TDP - 4x04 - Reaction (Full)
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Once the human realized the elf was grieving, she should have spoken to another elf about the open flame. I'm down for simply moving/setting the flame outside of camp. However, that is something that another elf should be working at. Imagine a Baptist knocking over a menorah.
Jasmine King
2025-02-06 23:44:59 +0000 UTCAlso not loving the candle elf's line 'what place does a human have, telling me what to do?'. Tell me you think humans are a lower class people without telling me that humans are a lower class people.
Kaykic
2025-02-05 13:20:11 +0000 UTCBoth sides of the candle incident are in the wrong, and the show doesn't represent it very well. The Karen is a complete jackass who is logically right. He could've burned everything and unalived so many people (only elves like Janai are fireproof. He can stay up all night but the candle is clearly dangerous and he can't garrentee that an accident won't happen no matter how hard he tries. But she should have not been so quick to anger and found a better solution.
Kaykic
2025-02-05 13:17:32 +0000 UTCAaravos' manipulation of others' revenge driven minds is... Itself a ,,revenge quest"
LikeCat
2025-02-05 05:22:32 +0000 UTCBut also, honestly, I don't even think Claudia is bad. Not really. She's just a girl who tries to save her dad's life; on its own there's nothing wrong with that! Working with Aaravos is bad, for sure, but that's his deal, to manipulate others to get his way!
Aineyn
2025-02-05 04:59:50 +0000 UTCI can’t say anything. I’ve definitely dated people I knew were bad for me.
Scott
2025-02-04 23:30:01 +0000 UTCWhile Lucia's actions were certainly unkind and lacked a certain amount of empathy, it is very dangerous to have open flames in a camp made of tents. She's not putting out the flame because of some bias towards his culture, but because even if he promises to watch the flames all night, ONE spark going rogue can burn it all to the ground. And they'll need A LOT more soul candles if that happens
Mira Silverthorn
2025-02-04 20:45:07 +0000 UTC8:25 I can't believe you would insult her hair like that... I actually think it's really beautiful.
Misty Kathrine Snow
2025-02-04 03:30:49 +0000 UTCI strongly disagree and am somewhat appalled by the attempt to equate being a bit rude and undiplomatic in a dangerous situation that demands immediate action with a vicious physical attack. Furthermore there is nothing in that scene or the whole show at this point that suggests anything more than religious superstition behind the elf’s action, so “it’s a fantasy show thus normal morals don’t apply” as the broadest of excuses makes no sense to me. But I think at this point further discussion is not really fruitful.
Bernhard
2025-02-04 02:17:30 +0000 UTC"I am inevitable" ok Thanos 😅
Catradora fan
2025-02-04 00:30:32 +0000 UTCI understand what you're saying but removing a scene from the context it was in doesn't strengthen your point. It's an allegory, not a direct reflection and trying to act like it is doesn't work. This is a fantasy world, filled with elves and dragons, not the real world even if it does reflect it often. Yes, the elf lit the fire and yes he attacked the architect which was wrong of him, but blame falls to both parties here. The architect tells him to put it out and when he tries to explain the religious reason for it she doesn't offer compromise or even seem to care. All she does is double down, insult him and his culture and then put it out, which to the sunfire elves, is the equivalent of damning his mother's soul. Anyone would be upset at this. Both of them are at fault and trying to place all the blame onto him isn't right. She was intolerant and cruel to him and if she'd just calmly offered to move the flame to a different location - which was absolutely possible - none of the ensuing confrontation would've happened.
Moonlight Mariposa
2025-02-03 23:15:34 +0000 UTCOh Claudia, they could never make me hate you lol. Honestly for a second I was worried you wouldn't notice the change in the intro, but luckily you caught it at the end lol. Love your Dragon Prince reactions!
Bailey
2025-02-03 21:38:05 +0000 UTCIt has been semi-confirmed that Aaravos was the one who gave dark magic to humans... Given who (if I remember correctly) gave humans magic in the first place. (The primal stones)
LikeCat
2025-02-03 19:41:31 +0000 UTC"I don't get why (Terry) loves her" I mean, maybe she's great in the sheets? :p But jokes aside, she's kind of adorable as a person, so why not?
Aineyn
2025-02-03 18:42:57 +0000 UTCThis isn’t about a cultural misunderstanding, one of them was a bit rude, the other one endangered the people around him after being warned and then attacked and potentially crippled the former. Try to imagine the same in a realistic scenario—someone lights a ceremonial fire in the middle of a refugee camp, gets ordered to put it out because it’s a major hazard (by one of the people who built that camp for them as well) and instead violently attacks that person. Arguing that in the show the elf’s believes might have been true because it’s a fantasy world doesn’t really change the equation as every religious person in our world believes the same and the action is driven by the belief, not its validity.
Bernhard
2025-02-03 18:12:06 +0000 UTCHonestly, I live in Pasadena, with burned homes just a block from my house...so I'm a lot more sympathetic with Lucia now than I was the first time I watched this... My headcanon is that Aravos is the one that taught humans dark magic...and the one that told everyone humans couldn't do *other* magic.
David Johnson
2025-02-03 17:37:45 +0000 UTCThe difference is that the architect, while she WAS correct, was also majorly disrespectful and rude. Yes the sun elf lost control and burned her; and that IS terrible of him; but there's more nuance than that. Never once did the architect suggest to move the flame or make a compromise; she disregarded his feelings, the tribes customs, and then practically sentenced this dude's mom to some terrible fate by dousing that candle. I mean, this is a magical fantasy world, for all we know, their traditions might be based on reality. He was also in mourning and grief, I think if the girl hadn't been so harsh or had offered a compromise, he would have been willing to listen to her. It's a nuanced situation where you can see the plights of both sides. Culture and Tradition vs Practicality. It is not white or black on either side. Neither person in this situation made an effort to understand the other; they were both too focused on their own goals.
Athena
2025-02-03 17:15:34 +0000 UTC"Oh shit!" Oh yes. You wanted a threatening villain.
Ryan Porter
2025-02-03 16:43:25 +0000 UTCClaudia said herself at the start of this season that the creature that was in the chrysalis is not Aaravos, but someone who can guide them to his prison. Aaravos is still trapped in the prison, they just can't watch him now with the mirror broken.
Iron117Prime
2025-02-03 16:10:40 +0000 UTCThis conflict is so complicated I love it. Everyone has different views and values and it really shows here. I enjoyed discussing this plot when it was releasing.
Ainsley Marks
2025-02-03 14:55:26 +0000 UTC404 is a very interesting episode with so much subtlety in it I find something new each time I watch it. I hope you’re looking forward to more because it’ll start to get really crazy very soon. Also not a spoiler but the “being” is not Aaravos. Claudia explained in 401 how “the being from the chrysalis will guide you to one who has answers”. The being is just a very gremlin/gollum guide thing haha! 😏
Ainsley Marks
2025-02-03 14:28:28 +0000 UTCGuess it’s time for me to send over the Nutella and Chocolate tarts huh? Haha!! Been waiting for this day to come!!!
Ainsley Marks
2025-02-03 14:24:16 +0000 UTCI literally audibly actually said 'Respect' alongside you that one moment. Oh and fun fact in hindsight: Aaravos could have done the exact same thing he did to Callum with Viren at any time if he wanted to in the previous seasons, but he didn't since manipulating Viren the normal way was more beneficial to him in the long run.
Flufux
2025-02-03 14:21:46 +0000 UTC[MOD] Hey everyone! Remember to keep the comments free of any spoilers of future episodes for Elijah. Also, make sure we’re keeping the comments cool & comfortable for everyone here. Enjoy the reaction y’all!!!
Sam
2025-02-03 14:15:49 +0000 UTCI have a massive problem with your reaction to the conflict about the fire. Respecting local customs is fine and dandy but the fire elf was endangering the safety of the people around him—according to the person who would know best, the architect of the village. Not only did he refuse to extinguish the fire or bring it to a safe place, he severely wounded the human afterwards out of uncontrolled anger (giving him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t cold-blooded retribution). And your reaction is to say that he’s not the bad guy, that he was so sweet?! I’m trying not to take these reactions too seriously but something like that gets my blood boiling.
Bernhard
2025-02-03 13:42:49 +0000 UTCI'm so glad (even if it was by accident) that Elijah caught the change in the intro! Callum turning to stone was a massive surprise for a lot of people! It's worth noting that Claudia mentioned in a previous episode regarding the cocoon: "that's not Aaravos" - because he's trapped in a prison somewhere. The Being is a completely different individual that you will either find very gross or very loveable (or both, at least for me). Even if it's a slower episode, for me the Xadian lore, Callum's possession and the Terry/Viren interaction make it one of my favourites from S4
Rye-Ah
2025-02-03 13:28:29 +0000 UTC
