Understanding Maddie Livestream
Added 2025-03-23 15:57:12 +0000 UTCThis has now taken place. The stream should be available. https://youtube.com/live/un3J8R8h4d8?feature=share
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I totally agree with you on the consent thing. And that alone is enough for me to maybe understand Maddie's reasons (and be perfectly ok with them) - while at the same time completely despising the way her work as an agent was done.
Nathaniell717
2025-03-24 13:37:11 +0000 UTCSorry if I am out of the loop, but what is the shipping community?
NP
2025-03-23 19:25:02 +0000 UTCThe Maddie hate was funny at first; but it got old so fucking fast. The root of it is the toxicity of the shipping community, because people were, unironically, yelling about how they wanted her to get killed off and how they hated her so much for the sin of *checks notes* being Caitlyn’s rebound several months after Cait and Vi broke up, *long* before her being a traitor was revealed. She is an interesting character who I wish we learned more of.
Adrian_B
2025-03-23 19:07:28 +0000 UTCI came here to post this🤣Baaah you caught me first😎😎😎👍🏻
eleana UwU ShadowWolf
2025-03-23 17:35:36 +0000 UTCeleana UwU ⸱ 2h ago Maddie hate kinda annoys me a bit. In the show there are literally worse characters than her i will explain why. Maddie was just doing her job, she was a Noxian spy from the start loyal to Ambessa. Ambessa put her there, in Caitlyn’s bed to test Cait’s loyalty and obedience when Ambessa advised her “stop hooking up with business partners” and we all know Ambessa can’t stand disloyalty and disobedience.Under the instructions of Ambessa, Maddie is the one who put the pin on the bomb in the last episode preventing the explosion that was going to happen on Victor coming at the gates of Piltover. Actually her story: Her name is Maddie Nolen. She was born in Noxus, where she was taught the Noxian beliefs at a young age. At some point, she joined Ambessa’s forces, before being chosen to be a sleeper agent for her, and was sent off to Piltover as a plant 🌱 waiting to be activated should the Noxians need to seize control of the city. Once Maddie went in Piltover, she enlisted in the Piltover Police Department, eventually becoming an elite Enforcer. Waiting for Ambessa to come over and take more orders. She is a Noxian spy and sleep agent to reveal secrets to Ambessa, because Ambessa wants to have full control Fact from the lore now: Noxians are Vikings. They believe in the old norse gods, Odin, Thor, Loki, Freya etc their religion and belief: live your life as a warrior, sleep with and kill as many people as you can to please the gods, and die in the battlefield so you go to Valhalla. This is how they honour a Viking: only if he dies on the battlefield. In my point of view, even if they took Ambessa down she was still Victorious because she achieved the two things she wanted 1) make Mel a weapon (unleash her potential) so she will be ready to take Ambessa’s throne and deal with the Black Rose, thus Ambessa acknowledged Mel as “the wolf” 2) Ambessa’s goal as any Viking is to die as a warrior in the battlefield so she goes to Valhalla So did Maddie.. Maddie was actually the loyal one until she died (that’s a very honourable for a Viking, keeping an oath until death and die in the battlefield) - this is their religion and beliefs. From Maddie’s perspective, It was Caitlyn who betrayed Ambessa that’s why Maddie was there to be a sleep agent and spy and spotify a betrayal, follow orders and execute the one who betrayed (Caitlyn) And about the sleeping agent, Viking gods encourage it. Vikings are brutal man, (i love Vikings)🤣
Lenny
2025-03-23 17:28:15 +0000 UTCI remember how off you thought the scene was when Maddie was first introduced, and I think it was meant to feel slightly off, now knowing what we know. She came on overly sweet and naïve. One hand outstretched to Vi, open, the other behind her back symbolizing her deception. This might be too sticky a subject to go into on a livestream so I understand if you don't want to get into it, so by all means ignore this if it's not something you feel comfortable talking about in a stream. But the whole thing with Maddie, I'm reminded of the scandal in the UK a while back, where undercover police officers infiltrated eco-activist groups, and had physical relations with their targets... The women who were targeted sued the police, as their consent was given under deception. Despite "just doing her job", I think it can be argued that Maddie's actions were a serious violation as I'm pretty sure Cait wouldn't have agreed to a physical relationship if she knew Maddie was an Ambessa plant... then she goes on to rub salt in the wound by telling Caitlyn "I did appreciate your warmth." before going to execute her... before that moment I actually felt sorry for her because with Vi back in the picture, she didn't have a chance... but after that... I'm glad her and her little chesire cat grin are dead.
CalicoJill
2025-03-23 17:05:22 +0000 UTC
