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Meeting Natani's Parents

Maybe some things are fated to be. Keith is introduced to Natani's parents, in a universe where they're still alive, suggested by Sura-Resch! Sequel to: AU - Nayana and Koan Live

How could something like this happen? I imagine instead of drifting into fox territory post-banishment, Keith traveled slightly farther north into wolf territory instead. In exchange for nursing him back to health, Natani recruits Keith to "pretend" they're now mates, just to get the family to stop nagging about it. Yep, just pretend, certainly nothing else will come of it.

For a reverse of sorts with Laura, see also: Meeting Keith's Parents

Meeting Natani's Parents

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Koan Sniffs Keith, "YEah anything that smells that bad can't taste good anyway (get the refrence?)

Netari Icefyng

Nat: REALLY? COMMON GUYS SUPPORT ME HERE I FOUND A MATE!! AND YOUR NOT HAPPY COMMON!! GIVE ME A BREAK! The little wolf: *BITes keith's armor* OWW!!

Netari Icefyng

Tom coming in with a dose of reality

Your name

I’ve made it clear already that I do not believe most people are going to be changing their minds. I wish they would prove me wrong there, but they don’t seem interested. The transphobia is the point and I won’t be silent about it

AlaricLives87

If that's the hill you wanna die on by all means go ahead. But you're not going to be changing anyone's mind who hasn't already made up their mind. So have fun wasting your time~!

Drazarg

When calling out anti-trans behavior is considered harassment, you know you're doing something right.

AlaricLives87

What that dad? No you can’t EAT HIM!

Muddypaws

Imagine thinking harassing people over your beliefs will convince them you are right. Wild concept.

Drazarg

Hmmm, I ofc agree mutual respect should be a bases of all interactions, however I've personally witnessed how those who fly the T flag act when entering other people's spaces. And...it's almost never pretty, so I understand all who are tired of these people; very unfortunately tho, online and irl. (and idk, needing to open up Notepad for a spell is weird, in a good way? idk XD) What bothers ME the most is that: I NEVER Wanted to have an Opinion on someone else's sex/gender. Like NEVER EVER. IMO that's personal biz and shouldn't publicly matter. Why should it EVER matter to someone else? But when it comes to those who look for "validation" from others, or are simply attention seekers; We are ALL forced to have an Opinion. They need the Whole World to give it to them so They can feel better about themselves, it's never something to do with us. :/ If folk as such learned to NOT be so Loud and Demand so much from people who are also living their lives & never honestly cared in the first place, I'm Very Certain things wouldn't have turned out the way it has irl. But Then, when they don't get it, they lash out... Case in Point: Calling any labeled Trans character anything otherwise will get you bombarded by every "phobia" in the book. Even when they are CATEGORICALLY WRONG ON ALL FRONTS (One Piece's Yamato & Astolfo from Fate) or wouldn't make any sense (Strive's Bridget & Sylveon...just because it's fur matches). This is classic Narcissistic behavior, whether the world wants to admit it or not. And when it comes to Natani...like I said earlier, just pay attention on who's haggling who here. tl;dr Never, like EVER cared about someone's Sex/Gender before; now i'm being forced to play this game, so I'll definitely keep speaking my mind on this matter.

Daemon Blitzkrieg

Mr. Demon, well my interpretation of the picture is not the same: as flat as the chest of Natani is drawn, he must be using bindings. But this is interpretation - both of us can not be sure what is true for this AU - only Tom knows. But he has ‚build‘ Natani as a man in a womans body so You might not be surprised when I‘m saying I think I‘m right. Two more general points: this format here is far from being suitable for real discussions. And what bothers me most is, how people might act in rl when meeting a trans person. Mutual respect imho is the baseline of any zivilized interaction.

Joshu Kel'Machan

You're parroting transphobic lies, of course people are going to call you you on that. You're the one starting fights when you don't accept corrections. Natani says he's a guy, Tom says he's a guy. You're the one doing mental gymnastics claiming otherwise. And "she has the components of a female which makes Her a female." is a textbook transphobic statement, and using it as an argument makes you, by literal definition, a transphobe. Natani being trans isn't a matter of opinion, it's empirical truth, there's no argument to the contrary that isn't rooted in transphobia or ignores massive amounts of the comic. Claiming that this is a matter of "opinion" is saying that people who support trans rights and visibility have the same merit as people who want them erased. I shouldn't have to say that's obviously not the case. "Gender confused but still a female." You're the only one confused here. "Gender: male" - Nat's ref sheet. "I'm a guy" - Nat on numerous occasions. "Natani has the mind of a guy and that's how he sees himself. He doesn't know the first thing about women or what they're like and thus doesn't relate to them at all. " - Tom himself.

Dan Vaelling

Mr Joshu, I apologize; was legitimately looking forward to your take before... well whatever that was last night. Also you're probably the calmest person on the Male Natani side on these threads, so it's good to talk 🙏🏾 Regardless, I mean...ig binding could be a thing in this AU; but imo Natani is just wearing layered & baggy clothes, like many who aren't 100% comfortable about their appearance, male or female. It's definitely a Tomboy characteristic as well, just saying ~ This pic just furthers my own theory that Nattie & the Fam are two different people, black sheep style from personal experience. Nat doesn't understand the Fam, and vice versa. Then given their push for grandkids, just makes it more awkward to be around them. I'd put money on Nat & Keith running away together after this. A change of scenery & pace could also all parties some good. 🤔

Daemon Blitzkrieg

And with that, you exposed yourself for being no better than any other transphobe here, even after I gave you a chance to prove otherwise. I highly doubt this will be your final comment because transphobes cannot help themselves when it comes to this particular character or anyone who calls them out on their anti-trans rhetoric. Maybe you'll prove me wrong here by finally shutting up. Better you be right and not comment anymore about it because you're wrong about everything else, sweetheart

AlaricLives87

Again, I praise your seemingly infinite amount of patience

AlaricLives87

Thanks That makes sense

Mr great ape

WoW an ''anti-trans-ideology'' You really love to play that one trumpet don't you. Ok then for all your talk of wanting a simple conversation I've come to the complete realization that you YES you just want to fight. this will be my final comment on this thread mainly because I realized there is no point in wasting words but in the spirit of arguing pointlessly, I'll indulge. for someone to have such mental gymnastics to Claim that everyone with a different opinion is somehow transphobic or homophobic or any other phobia that has 20 Characters Is baffling to me. and I'm so tired About all this I don't understand why people can't just shut up and enjoy something they care about, and that goes for you and me both by the way. And why does Everything that has to do with either politics or sexuality Has to be a war can we all just accept everyone has their own opinion apparently not. And YOU have a problem with me speaking my mind you've made at least 20 comments on this thread after the first two in fact you Corrected that the female in question is a ''male'' And let's not forget that you constantly contradict yourself saying you don't care about this topic and then you go and write full bloody essays about it. And yes, I am writing a said essay now I'm such a hypocrite I KNOW And I'm SO sorry I used head cannon Instead of Pointing out that she's a female for the third time in a row silly me. And finally, the character in question is indeed female Gender confused but still a female. I hope you have a good morning good Afternoon and a good night See you around. https://youtu.be/izZpMsdeo_g?si=U90b-6kO6WrnOOjt

RexTyranical

Headcanon is no excuse to perpetrate anti-trans ideology, and waving off the argument as being over a fictional character doesn't mean you're not hurting people. Think about that. As Dan suggested, you can try the subreddit first. We're all there.

AlaricLives87

Earlier you said it was the truth, and when you get called out it's suddenly just a head canon? Sounds like you're the one hurt by the truth. And if you really want conversation, you should head to the subreddit.

Dan Vaelling

[AlaricLives87 Natani threatens you] Who says I'm threatened by her she's a Fictional character drawn by a Artist who has the passion and the patience to continue a comic for 20 plus years.

RexTyranical

Because if there's not enough kids to work the land and help the family, everybody dies.

Thomas Fischbach

Mr. Demon: No, there are no bindings visible, but Natanis plentiful bosom is also not visible and as an AU with totally altered characters would not make to much sense: Nat is wearing bindings is the imho best interpretation on what we see. Also: why should someone wear such uncomfortably strong bindings if he does not want to hide his assets?

Joshu Kel'Machan

Mh, donmore3000, I don't think so, just from the point he does his bindings in this AU also and tries to hide his female body. On the other hand: yes, he is normal, as being trans may be seldom but in no way not normal as it's a biological condition the same as having red hair or finding coriander tasteful and no one has a choice to hinder it. ;) As I do not want to start another war here: there is the book Incognito from David Eagleman (2011) on what determines the "higher" functions of our brain mostly on our conscious and unconscious reactions.

Joshu Kel'Machan

Mr Rivca, may I legitimately ask...what are you even on about?? Firstly this username is old, but stuck. Why does it matter? Secondly, nothing I stated was political; only with excitement for what could be next. So excuse me while I match your energy. Thirdly...if you WANT me to be "political", I can. 🤨 Because I Can Get Real Here... As in One: stating the Truth or an Opposing Opinion does NOT mean it is Hate Speech, aka your "Transphobia". Two: The entire push of Genderism reinforces Gender Stereotypes, with the main culprit right now being Transgenderism; with all the forcing/need to act this way or that to be considered a certain Sex. Effectively (as you so delicately put it) Erasing that person of Who They Were, to become Someone They Are Not. Aka NOT Gender Freedom or Expression Three: And as many times you've called me out my name just now...I won't do the same; not worth it. I know I said nothing offensive here & am also Correct in my further statements. Rex is also correct, as questioning your Sexuality and/or place in the world does not equate to Trans, in fact the opposite. I understand Ts want their (actual/literal) reps for their...states of mind, but they are looking in the wrong places. If that's all this evening, I'll be taking my leave of you. Good night ~

Daemon Blitzkrieg

Based af Alaric, and I'm sure Thomas agrees with you on this one. Surprised that someone like Lawrence sticks around for a trans friendly cartoon when he's so clearly a transphobe lmao

Jourangela

Yes. Natani is a trans-gay male. You could take it a step further and call him a Keithsexual

AlaricLives87

OK, now I'm a bit confused. Nat is trans. Ok... Nat is obviously in love with Keith, and male... Does this mean Trans Natani is gay for Keith? Don't get me wrong, I'm not objecting, just kinda confused...

JasonAW3

Just because his parents (or indeed Natani himself) might not understand or respect his identity doesn't mean we can't.

Dan Vaelling

Natani is a trans guy, this has been explicitly stated numerous times by Natani himself in the comic, and by Tom out of comic, there's literally no legitimate argument to the contrary. To claim anything else is a bigoted denial of the truth.

Dan Vaelling

Shush.

AlaricLives87

I take it you're speaking to one of the cowards who blocked me after I called them out. I'm sorry you're being subjected to their nonsense, as I have apologized to Joshu, too, who should be considered a saint for the amount of patience he's shown towards them

AlaricLives87

The only BS is the anti-trans rhetoric that continues here, thanks to users like you who will not entertain the thought of listening to reason or showing a shred of respect or decency. I suspect this goes well beyond some of you just not wanting to be wrong. In fact, the truth does hurt, but that truth is that a transmasc character like Natani threatens you. What is being threatened, whether it's your sexual orientation or personal beliefs, I don't know. But this projection by some of you that the character cannot be trans no matter what is pathetic. You insist on using the incorrect pronouns and either belligerently ignore the facts presented to you, including the author going on record using he/him pronouns, or you fly off the handle about woke pronoun police officers ruining everything. And here I say again, trans people exist, and there are Twokinds fans who are trans. They see what you all post. How do you think it makes them feel? This is why I will not stop calling it out. If you have more going on and it's something you wish to talk about in private, or if you'd want to listen and learn, I'm not opposed to talking things out. But if the point is to misgender and push what is transphobia, even if you don't view yourself as transphobic, then I can't help you.

AlaricLives87

She is actually normal in THIS AU, parents alive, no spiritual damage, no telepathy and no gender dysphoria. So blessed.

donmor3000

This has given me a headache. ok Natani Is a female sorry but the truth hurts. she has the components of a female which makes Her a female. and yes she is conflicted with her sexuality but being conflicted of ones own sexuality does not make one trans. and it has been shown multiple times that Natani likes both men and women and that makes her Bisexual. you can criticize this comment and that's fine by me poke all the holes you want into it.

RexTyranical

Mr. Blitzkrieg, I see why you chose the name you did. I very carefully chose my language given the context of the comic and the content of this sketch. Being blind to the fact that Natani's "endowments" under normal circumstances does not excuse your behavior, nor does it excuse you for choosing to make my point a political statement. Choosing not to recognize a person foe who they are and erasure of that person are very political and highly disrespectful. Do us all a favor and find your way off of this page. Your hatred is not welcome here. By the way, Dan, I'm not trying to erase Natai here, but given the established lore from this sketch, I'm keeping my observations to this sketch, which means for better or for worse, I'm not going to edit my earlier post. It's likely his parents can't understand with their background in this context, but we may never know given their canon position. Edit: I can no longer see Daemon Blitzkrieg's messages. It appears they either got blammed off the platform (Masks willing) or they chose to block me. Either way, it's not a good look.

RivCA

Mr Joshu, I would love to know where you see bindings on this Natani, 'coz an undershirt is not a binding & many people wear them for multiple reasons :/

Daemon Blitzkrieg

"Can I get a grandchild out of this thing?" WE DAMN WELL HOPE SO!

ThirdKind

Quick correction: first word was the name Nyana, not Nanna. Automispell strikes again!

wjd1206

Glad you liked it, creepy. Do remember your he/him pronouns and have a nice day.

AlaricLives87

Cool sperg out.

K_D Lawrence

Yes. I told you, so long as you keep misgendering the character, I will be there to correct you, and for anyone new here who thinks I'm getting on your case unfairly, I need only remind you and show everyone that this was you, not so long ago with quotes like: "Then the buzz words came out, you must be a trans man, always have little dood energy. And Mr Alaric, I am gay and I was bullied into accepting into the front hole. The LGBT is making us look like deviants when all I want is not to be judged being with my boy friend. I will point to the recent election to show how the majority is starting to feel about the activits behavior. I am now done shitting up Tom's comment section with spurging." and: "I don't care this about this argument, it has been going on for about 20 years now. I don't do the gender stuff IMO." and: "You TQ's make us gays and lesbians look like a bunch of loonies." and: "I don't relate at all to the community. It is NOT my community, I am just gay not LGBT+, that is it." It's not about having a difference in "oPiNiOns." This was never about that with the likes of you. It's malicious and anti-trans. That's it. I won't let any of it slide here, just like other users with a shred of respect and decency have shown. And I will point out again, again, and again that not only do trans people exist, but there are Twokinds fans who are trans. Simply ignoring your nonsense is comparable to silence, and silence enables this behavior and encourages an unwelcoming environment for all LGBTQ+ fans.

AlaricLives87

No

K_D Lawrence

*He.

AlaricLives87

Okay

Mr great ape

Aww she is so cute. Reminds me when someone doesn't want to be in a relationship and pays their good friend to get the parents off their back and they end up in love. Would make a good sidcom.

K_D Lawrence

Everyone may be surprised.

eddi_TBH

Legacy. ...also Tradition

Daemon Blitzkrieg

Keith being too scrawny for Natani to both parents (albeit for different reasons) is such a delight. Don't kill the Cabbit youngling, he just might help you find some cousins in the near future... 😅

Daemon Blitzkrieg

I just love the "Can I get grandchildren out of this thing" line.

TheLoreMaker

Awkward Family Pressure, is the answer you're looking for 🍵

Daemon Blitzkrieg

WebP again.

Orekh

Why parents all ways want grandchildren

Mr great ape

"Can I get grandchildren out of this thing?" -A question we all want to know the answer for, and will probably have to wait a decade to find out...

AetherSprite224

What? Everybody dies! Sooner or later.

RivCA

Keith: Am I going to die? Natani: Yes. Keith: That's what I was afraid of...

SCD

Nanna also referred to Kieth "can I get grandchildren out of this *thing*". Not polite, but unfortunately fairly common, even in today's society. Brings up an interesting question though, would Natani be emotionally able to carry a pregnancy and give birth knowing how uncomfortable he feels with his body? I like to think love would overrule discomfort...

wjd1206

That really, really awkward moment when you meet your love's parents.

Some Foxy

One of Zen's pups! Figures right?!

wjd1206

Funny how Natani didn't even bother introducing Keith by name, he's just... the mate.

aphelius

Somebody hungry

aphelius

Lots of tension!

Jonathan

Who is that about to bite Keith?

Rueme

Oh. Well, that goes without saying.

Drazgon

Oh, What an "INTERESTING" idea I just had... Keith with BOTH Laura and Natani, meeting all three sets of parents... Keith's, Laura's AND Natani's parents... In the same place, at the same time...

JasonAW3

No, I don‘t. But I‘m wondering why Natani emphasizes that Keith is a male, what should be obvious … perhaps there was some more mockery about him not coming up with a mate.

Joshu Kel'Machan

Typical mom. And dad too. Some things all in Keiths position need to stand.

Michael Weskamp

Makes you think that Natani prefers females, hm? Interesting, if this is true.

Drazgon

I'd like to think Zens son there saying he's going to bite Keith is actually his way of accepting him into the family.

bowman502

*Woosh* 😆 Way to grab yourself a Keith there Natani! 🤣

Saberbeam

Once again, this AU hits hard. Despite its intended comedy, the real world implications are all too relatable. Natani is using Keith as his beard so he can straight pass and avoid coming out to his parents as Transmasc. Of course, the silver lining here is that they still fall in love no matter what universe they’re in, and Natani eventually gets to be as much a trans male here as he’s progressing in the main comic.

AlaricLives87

It's been straight up stated that the whole Soul thing and mind link had no impact on Nat's gender.

Dan Vaelling

Koan: "Let's get one thing straight: I don't like you. I think you're too scrawny and small to reliably defend yourself. But Natani chose you, for some reason, so I'll go get the town magister to oversee the binding ceremony."

Anonymous1988

Yes, Glenn, You are right: that should be one of Liliths and Zens pups.

Joshu Kel'Machan

Koan(?) is a typical father.

Glenn Sellers

Thanks. Now, I'm wondering how long it took Laura to convince Keith he didn't need to wear them.

Glenn Sellers

I thought those were Zen's pups. I guess I misunderstood.

Glenn Sellers

Interesting, I didn't notice before that Natani is pretty obviously still binding in this AU. IIRC, this is Youngtani grown up - because their parents survived, Zen and Natani never fell in with the assassins and thus never went after the wizard that damaged Natani's soul. Which means no mental link and no Zen-induced gender-confusion. Kind of puts paid to the idea that Natani wasn't at least gender-fluid even before the link. And he still clearly has an issue with acknowledging his attraction to Keith. XD

Vicroc4

One of their little siblings https://www.patreon.com/posts/120971976?utm_campaign=postshare_fan

Turtle CEO

I remember a few years ago, Tom made him that way intentionally,

Turtle CEO

Now we need Natani's mom and Flora's mom talking like "Some bunny cat thing! I dont think they can have kids!" "Youre telling me; mine is with a the Grand Templar!"

Customaera

Nat's mother is a simple wolf with simple priorities. Respect.

Rook Prime

Tom, you do facial expressions so well! Keith's is perfect for the situation.

feralcat52

‚Ta-Da male‘ - so there seem to have been some rumors about Natani in his family in this AU …

Joshu Kel'Machan

Who's the little gremlin about to bite Keith??

Riley Gundersen

She's definitely got that mom mentality going on. XD

Vicroc4

"Can I get grandchildren?" Yes, you can: https://www.deviantart.com/twokinds/art/Northern-Couple-Big-News-952153924

J. N. Squire

Basitins are naturally super strong and sturdy, so I think Keith won't take long to dispel any comments about his supposed weakness! 😃

J. N. Squire

"You're overheating with all these stuffy clothes, young man! Remove at least the ankle wrap—" Keith: "NOT THE ANKLES 😳"

J. N. Squire

I just assumed some kind of countryside accent

J. N. Squire

I can totally imagine Natani's dad giving poor Keith a complex about being called a shrimp, causing him to go full Ed Elric.

Wild Space Saga

No matter the AU, the gaybois always find each other.

Dan Vaelling

Those parents' comments sound very familiar.

Vulpine

i do hope they'll accept him for who he is and have fun with alot of family activities

silver dragonia

I love that Nayana isn't even concerned about them being partners, and instead jumps straight to grandchildren

Noxitious

Dad is going straight into attack mode.

Magra215

Every wolf just thinks Keith is a scrawny fox with weird ears much to his dismay

Spillthefire6

He's a good boy. Please let him be your husband.

Golden_Pawz

Cute,she will probably develop more with keith than just having to use him to get her parents off he back,lol

Isaiah James

By the end of the night Keith and Koan will be full drinking buddies and he will approve of his daughters hand in marriage

Spillthefire6

The child wanting to bite him is the funniest part of this to me. All around it's great, but that kid is awesome. Might make a D&D character based on that one.

Delta Hawk

Likely referring to basitins as a collective and not just Keith specifically.

Jeebüüs

I'd like to think this AU still has the bit where Keith stabs Zen from behind that one time. I don't know how it would work out though.

Jacob

“Ta-Da! Male.” Is now in the running for my favorite Natani lines. Right along with “Tail! You traitor!”

AskDerpyCat

Trust me, Nayana and Koan, Natani is in safe hands and so is Keith lol I think you guys will warm up to him :)

RemyHindle

I see that little gremlin down there about to bite Keith

Avatardragon

Very cute 😂

AFrickinDwarf

Koan going into full Papa Wolf mode.

Wilford B. Wolf

That child has some serious biting issues😂

Emil Jensen

Natani just said "male" and they still think of Keith as "them"?

Stephen Gilberg

Nice job, Tom. This is great. 👍

Colin Algire


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