Grand Game. They DID create the guardians, they were at least committed to the idea of "repaying the ancient debts" aka repairing the damage to the Forever Kingdom by the original Primes. But even with all that... the Primes DID fight the nether and opposed the conquest of the void fathers. The Powers? Whether they are being influenced, manipulated, or are merely selfish and cowardly aren't. They defend the sectors that matter to their factions and abandon everything else to the nether. They are worse than the original Primes. I doubt those ancient worthies intended the damage they caused or even realized what could happen. That doesn't justify it, or make it ok... but it's different to accidentally break the world then to intentionally ignore the world's destruction. The new Powers ARE bad on the whole. Individually? Meh, dunno. Also, they can't oppose the adjudicator. They have no way to run the Grand Game without him, otherwise they probably would try. And then there's this: 'Loken’s gaze flicked back to me. “There when the uprising began. I was young then, an unblooded scion,” he said softly. “In those days, Wolf and his fellows—Lion, Pestilence, Serpent, Dragon, and so many others—ruled the Forever Kingdom. They named themselves Primes and reigned supreme over their own little fiefdoms—Houses, they called them. Each spent their lives concerned with one thing only: strengthening their bloodlines and their House’s power.” He cast me a bland look. “Do you know what the net result of all that was?”' His "justification" for the rebellion was all the conflict and struggles between the Houses... which as we all know was completely fixed by the forcesworn Powers and factions who are all friends. They behave the same way as the Primes and lack even the intent to right the ancient mistakes.
David Brewer
2025-01-19 01:09:34 +0000 UTCOK, I have previously thought that Loken was influenced by the void. See! Bad new powers are bad! First let's make sure that I have a few things right with regard to timeline. The ancients had a war that shattered the kingdom presumably into defensible islands only accessible by portals, some sectors are single islands, other sectors are grouped together like the eastern marshes. It was after the shattering that the void 'appeared' then- or and- Ancients felt terrible about what they'd done and made a mission statement to repair. Adriel says they created the game, the Adjudicator, the guardians, after the breaking. Adriel turned back to Terence. “Like I said, the world’s breaking occurred a long time ago. Before the Houses became a thing, actually. It happened when the Primes roamed the world, sometimes alone, sometimes in packs, seeking out and destroying their rivals, whether of their own bloodline or not. It was an evil era by all accounts.” She sighed. “And ever since, the Houses have been trying to make restitution.” “Restitution?” Anriq asked. Adriel nodded. “Forget not the breaking. Forget not the dead. Forget not our ancient debts,” my guess is that the first void father tricked the primes- or maybe just one- into shattering the world so that it could spread to isolated sectors with much more ease than trying to take over a section of the whole world. Further, I wonder if the first void father was created by an ancient with the power to tear rifts in reality. Maybe the ancient may have been trying to set a trap for a rival and got some unintended consequences. Maybe the rift tearing ability was the first failed experiment in trying to be able to shatter the forever kingdom. And then the tree was rejected by its prime maker and got angry, then started getting into the heads of other primes. Maybe that's kind of a trope. Anyway, while Loken and his new revolutionary powers are easy targets of blame, recall that the ancients committed acts so heinous that they felt the blood of many on their hands, to change from the 'evil time'- Enough to make serious changes. It is odd that the penitent group of ancients was usurped by the new powers that abandoned the atoning efforts of their 'oppressors'. perhaps still the void influenced the upstarts, but my guess is the ancients created the void, and they probably thought they were harmless enough as they were trees. They were probably kept in containment fields like at a zoo. What harm can a stationary critter really cause? I guess another unintended consequence of making a critted that you wanted to use to shatter the world will also, of necessity, be a powerful psionic with creative abilities of its own. This is my guess as to why Kartara and her band are dissecting them, follow the creation theory. It's hard for me to conceptualize what the forever kingdom looked like without an Adjudicator. People could still level up and reach primehood, at lease. It shouldn't be a surprise to Loken, if, like the guardians, the prime created Adjudicator is trying to bring back the primes. You'd think they would be as interested in waging war against the Adjudicator as they were in taking down the guardians. Sorry just a lot of musing.
Kyle Garfield
2025-01-18 22:04:09 +0000 UTCAdriel rejoining the game is a very long term goal sadly. Remember her body is presently in the shielded Home sector of the Awakened Dead faction. We don't know how many Powers they actually have, but we do know Erebus and Ishita are not weaklings. Getting access to that sector will be a major hurdle. Especially given that regardless of anything they hate Michael, and likely would never give him anything. Additionally, IF Erebus is a former Death scion (clearly one who didn't awaken his blood) he almost certainly would disdain Adriel for becoming a Lich... House Death hated that ritual per Adriel (it was like becoming forsworn) and even if that choice doesn't incur their dislike... she's befriended Michael.
David Brewer
2025-01-18 14:50:07 +0000 UTCYeah, I agree. I really think the Brotherhood is going to end up joining Michael’s faction at some point. Keshe already hinted that they could be potential allies, and it feels like things are heading in that direction. If they do join, Michael’s faction is going to be really strong. You’ve got Michael himself, obviously, and then Sapphire, who’s already a Power, Adriel who could regain her Scion status, and would become another power and then Ceravoux, who is technically Michael’s Envoy. The Brotherhood would bring even more to the table. The Hunt Mistress is Envoy-level and already has a party with at least three elites under her command, and there’s a good chance the Brotherhood has more elites hidden away. Then you add in Sapphire’s Forsworn elites, The Nagans, Michael’s army of 2,000 soldiers—including the 500 Wolfmen—and the numbers and firepower start to look formidable. So yeah, with all that combined, Michael’s faction would be devastating, as you put it.
Alejandro
2025-01-18 13:48:24 +0000 UTCHe definitely should be asking them more questions than he is
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-18 13:41:44 +0000 UTCHey, I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding here. He didn’t exactly offer the sector to the Brotherhood outright. What he mentioned was more along the lines of it being an investment—essentially granting them access to the resources in the sector, but not full ownership. That distinction is important because he wasn’t implying they’d have complete control. Also, keep in mind that, from the Brotherhood’s perspective, the idea of reclaiming a sector from a mature Void Tree is completely inconceivable at this point. It’s something they wouldn’t even consider a possibility. Of course, that perspective might be about to change—thanks to the MC’s efforts—but as of now, the Brotherhood likely sees such an idea as unattainable.
Alejandro
2025-01-18 13:25:24 +0000 UTCThis is interesting!! Imagine once he secures his sector they go on a rampage united with the brotherhood to wake the guardians!!! That could be what is needed to close out the entire saga, as bringing them back online restores the critical ley lines. THAT could be done in 5 books or so… all while Michael goes after Stygian powers to grow himself to prime and his army… sheit … almost crazy supply of dungeons no one else controls….. his entire army would be DEVASTATING!!!
obiwann
2025-01-18 12:59:50 +0000 UTCI’m surprised he offered up 31,199 to the brotherhood… a sector only he has access to in the nether is a good backup place to hide from the powers if they hunt him. No shield generator required. And his army is pretty potent and should be able to hold off the Stygians if they find them.
obiwann
2025-01-18 12:55:16 +0000 UTCHey, Your point does make sense, especially in the context of this being more of a theory we’re building here. Let me expand on that: • If this did happen, as you suggest, it might have taken place after the war, or perhaps during the chaos at the start or middle of the war. • It wouldn’t necessarily need to be part of a deliberate ploy but rather an opportunity the Void Fathers exploited. • As you mentioned, when the Guardian network was shut down, it’s possible that those protection mechanisms—meant to shield the kingdom from the Void—were weakened. • This would have given the Void Fathers the chance to exert their influence, which aligns with their cunning nature and mastery of timing. So yes, it does seem plausible that the Void Fathers could have acted during this window of vulnerability. Definitely something to consider!
Alejandro
2025-01-18 12:13:03 +0000 UTCHey, great points! I think the Void Fathers’ involvement makes a lot of sense, especially considering their psionic capabilities. Let me expand on this with my own take: 1. The Power of the Void Fathers and Psionics • As you mentioned, even a young Void Tree—a power in the 300–350 range—has formidable psionic abilities. • Despite not being able to harm or control Michael directly due to his high mind stat, it could still inflict noticeable, though non-lethal, damage over time. • Now, if we scale this up to the mature Void Trees, the Elder Void Trees, Ancient Void Tress and finally the Void Fathers, their psionic capabilities would likely be exponentially stronger. • The Void Fathers’ sentience, cunning, and strategic mindset would make them capable of orchestrating a ploy like the one we’re discussing, manipulating events with subtle precision. 2. Potential Collaboration Between Void Fathers and Players • It’s possible the Void Fathers manipulated high-level players or new powers. • The initial arrangement might have been that the Void Fathers would help these new powers eliminate the Primes, offering them some type of advantage or fate in return. • However, as soon as the Primes were defeated, the alliance could have turned sour. The Void Fathers would no longer be “needed,” and the new powers might have sought to sever ties. 3. Subtle Psionic Manipulation • Rather than outright control, the Void Fathers may have subtly implanted beliefs or influenced the decisions of certain powers. • This subtle manipulation could explain why some powers seem indifferent to the threat of the Nether or lack the drive to act, believing these decisions to be entirely their own. • The Void Fathers’ mastery of psionics would allow for a nearly imperceptible level of influence, steering the actions of others without raising suspicion. 4. Loken’s Role in All of This • Loken’s involvement adds another layer of intrigue. We know: • He was the one to draw first blood in the war against the Primes. • He has consistently targeted threats related to the Ancients and Primes, including Michael (due to his evolved class) and the Awakened faction of Erebeus. • For some reason, Loken has avoided sharing knowledge of these threats with other powers. • This raises several questions for this plot: • Is Loken aware of Void Father infiltration in other factions, which is why he keeps this information to himself? • Or is Loken himself compromised, having struck a deal with the Void Fathers, making him a hidden nemesis? • If Loken were secretly aligned with the Void Fathers, it would explain his actions and motivations in a deeply unsettling way. 5. The Mystery of the New Powers • Whether or not Loken is directly involved with the Void Fathers, it’s clear that there’s a lot happening behind the scenes with the new Powers.
Alejandro
2025-01-18 12:06:00 +0000 UTCIt strains our understanding to suggest the void fathers had their branches involved in the rebellion. It's hard to fathom that they would know a Supreme Power would be weaker than the Primes by enough to matter, they couldn't have known the guardians would go into stasis to hide from the new Powers, and they couldn't likely have predicted the willingness to abandon valuable sectors. To me it screams opportunism after the fact. The void fathers realize after the rebellion these new Powers and factions are less dangerous and perhaps less suited to protect themselves from stygian psionics. They further learn that the guardians aren't defending the dungeons anymore, so they begin their current slow conquest. Perhaps at this point the stygians put their branches into the game to manipulate the factions and Powers to help ensure the advantageous changes become the new normal. My rather lengthy 2 cents.
David Brewer
2025-01-18 12:03:04 +0000 UTCAs you describe it, the New Powers sought help from the void fathers. While I could theoretically imagine that, I don't believe that all powers – or even just the most powerful ones – would stick to such an agreement for so long after the fall of the Primes. Eventually, someone would decide to fight against the Void. Personally, I’m more inclined to believe that the initiative came from the void fathers. Perhaps they were looking for a way to weaken the Primes and their houses. I support the theory that the void fathers influenced several players to actively rise up against the Primes. What leads me to this theory is the following: According to Adriel, Scions used to be what we now commonly refer to as players. This suggests to me that there used to be no distinction between the two roles. Influenced by the void fathers, some of these Scions may have actively approached the adjudicator, asking for powers that were independent of the houses. To a limited extent, this request might have been granted. Since these powers are entirely granted by the game, they might be weaker than the original powers of the Primes and the house members. Up to the elite level, the new players have an advantage because they are guaranteed a certain number of powers directly granted by the game. But as levels increase, the powers of the Primes and house members become superior because they are obtained differently. Regarding the conflict with the Primes, I could imagine that the new powers – strengthened by their game-granted abilities and influenced by the void fathers – appeared in large numbers and eventually displaced or wiped out the Primes for the most part. Furthermore, the influence of the void fathers might have led the new powers to believe that the Void is not a threat worth fighting against. Instead, it would seem more reasonable to abandon infected sectors and focus on occupying other sectors, given that there are supposedly infinite ones. This has led to the current situation where a sector is no longer defended to the last – except for Nexus – but is simply left to its fate. At least, that’s my theory.
Marco Ramon
2025-01-18 11:34:54 +0000 UTCGod, has been less than 24 hours and I am desperate for an other chapter…
Alejandro
2025-01-18 11:30:15 +0000 UTCHey guys, based on the discussion in this chat and some observations, I wanted to share theory about the war against the Ancients and the role of the Void Fathers. Here’s the breakdown: 1. The New Powers’ Rebellion Against the Primes • Historically, the war saw the new powers rebelling against the old Primes and successfully overthrowing them. • However, the Primes’ power was significantly greater than that of any individual new power. While the new powers had numerical superiority, it’s difficult to believe they could eliminate all the Primes without external help. 2. Elite Category Advantages • The power dynamics between the old and new powers could provide some insight: • At the elite level (e.g., a Dark Sworn of level 205), new powers seem to have a clear advantage over their old counterparts, such as House Scions at the same level. • However, at higher levels (e.g., level 300), the Primes and older powers appear to outclass their new power equivalents. This disparity suggests that while the new powers had strength in numbers at lower levels, they still needed a significant edge to eliminate the Primes. 3. Potential Collaboration with the Void Fathers • Given the Primes’ overwhelming power, it’s plausible that some of the new powers struck a deal with the Void Fathers (or the Void Tree) to gain an advantage. • This theory is supported by several factors: • The Void trees are powerful Psionic’s, Imagine how much more powerful the Void Fathers are. • The behaviors and alliances of certain new powers hint at a willingness to compromise or manipulate for personal gain, making cooperation with the Void Fathers conceivable. • Some mysteries about the war and the subsequent state of power factions suggest that the new powers didn’t achieve victory entirely on their own. 4. Conclusion • While the numerical advantage and elite strength of the new powers played a role, it seems unlikely that they could eliminate all the Primes without external assistance. • The Void Fathers, with their unique abilities and potential interest in disrupting the balance of power, make a strong candidate for hidden allies in this conflict. • If true, this would also explain lingering tensions and unresolved mysteries in the current dynamics between factions and powers.
Alejandro
2025-01-18 11:05:55 +0000 UTC😂
Alejandro
2025-01-18 10:50:29 +0000 UTCLol
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-18 01:59:10 +0000 UTCDon't get me wrong, I'd love to see Kintara and Michael at a meeting of PHA (Power Hater's Anonymous). "Hi, I'm Michael." "Hi, Michael." "I guess I'm here because the stupid selfish tricks that style themselves the Powers haven't been tormenting me since I first entered the Forever Kingdom. But it became truly aggravating when that bastard Loken conned the Mantis's into hunting for his own amusement to give me "incentive" for doing a task for him. Or maybe it was when he made it very, very clear that once I completed that task he was going to ensure I died because I refused to join his forcesworn cult and instead have been struggling to restore the ancient houses. Or perhaps it really crystallized when I discovered the guardians and realized that the power greed of the 'Powers' was leading directly to the total victory of the void fathers."
David Brewer
2025-01-18 01:57:42 +0000 UTCtx
Tom Elliot (Rohan Vider)
2025-01-18 01:38:58 +0000 UTCtx
Tom Elliot (Rohan Vider)
2025-01-18 01:37:18 +0000 UTCSure, maybe so
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-18 01:36:30 +0000 UTCTo be fair, thus far he was fairly busy getting a better understanding of the brotherhood and its goals, and then getting the Huntmistress to acknowledge that perhaps his plans are only just crazy enough to work not so crazy they'll just get everyone killed for no purpose. When Tom gets around to posting the next chapter, Michael might share (possibly in a accelerated version to minimize our "re-reading", but maybe not) what he knows about things like the guardians that the brotherhood might be interested in and maybe even willing to help him with in addition to the current plans. And as for lending his netherstone... pretty sure he's using it as a "guarantee" they'll be 100% committed to the plan. He is trying to maximize the likelihood of securing the other sector for the Forerunners. It's a calculated risk. And the actual value of an already inscribed netherstone to a sector the brotherhood would consider "lost" is fairly minimal... compared to the value of an uninscribed stone as they get essentially a random location in a random zone which may or may not be useful. Also, he can't deny them the stone... they need it to portal to the rift on that side. And he needs to be available to kill or force the tree to retreat never mind helping with the 2 remaining overlords. Finally, he doesn't need to guarantee they're trustworthy. They won't be fighting alongside him and won't be entering his new sector. He just needs to motivate their interests enough they'll give it their all. He had an existing relationship with the bard, so spending time validating his reliability immediately was important. But on this time crunch, it's easier to use greed and build trust after... because... paranoid.
David Brewer
2025-01-18 01:35:13 +0000 UTCI guess I feel like if I were him I might have mentioned what I know, ie the seeds being alive and able to communicate, as a way to build trust and get on the same page. The Stygian Brotherhood are going to play a pretty major role here and he spent more time vetting the bard than he has building a connection with them. It's just weird I mean I love the story and all that, I just don't think it makes sense for there to be rampant paranoia, with him picking traits specifically to hide his identity, leaving his own friends out of his plans and all that, in almost every aspect of his life but in this case he goes "oh here's my magic rock, you guys hold onto it for as long as you need" I mean couldn't he at least think to himself "I can always sneak back in here and steal it if I need to" or "even if I lose it that might be worth it to get all these books they said they would give away" or "I have to do whatever I have to do to get us a sector where my guys can rest and regroup" or just some kind of justification or plan b?
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-18 00:47:54 +0000 UTCPretty sure the Huntmistress doesn't know about the guardians. Given the goals of the brotherhood.... if they did I'm fairly confident they'd be seeking as many obscure dungeons as possible hoping to find and wake them. As such she's more or less resigned to the current semi desperate plight of "unimportant" sectors (including dungeons) falling to the nether semi-frequently because the brotherhood can't be everywhere. Possibly she does know, but has given up any hopes of finding or waking them too.
David Brewer
2025-01-18 00:39:21 +0000 UTCI mean, I suppose they still could talk (and probably will) talk about it. I think MC was not willing to share what he knows about the nagas, until the accepted to help… and well, the chapter just finished as they accepted the help, so the sharing info about the naga will follow.
Alejandro
2025-01-17 22:09:45 +0000 UTCWell we are still here, if you have any thoughts of something you want to share, or want to ask. Go on, we are listening 🫶
Alejandro
2025-01-17 22:01:01 +0000 UTCright but she just described the whole situation with a shrug
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 21:33:13 +0000 UTCThere is actually a really, REALLY good reason to risk final death in infested sectors. Every sector lost to the nether means more opportunities for the nether to abscond with unprotected dungeons. The problem there is only the powers from the war and their loyal lackeys probably know about this. And they will not likely ever wake the guardians because they understand their players would revolt if they risked final death every time they entered any dungeon for the crime of being loyal to the Powers. So, people will continue to fear fighting in infested sectors and more sectors/dungeons will be lost. And that is just the way the void fathers like it.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 21:32:02 +0000 UTCYeah, I only mentioned bold blood because that was the Arbiter giving Michael his "how dumb are you" reward for becoming a transitional power before reaching 200. Because as we all agree the Arbiter rewards crazy and stupid if you win.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 21:26:10 +0000 UTCSo, Obiwann I just wanted to expand on what David mentioned about becoming a power. On Power Marks and House/Force Factions 1. Requirements for Becoming a Power: • To ascend to the rank of a power, you need a combination of your power mark and, for those associated with a house, your house mark. • In Michael’s case, this is tied to his wolf mark. For force-sworn individuals like Sapphire (light-sworn), she becomes a powerful initiate by deepening her light mark and combining it with her powerful initiate status, which then forms her Ascendant Class. 2. House or Force Affiliation is Essential: • If someone isn’t aligned with a house or force faction, they lack the ability to fully gain a power mark. Both elements—house/force mark and powerful initiate mark—are required to ascend. Clarification on the Bold Blood Achievement • Regarding Bold Blood, it’s important to note that this achievement isn’t directly related to becoming a power. • Instead, Bold Blood grants extra stat points per level. For example: • Normally, levelling up from 200 to 205 might give 5 stat points, 1 per level. With Bold Blood, for those 5lvls Michael gains either 10 or 15 points instead of 5(I can’t recall if it’s 1 or 2 extra points per level). • This achievement provides Michael a significant advantage in stats but doesn’t influence his power mark progression.
Alejandro
2025-01-17 21:24:27 +0000 UTCI really have to say that I'm super excited to see how much the comment section has exploded in the past few hours. I think it's absolutely amazing to read and exchange so many theories here, and I'm almost a bit sad that I was on the go during the last hour and couldn't actively participate. Nevertheless, it's super cool. Thumbs up!
Marco Ramon
2025-01-17 21:09:31 +0000 UTCYes but you have to be in both columns to advance yourself. And yes, he couldn't forge his own Pacts until he gained the Wolf Lord class. It's in 386 at the beginning of book 6. If you read carefully on Tom's tables the leveling chart doesn't have any special requirements noted to "reach" higher tiers... aka minor, major, or supreme. Just reaching that level qualifies you to claim that title. However, the power chart deliberately requires you to advance your house/force mark AND your power mark. Once you advance both you can become the next rank of power regardless of your actual level. That's because it allows you to rank up your ascendant Class, and as was shown the ascendant point you earn is incredibly valuable so you would be technically competitive with someone 100 levels higher than you with a lower rank class. That's a generalization of course. This is one of the many reasons it "easier" to be forcesworn than house sworn. Safyre is only 212 and already has a mark of Supreme light. Michael needs to advance his wolf mark 4 more times to become Prime by marks. I don't actually know if the powers don't have something similar as I say this, Michael has never actually inspected a power.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 21:05:00 +0000 UTCBut his powerful initiate mark puts him in the baby power column. Or are u saying he couldn’t initiate a pact until he got his ascendant class? When was that btw? I thought he COULD at lvl 199 or whatever
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:59:59 +0000 UTCWhy didn’t Michael ask about the corrupted portals ?!!? Missed opportunity IMO
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:58:10 +0000 UTCMaking pacts is one of the key differences between players and powers. Powers can make them players can't. If you re-read the early chapters of book 6, Adriel explains the difference between players and powers. In short, players have at best a master class. Powers have Ascendant classes.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:57:59 +0000 UTCI must misunderstand… I feel like this corroborates what I was saying..
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:56:12 +0000 UTCChapter 386: Higher evolution completed! You are now a wolf lord! As an ascendant player, you can create a faction, claim sectors on behalf of your faction, and form Pacts with other players. Your secret blood trait has been triggered! To conceal your bloodline, your ascendant Class will be hidden in its entirety. You can now form Pacts with other players, and at any one time, may have a maximum of 10 active Pacts. Note, he gains pacts AFTER his evolution meaning he wasn't a power until he evolved his Ascendant class. And as a wolf he needed the wolf protector mark and powerful initiate to be eligible for the evolution. I can't imagine how you'd steep yourself that deeply in Wolf without awakening your blood. Edited: looking again he (Tom) mostly uses pack protector but when Michael gained the mark it said wolf protector so maybe it's somewhat interchangeable.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:54:06 +0000 UTCI feel like the brotherhood is probably going to want to know more about the nagas capabilities, spells and so on, and weaknesses and especially their ability to travel through portals.*
mark janson
2025-01-17 20:54:03 +0000 UTCChapter 376 where he gained the mark: You have acquired the Mark: Powerful Initiate, and have begun to tread the ways of Power yourself. The path to greatness is paved by death, and no player can rise to prominence in the Game without pitting himself against its strongest contenders. You have done so and emerged victorious. Note, as a Powerful Initiate, you have not yet ascended to the rank of Power but have merely set yourself on the path to reaching it. As a result of your new Power Mark, you have gained the trait: Higher Evolution.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:51:50 +0000 UTCUh… ima hafta go back because bold blood was strictly for killing a power and becoming a power initiate before level 200.
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:48:41 +0000 UTCHe got the mark yeah, but he didn't become a powerful initiate in truth until he gained his Ascendant class. You can double check that. He gained bold blood AFTER his class because that was when he crossed that line
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:46:56 +0000 UTCI’m just saying he got powerful initiate by slaying harbinger in Draven’s reach and possessing an evolved class. Nothing to do w/wolf house.
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:45:40 +0000 UTCThese discussions are why I keep coming back!!! Lmao
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:44:28 +0000 UTCShe's lightsworn, true no faction. But that's not the same. Being sworn to wolf is, my opinion, the same as being sworn to the forces... but like all things ancient. It's a bigger pain in the ass. As forcesworn is a mark only but scions need the mark and bloodline awakenings.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:43:37 +0000 UTCNo…. All he has to do is slay a power…safyre isn’t of a house..
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:43:08 +0000 UTCFair, that's why I expounded my statements. Even when I was in school I've often left key details unsaid (written really as we're talking about papers) because it didn't occur to me that I hadn't explained that.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:37:46 +0000 UTCHey guys, Thanks for replying! I just wanted to clarify a few things about my comments. As you mentioned, some of these points might have been discussed in earlier chapters, and I realise that with just one comment—or even a few—it’s hard for me to encapsulate the full breadth of your perspectives. What I was trying to share wasn’t meant to contradict or correct what you’ve said before. Rather, it’s just my take on things, an addition to the conversation. Obviously, with limited space in a single comment, it’s tricky to fully explain or account for every factor, so I appreciate you understanding that I’m not trying to challenge anyone’s views. Instead, I hope my comments are seen as a way to add perspective and expand on the discussion, not to refute what’s already been said. I just wanted to make that point clear so there’s no misunderstanding. Thanks again for the great conversation!
Alejandro
2025-01-17 20:35:59 +0000 UTCI don't think so. The game is pretty savage about the rules. I strongly suspect you can't get the powerful initiate, as a scion, without awakening your bloodline. It would be like becoming a forcesworn power without binding yourself to a force. It doesn't seem logical. And given that he does know Michael ISN'T building his force marks anymore, it's the logical conclusion even if it's not true honestly. If you had an "existential" threat maybe being reborn, would you worry about the technicality of whether or not he's actually awakened his blood? Or just kill him to play it safe? Honestly the only obvious reason Loken has stopped trying to kill him is the chalice... and if he thinks Michael is becoming a bigger threat...
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:34:25 +0000 UTCHold on… Loken knows he has an affinity for house wolf… but he doesn’t know he has awoken his blood and he is on course for primehood. He could be a power and not be a threat. (As far as being a prime threat) I’m waiting for him to activate that ability that lets him leach levels. He is going to need that to lvl up quick if the books are gonna be over by book 12 or 13 lol
obiwann
2025-01-17 20:32:41 +0000 UTCIt could also explain why Psi users seem so rare... I mean it might be chance that Michael hasn't encountered many, but if I was an immortal psionic tree bent on conquering reality I might favor fewer psionic enemies to interfere with (or reveal) my schemes.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:30:15 +0000 UTCYeah I 100% agree. You can't be suspicious or paranoid enough regarding Loken. Also, minor point but the Ascendant undead envoy is named Stayne.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 20:27:55 +0000 UTCRandom thought while reading this for the fifth time… they PROBABLY think he is an envoy at worst. He should fake his mark to be a mark of safyre since they gonna probably meet her and she can’t hide her marks like he can
obiwann
2025-01-17 19:55:57 +0000 UTCHmmmm, I suppose… Then correct would be “The nether was vanquished from sector” or something like that.
Alejandro
2025-01-17 19:46:14 +0000 UTCThat sector was contested and in danger of falling to the void. Can’t reclaim what wasn’t lost.
obiwann
2025-01-17 19:21:47 +0000 UTCBecause Michael has proven he cannot adapt to last minute changes… yeah should be super easy 🤔
obiwann
2025-01-17 19:19:50 +0000 UTCI guess I just wonder why he veers between insanely paranoid, like when he interrogated the bard, going through the bank security and using his power and all of that, and then insanely trusting, like when he doesn't even ask who it is that is using his inn to teleport people into his secret sector or what guarantee he might have of getting his stone back from these people he doesn't know. It just seems odd
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 19:00:47 +0000 UTCHe’s established that he has a lot of allies. The brotherhoods main goal is to pushback the nether. By all appearances he seems to be sympathetic to that goal. if he succeeds there is a possibility he could be a useful longterm ally for the brotherhood. And while netherstones are valuable if the brother hood kills him there’s a solid chance they’d have to deal with whatever’s left of the 3000 allies he mentioned.
mark janson
2025-01-17 18:58:49 +0000 UTCSo, he did failed to kill the sapling, however, he did manage to clear the nether from the sector. The Sapling fled once the Harbinger was defeated and having no means to defend himself. Thus closing the rift, ending the means by which you cloud spread the nether. So, the sector was reclaimed, but the Void tree fled.
Alejandro
2025-01-17 18:53:46 +0000 UTCAll they have to do is not show up to distract the stygians and Michael gets swarmed in a sector with no safe zone. Easy peasy
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 18:47:52 +0000 UTCBecause he is a Kesh customer, if the Brotherhood crosses Michael they’ll tarnished their reputation with the most important merchant in The Game, Kesh. Remember the implied threat of Huntmistress a few chapters ago. “and the only reason you are aloud to leave, is because you are a client of Kesh” (I’m paraphrasing). That lets you know the weight of Kesh influence. Bear in mind that Kesh also knows about Michael’s secret, and is not hostile. Which means she will definitely care if the Huntmistress betrays Michael.
Alejandro
2025-01-17 18:45:58 +0000 UTCTftc ❤️
mark janson
2025-01-17 18:42:41 +0000 UTC“so this (these were) was my first insights on (into) what they’d (they) thought about the stygian army”“I am the first player to set foot (in) sector 30,199.”
mark janson
2025-01-17 18:41:44 +0000 UTC“What else have [you] not told us?” she asked. Missing You in that sentence.
Trycurious
2025-01-17 17:55:41 +0000 UTCIt does seem like there is zero reason for a bunch of players to risk permanent death just because a guy rocks up and promises them it's gonna be ok On the flip side, why would he think they would ever return the nether stone?
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 17:48:43 +0000 UTCHe could at least mention that
Rajeev Roy
2025-01-17 17:47:36 +0000 UTCYou weren’t lying about releasing so many chapters
Matthew Bowley
2025-01-17 17:09:33 +0000 UTC🫶
Alejandro
2025-01-17 17:02:59 +0000 UTCah, got it
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 16:29:35 +0000 UTChe didn't beat a young tree. The previous one was a sapling (elite tier).
Tom Elliot (Rohan Vider)
2025-01-17 16:28:19 +0000 UTCtx
Tom Elliot (Rohan Vider)
2025-01-17 16:27:33 +0000 UTCThank you!!!
AR
2025-01-17 16:26:38 +0000 UTCtx
Tom Elliot (Rohan Vider)
2025-01-17 16:25:23 +0000 UTCThe location where the stygians are "born". Created really, but a few chapters back the Huntmistress explained to Michael how stygians are formed as best as she understands.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 16:19:10 +0000 UTC“Found one?” I echoed. “A stygian creche. Can somone remind me what this is/meaning I don’t remember
AR
2025-01-17 16:16:02 +0000 UTCWhy doesn't he just tell her he already beat a young void tree before so he can do it again
Jason Hornbuckle
2025-01-17 16:14:55 +0000 UTCNot to mention... his ability to stay concealed past tier 5 detection spells and stuff. It did say that the specialist at analyzing couldn't pierce his disguise but was able to tell he had one. That takes a very high level spell to deceive them.
Blakuis Woolf
2025-01-17 16:03:21 +0000 UTCTO WAR!!!! -rabble running around with pitchforks-
Eriach
2025-01-17 16:02:06 +0000 UTCYeah, they have to wonder if he's an initiate if not a Power to causally show that off.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 16:01:34 +0000 UTC“I am the first player to set foot [in] sector 30,199.” Grammar correction in the brackets. Word was missing.
Seth
2025-01-17 15:54:57 +0000 UTCHe's already hinted at that by having the intact netherstone
Blakuis Woolf
2025-01-17 15:53:10 +0000 UTCTFTC
Sailesh Kumar Kumar
2025-01-17 15:53:04 +0000 UTCWith the tree being a Power, it could’ve revealed that Michael had become a Powerful Initiate after killing it and the Harbinger.
Seth
2025-01-17 15:52:12 +0000 UTCDude…I want to know why they aren’t more excited to have someone with his capabilities and knowledge on their team. He obviously has an agenda…. But what agenda could be so bad that it is obviously worse than being on Good terms with someone with his capabilities??? They need some humble pie.
obiwann
2025-01-17 15:52:03 +0000 UTCWhoohoooo!!!
Seth
2025-01-17 15:49:22 +0000 UTCI notice that Michael didn't mention having fought a tree previously causing it to flee which please correct me if I'm wrong banished the nether from Draven's reach. If only temporarily
Blakuis Woolf
2025-01-17 15:45:31 +0000 UTC“Failed experiments,” I told her. “Mismatched creatures that should prove no threat. I only mention them—” I glanced at Kartara—(“)because of our previous conversation.”
Alexander C Hyde
2025-01-17 15:44:01 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter
Frost1005
2025-01-17 15:42:19 +0000 UTCIt is a good arrangement for them. Plus, in the long haul... as long as he lives they'll have a real ally against the nether. No small thing given the Powers refusal to deal with it.
David Brewer
2025-01-17 15:41:03 +0000 UTCYaaas
obiwann
2025-01-17 15:39:17 +0000 UTC