EARLY UNCUT: Gilmore Girls 5X22 (Season Finale) Reaction
Added 2024-07-20 17:49:27 +0000 UTC
Comments
Not sure if it's just me, but my comments seem to get deleted?
AmyWonderland92
2024-07-30 11:37:36 +0000 UTCYou summed up perfectly why some of us are not Logan fans. I don't hate him and I do believe he's a good boyfriend I just dislike the privileged world he represents and I didn't really want Rory to be with someone like him, so their relationship was never a great interest to me. Also, I agree 100% with your take on Rory's dropping out of Yale situation. As someone who went to college at the same time as she did, I kinda understand her "reasoning". I was constantly told I was special, I was told my good grades was all it took to succeed in life. I was not prepared for what I faced on my first real life job lol . My big difference is that I didn't have rich grandparents to pamper me and I was forced to figure things for myself, so I guess that was good in the end. But yeah, I'm in the minority that actually likes this Rory storyline, because I think it makes sense for someone like her, even though it's frustrating as hell lol.
Carolina Caba
2024-07-24 16:20:22 +0000 UTCHonestly, I really can't agree with people who hate Rory. I understand that the choices she makes, especially in the last season and this one, are very frustrating to watch, but I think they make sense. She grew up very sheltered, adored by everyone in her family and town. So it makes "sense" that she would feel entitled to Dean despeite the fact that he's married. It makes "sense" that she wants to quit after hearing someone she obviously admires tell her she doesn't have it. And I'm not sure if that was a 'harsh truth'. Rory has proven rather skilled when it comes to journalism and clearly has a passion for it. Obviously she's not perfect, but she's still young. As for Logan. I think he and Rory are great together. They challenge each other. She puts him in his place when needed and he does the same to her. He also makes her come out of her shell. They actually share the same interests. He's been nothing but supportive and sweet to her and clearly cares about her deeply.
in omnia paratus
2024-07-21 18:21:39 +0000 UTCI think Lorelai is in the wrong here. She did not listen to Rory and did not try to find other options for her. She just said "no you won't quit" which is the wrong thing to do completely. She acted like a child and I know quitting won't solve anything but Rory is smart when it comes to education, why not trust her? It's her life! At this moment, I lost the ideal image that I had of their relationship cause she needed guidance and support and not confrontations ! Everyone started to hate Rory here but I'm mad at lorelai and I started to "dislike" her a bit ( crazy right?? ) I don't understand why people don't like Rory anymore cause she's changing her mind. Getting lost and finding yourself is normal at that age and with the financial support she has, completely feasible !
Clara Ventura
2024-07-21 17:34:21 +0000 UTCI think the biggest problem with what mitchum said is that it was clearly just supposed to be about how she did at the internship, she never asked if he thought she was good enough to make it as a journalist but he made it about that, he didn’t actually give her feedback, just reasons why she would not make it, if she had asked if he thought she was good enough and then reacted this way when he said no I think I would have agreed she was being immature but this was just mitchum being an ass
Line Johansson
2024-07-21 08:44:54 +0000 UTCAmy and Dan were gone for S7 but they were there for S6
Katrina
2024-07-21 05:34:46 +0000 UTCHere’s my take on Rory’s situation… From the get-go, we’re let to believe that Rory is this sweet, smart, perfect girl who can do no wrong. She grows up being the town's darling, lorelai's life work and the one who’s supposed to fix all her mom’s "mistakes" and finally make her grandparents proud. And up until the middle of season 4, that seems spot-on. But then, from the end of season 4, the show starts showing that Rory is, well... human. And it feels like this is the first time Rory herself is realizing it. In college, she finds out she’s not as brilliant as she thought (bad grades in season 4). She asks a guy out and gets her first “no.” Then she falls for Logan, but he doesn’t immediately fall for her like the others. (Why isn’t he calling? What’s wrong with me?). Then comes the job. When she steps into the real world, she gets her first ever negative feedback. Don’t get me wrong. Logan’s family sucks, and they’re some of the most unpleasant characters in the entire show. But I think the whole plot was set up for a reason: to show Rory that she’s not everyone's dream daughter-in-law. She’s not pampered at work too and gets harsh, ruthless feedback. For the first time, she realizes she’s not special. And she just doesn’t know what to do now that she’s not special. This is super common for kids who grow up shielded from the world’s harshness and believing they are some kind of precious snowflake. Sorry, kiddo, but sometimes life is going to kick your butt, and you need to know how to handle it and bounce back. Rory doesn’t know how. She never thought she’d have to deal with failure. And then there’s the whole thing with Logan. Now we can talk more openly about why Logan gets so much hate from some of the audience. First off, I want to say I like Logan and Rory’s relationship, and I still think he’s the best boyfriend she has in the series. But I get why some people don’t like him, and here’s why. Logan is a playboy. Rich, privileged, and he uses his status to get out of situations like the yacht incident. If he gets arrested, Daddy hires a lawyer and fixes it. If he drops out of college and wrecks a boat, his sister bribes the coast guard and gets him out of it. What I’m saying is, Logan is used to living a privileged life without worrying about the consequences of his actions, like many people with his social status. While Logan isn’t directly responsible for the choices Rory makes, part of the audience tries to blame him for being a bad influence or being okay with the bad choices Rory makes. That’s because Logan is the kind of boyfriend who doesn’t interfere with her decisions. He just lets her be herself. And the audience is like, “See, he should be the one putting some sense into her,” which is a normal reaction to the feeling of betrayal we get when we see Rory not living up to the expectations we had for her throughout the show. The show’s audience has a hard time accepting that Rory isn’t perfect, which is why they start rejecting her more and more. You mentioned an important point in this video, Joe: “The episode wasn’t bad, but it was frustrating.” That’s exactly how I feel watching season 6. It’s definitely not a bad season. It has several great episodes, but it’s definitely frustrating. And that’s why it’s the most controversial season of the series (until AYITL). Anyway, that’s my opinion. Bring on season 6, and may God have mercy on our souls.
Flavia Barcellos
2024-07-21 04:34:42 +0000 UTCSame 🥲
Ali
2024-07-21 02:40:22 +0000 UTCi love gilmore girls. i have rewatched it countless times. however i always ALWAYS restart before season 7 even has a chance to roll around. i can't bear it lmao. it's just not the same and honestly i see screencaps/scenes from it and forget they ever happened.
Lara
2024-07-21 01:49:39 +0000 UTCyou put this so well
Lara
2024-07-21 01:45:51 +0000 UTCREAL but also he was so harsh like damn bt also haven't watched this yet so im excited woop
Lara
2024-07-21 00:35:47 +0000 UTCAs a former A-student who fell off a little as a 25yo and took a "break" from University studies I understand Rory, getting through demanding studies when you don't really know what you want and you don't have a clear goal in mind is hard! But I also understand Lorelai, getting back on track after a break is also hard... I made it through 4 and 1/4 years of my studies but now I have had a "break" for 5+ years and still have that last 3/4 year left to get my degree. But once you settle in a comfotable routine it's not that easy.
Gabriella Lynghed
2024-07-20 23:13:49 +0000 UTCAgree 100% this is why I could never be team Logan. Sure he supports her, but he also supports her "bad" behaviour
wanira 11
2024-07-20 22:56:00 +0000 UTCRory proves Mitchum right by quitting instead of refocusing. He is also a big ass because the internship was supposed to be something to make up for the bad family dinner. He could have said something like "you should be more assertive" and then give her another week or two to improve. There is nothing that Mitchum said that wasn't true.
Wayne Joy
2024-07-20 22:24:27 +0000 UTCExactly...Logan didn't make her steal the yacht, but he sure played along and doesn't *really* seem to see a problem with it in hindsight, either...as long as there are good lawyers available...
Yasemin
2024-07-20 21:00:31 +0000 UTCRory does need to learn to be thougher but she’s still young and just not there yet, no part of me thinks those were crocodile tears, the situation just snowballed out of control and she couldn’t handle it
Line Johansson
2024-07-20 20:57:38 +0000 UTCI think the issue with Logan is not that he leads Rory to do bad things but he does condone her behaviour (maybe partially because they are in a relationship), the scene with Finn and Colin saying this police station is nicer than other ones they've picked him up from really solidify this. Logan's not going to stop this kind of stuff because he does it too and I think that's where the dislike starts to happen. Logan is in his early 20's still condoning this, which is why I get Lorelai's real dislike towards him. Unlike Jess as a teen, her worries are valid, if a grown adult is still encouraging and actively aiding Rory's poor decisions then how bad could it get. I think also Logan's nonchalant attitude to the Yacht incident speaks volumes about how reckless his group of friends are- Lorelai wasn't wrong when she said the Life & Death brigade are a bunch of entitled, spoilt kids and no sane parent would want their child involved in crowds where they have little care in the world about things everyone else respects.
Rebecca L-M
2024-07-20 20:56:10 +0000 UTCI also disagree about the back-stabbing re. Emily and Richard. Again, it's not black and white. I think initially, Emily and Richard had every intention to back Lorelai on this, but Rory's visit changed things for them. Not saying they're making a great choice, but it's understandable where they're coming from (Richard mentions "putting her back on track" and Emily points out how Lorelai didn't want Rory to move back in with her, so they saw this as a solution for the time being.) The way it's communicated, of course, sucks (as in, "what we have decided"), but it doesn't seem to be just back-stabbing.
Yasemin
2024-07-20 20:41:00 +0000 UTCAs a girl in her early 20s trying to decide what to do with my life I 100% understand Rory in this, she has every right to take a break and question if she really wants to be a journalist after being told by the biggest name in the business that she won’t make it as one, I disagree that she should just be motivated by this, I mean yes that would be great but in this situation it’s not super realistic to think that, at least not at first
Line Johansson
2024-07-20 20:32:45 +0000 UTCi really can’t discuss this much further in the comments here because i don’t want to spoil for joe, but she quite literally does not have any intention of it being a break. i would be happy to discuss this more because i know it’s really polarizing, but we need to either do it in the spoiler chat or in the comments next week
d
2024-07-20 20:30:28 +0000 UTCI second that, spoiler alert...
Yasemin
2024-07-20 20:26:51 +0000 UTCYou mentioned in the video how it seemed like Rory sleeping with Dean was when people got turned off of Rory. I think this moment is just as big, if not bigger. Not only does she commit a felony, but she abandons her dreams so quickly. From season one, it was clear that Rory wanted to go to Harvard to become a journalist. The impetus for bringing Emily and Richard back in their lives--and the ensuing drama over the years--was paying for Chilton and then Yale to set her on this path. Rory's dreams have been such a driving factor of the show, and to have something so minor throw her off course is frustrating. Luke and Lorelai seem to be the only characters to reflect the audience's frustration. And I don't disagree with the thought that maybe Rory needs to rethink her career path. I don't know that Mitchum was wrong. But Rory was about to have about three months off for summer break that she could use to explore other options, and she could certainly spend a year or a semester getting the basic required classes out of the way while she figures things out. The fact that she doesn't even give herself the summer to think things through felt like a weird choice.
Jessica
2024-07-20 20:14:58 +0000 UTCshe verbaitum says "im taking a break from yale." the quitting thing means like quitting for now instead of going to school immediately
Macyn Chappell
2024-07-20 20:07:34 +0000 UTCthe thing is rory isn’t taking a break. she’s literally quitting. lorelai: “you are not quitting yale.” rory: “yes, i am.” she just really doesn’t have willpower.
d
2024-07-20 20:06:29 +0000 UTCi don’t mean to be rude at all, but try not to discuss anything about AYITL!
d
2024-07-20 20:04:52 +0000 UTCrory is definitely taking it too seriously, but in her defense shes never really faced criticism like that. she was coddled by everyone which isnt her fault, lorelai, emily and richard, and the entire town worshipped the ground rory walked on. even lorelai in this episode was blaming literally everyone but rory when she did make mistakes. and when it comes to dropping out of yale, it doesnt bother me at all. i dont think shes doing anything wrong, if shes not gonna be focused at school then dont waste your time, just take a year or so off so you can focus for your last year. it is normal for people to take breaks in college, and it wasnt right how she said it or used it as ammo, but she was right when she said lorelai hasnt been to college and she doesnt really know anyone who has, so she doesnt realize how common it is. also rory is at least taking responsibilty, she didnt say it was anyone elses fault, she just blamed herself. thats why shes dropping out- she thinks shes bad at journalism, knows she really messed up when taking the yacht, and knows shes not focused. and mitchum was definitely in the wrong, not for what he thinks but for the way he said it, like the "assistant" comment was just misogynistic and he didnt have much to base what he said off of anyways like he never read any of her writing and it was her first time in a big office so of course she wasnt the boldest. honestly the whole huntzburger family besides logan and honor are just pieces of shit, considering he just "says whatever he feels and doesnt care about anyones emotions" he definitely wouldnt have seen anything wrong with the dinner if he were there and probably wouldve been shittalking her there just like everyone else.
Macyn Chappell
2024-07-20 19:36:41 +0000 UTCThe answer to your question of why people don’t like Rory is this. Dean plus the yacht plus taking her ball and going to grandma’s equals a spoiled, entitled character.
K
2024-07-20 19:26:50 +0000 UTCLorelai’s face when she realized Richard & Emily stabbed her in the back. 😭 She was heartbroken but not surprised. Like it took a lot for her to even go there & ask for their help & they did her dirty af. 🤬 Her spontaneously proposing to Luke was well out of the blue lol but I think it weirdly makes sense because him going full dad mode over Rory quitting Yale solidified to Lorelai that this guy ALWAYS has her back no matter what. & I love that. 🫶🏽
Hope
2024-07-20 19:22:43 +0000 UTCSad but true. You would think Rory would gain motivation and confidence from her mother’s own confidence, but that didn’t happen.
Daniela
2024-07-20 19:08:17 +0000 UTCLorelai would find motivation and put 100% of her effort to prove someone wrong if they told her she couldn’t do something. Meanwhile, Rory gives up entirely when one person tells her she can’t do it.
Daniela
2024-07-20 19:07:01 +0000 UTCi just wrote pretty much this same comment in many more words lol you are much better at explaining than i am!
d
2024-07-20 19:06:07 +0000 UTCi see someone here from the logan defense squad lol, so here’s a comment from lorelai gilmore’s self proclaimed defense attorney. so many viewers throw lorelai under the bus for “coddling rory” and “not preparing her for the real world”. i just think there’s so much more to it than that. there is nothing wrong with showering your child with unconditional love. that’s something lorelai never received from richard and emily. the reason lorelai is, in the grand scheme of things, so successful comes down to her character. she has so much intrinsic motivation and her entire arc is based off of the fact that she knows what she wants and will stop at nothing to get it, even with the adversity in her life. rory does not have that kind of motivation. they are just two very different people, and, the older that rory gets, (and the more she was ingrained in richard and emily’s world), the less like lorelai she unfortunately became.
d
2024-07-20 19:04:40 +0000 UTCThis episode definitely shows how Rory and Lorelai are two different individuals. For example, if someone told Lorelai she couldn’t do something, she would put 100% of her effort to prove them wrong, meanwhile Rory one person told her she couldn’t do it, and she gives up entirely. It seems odd to me that Rory won’t look to Lorelai for motivation because of her mother’s confidence.
Daniela
2024-07-20 19:03:17 +0000 UTCRory’s choice makes perfect sense given who she’s shown to be as a person lol and not in a good way! Like other people mentioned, Rory has been overpraised and put on a pedestal her entire life. No one has ever criticized her actions or her behavior in any significant way. The only time we see anyone call her out is when Lorelai does it on the multiple occasions Rory has cheated on someone lol and every one of those times Rory couldn’t handle being told she was wrong. So, of course when a top news guy tells her she “doesn’t have it”, she folds. I agree with you Joe, the better response would have been for her to work harder and prove him wrong by being successful. But right now it seems like he was right—she doesn’t have “it” at this point because she just takes his criticism as gospel and runs away!
DaniJay
2024-07-20 19:02:22 +0000 UTCYes exactly! She was always smart and good at everything and also constantly praises for it so she never learnt how to deal with rejection
Sashwathi Sriganesh
2024-07-20 18:55:21 +0000 UTCI don't think it's as simple as calling Rory a "baby" or that she has "crocodile tears", I don't think so. It has to do with her highly sensitive character, that this one man's opinion threw her in this very moment, but as you say, let's see what happens down the line. :) Also, from the beginning of the show, Rory was never allowed to fail (ie, expectations around her success have been building and building) and I think it's refreshing she would "fail" here or maybe not make a reasonable choice at this point in time. Btw you missed some of the dialog between Lorelai and Emily and Richard at the end because you were talking :). If you have a chance to go back, I'd say it's worth rewatching. I've obviously watched the show many times by now, but you can see where each of the characters is coming from, so it's not all black and white. And that includes what Mitchum told Rory, of course.
Yasemin
2024-07-20 18:52:58 +0000 UTCAmy left the show after season 6, so it's only season 7 she hasn't written.
Yasemin
2024-07-20 18:47:25 +0000 UTCWords cannot explain how much Emily and Richard betraying Lorelai hurt me. This episode made my head HOT. I couldn’t rationalise why Rory was giving up so quick. Until I realised, Rory has never had someone talk to her like that. From the moment we met her she’s extremely coddled and loved. Everything she does is praised whether it’s a teachers, parents, grandparents, Stars Hallow community. She is well loved and everyone believes in her. Ironically this love has created someone with no tough skin. A sniff of the real world and and she bailed 💔
Tanya Freedom
2024-07-20 18:38:16 +0000 UTCIn my opinion Rory is someone who has always had a dream Ans been focused on it and has always naturally been really good at what she does, so when this big rejection came from the biggest guy in the business it completely sidelined her. And Mitchum too, he didn’t say -this what you can do better or what she could do to get better. Just that she doesn’t have “it” and he doesn’t think she’s meant for that career. For Rory I think that opinion meant everything so it completely threw her off
Sashwathi Sriganesh
2024-07-20 18:32:29 +0000 UTCYour reaction to Rory telling her mum she might not go back to Yale next year was exactly how I reacted to it the first time I watched it. 😂
Oslo
2024-07-20 18:31:47 +0000 UTCHere as a member of the Logan defense squad. This is one of the things people point to to hate Logan. And it was very clearly Rory who wanted to steal the boat. It’s obviously bad that Logan agreed but he did not corrupt her into doing it. And he had no hand in her quitting Yale (except for being related to his own dad, but even he didn’t want her to take the internship). People hate Logan because they hate who Rory is during the time she dates him but that is literally not his fault. He is mature enough to give his opinion but then let her make her own mistakes. It’s completely unrelated to him
sandrinegeller
2024-07-20 18:22:13 +0000 UTCthanks for the early upload
Nina Demery
2024-07-20 18:00:30 +0000 UTCAHH it’s here!!
Daniela
2024-07-20 17:59:02 +0000 UTCOMG THANKS JOE!!
Sashwathi Sriganesh
2024-07-20 17:56:28 +0000 UTComg????,
Merle Henkel
2024-07-20 17:53:37 +0000 UTCYes! :)
Yasemin
2024-07-20 17:50:39 +0000 UTCWhat a wonderful early surprise!!! Been waiting to see your reaction to this episode all season 😭💕
Hammie @balancedpadawan
2024-07-20 17:50:23 +0000 UTC
