POD 115: MDMA researcher Dr. Ingmar Gorman on Lykos Phase III
Added 2024-11-01 05:49:11 +0000 UTCIn this episode I talk with Dr. Ingmar Gorman, Lykos phase III MDMA trial co-principal investigator and therapist, about his personal experiences treating PTSD patients during the MAPS trial, the recent MDMA controversies, and how he got started in psychedelic research. A follow up interview with Rick Doblin will be released shortly!
The Conceptual Framework for the Therapeutic Approach Used in Phase 3 Trials
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Hamilton, I have to say your fascination with psychedelic chemistry is much more entertaining and pleasant listening than your strong feelings about the some of the community involved in commercialization and regulatory approval. I don’t know enough to have an informed opinion, but it is not what I choose to listen to. The rest is AMAZINGLY interesting and I’m maintaining my tiny speck of support without enjoying 100% of your work. I just wanted you to know some patrons may appreciate a less angry expression of the facts and opinion you have. TLDR: I didn’t like the rant in the introduction.
Kevin Bauer
2025-08-05 16:08:21 +0000 UTCHamilton I am not sure if the best way to get in touch with you but ive been thinking more about the conversation we had at PS25 about Psymposia and how people are scared to speak up and it needs to change- after reflecting on how much harm they’ve caused me ( and others, as I keep hearing more personal stories )- I really think you raised a an important point. I’ve been toying with the idea of writing more about my experience of them from my perspective. I also think we got cut off when you were about to say something about their true motives - obviously there’s money but did I miss something else ? I Can also send you some Sisko related documents about another trial px and their response that I think you’d find really interesting.
rottogrotto
2025-06-22 02:35:56 +0000 UTC"A follow up interview with Rick Doblin will be released shortly!" Did I miss this? Appreciate any pointers in the right direction 🙏.
JustJake
2025-06-01 02:27:43 +0000 UTCHamilton, have you talked about DMXE or MXE on the podcast? I haven't found a way to search here for it and was hoping for some guidance. Big fan of the good work you do. Thank you.
Johnny Haeberlin
2025-02-20 03:16:19 +0000 UTCThis is really a great talk and I appreciate all the depth and effort you both take in approaching psychedelic therapy with such care and respect for the individuals undergoing the therapy. Healing trauma is so important and I'm glad there's people like you both talking about so many of the facets of it. Psychedelics have been very integral to me experiencing a lot of growth and healing from my own traumas.
Creepy Crawley
2024-12-23 05:50:38 +0000 UTCUpdate: my story is almost certainly going to be used in the article , they sent a photographer to take my photo. I think it’ll be a good takedown of Psymposia , my guess is you might already know about the article as the author is a mutual acquaintance.
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-28 16:47:05 +0000 UTCWow I didn’t read that Blowing Glass at Stone Houses interview until now. David Nickles is upset that psychedelic research and medicalization ( for things like ptsd, ocd, end of life anxiety, cluster headaches …) will threaten the sanctity of his transgressive psychedelic underground subculture ? That’s his primary concern. Wow .
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-28 16:35:27 +0000 UTCUnhinged is right. I’ve wondered the same thing- there’s like no engagement but I think it’s just made Sasha feverishly more determined to try to post more and more scandalous things
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-28 06:29:43 +0000 UTCI feel torn about “gossiping” but with this topic I must … Sasha’s Twitter is fascinating, honestly, it’s similar to Trump with tons of manic ramblings out of left field, seems like they’re just desperately grasping at straws tbh. We DM’d a couple years ago and despite disagreement things were civil. I followed Sasha ever since but haven’t really used Twitter in the last 2 years. I recently logged back on and it seems like they’ve become increasingly unhinged and just straight up disrespectful too. The tweets barely have any likes or responses either .. like who’s the audience?
Arylexplorer
2024-11-28 04:26:44 +0000 UTCI mean if possible I’d love to talk more over email if possible, but it’s hasn’t been made(it’s about to be though and I’d like you to hear about it first), the bicyclic amine used to make the LSB can easily be synthesised from diallylamine CuSO4 and H2SO4 under 254nm UV. It has about the same affinity for 5HT2A as LSD although slightly lower and theoretically should be more potent than LSZ. I’d be very interested to hear your input
Adam
2024-11-17 19:02:19 +0000 UTCSo this compound has never been made, this is just an idea?
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-17 18:56:54 +0000 UTCWe are the strangest animal on Earth. Humans, as a species, are just too fucking weird. I don't understand us.
Dylan
2024-11-17 17:51:28 +0000 UTCPossibly if funded and supported correctly
Adam
2024-11-15 17:26:22 +0000 UTCThat sounds very interesting, will the derivative be available in Europe?
Natalie Zementbeisser
2024-11-15 17:08:29 +0000 UTCIf they're referring to alpha-ethyl-3,4-MD-Benzylamine, look into it in the extensions and commentary of this page: https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal100.shtml
Tommy Royall
2024-11-14 15:38:58 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton I have a “friend” who’s working on a new LSD dirivative reminiscent of LSZ “he’d” love to talk to you if possible you can email “him” at: TheNexusAlexandria@proton.me
Adam
2024-11-13 03:02:20 +0000 UTCHold up, Hamilton I peruse *psychedelic* alpha pretty frequently, does this have anything to do with psilocybin alpha?
Pvt. Idaho
2024-11-12 16:09:33 +0000 UTCPerfect! I think Alex is an amazing chemist. I wish you every success in implementing your plans!
Natalie Zementbeisser
2024-11-10 20:51:05 +0000 UTCI am planning something big related to LL
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-10 20:47:08 +0000 UTCOh wow, that's awesome! I really would like to hear it now, haha!
Natalie Zementbeisser
2024-11-10 18:27:20 +0000 UTCIf I recall correctly, Hamilton has already interviewed Lizard Labs but is waiting for the legal situation to play out before releasing it.
B-Boy Bungus
2024-11-10 18:25:29 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton are you interested in a story in Europe? The largest manufacturer of LSD derivatives will close its doors at the end of the year. The chemist produced wonderful molecules such as 1P-LSD, 1B-LSD, 1CP-LSD, 1V-LSD, 1D-LSD, 1T-LSD, and 1S-LSD for over 12 years, allowing hundreds of thousands of people to have their psychedelic experiences legally, for example, in Germany. The laboratory is known as "Lizard Labs". I think it would be fantastic if you could do an interview with the chemist. I have the number and email of his chemical assistant in Maastricht, maybe something can be arranged? I think it could be an awesome story! The chemist did only one small interview with Vice Germany a couple of years ago. But it would be awesome if he could tell his story in detail!
Natalie Zementbeisser
2024-11-10 18:17:29 +0000 UTCAre you discussing the YouTube episodes demonstrating the synthesis of controlled substance analogs? Yeah, seems pretty risque, but hey, more power to 'em
Steven
2024-11-09 06:06:57 +0000 UTCGlad to hear you're having a productive period, Hamilton! More tellurium chemistry, cool! Last time I felt like that was, what, 1993? ;*[} So what, there's a secret anti-psychedelic conspiracy? Yikes! But wow, so much interesting info....cheers! PS: Can't wait to hear you chatting with Rick - hope more people get to hear it....This was an excellent interview covering many fascinating bases - thank you kindly Dr Gorman for such a balanced outlook.....yes, moderation, find the middle path, absolutely.
Steven
2024-11-09 05:48:05 +0000 UTCThis is taken from a post Prussian Blue made on the topic. “›basically, chemiolis made legal fluoro-mdma analog and gave it to his friend to try it (legally its alright, is it morally, thats your opinion) >that chemist doesnt like drugs ›he *allegedly* messages chemiolis's dad and chemiolis's dad employer and files 2 copyright strikes (which violates fair use laws here on youtube and kicks him off super secret chemist group chat ›chemiolis gets pissed off >some bullshit happens >they will start making videos on themselves, probably why this matters: 1. (Confirmed) fraudulent copyright strikes are a very big no-go on youtube, im not sure if he got a strike, or the videos were just removed, but either way you are removing hours/days or even WEEKS of someone's work. 2. chemiolis is a cool guy and puts a lot of effort, money and research into his videos, and to see him screwed over like that is sad 3. Allegedly, that chemist was puppetering quite a bit of things backstage on chemistry youtube, like nagging @alDistractions (guy who called out some science youtuber) to make videos on labcoatz (for testing caffeine analog on himself) and now Chemiolis for that fluoro-MDMA shenaningas, which is bad. 4. (Allegedly) Contacting someone's employer because he hurt your feelings is bad. 5. (Allegedly) tc is snitching to law enforcement to get chemiolis in trouble” -Prussian Blue I know that you and Josiah know each other and was hoping you would be able to talk to him and find out what’s going on. I really thought Josiah was doing good work for the community and this has changed the way I, and many others feel about him.
Jacob Vannatta
2024-11-06 19:22:48 +0000 UTCI doubt hat people who get traumatized by the guilt over having done something immoral are the kind of people who will go happily back doing the immoral thing. The kind of people who do go back doing that stuff probably didn't suffer too much from a bad conscience in the first place. If therapy would remove a patient's sense of moral responsibility over their own actions, it wouldn't be therapy - as the word is commonly used - but some quite wicked form of brainwashing. It'd be about turning healthy people suffering from psychological injury (trauma is psychologically an "open wound" that has healed improperly) into psychologically deranged sociopaths. But to entertain conspiracies: if I'd be an evil person running that kind of brainwashing operation, I wouldn't pick a bloody EMPATHOGEN as the drug of choice. Common sense says that drugs which numb emotions (perhaps combined with ones that increase aggressive to alternate them with the numbing ones as the need calls) would make the sociopath programming process much easier.
Honey-el
2024-11-06 14:45:20 +0000 UTCIs this public info, is he OK? Should I reach out to him?
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-06 01:02:46 +0000 UTCNo, I absolutely do not think that. I think she is a careerist and an opportunist who failed to adequately evaluate information being given to her by Bronner, Turnbull, et al. And made the world a more hateful and stupid place with her irresponsible reporting but I have no reason to believe she was being paid by Turnbull or Linton and would very much bet against it.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-06 01:01:03 +0000 UTCHoly shit. Hamilton needs to interview him again. We seriously need more interviews with people who have experienced psychedelic-induced psychosis. That's so horrible and I hope he gets better. I want to hear from him about what that has been like for him though.
Armchair Idiot
2024-11-05 22:01:15 +0000 UTCDo you really think that Shayla Love had any conntection to or recieved funding from Carie Turnbull? I've heard you float this idea a few times but I haven't heard any good evidence for it.
Armchair Idiot
2024-11-05 21:54:45 +0000 UTCI certainly believe Martin to be an outlier in this space. His methods werent gentle enough for me but that doesn't make his process incorrect. I like the idea that his method existed when it did because I knew a large amount of people who benefited from working with him There was a time where he had what he believed was 5-meo-DMT but actually ended up being 5-meo malt/dalt. I can't remember which but it made a few stories make more sense. I saw one of the people he was working with smoke something in public that the person believed to be 5-meo-DMT but he was able to continue talking we me through the experience. It's a crazy little world down here in Southern Oregon 🙃
Siwanand Das
2024-11-05 21:15:13 +0000 UTCI once got an angry email from a researcher in the general psymposia sphere telling me that citing “Facilitating 5-MeO-DMT: An anthology of approaches to serving the god molecule” with Ball as one of the 9 authors was an issue. To quote: “Furthermore, the citation of Martin Ball, given the severe allegations against him, as reported publicly (e.g., https://twitter.com/psymposia/status/1362404250630946817?lang=en), raises ethical concerns. Such references could potentially harm the credibility of your work and the field at large. I hold you in high regard and share this out of respect and a commitment to the integrity of our field. I would appreciate your thoughts on these matters and any steps that might be taken to address these concerns.” After I responded by saying I was citing information that informed naturalistic use practices, and it was already published I got this message. “Reading your message, I don't understand how it follows that it was necessary to legitimize cult leaders or poorly-designed clinical trials.” I have a feeling this cult stuff is gonna be the “psychosis” of the current wave of psychedelic research. Sure, psychosis and cult-like practices can happen. But far less than media hype would have us believe. This paper was also very skeptical of 5-MeO-DMT's safety and suggested its development by approaching cautiously... and yet... I got attacked a little.
Haley Dourron
2024-11-05 16:56:04 +0000 UTCOh man. That's not good that they didn't take that into consideration. Sounds like they wanted a good story more than the truth
Cheminterested
2024-11-05 16:55:04 +0000 UTCGram Petchenik told me directly
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-05 16:09:43 +0000 UTCThanks for the reply! That they "never offered a viable solution to any of the problems they identify" is one of my biggest issues too. I'm all for constructive criticism, but at a certain point you need to offer viable alternatives. With Erik Davis; I always got a sense of academic snobbery from him, but I still enjoyed Techgnosis, High Weirdness and even his latest book on blotter art. He seems to want to be a part of the counter-culture/renaissance/movement or whatever, while also afforded the remove of an academic observer that is above the muck, which adds to the snobbery. I never appreciated Pinchbeck's writing, and always took him as a forgettable low-grade cross of Wade Davis & Terence McKenna. You should do an episode just listing some of your favorite books on drugs, psychedelics, neurochemistry and related topics. And echoing the person above, Keeper Trout would be great!
B-Boy Bungus
2024-11-05 15:56:04 +0000 UTCI don't get (actually I do) that there is so much energy being spent on the gish galloping of bad faith actors. It's so easy to flood the room with shit, spread so many lies just to exhaust the good faith opposition while they're spending their energy to trying to refute all the claims. It works in politics, during covid, now this. You can't play chess with a pigeon. This is one of many episodes talking about Psymposia, trying to tip toe around their clearly nefarious tactics by constructively engaging with their misinformation and bad faith arguments. And again taking the bait. I don't have an answer to what is the best approach here, maybe a more combative tit-for-tat strategy is better, where any piece of bullshit has to be followed up with (legal) action. Unfortunately very costly (financial and energy), by which they still achieve their goals. Unfortunately it's not enough (anymore) to think that science and reason will always prevail. Light is said to be the best desinfectant, but sometimes you need the help of a little chlorine too.
Erik
2024-11-05 14:49:10 +0000 UTCHe seems to have sustained some form of psychological damage after consuming too much LSD and being hospitalized, and has been acting aggressively towards other YouTubers.
Thomas Child
2024-11-05 13:54:35 +0000 UTCThat's interesting. Where did you get the insider information about the patent lawyers comments to the show? I agree that they miss the mark sometimes. He has a group of people doing his research and writing and clearly some of them are influenced by ideas that don't hold up to scrutiny.
Cheminterested
2024-11-05 13:28:48 +0000 UTCHow so? I haven’t been following his recent stuff but he texted me a month or two ago in a non-shady manner.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-05 08:56:41 +0000 UTCI genuinely appreciate the clarity you've provided here. Thank you immensely.
Siwanand Das
2024-11-05 05:49:42 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton, you should look into the chemistry drama that’s happening on YouTube rn, figured you might find it interesting. That Chemist is allegedly acting pretty shady :/ Anyway, amazing podcast as always, keep up the good work!!
Jacob Vannatta
2024-11-05 05:27:06 +0000 UTCLeonard is brilliant man who spent most of life being ignored by serious academics. When he thought he was going to die in a cage he poured his heart and soul into a book that not many people read, Nese read his book and reviewed it and took it seriously and she (at least superficially) could be perceived as a serious academic at that time. Her praise meant a lot to Leonard . So for all Nese's faults that was a good thing for her to have done and Leonard is totally justified in appreciating her appreciation.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-05 03:22:15 +0000 UTCI thought John Oliver's takes on lethal injection were oddly focused on the (almost certainly false) idea that there is no painless way to conduct an execution as opposed to the more important idea that state-sanctioned murder is morally reprehensible even if it can be done painlessly. His episode on gene editing had an unnecessarily alarmist tone and failed to acknowledge Jo Zaynor's credentials and expertise while condescendingly mocking their work. The psychedelic assisted therapy episode used Shayla Love's moralistic patent scaremongering. Even after Shayla Love's own source, patent attorney Graham Petchenik, told Last Week Tonight's fact-checkers that it was misleading to criticize Compass for "patenting soft furniture" they did it anyway.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-05 03:14:45 +0000 UTCI know so much about these people and I really don't want to go on a ten paragraph rant, but I've attached Nese's (likely Sarlo-funded) press release and an old facebook post from David Nickels where he supports using borderline terrorist tactics to oppose Compass while voicing his support for Usona, a company founded by a multi-millionaire who made his fortune brokering oil to Exxon and Shell and another multi-millionaire (possibly billionaire) whose business has been open about its pursuit of monopolies. David Nickles has written that it is unethical to synthesize MDMA because the chemistry uses petrochemicals, but uses petrochemical-derived gas to blow his glass dab rigs, or whatever he makes. He is a self proclaimed "brawler for victim's rights" who will bully victims of violent rape like Krystle Cole if it's socially convenient. I'm not sure I have ever heard him say something that was both true and non-obvious, but I try to limit my exposure to their writing as I think it is often so stupid that it could be neurological damaging. These people stand for nothing except self-aggrandizing hatred and destruction and have never offered a viable solution to any of the problems they identify. Erik Davis is a Daniel Pinchbeck manqué with a penchant for shitty neologisms.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-05 02:45:20 +0000 UTCI'll have to rewatch that one
Cheminterested
2024-11-04 22:38:38 +0000 UTCI thought his episode on Psychedelic Assisted Therapy had some issues.
Oscar Graham
2024-11-04 22:22:15 +0000 UTCsalute to that last 20 minutes --
Devon Bray
2024-11-04 20:40:24 +0000 UTCIncredible interview, this was a joy to listen to. Thank you so much! I was wondering if you have any future plans to possibly have Keeper Trout on?
gossamer
2024-11-04 18:27:21 +0000 UTCYeah they do lol. They have no problem doing MDMA at a goa psytrance rave a few miles from an open air prison...
Knosnothing
2024-11-04 17:12:37 +0000 UTCI'd be curious if Nese came up at all in the interview with Leonard. I remember an interview with the two of them where he sang her praises pretty intensely. I find that curious...
Siwanand Das
2024-11-04 16:49:03 +0000 UTCSpeaking only in relation to Martin abusing anyone? No. Not on base at all. His methods were, and are unconventional, but he was safe and clear with every participant as far as I know. Like I said, not for everyone and I can remember conversations where in his personal life we (his friends) we're worried about his wellbeing, and we thought his obsession with symmetry was a little annoying but NEVER anything harmful on the scale of abuse. I can't remember the exact year, but around 2015 Martin hosted the "Exploring Psychedelics Conference" in Southern Oregon, and Octavio Rettig spoke on a panel about 5-meo-DMT. This was around the time the video of Rettig tasering and pouring water on a clients face while in the 5-meo-DMT state where being discussed a lot. I have a clear memory of Martin screaming about how Octavio was good man and it broke his heart to see him slandered. It was a weird and awkward end to the conference. There was audio of the rant at one point but I haven't been able to find it since then. This is the only thing I've ever seen from him that made me uncomfortable. Also Martin has a podcast called the Entheogenic Evolution where he addresses the psymposia attacks. He asked to speak with them directly and they denied him as far as I know. So it's a complicated story, as most are, but ultimately I feel like psymposia didn't help anyone by talking about Martin. They just hurt Martin, and his wife, and his son. I see them semi regularly around town. If you want to speak with him at any point I could reach out and connect you to him.
Siwanand Das
2024-11-04 16:47:21 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton. I watch John Oliver every week. I'm curious what you thought he misrepresented on medicine. I'd like to go back and watch again with that in mind
Cheminterested
2024-11-04 14:50:44 +0000 UTCHave Psymposia ever been on base on anything? They were never able to provide evidence of a single person being harmed.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-04 06:01:23 +0000 UTCThe phenomenon discussed here where we notice mistakes when reading about a subject we know well, only to more or less forget this when moving onto a topic we don't know well, was given a name by Michael Crighton: Gell-Mann Amnesia https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you
stalorne
2024-11-03 18:35:27 +0000 UTCThis was another good episode that helped sort out the issues at hand in a constructive way. Again, best $5/mo I spend for content. The reason I gave my time to listening to Psymposia was they were basically the only people offering an opposing view, opinion or critique of the psychedelic "renaissance". But they switched from broad ideas to targeted campaigns and lost my attention. I appreciate a lot of what David Nickles says in the interview you attached, but I believe he is no longer affiliated, and much of his arguments seemed to have been dropped by the people that remain. Unfortunately, with modern media (social or otherwise) you only hear the most extreme sides. A long-winded, critically thought-out argument that evaluates both sides of an issue is not ever going to gain traction in either form of media. It's either "MDMA = Net-zero trauma" or "MDMA Therapist = The Rapist" type stuff. The middle ground is essentially boring. Will MDMA help some people? Yes. Will some MDMA therapists cause harm? Yes. Will a large number of people continue to use MDMA recreationally without it harming or helping them in a broad sense? Yes. I continue to get bored with psychedelics (and MDMA) because I end up in the middle ground where I think that they will be less of a big deal on either side than people want them to be. 25+ years of psychedelic usage here, and I value sober, tangible, physical-reality activities more than ever. I find psychedelics to have diminishing returns with continued usage. Also, I'd love a little more explanation of your beef with Erik Davis, I've enjoyed some of his writing.
B-Boy Bungus
2024-11-03 17:49:28 +0000 UTCMartin Ball is a personal friend and I hold the title of youngest person to have worked with him. Psymposia seems weird off base on that one. Martin is definitely not for everyone and I personally chose to not continue working with him. He is VERY clear about what you're signing up for and I know dozens of people who would sing his praises. The crazy thing is he hasn't activatly done guide for for years.
Siwanand Das
2024-11-03 17:19:22 +0000 UTCAnother excellent discussion. I know I'm not alone in appreciating the light being thrown on this whole sordid affair. On the subject of how to respond to the attacks and smears by Psymposia et al, I think we can all appreciate the general reticence and non-confrontational approach on the part of MAPS, especially of those who are practicing therapists and scientists. But unfortunately, as is implied in the conversation, this isn't enough. Sometimes, the best defense is good offense. Psymposia and its allies have amply demonstrated their bad faith, dishonesty, and general absurdity on this matter. Anyone familiar with this stuff must realize that they have no credibility left. Gorman points out that Psymposia has presented itself as a patient advocacy group, but the idea that they could honestly and adequately help traumatized, injured people would be laughable if it wasn't so sinister. I don't know what the best pushback would be, other than the obvious case of journalism detailing how ludicrous and shady Psymposia's behavior has been. Not an easy task, but a worthwhile one. Along those lines, Gorman at one point makes reference to attacks being more like literary interpretation--I don't know if he's aware, but that's actually what Devenot has been doing lately, actually claiming, per the whole "pinning a patient down" smear, that her relevant training is in the humanities-- literary theory or something related--and that this enables her to best interpret what these case histories and written accounts *actually* mean. It's way beyond parody.
Zach
2024-11-03 16:54:42 +0000 UTCIn the interview. The intro sounds perfect. Im guessing your editor edits the interview but you edit the intro yourself? I understand the editor’s good intentions, since this is a longer interview, but I think some more breathing room should have been left in. I would much rather listen to 3hrs with some empty space for thought than 2hrs with all the gaps cut out.
Thor Correia
2024-11-03 06:52:20 +0000 UTCMan israhellis use SO MUCH MDMA lol that is already proved wrong as they all have to serve and are committing genocide and have been for over 75 years.
Mitchell
2024-11-03 02:13:00 +0000 UTCDo you notice this in the intro or the interview? It wasn't done in the intro though there was a small amount of audio glitching, not sure about the actual interview
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-02 23:10:20 +0000 UTCYeah I was nervous to just go to cheek-bulging capacity and figured I'd start conservatively since there really isn't any good information on buccal dosage online.
Ericaceous
2024-11-02 18:34:36 +0000 UTCI’m trying to! I posted about it on Twitter
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-02 17:42:00 +0000 UTCPlease go public with this if you haven't yet. Those people at Psymposia are horrible
Cheminterested
2024-11-02 17:19:28 +0000 UTCShort answer yes I think it would be constructive . I have screenshots of all messages I recieved from SS and all audio messages saved , so it’s clear to see how the exchanges went and you can be the judge . Thanks for critiquing these people on such a large platform. I truly appreciate it
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-02 04:48:16 +0000 UTCGlad to hear theres so much exciting stuff going on Hamilton! Cant wait for what you have ready for us next! ❤️
Lilveiss
2024-11-02 03:45:29 +0000 UTCI think it’s a byproduct of Psymposia and it is very important. It’s hella fucked up and has been super harmful. A reporter from ( huge media outlet) contacted me but I don’t know if it’s going to make it into their story bc they have a lot more to cover. Would love to share with you about what happened.
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-02 02:12:20 +0000 UTCAgreed
Shawhin Layeghi
2024-11-02 01:34:28 +0000 UTCThanks for writing this. Do you think it would be constructive for us to do an interview about it for this podcast?
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-02 01:17:37 +0000 UTCI was really wondering if the bad taste was from the soil or fertilizer that was used. I'll try what you did.
Toby Powell
2024-11-02 00:09:04 +0000 UTCYou see i tried that with rehydrated leaves, I chewed and swallowed all the liquid as well but the taste had me violently gagging and it was really bad. So I'm assuming you just let them sit there and sucked on them like dip or chewing tobacco. By the way man, I love your hamiltons pharmacopia series so much. Legendary meme status, " I feel like I'm being pulled backwards" lol salvia can be very sedating.
Toby Powell
2024-11-02 00:07:22 +0000 UTCWith dried leaves (after rehydrating in water) I packed my mouth to total cheek-bulging capacity, I probably could not have held a single additional leaf in my mouth. That worked. The fresh leaves in Oaxaca were far more active.
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-01 21:30:39 +0000 UTCYeah feels really good to be here and part of this community of like-minded individuals. This field is so full of uneducated lunatics that it can be so discouraging and make me feel like I should just focus my time and attention on something else. Hamilton is the only person who keeps me interested and inspired. I have an undergraduate degree in biology and just got a graduate degree in social work and a job at the VA so I can be sure to be in the pipeline for emerging psychedelic research/therapies. Feels a little bit like Dumbledore's Army from Harry Potter. I hope he knows he is inspiring a cohort of scientifically-oriented psychedelic enthusiasts who seek to emulate his critical thinking orientation to drug research and policy reform. We have your back, Hamilton.
Ericaceous
2024-11-01 18:26:33 +0000 UTCI bought the leaves in tea bags while I was in Peru (they were sold in a shop) and I tried making a quid and sucking on it. I started with 1 tea bag, and added one every 15 minutes until I had 4, but had no noticeable effects. I wonder what was missing. I mostly held the quid in the side of my mouth but tried lightly chewing it and moving it around in my mouth.
Ericaceous
2024-11-01 18:13:20 +0000 UTCI think you might be referring the the distinction made between "psychedelic" and "psycholytic" therapy; the latter is characterized by lower doses of the drug, and a more gentle, less intense experience for the patient
Zach
2024-11-01 17:34:13 +0000 UTCExcited for the great lab 😮 i can guess which it is
Helmer
2024-11-01 15:57:02 +0000 UTCI don't have access to leaves right now but I will later
Toby Powell
2024-11-01 15:09:54 +0000 UTCThanks, I’ll reupload
Hamilton Morris
2024-11-01 14:47:35 +0000 UTCYes it is really bizarre and trying to converse with Sasha in a normal way is absolutely impossible
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-01 14:36:11 +0000 UTCThanks for having the courage to out Sasha. His Twitter feed is the most toxic thing on the internet this side of 4chan. At least 4chan is more entertaining 😮💨
5hydroxytryptameme
2024-11-01 14:32:18 +0000 UTCYou should!
Michael Cunningham
2024-11-01 13:53:15 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton looks like this might be the best way to get in touch with you. I’m a former MDMA-AT for PTSD trial participant who had a very positive experience in the trial. I joined X to follow along with discussion about the trial and FDA discussion because it’s been so wild and upsetting to hear all the bad information being thrown around about MAPS and the trial. Sasha Sisko ended up privately messaging me and attempted to convince me that I’ve been "duped by a sham intervention"/ "whack a doodle nonsense ", am "regurgitating maps talking points" , am part of a cult, etc. They also sent me tons of very condescending audio messages. Really disturbing and not okay. I think this is extremely predatory and ultimately, influenced by Psymposia's rhetoric although I know they are not officially a member of Psymposia. Going after trial participants and trying to gaslight them that they have been deceived by pseudoscience ? Wild. Thought you'd be interested to know this.
Becca Kacanda
2024-11-01 13:25:22 +0000 UTCWhile definitely not a take away from this pod but I love that Puscifer was referenced. The Existential Reckoning tour was mind blowing 🤯
James Lovekamp
2024-11-01 12:57:52 +0000 UTCHamilton you should write a small paper on smoking salvia extract vs eating fresh leaves.
Toby Powell
2024-11-01 12:39:09 +0000 UTCHey Hamilton, there is an editing error: the interview concludes then the audio of the prologue repeats. Aside from that, thanks for another insightful and lively dialogue with yet another interesting guest. Godspeed
V R
2024-11-01 12:24:24 +0000 UTCPsycholothic?
Nunya Beeswax
2024-11-01 11:17:33 +0000 UTCJust wanted to put out there that as another listener I entirely agree with and want to reiterate the sentiment. We appreciate you Hamilton, thank you for your excellent work. Doubt we are the only ones either, happy Halloween everyone!
Anthony
2024-11-01 10:16:37 +0000 UTCGreat interview. It sounds like you maybe used that thing in premiere/audition that removes empty spaces between speaking? I think the pauses in most of your podcasts are good for letting me process what I’ve heard and having those removed makes the pace a bit too fast. Could be just me though. Thanks!
Thor Correia
2024-11-01 08:14:22 +0000 UTCI am laying in bed after a wonderful Halloween laughing my ass off in appreciation of all the work you do for the world. I am so appreciative of your personal transparency in the opening and just being a real human being. For real, thank you man. I appreciate you so much. Don't know what we would do without your coverage. Listening to the opening, you come across as quite courageous in your willingness to speak openly about the bullshit you are witnessing coming from powerful people. As you mention in the intro as you describe Ingman Gorman, there are a lot of level headed people in this field but few of them are journalists and therefore are not public facing. It means a lot, just from an uplifting mood stand point, to be able to hear you cover this topic and be able to say to myself "Damn, I'm so glad THIS GUY is in this field". It is an inspiration and makes me think "Fuck if I want to support drug policy reform and drug science, I better make sure I am well read, scientifically literate, thoughtful, and articulate because we need more people like Hamilton fighting the good fight". That isn't too idealize you because like I said, I like that you are transparent and human about shit, but you inspire me and that means a lot in this world that is filled with people who are "an intellectual embarrassment to the capacity of the human mind". "Happy Halloween" into the intro song... damn that shit gets me going. A very happy halloween to you my friend. Don't let them keep you down.
Ericaceous
2024-11-01 07:11:12 +0000 UTCTaking MDMA years ago was one of the most positive and life changing experiences of my life. It is criminal that it hasn’t been approved yet for use with psychotherapy, and I think it has therapeutic applications far beyond PTSD.
Julian
2024-11-01 07:08:09 +0000 UTCHoly shit bro, You are part of some wild ass women’s lives, your parents must be wild themselves.
Jeff
2024-11-01 07:05:55 +0000 UTCHappy Halloween:)
aurel
2024-11-01 06:39:57 +0000 UTCLets gooo
MrGHakt
2024-11-01 05:57:13 +0000 UTC👻
CSN
2024-11-01 05:54:41 +0000 UTCFirst comment I love you
Anthony Roman
2024-11-01 05:53:17 +0000 UTC
