Hi everyone! Wanted to get your opinion!
Added 2021-08-16 04:35:11 +0000 UTCFirstly! Tanaka really took a lot from my voice but will try and do the 10 tier zawa tomorrow! Gonna work on a bunch!
Secondly, would you all mind terrible if I swapped things to charging up front? All it would mean is that instead of it being charged on the first of every month, it would be charged on the day you sign up and then 30 days from then the charge repeats.
There are a few reasons for this, firstly to discourage reposting as the alternative to that is to turn off downloads, but because patreon is such a laggy and unstable platform I would never do that. The second is to give more an understanding of when the charges happen instead of a unified charge day. I figured it would give more of a level headed approach to the rewards based on tier and nothing else would change, all of the tier rewards are still roughly in the same place and the content would still be ideally done daily!
Wanted to get your opinions and I will only go through with this option if most of you decide you want it. (and I don't mean like 51% cause I want this to be something we either agree on or disagree on as I don't do this for money, but it is my means of sustaining things. So I want to make sure its both efficient and feels fair to all of you!) Much love and no matter what you choose please let me know! Also feel free to leave comments of your thoughts They really help and I read them all!!
EDIT2: I want to make clear, I would never resort to turning off downloads, just possibly charging up front, pat is too unstable and slow to ever be trusted for purely on site content. So please don't worry everyone!
Comments
Please stick with charging up front! I’m 163778% fine with it if it means we get to keep dl’ing! Whatever is best for you, though, Love! I’ll continue to support you either way. ❤️
Kintsugi
2021-09-13 07:01:47 +0000 UTCLol might wanna just mass download and save that one's before you can't anymore
Levi'sJuicyTitan
2021-08-29 16:05:10 +0000 UTCSaid she was a while back but never said anything about it again.. I don't feel like she gonna do it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Levi'sJuicyTitan
2021-08-29 16:00:59 +0000 UTCalso, as long as its not charged upfront, you can get all the content up to the 100 tier for one dollar 💵 (minus joining the live call in the discord which requires proof of purchase) just by switching tiers during the month before the 1st hits. I know its not about the money but there's people who do this :/ I know this cause on the first 100 tier audio, which was daichi, no one was charged 100 it was a total freebie lol I was charged for the next two, kirishima and gojo cause I stayed on the tier, but then had to leave so I'm on the 25 since then.
Faye
2021-08-21 16:39:47 +0000 UTCPersonally, I have no data (internet aside from places with wifi) so for me, the downloads are a way to listen to things offline. Also, paying the day you subbed on each month will not only be a way of ensuring less reposting, but additionally make it more fair for people who end up subbing at the end of one month and then immediately paying again at the beginning of the next month. It will encourage more loyalty imo.
2021-08-20 16:04:55 +0000 UTCI am probably one of the only people who wants this but Shigaraki Audio? Plz!!
DAHLIA_PARK
2021-08-20 00:18:52 +0000 UTCPlease deku audio
KiwiChan
2021-08-19 01:48:12 +0000 UTCI think it's best to put it on the day you subscribed... because last time I subscribed to another person on the 25, I paid, and I had to pay yet again 5 days later for another month
2021-08-19 01:42:12 +0000 UTCi wish there was a way you can choose when you can download the audios like 6 month supporter type thing to at least discourage the instant downloading for reposters.
Itzdakitkatlife
2021-08-18 23:33:09 +0000 UTCYeah this is how I was charged on both of my accounts so I'm not really sure what everyone else experienced.
Nina
2021-08-18 07:26:51 +0000 UTCWouldnt the second option be a little more hectic for sin tier admin? Just thinking, Ik it doesn’t effect *tthaatt* many compared to the whole but would you check 100tier receipts the night of/before the call to get access or something similar?
Nine
2021-08-18 06:43:28 +0000 UTCI just wanted to ask if there's still a possibly of a nanami kento audio sorry if you've said something about this before no rush or anything sorry ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
2021-08-18 05:23:04 +0000 UTCupfront fam personally, no preference but bc reposting and financial stuff, def. upfront imo
Vivid Nectarine ♪
2021-08-18 02:28:44 +0000 UTCIs there a way to charge up front and then it renews automatically on the first? I get paid bi-weekly and schedule my bills to come out either on or around the 1st or the 15th.
Cherie
2021-08-17 23:09:25 +0000 UTCI have no preference
Candice Kershaw
2021-08-17 20:37:59 +0000 UTCI much prefer the first tbh, and it especially helps when you get paid biweekly so it often comes on the first ;3;
2021-08-17 16:45:11 +0000 UTCIn my experience, charge up front still processes on the 1st - it just processes that FIRST payment immediately instead of giving a free month.
Wisp of Thought
2021-08-17 16:02:44 +0000 UTCI'm good with either option to be honest. Will need to look into what day I actually subscribed but as long as you are healthy and as happy as you can be cece, I am fine. Also don't wanna lose the download option cause Patreon doesn't offer repeat as far as I know and playing those sleep aids on repeat is phenomenal
Icedragonlady
2021-08-17 12:12:59 +0000 UTCI'd really prefer to keep it on the first tbh, we only get the one assistance check per month and if our bill was in the middle of the month we'd probably miss it 😅 It's just much easier with my limited budget personally to be able to keep everything on one day.
Muse Songbird
2021-08-17 10:07:24 +0000 UTCAlso, I have creators who charge upfront and the charges on the payment method all pretty much come in on the first day anyway. maybe on the second day or a day earlier depending on their timezone. This will only really affect the first payment since you'll be charged right away for that month. but all succeeding payments remain on the first day of the month.
soonjung
2021-08-17 09:02:54 +0000 UTCi totally agree, this has been my thoughts with all patreon subscriptions
gloomer
2021-08-17 07:11:02 +0000 UTCI honestly don't mind it either way
Lauren Brick
2021-08-17 06:43:07 +0000 UTCCece whatever you decide to do could you make sure to inform us before change anything? I have reminders saved for my patreon and if you decide to change up the charge dates I’d like to change my reminds as well, I like the first month charge and how everything is but at the end of the day it’s all up to YOU❤️😚
Killuasta
2021-08-17 05:29:39 +0000 UTCThe second one makes more sense cuz if you subscribe on the 29th you'll be double charged
Destiny 💕
2021-08-17 05:15:40 +0000 UTCI dont really care if it changes or not I just would appreciate a heads up if it does change.
Angela Tinsley
2021-08-17 04:48:55 +0000 UTCjust to give my 2 cents, personally it doesn't matter. if people feel strongly either way, I won't care if you change it to help them
kawalie
2021-08-17 04:07:58 +0000 UTCAs a former person who used to listen to your audios on SoundCloud because I wasn't making enough money to afford patreon yet (luckily that's changed, just got a $2 raise recently, baby!), I'm so glad that I subscribed to you. This community is so so much better than SoundCloud, which is very toxic and unsupportive. We love you Cece, Hope you have a good day!
Miss. KZ
2021-08-17 03:10:12 +0000 UTCLogic
切島の小石
2021-08-17 01:43:33 +0000 UTCAh I see, :0
Marcela Aquino
2021-08-17 01:35:23 +0000 UTCI voted for the day you subscribe, but I think whatever makes it easier for you is best.
Lia
2021-08-17 00:23:49 +0000 UTCWhat ever makes it easy for you
Lizadowntown
2021-08-17 00:14:04 +0000 UTCI voted for the day of sign up mostly because the 1st is hard and sometimes I miss payments by a week because EVERYTHING comes out on the first and the higher up bills sometimes miss out cause they take what's avalible. So to move it would give me more of a chance to not miss a payment. I have about 4 bills due on the 1st and then like 4 patreon subs sooo to lessen that some and then I can stagger payments evenly some.
J'dee
2021-08-17 00:06:23 +0000 UTCYou should charge upfront to prevent people from reposting your Patreon content.
Veemo
2021-08-16 23:43:21 +0000 UTCFinancially, 1st of the month works for me...however I know at the end of the day of you're going to do what's best for you. ♡
2021-08-16 21:28:59 +0000 UTCYou should always charge up front!! I have a Patreon and sometimes you get a few people who join to steal content and then leave! Love you Cece!! :) 💚
midori misuni
2021-08-16 21:07:17 +0000 UTCI wasnt sure if that was a thing that was possible. If so. Im all for the change. Do it. Do t vote it. Do it.
Quiet Loyalty
2021-08-16 20:55:01 +0000 UTCI also just found that on the patreon support page, that upfront payment would mean that you pay as soon as you join the patreon AND you would pay again on the 1st of every month. For example, if you made a pledge on the 25th of February you would then pay again on the 1st of March. However, this does not affect current patreons and we would just continue to pay on the 1st of every month. With what Cece said, I'm not sure if you can change it, but I just thought knowing this may help soothe people.
𝓒ǂ๑𓍼ᯅ𓂅﹅_𝓝𓂅
2021-08-16 20:31:51 +0000 UTCIf that is what needs to happen for you to get paid for your hard work, I am all for it. You deserve that and so much more!
Mel
2021-08-16 18:42:17 +0000 UTCOkay I’m not an expert but the things people are complaining about are a none issue. I’ve had subs to upfront and none upfront patreons and they always charge on the first of the month. The difference is you’re charged when you first subscribe. If you subscribe the 14 of august you’re charged and then charged again on the 1st of september for the month of sept. Which is completely fair because your first charge grants you access to all previous posts regardless of whether or not you “missed out on 14 days”. Cece please do what you feel is best. I know you want to do right by your patrons but this is truly a non-issue and should not be up to us anyway.
k
2021-08-16 18:38:59 +0000 UTCIt’s be easier to stay on the first for me honestly since that’s when the rest of the patreon I’m supporting charge. But will this mean that there won’t be an option to download the audio? But at the end of the day it’s up to you CECE
Demongal101
2021-08-16 18:33:12 +0000 UTCI'm fine with either but I do have some questions on how things would work. Like if I change my tier to the Sin tier would I be able to immediately join the calls that are offered with that tier since I have paid for it upfront? Just wanna see how things would work out on that front 😅. But please do what you feel is best for you, Cece!
Loki
2021-08-16 16:16:31 +0000 UTCI totally agree with this comment!
Meli VonCherry
2021-08-16 14:38:50 +0000 UTCI don't mind, I think this is a thing you must decide c: because is your dear content and you have the right to want to protected from people reposting your audios. Do what is better for your mental health!! I do support any decisions you take! :3
Meli VonCherry
2021-08-16 14:31:38 +0000 UTCThe only reason I say the 1st (for those who don't understand why it matters to some people) is because that's what every patreon I am following currently and have ever followed does. And because of that, I have a reminder on my phone at the end of the month to review subscriptions before charges go through because sometimes I need to change tiers or unsubscribe for a bit from one or several of my patreons. Now I'm not gonna leave if Cece decides to do this. Ultimstely if it's what's best for her I support it and will just have to set a second reminder which isn't a big deal. But if the poll is purely which we *prefer* - that's why I'd say 1st of the month.
nyxx
2021-08-16 14:07:06 +0000 UTCIf I can make life easier for you then I don’t see why changing would be bad I’m all on board
2021-08-16 13:59:08 +0000 UTCJust do which ever that’s best for you🥰 As long as I’m paying for the content, either is fine😊
2021-08-16 13:49:00 +0000 UTCIf it can stop the reposters, definitely. I'm down for whatever you want and feel most comfortable with. <3
Yep Yep
2021-08-16 13:27:11 +0000 UTCOMG AIZAWA YES YES YES
2021-08-16 13:24:12 +0000 UTCif people want to be charged on the 1st, nothing will change for them? so I dont see why cece can't do what is best for her and change it to be charged upfront, regardless of the vote results. we're all adults who can manage our own finances, and like I said if being charged on the 1st works for your financial situation then nothing is going to change for you anyway, am I wrong ?
Faye
2021-08-16 13:09:50 +0000 UTCWhatever makes better sense for you I don’t mind it. You are very kind and amazing to your subscribers and I don’t want to see you taken advantage of. Do what you think is best.😘
MJ Barber
2021-08-16 13:05:29 +0000 UTCI'm fine with either way.
Melissa
2021-08-16 12:57:13 +0000 UTCI much prefer the 1st of the month because I know it’s coming out. I like all of my bills payed at the same time personally. That being said I’m not against the other way- I just have a preference.
2021-08-16 12:52:09 +0000 UTCSo I'm just trying to make sure I understand correctly and so I did a search back through my emails and it looks like I first signed up 8/31 around 10:30pm est last year and got charged the next day. If we move to sign-up day charges then I would get charged on the last day of every month? Thats not so bad, not really a difference for me.
Sleepy all the time like aizawa
2021-08-16 12:25:09 +0000 UTCAs it's a decision that would help the business in general and prevent reposters to a degree, I agree 100% in changing the payment to be up front. I do believe you should make the decision Cece, specially because the solution for the people who prefer to be billed on the first is a simple one, just unsubscribe and subscribe again on the day you prefer to be charged. Considering the benefits it would bring to your patreon, I don't think this is too much of an inconvenience for the patrons, definitely not enough to stop you changing it. Also, for new patrons, it prevents double billing incidents when people subscribe by the end of a month. EDIT: And also! You give us so much content for super accessible prices while still keeping the download option!! You're more than in the right of doing what's best for you, it's not a harmful change if you're keeping up your quality ^^
mika036
2021-08-16 12:12:26 +0000 UTCCece do whatever works best for you. Just please keep the downloads 😂😭 my internet is way too unstable I depend on downloads lmao
lettyloo
2021-08-16 11:50:20 +0000 UTCI know there are several patreons that I support that will charge me regardless of when I the month it is once I pledge/sign up, and then again on the first of each month (which is why I wait till the first of each month to sign up). Wouldn't that be possible with cece?
2021-08-16 11:42:15 +0000 UTCBeing charged up front is fine with me in the end it's your decision do whatever you feel is best
Ariesrose
2021-08-16 11:38:13 +0000 UTCSame! I literally just waited till the first of the month whenever I wanna support another patreon
2021-08-16 11:36:54 +0000 UTCNope it never did that I've changed my tier before.
切島の小石
2021-08-16 11:25:50 +0000 UTCLet the church say amen!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾❤❤
Dee
2021-08-16 11:12:23 +0000 UTCI'd be fine being charged on the date I originally signed up. I'm good a budgeting and saving my money so it doesn't matter.
Dee
2021-08-16 11:09:56 +0000 UTCDo you whatever you gotta do to make your business make sense 🥰
Risqué_Schadenfreude
2021-08-16 11:01:36 +0000 UTCI was going to say this as well. I know a few people who have done this with other creators. They get the content for the month, then sign up under another email to get it free again after a few months. They should be charged from the first day. In Patreon, if you sign up the last few days you don't get charged until the new month.
Dark Huntress
2021-08-16 10:45:56 +0000 UTCYes, change it!! Charge up front
Kay OMO-NOMA
2021-08-16 10:33:33 +0000 UTCPeople will take advantage of get the downloads and switch back so they don't get charged the high price at the first so I think it is a good idea. Also make it harder for a reposter🤗 CECE...just as a provision if (suggesion) Option 1 if it stays the same if anyone should change their tier at anytime should be charged immediately (and have a warning or disclaimer beforehand to check the box before agree to those terms) so there is "NO THEY CHARGED ME TWICE BULL" or don't have the download option till the renewal period then they can download Edit: as I'm watching this the vote gap has been inbetween 130 to 150 votes
切島の小石
2021-08-16 09:35:47 +0000 UTCit would be so helpful for it to be the day you signed up each month, especially for ppl like me who get payed a specific day each month and that’s when I make my payments it makes everything so much easier and less stressful, I hate how Patreon handles the payments ://
2021-08-16 09:29:11 +0000 UTCI was actually taken aback with this the first time I payed on Patreon. I think I had signed up the 28th and I had to pay again the 1rst or 2nd. I was confused but now it's alright. Choose what's best for you Cece! 😌
the_URBAN_goose
2021-08-16 09:26:24 +0000 UTCThat would awesome, it’s great for everyone who subbed near the end of the month
AshleyCakeGamin
2021-08-16 09:21:25 +0000 UTCMe too, I always get paid at the end of the month so I know my Patreon bill comes out on the first and I always have the money for it as I’m in the £25 tier
Sally
2021-08-16 09:14:34 +0000 UTCI have more than one Patreon subscription and it would be not beneficial for me to have 2 Patreon bills. It charges me when I get paid and I like that.
Jikio
2021-08-16 08:58:59 +0000 UTCI would actually prefer being charged 30 days after because then if I want to subscribe I don’t have to wait until the 1st of the month
Tyler
2021-08-16 08:24:58 +0000 UTCI'm fine with either but I want to offer a suggestion for those who get paid monthly if it is changed to be upfront payment. You may want to unsubscribe for a month or so and then we subscribe at the beginning of the month that way you would still be charged at the beginning of the month because that's when you signed up again
Ashley
2021-08-16 08:03:28 +0000 UTCI think you should do how you want. This is your patreon and if you would like to charge upfront, then you should do it. There's nothing wrong with that. Also if someone would like to be charged on the first for any reason, they could simply unsubscribe and resubscribe again on the first, if this is that important for them. Nothing would change. I couldn't care less when I get charged, I put the 25$ for you to the side anyway and it doesn't affect me when exactly this money is charged. I don't really know if this change would stop reposter tbh. But regardless, if you feel more comfortable charging upfront, you should do it. You already give us your high quality content for cheap compared to other content creators and even give us the option to download it. The download option is also very important to me, let alone for sleep aids that I listen to with a sleep timer on my music player and I also have my phone on flight mode during night. Also turning off downloads probably also wouldn't help anyway, since it is still possible to record audio on PC. It would make it harder, but not impossible. I'm glad that you won't turn off the download option. Thank you, Cece. Also, don't forget to take care of yourself and give your voice a break. 💕
AngryFluffy
2021-08-16 08:01:24 +0000 UTCI will respect and support your business decisions. I know you carefully think things through and really do try to be as fair as possible. I admire that and I also know it’s impossible to please everyone. I think most people who are your fans like me know how deeply you care and because of that I support your choices in how you want things to run.
2021-08-16 07:57:07 +0000 UTCi voted for the second option because I dont mind and you have been very generous to charge with option you have now. It's like giving people a trial period and that was nice of you to do. but yes, patreon is so glitchy that people get unsubscribed routinely when the first day of the months rolls. it tells you that theres a problem with your card or form of payment when you've been using the same thing since the beginning and theres no problem with it.
soonjung
2021-08-16 07:51:12 +0000 UTCit just means that you will be charged right away upon pledging. Right now you don't. It's like if a new person subscribes on the 5th day of the month they'll get charged on the 1st day of the next month. With the upfront payment you just get charged as soon as you sign up.
soonjung
2021-08-16 07:48:46 +0000 UTCI don’t mind either✨
Lovely Blue
2021-08-16 07:44:15 +0000 UTCSorry could someone explain what paying upfront is? I'm not sure I understand - does patreon not charge when you start the pledge anyway?
Ana
2021-08-16 07:37:14 +0000 UTCI really don’t mind either way since I usually don’t pay till the third since thats when I get paid. But I’m really fine with whatever you go with. Kinda sick of seeing your work on other peoples channels and sometimes with out even proper credit smh. Keep up the good work and don’t forget to take care of you health. 🥰
Shay Jeter
2021-08-16 07:35:08 +0000 UTCTbh. This won’t stop that. People will still post it. For those who can’t get it aka minors… the same thing happens with manga. They pay for them and still post it for free for others. Doesn’t change anything only difference is her getting paid up front. Reposting will still occur. It’s a lose lose. And for me an apple user I can’t save to my device, so I’m triple screwed.
ArtByArtemise
2021-08-16 07:10:37 +0000 UTCSo it isn't just me! It either tanks or repeats the last bunch of audios for me! I miss being able to go through each page individually. Patreon sucks for getting rid of that feature. Edit: just as I posted this patron asked me for feedback.
Binku_Muja
2021-08-16 07:09:16 +0000 UTCThen unsubscribe and resubscribe on that day. Its honestly not that complicated. 😕
Binku_Muja
2021-08-16 07:07:04 +0000 UTCYes please please please! Change it to be renewed on the day you start subscribing! Makes me so upset seeing your audios being reposted and then the comments, I never understand why people hate watch/listen to things, just why find something else to do with your time than being hateful and spreading misinformation, this defamation on you infuriates me to no end. So yes please change it, if these people still gonna try to repost at least make them for it! Also might want to inform those that prefer being charged the first of the month that they can unsub at the end of the month and then resub at the start on the month.
2021-08-16 07:05:14 +0000 UTCWill you do also that Genshin Xiao audio? 🥺🥺🥺 I really want one 🥺 he's such adorable character.
AValentiny
2021-08-16 07:03:27 +0000 UTCJust go for the second option if its what you feel is going to deal with content thieves. But don't get rid of the download option because patreon sucks for being a buggy mess. But whats to stop them from doing what they're already doing if you change it to this? The date will be displayed on their pledge page. Sure some may forget but not all will. I would also say that its time to start reporting stolen content on youtube or wherever else they're posting from. Its one thing to critique the content, but uploading it wholesale? Not acceptable.
Binku_Muja
2021-08-16 07:02:49 +0000 UTCY’all plz choose the second one. If not that’s okay. But with the second one people won’t be able to repost her stuff. They would have to pay her first.
❤️KKBunny❤️
2021-08-16 06:48:26 +0000 UTCEither way is fine, but please don’t get rid of the download option, my internet is janky and with that on top of janky Patreon it makes it such a pain to listen (especially during the spicy scenes lol). I really don’t like that people repost your work that you work so hard on (I’m an artist that also unfortunately know of this experience), but in a weird silver lining/bright side kind of way I found out about your content from someone reposting one of your 25 tier audios on YouTube and immediately ran to your YouTube account. Now I’m subscribed to your $25 tier and plan on staying here 💖. Also yes, I reported the video lol 😅
LoveySkulls
2021-08-16 06:36:39 +0000 UTCI want things to be more steady and charged on the first of every month. Because I usually get paid on the last few days in every month so…🥺
FoxyCat
2021-08-16 06:31:40 +0000 UTCI dont mind either way! Doesnt bother me which way
NuggetQueen
2021-08-16 06:17:47 +0000 UTCmake sure to give your voice a rest love 💗 we’re not going anywhere so there’s nothing to worry about ok 🥰 and thank you for letting us know what’s going on and sharing your thoughts, i know you care about us so thank you for putting us first 🥺🥰 the choice is really yours since you’re the creator, but whatever the choice ends up being, ill support it, i love you queen 🥰❤️
nswazz
2021-08-16 06:08:53 +0000 UTCI feel like the second option is a good one. Seeing as a lot of people will take advantage of you it will help make it harder for anyone to do that. Plus I’m seeing a lot of people complain about it. If you wanna be charged on the 1st. Pay upfront on the 1st. It can’t be that hard to remember or have the finances to do it. Some people have different charge days. And I think it’s fair that they be charged when they sub and continue that. I usually start my subscriptions on the 1st or beginning of the month to make things cleaner because I also have payments that happen at the start of the month. Plus also we can enjoy everything from you directly and it will also keep trolls and psycho’s from sabotaging this safe space. In the end it’s all up to you and what you’ll find beneficial for us and yourself.
2021-08-16 06:08:42 +0000 UTCIt’s easy on the first cause I get paid right before that and I live for the comfort audios to much to go without aha however if it is easier on you to charge the same day we have signed up then I totally respect and support that choice
2021-08-16 06:03:58 +0000 UTCI agree with this because if you can’t pay upfront, then you can wait til you have the money to pay. Money is money. Either way the person will be charged. And if they have to cancel they don’t have to pay the next month. We should redo the poll. Having multiple votings should make a good assumption on what the best option
2021-08-16 06:03:29 +0000 UTCCece just a suggestion, I would also recommend making another poll as well, cause I'm seeing a lot of comments with people saying they are unable to pay until the first of the month, and I'm not sure if it's known that you can unsubscribe and resubscribe on the 1st of the month. Addressing this may help understand, with this as an option, would they be okay with the second option because I find that out of both options the second may be better for you.
𝓒ǂ๑𓍼ᯅ𓂅﹅_𝓝𓂅
2021-08-16 05:52:31 +0000 UTCIn the end I feel its your choice, and for me personally, having a charge on the first of every month is a very good thing for my organization- remembering the day a lot essier!
SleepyQuildren
2021-08-16 05:51:46 +0000 UTCI think the upfront make the most sense and is the safest option, as some people are likely to join and then duck out before they are charged. Some who need the first of the month can always make that their upfront day, as well! In the end though, whichever works best ffor you and that you are happy with is what's best! Remember to stay hydrated!!
Pet Wolf (✧ω✧)
2021-08-16 05:45:50 +0000 UTCEither way is fine to me xx
MerC
2021-08-16 05:42:34 +0000 UTCEither way is completely fine for me! But as a person who has both a messy financial situation and seen how people reposts your content elsewhere, changing it to upfront payment is the best actionto take. I also heard from a friend of mine who also follows you as well that there are people bold enough to monetize your content or ask for donations so they can pay the tier fee each month to download and repost, which really disgust me. Just a few months ago there was a really nasty comment in one of those channels that was accusing you again, probably thinking that it was your channel (probably a parent of a minor), and it was very difficult to explain that the Google age restriction can be easily bypassed by changing age on the account and access age restricted content on YouTube... But yeah... in my opinion, the upfront charge is the best action to take. (I wish I had enough IT knowledge to hack those reposting accounts and delete them...)
Vivian
2021-08-16 05:40:16 +0000 UTChonestly it’s what you feel is most comfortable to you, I’ve seen your audios being posted on different platforms too and thought about dropping Patreon because of it but it wasn’t right and plus these are better than the repost. I do feel as though you should charge first that way it’s fair to the ones paying but again its my opinion and it’s up to you and what you feel is right.
TicciWolf
2021-08-16 05:37:22 +0000 UTCBoth options have disadvantages for everyone so it's best that you decide what you think is better, we will support you anyways :( 🥺
Kitcat
2021-08-16 05:36:31 +0000 UTCYou can see them via the website. Just not the app.
Nina
2021-08-16 05:31:34 +0000 UTCI dont care as long as people are not getting free content we are paying for. The amount of times I've seen $100 tier content being re-posted somewhere, when I being a decent human being paid for it. Honestly was the reason why I dropped the $100 tier because it wasn't worth paying that much for something that was being posted on sound cloud after. If it affects people's bills then they can re-subscribe on the first of the month.
SonjaBlade
2021-08-16 05:30:09 +0000 UTCWhatever is easier for you I do not mind either way. Also please rest if you need to 🥺💕
♡Aiko♡
2021-08-16 05:27:12 +0000 UTCNo worries, both options work 👍🏼 Though honestly, I can’t remember when I first subscribed so that would be fun to see 😋 Either way, go with what you think is best as the sole proprietor of your platform and content, especially if it’s to avoid trouble and issues down the road. And agreed, please take a day or two to rest your voice! Thank you again!!
pomecello
2021-08-16 05:26:52 +0000 UTCI'm happy with whatever makes it easier for you!!!
Oyaoyaoya
2021-08-16 05:24:07 +0000 UTCI'm just here praying for the safe rejuvenation of your voice (and I'm completely neutral to the change). I just want to know if Xiao is somewhere on the Horizon or is Xiao out since we have Tanaka. Not pressuring, and Im completely grateful for all the amazing audios you do for us. I'm just curious
CiCiCiferPol
2021-08-16 05:23:35 +0000 UTCDo what you feel is right when it comes to reposting. IMO, the most important thing is making reposting more difficult. Whatever you feel you need to do to prevent it is best. I’ve seen way too many minors on reposts of your content (totally not your fault, but reposters don’t age restrict anything), and I’ve seen way too many people hate-watching and commenting nasty things about you and your content. A lot of the people hate-watching are also minors (what is it with kids and injecting themselves into 18+ spaces, and complaining that 18+ content makes them uncomfortable?? It’s not made for you! Go away!)
MomeRath
2021-08-16 05:23:14 +0000 UTCI've seen your audios reposted to a few other places so I know people stealing them really is a problem. For me it wouldn't make too much of a difference, but I'm on a lower tier as it is. On a separate note, I do wish there was a way to see what I'm missing in other tiers. I've thought a few times about moving up a tier but I wish I could see how many posts or even what the titles are on them first. I thought I had seen it in other Patreon pages, but I don't see that here.
Kennie M
2021-08-16 05:23:12 +0000 UTCI am happy with the first of every month. I also hope you rest good!! Your health is more important Cece!! Love the things you do for us but you take care of yourself too okay?
IceWolf92 (Olive)
2021-08-16 05:21:17 +0000 UTCI know its easier for me to have only one patreon charge instead of multiple since all of the expenses for the apartment i share with my roommate comes out of my account
Yasu Malwyn
2021-08-16 05:17:00 +0000 UTCUm Im fine with changing it to 30 days from subscribe date, thats how most services operate anyway. Honestly its nice of you to ask but you really should just announce the change. It is Your patreon and it should be how You want it. You are the artist, it is Your work being consumed. Does Netflix ask when people pay? Chewy? Xbox? No, no, nope. If people arent willing to go along with the terms you set then they dont deserve to consume the content. Figuring out their finances is their problem not yours. Everyone here should be an adult and able to figure their stuff out. It makes me sad (and a bit disgusted) to hear there are people who subscribe and then unsuscribe before paying. That sucks. Honestly do whats best for you. Take care, get some rest, hydrate, and do something to make yourself happy, cuz you make lots of others happy all the time. Best wishes.
Cheryl Wilson
2021-08-16 05:16:04 +0000 UTCIf Tanaka took a lot out of you don't push yourself if you need a bit to rest your voice take all the time you need
Seth
2021-08-16 05:16:00 +0000 UTCChanging it to up-front would completely throw off my bills, and I'd hate to have to unsubscribe ☹
2021-08-16 05:15:12 +0000 UTCI like the idea of a charge upfront to discourage reposting. I'd prefer to keep it on the 1st because I budget for it, but I could unsubscribe and resubscribe on the 1st. It's up to you to be honest.
Blue Flame
2021-08-16 05:14:34 +0000 UTCThis
Booplesnoot Booper
2021-08-16 05:12:19 +0000 UTCI joined May 8th 2020 so me being charged on the 8th would probably throw my bank account in a loop as it’s used to seeing charges on the first, but I have never had problems with my subscription charges so it’s whatever anyway. 🤷🏼♀️
Tabitha Guss
2021-08-16 05:09:45 +0000 UTCWait I thought that upfront charging just charged new members immediately but would shift them to the first of the month after that? Unless I’m misunderstanding the entire message!
2021-08-16 05:09:23 +0000 UTCChanging it to that would be nice. I switch tiers sometimes, and it would be great if I didn't have to wait until the 1st of the month to do so. I can just add the new date to my calendar. Glad to hear the downloads are in no jeopardy!
VenaBlessédRose
2021-08-16 05:08:35 +0000 UTCThe first day is fine for me cause I can keep my bills in order.
Cattbird
2021-08-16 05:07:39 +0000 UTCHonestly I'm good with either one 😊 But I can see where changing it to upfront would help with reposting. Some people are still being assholes and reposting your content on other social media 😩
Kuro-Hime
2021-08-16 05:07:26 +0000 UTCUp to you hun your the creator at the end of the day lol. I mean even it's not like they charge you extra if your payment doesn't go through. So if your subscription gets stopped for a couple of days till pay day it's not the end of the world. I say it cause it's happened to me.
Ashby Alfaro
2021-08-16 05:06:55 +0000 UTCI honestly dont mind, but the first of every month was easy for me to remember since I'm also subscribed to other artists.
2021-08-16 05:06:47 +0000 UTCI don't care either way as the payments are considered buy I would love to be able to still download your sounds cuz of how laggy this platform is
Biscuit Liming
2021-08-16 05:06:35 +0000 UTCI personally would rather have it stay at the beginning of the month. Things are very tight for me money-wise, and the first of the month is usually when I know for a fact that I’ll have the money to pay rather than at another time where I’m not sure if I’ll actually have it. However if it were to change, I’m sure I’d be able to adapt.
Jilly
2021-08-16 05:05:45 +0000 UTCBeing charged up front makes sense but im not sure how that would work out on discord teir verification every month
Roselover25225
2021-08-16 05:04:45 +0000 UTCIt’s ok, guys, Cece said she wouldn’t take away the download feature. We’re good 👍🏼
Little Feather🪶
2021-08-16 05:04:24 +0000 UTCI feel like keeping the first of the month but do what's best to sustain yourself. If keeping the same charge date versus a unified charge date is better then go for that option. I'd like to keep the downloads option tho please.
Kurama'sWife
2021-08-16 05:03:27 +0000 UTCi like it the way it is bc i pay all of my bills on the first, it helps keep my budgeting in order
Aizawafucker
2021-08-16 05:03:06 +0000 UTCThis ^^ I was never looking for Cece to begin with but found out about her through SoundCloud after having fallen asleep to My Neighbor Totoro music. But it’s really incredible how Cece can post today and then 2-3 days from now it’s up on SC for anyone to hear and for anyone to criticize (especially those who are stuck on the “scandal” and don’t know the whole story but toss misinfo around as though it’s their duty) and it’s bullshit to me. If I did what Cece does, I’d absolutely want to protect my content the best to my ability. Not saying she can’t or won’t or isn’t, the choice to do so is hers alone to make. But I personally would.
Little Feather🪶
2021-08-16 05:01:53 +0000 UTCYupp ive reread this like 5 times and I can conclude that. You should do what’s best for you. I’m fine with whatever you do. But please keep the downloads 🥺.
❤️KKBunny❤️
2021-08-16 05:00:21 +0000 UTCId be fine with either. I honestly forget about it being a charge so i am fine with either.
Elayne Schroeder
2021-08-16 04:59:56 +0000 UTCI prefer the first of the month since that's when all my other Patreon stuff comes out but no big stress if it changes 😁 I can always unsubscribe and resubscribe to change the date to keep it in line. I do appreciate being able to download the audios though since I don't always have the most reliable internet
Ren
2021-08-16 04:59:29 +0000 UTCbeing charged on the day you sign up makes sense for a few reasons. 1. some people don’t always get paid the first 2. a lot of people sign up then unsubscribe before the charge date which sucks for creators 3. people can still pay on the first if they prefer, just unsubscribe then resubscribe to keep the 1st the date for you (at least I think that’d work) I really don’t see a downside to being charged upfront.
Kate
2021-08-16 04:58:39 +0000 UTCI personally prefer it as is since on my own financial schedule, everything i absolutely need, is paid on the 1st. I also have no idea when i subscribed. As a random question, if the changed scheduel is applied n you upgraded, your payment charge would be the new date of your applied upgrade, correct? At any rate, if the scheduel gets changed , this is hypothetically, for September, can i unsubscribe on August 30th n subscribe on the first, to just reset with the new plan, if thats voted on? I can do that, Im just unsure of how generally, Patreon would apply that. If that route is possible, Id probably do that if, with the new schedule, it can discourage people from taking audios n reposting them on other platforms without your permission. Either way im for keeping as is or unsubscribing n resubbing on the 1st so that things stay the same on my end.
Quiet Loyalty
2021-08-16 04:57:34 +0000 UTCNo, hon, Cece said she wouldn’t do that. It’s ok.
Little Feather🪶
2021-08-16 04:53:57 +0000 UTCI actually prefer being charged on the 1st as that's when most of my debits happen. As for downloading, please keep it. My wifi can be quite laggy and I sometimes enjoy listening to the audios in my car where no wifi is available.
Baby_Shark90
2021-08-16 04:52:35 +0000 UTCI personally like the second option. Not just because I get paid on the 2nd of every month and it would help that one day discrepancy, but because I see what you mean about reposting. That’s actually how I found out about you in the first place, through SoundCloud. And no, not just your YouTube content, but your paid Patreon content. I’m 25 tier as it is and I found 3 100 tier audios of yours on SoundCloud so I can understand if that can be upsetting because I would be. Not only that, you can’t filter who hears your content since anyone can be on SC.
Little Feather🪶
2021-08-16 04:52:34 +0000 UTCHey CeCe!! I don't really have a preference regarding the timing of the charges but I did want to express a warning in terms of replying to hate comments. Responding to the trolls/haters will only fuel them, and I hate to say, but if people don't want to listen and accept the truth, no matter what evidence is presented against their belief, they simply WON'T listen. It's much much healthier I think to ignore the hate. If they don't want to believe the truth right in front of their eyes then that's their problem, it shouldn't be yours. I understand you want to clear things up for the people who don't know the full story, but again I hate to say it but as someone who deals with people that just don't listen on the daily, it's really a waste of time to respond. If people want the truth, they'll seek it out for themselves. Don't let the hate/negativity consume you! Please stay safe and be careful! :)
ss_Emily_da
2021-08-16 04:51:38 +0000 UTCI think upfront is good, I always struggled when I would join the last week of the month pay full price and then be charged again on the 1st... But how would that impact those who have been members for a while now? Cause for those that have been here 30 days from our last payment date is still going to be the 1st?
lexilou989
2021-08-16 04:51:27 +0000 UTCUltimately I think it comes down to how people are paid. For me, I pay all my bills and other things on the 1st or towards the beginning of the month. So that’s how I keep track of my expenses. However, it’s not that big of a deal and I’m happy with whatever works best for everyone 😊 Also, please keep the download!!! I have bad service and it helps so so so so much! 🙏🏾
tasheee
2021-08-16 04:51:03 +0000 UTCplease dont take away the option for downloading💔💔
diana
2021-08-16 04:51:02 +0000 UTCI don't mind changing the date at all and I think it's really wise for creators to make this change as soon as they begin to avoid problems with fake supporters. 100% approve of the change. My only question is how that would work for current supporters as far as the first charge after the switch. Will the charge date change for next month and we ride this one out until then or would we be getting the next charge immediately and end up paying twice in one month? I really think it's something that needs to be done to protect your efforts. You give us so much content and put so much work into these audios. It is entirely unfair to you for people to manipulate the system and disrespect your hard work. Not to mention your real supporters who pay every month, interact with you, and would lose out on things because of a few bad apples. Make the change for the sake of protecting your content and the collective experience!
Persephone Powers
2021-08-16 04:50:56 +0000 UTCCan we get 3 month, 6 month and annual subscriptions added as options please?
Nina
2021-08-16 04:50:27 +0000 UTCIdk why this made me laugh a lot 😆😆
❤️KKBunny❤️
2021-08-16 04:50:09 +0000 UTCWhichever one works best for you is fine with me 😊.
Livi
2021-08-16 04:49:58 +0000 UTCHonestly, either way is fine. If you thinks it’ll be easier to deal with payment upfront I’m all for it!
2021-08-16 04:49:40 +0000 UTCDownloading for me is a huge plus I'd really appreciate if that's not taken from us 🥺
Gone
2021-08-16 04:49:10 +0000 UTCi don’t mind either way :) just as long as i can still download cuz patreon hella laggy :>
b
2021-08-16 04:48:56 +0000 UTCI believe you should charge upfront many charge upfront for the same reason of illegal uploads and copyriggt issues. I love that we can download especially bc my internet tends to just go down and is has difficulty in connecting so downloads are a personal life saver. But of course do whatever is best for you :D
Akirisimp
2021-08-16 04:48:54 +0000 UTCDo what is best for you. I personally like a set payment date. Since it's the same for when bills need to be paid, but this is a serotonin expense ^_^
GrimmInDarkness
2021-08-16 04:48:46 +0000 UTCI never get paid on the first so for like 3 weeks I miss out on content until I can sign up again 😩
GegeMaree
2021-08-16 04:47:09 +0000 UTCI cant afford it if it's not at the first of the month😭
2021-08-16 04:46:37 +0000 UTCCece, pls let me download still, I beg you. My wifi always sucks and the only way I can listen to my comfort audios during a panic attack is with downloading so plss😭🙏
2021-08-16 04:46:00 +0000 UTCFor the payments, I like it the way it is, but either way, I’ll be happy as long as it makes things easier for you and Patreon itself. I’m always happy with the easiest option so they’re so stressed for anyone 😊
❤︎︎Devvie❤︎︎
2021-08-16 04:45:32 +0000 UTCI feel more comfortable with the latter personally! I remember subscribing on the 31st of December last year, so by all means, I don't see a difference between being charged on the first or last day of the month for me. Also it would be more easier for me too! c:
Sammy
2021-08-16 04:44:59 +0000 UTCHonestly whichever is easier for you and keeps downloads
2021-08-16 04:44:51 +0000 UTCplease dont force aizawa. we have waited long enough we can wait some more if it means he sounds good. It would suck worse to wait so long and then not even have him sound like we love
fancy_tennisballs
2021-08-16 04:44:41 +0000 UTCI understand needing to do what's best for yourself as a creator, but I really hope you do keep the charge date at the first of the month. It makes it more manageable for people who have to keep budgets (especially for people that only get paid once or twice a month) That being said, if it's causing issues then there really might not be any choice but to change it. Wish people wouldn't ruin stuff for others. 😒
2021-08-16 04:44:30 +0000 UTCHonestly I don’t wanna lose the option for downloading. I love to keep the audios I love stored on my laptop while I write / draw because Patreon is buggy for me sometimes. Example: When I try to go back to old audios and try to press “load more” the site will tank for me. It will freeze up and I have to type in the audio I want to hear. So it’s easier to access it because I have it downloaded instead of dealing with Patreons buggy site. And I personally like the billing on the 1st because it helps budgeting wise. But again that is your call! You are the content creator and whatever helps you! And please rest your voice 🥺🥺🥺
S3NPAI
2021-08-16 04:44:10 +0000 UTCWait wait wait waitTHAT'S NOT THE SET UP ALREADY?! Gods, I'm dense.
Akazu Sunflower
2021-08-16 04:43:55 +0000 UTCWaiting on Aizawa and the rest of season 2~ Whoo! Also, I prefer the first of the month, it's kinda like rent.
BlueMoon_Cafe
2021-08-16 04:43:40 +0000 UTCPlease don’t take away downloading it’s so much easier than looking for them when you don’t remember the titles and stuff 😭😖
Huggable lover92
2021-08-16 04:43:40 +0000 UTCAh yes the great divide 😂
Yoshiko
2021-08-16 04:43:36 +0000 UTCI kinda of like it the way it is. It doesn’t interfere with other bills I have to pay. But if you want to change it. it’s up to you. Do what’s easier for you love.
❤️KKBunny❤️
2021-08-16 04:43:08 +0000 UTCslurp less.
2021-08-16 04:42:47 +0000 UTCWhatever is easiest for you. I'm just so happy with everything you do. I'm really looking forward to more Aizawa content.
Silvia Greene
2021-08-16 04:42:42 +0000 UTCMost of my bills are due on the 1st of the month, so it's easier to keep track that way, but if it's easier for you and keeps people from getting your content for free and unsubbingon the last day of the month; you should should switch it. Thank you for asking us for our opinion, but it's ultimately about what's best for you and the channel.💕
Cakeordeath
2021-08-16 04:42:28 +0000 UTCWould the price stay the same tho? It's ok if it doesn't I just curious so I could budget accordingly
Elektra Dawn
2021-08-16 04:41:58 +0000 UTCPlease please please don't get rid of the downloads
Laura
2021-08-16 04:41:55 +0000 UTCI would prefer first of the month seeing as that is when I know I'll have money thanks to benefits ^^'
Vivianne
2021-08-16 04:41:43 +0000 UTCpersonally i like the way it is now but i wouldn’t be mad if it changed
elizabeth turner
2021-08-16 04:41:26 +0000 UTCI thought we were getting Aizawa forever ago 😭 I keep zooming every time I see a notification.
raettalynn
2021-08-16 04:41:24 +0000 UTCI can keep track of the charges easier with it being on the 1st of the month but you can also charge people once they join too! A few other people I follow on here do that as well! Rest up and drink plenty of water! ❤️
Vanessa
2021-08-16 04:41:15 +0000 UTCCan we please keep the download? It helps me a lot when I don't have service in this bad area. Please keep it 🥺🙏
C3L3ST3 $INCL@IR
2021-08-16 04:40:57 +0000 UTCHonestly the being charged on the same day as applying would help me out a ton since I am paid every other week. Sometimes by the time the first of the month comes around I'm in an awkward spot and not being able to pay then fighting with Patreon later to retry the payment when I am actually paid.
Kinata Kyriga
2021-08-16 04:40:54 +0000 UTCWhichever is the easiest for you. Personally, as long as I have a set day (whether I have to write it down or whatever), I’m content. Remember to rest your voice, especially if Tanaka took a bit! 🥺🥺🥺
Katsuki's Firecracker
2021-08-16 04:40:46 +0000 UTCSorry this is off topic but are you going to do the My Hero fandom? I LOVE THOSE 😊
Sunny☀️
2021-08-16 04:40:38 +0000 UTCI honestly don't mind either way... whatever works best for you!
Kyra Misaka
2021-08-16 04:40:27 +0000 UTCAlso the fact that it would discourage reposting would be great for you and your Patreon to protect it👍🏼
Kohaku
2021-08-16 04:40:19 +0000 UTCAs a creator you should do what’s best for you. Having people pay up front and then 30 days repeating after is best for you so you can get paid. I once thought I subscribed to a Patreon account for a monthly giveaway and then unsubscribed a week later and they didn’t receive my payment from it. I had to go back and ask them for their Venmo to pay them. You should take care of yourself first and foremost ☺️ no one will blame you for changing it
2021-08-16 04:40:06 +0000 UTCFirst of month is good so it's a nice and easy restart, also super easy to manage and budget for then! I understand if people want it on a specific day (ex. payday) but whichever is most convenient for you hun! Please rest up and thank you for all you do <3
jordan ♡
2021-08-16 04:40:02 +0000 UTCThank you for being considerate! I get paid on the fifth and twentieth of every month so being able to have a payment date relatively set by my own standards would be better. Also take it easy with your vocals and stay hydrated ❤️❤️❤️
BByBlueBird
2021-08-16 04:40:01 +0000 UTCI like the first month charge and how everything is because it fits perfectly for me and I can keep track much easier
Killuasta
2021-08-16 04:39:57 +0000 UTCPersonally I'm indifferent, whatever halps things be easier for you, beanie <3
Poisoned SugarPill
2021-08-16 04:39:55 +0000 UTCcharged on the day we sign up has always made more sense to me, plus if it discourages reposting thats a bonus too 😛
Faye
2021-08-16 04:39:22 +0000 UTCI’m a Patreon creator as well and I switched to paying upfront since people would join in the middle of the month to have access to all my material and then unsubscribe before the 1st of the month, so they’d get all the material for free before leaving which kind of sucked… So I think it would be very helpful for you to switch to that in my opinion!
Kohaku
2021-08-16 04:38:51 +0000 UTCWhatever allows us to keep the downloads, because truthfully on my worst days I have playlists of comfort audios that I cycle through and I don't want to lose the ability to add to them.
Nika
2021-08-16 04:38:41 +0000 UTCI say do what’s best and more organised for you! ☺️💕 I hope you’re having a good day/night also! Take care of yourself! Xoxox (much love from Australia!)
CherTea
2021-08-16 04:38:17 +0000 UTCI personally like first of the month cause I know exactly what day the bill is due and it’s easier to keep track of
Ennovyart
2021-08-16 04:38:10 +0000 UTC