One Piece Episode 470 UNCUT REACTION!
Added 2025-02-08 08:00:06 +0000 UTCComments
Get him past Vista before you start glazing
Matthew Gilroy
2025-02-09 04:56:35 +0000 UTCLindsay questioned why they still have marine fodders when they now have Pacifistas. I think it can be compared to Robots and AI in our world, they're currently on transition period replacing human workers.
josephocenada
2025-02-09 04:46:10 +0000 UTCNot 1 named attack from my boy Mihawk
LaDarius
2025-02-09 04:11:59 +0000 UTCIm not ignoring anything, im watching the same show you are dude. But everything you mentioned contradicts itself. You are saying the point of the broadcast was announcing aces father, but then after the announcement they could execute ace with or without the broadcast. Executing him ahead of time with the cameras online (or offline) would have no negative impact whatsoever. That was always the main point, im not into huge texts or having an ego contest of who knows more about a manga, so lets leave it at that
pedro I.S
2025-02-08 23:54:59 +0000 UTCIf that was the case they would have killed Ace a while ago and not even bother with the war let alone bringing him to marineford. We spent the last few arcs with Characters wondering what the government is thinking for putting up such a big show of strength to execute Ace. The response was given at the beginning of the Arc. Ace being Roger's son. His death isn't because he's a 'criminal' or the crimes he committed by themselves. All those things are being mainly ignored because to them the symbol of the Pirate King's blood still living is much more dangerous as the people of the world fear it. This war is being broadcasted mainly for that reason. That's why it's so messed up that they use his birth alone as a reason to kill him. That's why it's so messed up they killed thousand of babies because they COULD BE Roger's son. This execution is the same thing. That extremism is here for that reason. And for that execution to happen they had to set an execution time at which people will be following the war, that's how their manipulated communication work. The Navy doesn't need the world to see Ace being killed, that's not the point, they need the world to see their 'strength' and 'justice' alone enacted. People in the world care that Roger's bloodline is still alive and want it erased, hence their reaction to the reveal. If it didn't matter it wouldn't create such a reaction. Which is the point about the Sins of the father being projected on the child being so unjust. They had their big reveal and the importance of the events broadcasted now they can act like they lost the feed and proceed to execute him ahead of schedule. Whether they win or not against the pirates, the world will mostly remember that Ace would have been killed and the marines are 'safe' to trust. When even an emperor couldn't stop them. This war is also a reason to try to get rid off one of their biggest enemies. That's why all their forces are gathered, including Warlords who have for purpose to balance the powers of the world with the Navy. If you want to ignore all this just to say the execution time is just a plot point then you do you. But Sengoku's speech is extremely clear on the reasons why.
Sanji Joestar
2025-02-08 23:04:55 +0000 UTCSengoku said that, ok, but that doesnt make it make sense, they just made him say it because they wanted to make it so the navy couldnt just kill ace anytime they wanted. What the WG wanted to hide about ohara was that the poneglyphs are related to the void century, what they wanted to hide about moria is that a second warlord got defeated in a short spam of time. But ace being killed at a different time doesnt affect anyone. That is what i dont buy. Nobody at all would care if they killed him before the schedule time. The argument of using ace as a shield so that whitebeard doesnt destroy everything also doesnt make sense because the navy made it clear that if it was alredy the correct time they would just execute him straight away. Does broadcasting Marineford bein invaded makes them look strong? No. Does beoadcasting a war is something a transparent government need to do. No, as matter of fact its morally better to not even broadcast it at all. So Sengoku isnt really a good example of the WG changing history, even though they do that. It also doesnt make sense that its "convenient" for them to kill ace during the lost footage....its a broadcats of an execution, what do people think its going to happen? Everything that alredy got shown alredy makes the navy look worse than just killing hik right away. If anything, theres probably people watching who dont like the fact that they are not killing him right away to just get it over with. They are even risking to lose the chance to even kill him at all. If you really think killing ace during HIS EXECUTION would "100% be seen negativelly by the world" than i guess we just disagree and thats it.
pedro I.S
2025-02-08 22:46:14 +0000 UTC@pedro I literally quoted Sengoku's own words about losing the faith in people. What do you mean you don't buy that Lol That's not me saying it it's the story itself commenting on it, if you want to ignore it, go for it, but there's a reason it's there. Just like how propaganda and media manipulation is literally a plot points for most of the previous chapters and arcs. The government hiding the truth about Ohara, calling ppl who only looked into history as devils seeking to destroy the world to justify their actions; hiding the reason behind Crocodile's defeat being thanks to a pirate and not a marine; hiding the reason why Moria was defeated and instead doing everything to have him present in the war to reassure the warlord position instead of having him opt out right after they lost Crocodile. I could go on and on about the world government and marines manipulating the public's perception of their 'justice' to be seen as 'heroes' I don't even get why there's anything to disagree about here. The random citizen of the world don't have any idea the atrocities the government committed because they're ignorant of it. The war having a random footage lost is convenient for them to set up and kill Ace. That's not the honorable side they've been putting on and would 100% be seen negatively by the world. It is a plot point because it's important lol. Saying it's just a plot point doesn't contradict any of this.
Sanji Joestar
2025-02-08 22:16:01 +0000 UTCI just want to point out, everything mihawk said about luffy this episode could be applied to one other person. My goat and future pirate king captain buggy. We have seen his crew increase from the beginning of the series and like luffy people seem to flock to him and follow him. His one charismatic character.
Sonicluis
2025-02-08 21:54:14 +0000 UTCyeah im sorry but i dont really see any of that. they just needed the execution time to be a plot point. "oh my god they executed that guy i dont personally care about ahead of time, i feel so deceived, i whink i cant trust the goernment anymore" doesnt feel like a thing. Also citzens of One Piece have a religious belief in their government, shown by existence of the celestial dragons, and nobody is really concerned about losing the faith of the people, especially regarding schedule logistics during a war thats killing hundreds of marines every minute
pedro I.S
2025-02-08 20:34:32 +0000 UTCBuggy is literally farming clout by just being there lol.
EOussama
2025-02-08 19:11:30 +0000 UTCI love hearing how excited you guys are to be watching at the beginning of all these episodes!
ChocoBoshi
2025-02-08 18:50:10 +0000 UTCGet better Carson! Play with an AI voice to throw us off. I read after your tonsils are removed your voice can slightly change for a bit
Nicolas LeBlanc
2025-02-08 18:31:16 +0000 UTCToei my gosh
Donovan
2025-02-08 17:34:52 +0000 UTCOne thing that i hate that the anime changed is when Mihawk does the first slash at Luffy, in the manga he does it closer to the ground and it goes between peoples feet,meaning he has that level of control, to single out a target in the gian chaos tha is this war.
emilio corvalan
2025-02-08 14:14:29 +0000 UTCLindsy is Oda confirmed, or at least they share same mind :D You asked for Buggy vs Mihawk - > you got Buggy vs Mihawk xD
Jack Shadow
2025-02-08 13:22:54 +0000 UTCI dont think its that. Just intuition fron Luffy.
menofhorror
2025-02-08 13:19:44 +0000 UTCMihawk's speech about the most formidable power sailing the seas! Pushing everyone to help you, an area of effect attack that doesn't distinguish friends from foes! From Buggy to Hancock or Crocodile and so on. (Also side note but Jinbe and Mihawk actually never clashed, love the anime adding him backing up Luffy for the speech but yeah didn't happen in the manga)
Sanji Joestar
2025-02-08 11:01:17 +0000 UTCIf you think of the public communication as propaganda, it makes complete sense to cut the coms. As you've seen before they are very concerned about losing face or at least prepared to change the narrative to their advantage (Alabasta, Enies Lobby, etc). They want the public to know that they got Ace and that they will execute him, and if things were going smoothly they would probably show everything. Sengoku saying that they need to resort to anything means even if it makes them look bad. It lines up with the past events that if there's a risk of them looking bad, in difficulty or weak for whatever reason, then they don't want the public to see it.
Jambron
2025-02-08 10:58:52 +0000 UTCCan't believe Pandaman got killed and turned into a capeπ
Sanji Joestar
2025-02-08 10:54:33 +0000 UTCThe schedule time is a show of strength from the marines, but to also hide their 'ugly side'. ' oh oops the feed cut at this particular moment guess history'll never see what they did there.' '' Tomorrow at 3PM Portgas D Ace will be executed '' while the whole world is watching. If they succeed it shows to the world that the Navy has the strength to back up their claims and continue with it even against an emperor. Now for example, if they announced it at 3Pm but by 12Pm turns out they already executed him. The world could perceive it as the marines being deceptive but also afraid of Whitebeard. And since this execution is about more than just Ace, but ''killing the Pirate King's son'', they want to portray it as might, strength, and their justice never failing. '' We mustn't lose the world's trust. The shock of what's about to happen might shatter the trust people have in us. There's no need to broadcast this tragedy to the rest of the world. In a few hours, the inhabitants of the world needs only know that WE were victorious. That is all. '' Manipulating information and history yet again and live! Also yh i guess the Pacifista do play in that factor
Sanji Joestar
2025-02-08 10:51:10 +0000 UTCThe whitebeard pirates have many members who could stop mihawks attacks. He can't just cut the ships. Also the warlords are not 100% allinged with the marines, they all have their own motivations.
Golden Hotdog
2025-02-08 10:01:31 +0000 UTCMihawk probably cut down krieg's ships to hit him where it hurts because it was one of the few things krieg was proud of. His 50 ship fleet was basically the thing he bragged about the most so that's probably why he destroyed the fleet there and not here.
Paragohn
2025-02-08 09:01:20 +0000 UTCI love Mihawks little speech about luffys ability to rally people he really do be inspiring people
charlie
2025-02-08 09:00:13 +0000 UTCLuffy advances, gets thrown back. And it repeats. Scaling is problematic in many anime, I would say. Like 100 000 marines, distance between Whitebeard and Ace, Area Of Effect Attacks
Y M K
2025-02-08 08:47:16 +0000 UTCThats exactly what I was thinking And the gorgon sisters did the same shit
BOLDcast
2025-02-08 08:45:53 +0000 UTCYeah it's the pacifistas they don't want to show I think. Imagine the government having an army of beings that can blow up ships. The countries of the world/people would be afraid and maybe the revolutionary army might gain strength.
apathy
2025-02-08 08:39:29 +0000 UTCRemember "MANTRA" from Skypia arc?? seem similar to what Luffy did here vs Mihawk?
Chriz
2025-02-08 08:27:32 +0000 UTCThe 2nd half of one piece is about to begin. It only gets better πͺ
Rook964
2025-02-08 08:23:58 +0000 UTC
