zdemian : Let's Burn Some Muscle!! p117

How great would it be if the two reporters end up with massive boobs somehow...

Bronn

2015-02-06 05:41:57 +0000 UTC

I think you've repeated your point enough for me to get it: comic is a comic, characters are not real which means, among other things, that they could't talk, couldn't think or feel which mean that's entirely pointless to discuss their motives or emotions. Which basically leaves us with no points to discuss. Sorry that I misunderstood you before and kind of tried to do that. I'l just ignore your messages from now on, no biggie.

Khimru

2015-02-05 20:07:56 +0000 UTC

Right, I've seen the light! Hallelujah, women are going to walk around with boobs the same size of Than!... Seriously dude, a COMIC IS A COMIC! It is a drawn fantasy, the characters are NOT REAL PEOPLE! They do not inhabit REAL LIFE! Fantasy is a fantasy for just THAT! You keep bringing this up as if these girls are walking around in your town. You can appreciate, the story however you want, but it doesn't make it real. I used Green Lantern and X-Men as an example to make one point, they ARE NOT REAL, in which you stated yourself as well. Cool on the hoverboard info and all that, but are we seeing a commercialization of anti-gravity bras? If we are please post a link, cause that dude is a freaking genius. Other than that, like I said I respect your enthusiasm, but this arguement is going nowhere.

Batman

2015-02-05 19:29:48 +0000 UTC

And here is the crux of our disagreement: when you say “a comic is a comic” you imply that soft sci-fi ( <a href="http://goo.gl/N49pko)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/N49pko)</a> , hard-sci fi ( <a href="http://goo.gl/GT3hOl" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/GT3hOl</a> ) and other such genres just couldn't exist in a comic format. If it's comic (book <a href="http://goo.gl/Ut0nlF" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/Ut0nlF</a> ) then it's comic (sci-fi, <a href="http://goo.gl/gkocMa" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/gkocMa</a> ), period, no questions asked. It's pure fantasy ( <a href="http://goo.gl/oICQZ3)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/oICQZ3)</a> without one jota of realism or accuracy. Well, guess what: LBSM is a comic book, but it's NOT a comic finction, let alone pure fantasy! Nope! Ironically enough for the most part it's not just soft sci-fi, it's HARD sci-fi! Almost all stuff shown in the LBSM is either scientifically accurate (as in: similar things right now, today, are developed in labs) or are quite close to it (could we develop an enzyme which will grow woman breasts to multi-tonn sizes?… yes, sure, why not… if we'll forget about ethics then we probably could… AND THEY WILL BEHAVE LIKE THEY ARE BEHAVING IN THE LBSM). Heck, even anti-gravity systems are not complete fantasy! Did you knew that we live in a world with REAL hoverboards ( <a href="http://goo.gl/lov6vC" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/lov6vC</a> ) ? I guess you do now. I just don't see how you could say “fighting me on reality, is like fighting me on telling me Green Lantern's world is totally real outside of his comics”. That's crazy. OF COURSE Green Lantern's world does not exist outside of his comics! It couldn't! Almost every page of Green Lantern comics includes violation of some law of physics, often dozen of them are violated on a single page! And don't even get me started on the X-Men… “mutations” there have NOTHING to do with real mutations, they are just nice euphemism for “magic”, nothing else. But take page from LBSM, try to imagine if it'll work in the real world… and you'll find out (perhaps to your great surprise but certainly not to mine as I've explained before: <a href="http://goo.gl/XZKe4L" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/XZKe4L</a> ) that yes, it's perfectly believable. It DOES NOT violates laws of physics (except for a few select pieces), it does not contradict our knowleadge of the world, it FITS! THAT is why I apply ideas from real world to LBSM. For HOW ELSE would you judge hard sci-fi? To treat it as “any other comic” is to belittle it! Because LBSM is rare example of hard sci-fi comic for the most part! That's what attracted me to it in the first place. Hard sci-fi is rarity novadays, hard sci-fi in a fetish chounyuu comic… I think Zdemian is quite unique there.

Khimru

2015-02-05 18:47:23 +0000 UTC

Again, I'm just pointing it out through what we've been shown of Than so far, from all the pictures she's been drawn in. That is all. Like I told you earlier take it for what you will, but that's the evidence we've been presented with of her appearance. Veins on characters exist, sure I'm not discussing that. I'm merely pointing out that it was not a design aspect of the work presented to us for the comic. I understand your example of characters changing, I agreed with that too. But as I said, with what we 'be been presented with in terms of pages, the vein design really only made a large focus on that one page you described. The characters can have veiny boobs, it doesn't really matter. The point of the matter is it happened on that one page and that's it. I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm belittling the comic, believe me, I do appreciate the work, it's unique in it's own regard, without a doubt. But a comic is a comic. Fighting me on reality, is like fighting me on telling me Green Lantern's world is totally real outside of his comics. And that there is a home for troubled mutants upstate in N.Y., lol. I'll agree that there is a middle here, though, and that it's of everyone's benefit, which is enjoying a new page and new additions to the story. That's always a plus! I respect your enthusiasm, but I'll meet you on the middle ground of happily waiting for the next page in the story.

Batman

2015-02-05 17:41:59 +0000 UTC

I'm not a native speaker thus perhaps I misunderstood something, but don't see how “Patagon administrative district” could designate “one district of Patagon”. I was under impression that “one district of Patagon” should be named “Patagon's administrative district” (with an “'s”). Am I wrong? And I don't see where “district set aside for adminsitrative purposes” idea comes from, too. Dictionary defines “administrative district” as “a district defined for administrative purposes” ( <a href="http://goo.gl/AWPRuy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/AWPRuy</a> ). And “a district defined for administrative purposes” just means that it's part of a larger state with it's own administration but without it's own legislation. It's not “set aside” and it certainly is not supposed to only contain administration. That name just means that rules of the larger state apply, people from outside of Patagon may NOT freely decide how it should be governed and, most important here, that migration across Paragon's borders is not regulated by Patagon. By using words “administrative district” Zdemian just BEGGING to raise questions of legislation and reaction of neighborhoods! That's why I immediately started asking such questions when Patagon was introduced… Now Cowloon. Cowloon is different. It's very much a “State”. State, Corporate or not, by it's very definition, is a sovereign political entity (although it may delegate it's power if it's part of federation or confederation) which means distinct laws and immigration control. I'm pretty sure that Tribal Policies are no longer practiced there, but citizens of Cowloon are still very much citizens of Cowloon, they are not forced to live by someone's else law. As for “the may actually have been genetically engineered from regular humans from countries all over the world”… sure, they could be created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster or something, but such explanations look pretty drawn out and strained. To me the simplest explanation for why Cowloon is a state and uses tribal titles is the most natural one: Cowloon was once a tribe of cowgirls which grew up to become a “Corporate State”. It's most likely is not large enough to have it's own viable army thus it could only be a viable state while it's solvent.

Khimru

2015-02-05 16:02:01 +0000 UTC

"Patagon administrative district" doesn't identify all of Patagon as an administrative district,but identifies one district of Patagon,be it a conglomerate or a community(namely the city Marigold described as "such a shithole" and "a ghost town"),as being set aside for adminsitrative purposes. Rhea describes her title as being a combination of CEO and Grand Poobah;"Mater Familias" may be rooted in tribal origins,but Cowloon is a Corporate State,and I doubt that Tribal Policies are practiced there.It has not yet been verified that these human-cow hybrids are an actual tribe.The may actually have been genetically engineered from regular humans from countries all over the world.

CZealot

2015-02-05 15:20:34 +0000 UTC

I think you are trying to simplify LBSM and turn it into something less awesome then it is. LBSM is designed to resemble real life more then it's designed to resemble traditional comics. You are trying so very hard to find “character design” in an art which is not ruled by such limitations. I doubt that Than, Alexis, Rhea and other “character designs” even really exist! I mean traditional “character design” sheets with 2-3-5 outfits and marks like “neck is always visible” or “joints always shown prominently”. Case to a point: clothes. Comics very often limit variety of clothes which characters wear and often even limit poses used by characters to make characters better recognizable. Yet in the LBSM (like in real life!) characters rarely wear the same set of clothes twice. Than, Alexis, Rhea—[almost] every time we see them they are in different outfit. And poses are not static either. Zdemian often uses non-orthodox poses which usualy makes LBSM better than a traditional comic, but sometimes scene falls apart (e.g. fourth frame on the LBSM page 14). I like that very much BTW. Another one: Alexis with a ducky ( <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1503020">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1503020</a> ). In most comics (because of the “character design” supremacy) child versions of character will be portrayed as grown-up-character-scaled-down to keep that fabled “character design” unbroken. Yet Zdemian drew Alexis-child as… well, a child. The same happened with “Doctor in quotes” ( <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=971716">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=971716</a> ) and Kay ( <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1096703">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1096703</a> ). They evolved as human being would evolve, not as cartoon characters with a fixed “character design” would evolve. Lack of such rigid “character design” is EXACTLY THE REASON for why Zdemian have forgotten about veins: first he decided that they are now large enough and prominent enough to be actually shown even on zoomed-out pic, then a week later he forgot about his decision and have not drawn them on zoomed-in pic. That's because he clearly draws each scene separately, he does not just paste pre-designed chracters with fixed “character design” into a frame. Were it explicit change to a fixed “character design” sheet he certainly would have rememebered the change. You are accusing me and saying that I needlessly try to bring ideas of the real world into a fantasy, but you are trying to bring notions about “normal comic creation process” into something which is done by a different rules. Just like you refuse to accept “real world logic” I refuse to equate LBSM to “traditional dull industrial-produced comic” with your beloved “character designs” and everything. At least we know where we stay: I don't like the fact that pictures from a “single photoset” (same time, same clothes, some lighting) are very different, you argue that since mythical “character design” does not include veins then they shouldn't shown here at all. I see your logic but I couldn't accept it, sorry. From my POV pages 115 and 117 are clearly inconsistent yet other pages are almost irrelevant (they portray Than in different times, with differently sized boobs, some even portray not real Than but some “imaginary version of Than” in Alexis mind), from your POV, it's the opposite: lighting, clothes and timings are not important, they MUST be trumped by the all-encompassing “character design”—and we have clear indication that said “character design” does not include veins. I think further discussion is pointless: only Zdemian knows if he's using fixed “character designs” and he's not telling. I think truth is somewhere in the middle: real world logic is important to him (but perhaps less important than it is to me) and he still, most likely, have some resemblance of “character design”—but it's much, much, MUCH less rigid than you expect it to be. Once again: take a look on the pictures of Alexis-child, Doctor-after-she-snapped and Kay-classy-dame and compare them to pictures of the same characters in the LBSM proper to see what I'm talking about.

Khimru

2015-02-05 11:28:19 +0000 UTC

This argument is ridiculously going around in circles with too many problems here. One being the that you initially brought up the problem you had with Than not having veins in this image as opposed to the ONE page she had them in. I'm ok with them being there or not. I don't care about that one particular detail as opposed to the composition of the whole page, panel layout, use of color, and shading. That's what matters to me. This big deal your making about veins is really your gripe. I'm only pointing out to you, from your original complaint, about how ONE page of veins is all you have from this whole series showing Than. Two... Your use of reality for a work of fiction is really something we are really never going to agree on... I'm looking at the pages depicted as design aspects to show my point, yet you keep bringing this up like we're living in the LBSM world. I applaud the dedication, but I'm not at that aspect there buddy. I'm not going to bring in REAL WORLD LOGIC to a story with strong fantasy involved. I know everything has a basis and template to follow the rules of our world, BUT fantasy is fantasy, and drawn fastest is just that as well. I would not argue with you over this if it was PHOTOGRAPHS of the models you used, but at the end of the day it's a drawing, of a made up person. Third, your argument with me about the dreamscape.... Again, this is a DRAWN STORY, a COMIC, with VISUALS we see! You're acting like it's an actual dream. Storywise fine... As a DESIGN, it's relevant to the arguement. As I stated Than has not shown ANY veins in ANY image she's been involved in, with exception to that ONE page! Again I'm not arguing whether women in general have veins in their boobs, that's a stupid argument since in REAL LIFE they are there, LBSM however is NOT REAL life, as awesome as it would be if it was! It is not.... So I'm standing by my arguement of the design aspect not being consistent. I agree things change through time in terms of design, characters can look totally different from what they looked like before, going by the artist's growth. But again I'm only responding to something YOU complained about.

Batman

2015-02-05 10:10:43 +0000 UTC

Let's take one step back. I have only just realised that your argument sounds more-or-less as “if Than model has veins then they should be shown on each and every page and picture”. But that's “just wrong”™! Take any real world model with veiny breasts (IDK… Beshine… or Chelsea Charms… or Miosotis if you want natural breasts) and check their clothed pictures (we've yet to see Than naked). Most pictures don't show ANY veins. If veins will be shown and how prominently they will be shown depends on many factors but the most important ones are condition of the model (in some photosets veins are clearly seen, in others they are barely seen if you know where to look), lighting and, most importantly, clothes. Veins are certainly not seen when they are covered, even if they are covered by a wet T-shirt! Demand to either show veins in each and every picture or not to show them at all is just absurd. Perfect example of “Reality Is Unrealistic” fallacy ( goo.gl/xl6I3t ). It just does not happen that way in real reality. Veins are only shown under certain lighting conditions and when certain areas are shown, not on every picture! Not even when woman is pregnant! In real reality veins are consistently shown only when pictures are part of a single photoset! And of course they are shown more prominently on larger breasts. Why do you think LBSM should be different? Next. Dreams. Yes, LBSM is realistic and things in it are [mostly] extremely realistic (with a couple of explicit exceptions as I've already noted). Yet. DREAMS IN REALITY ARE NOT REALISTIC! Or do you want to say that you've never seen a dream with elements which defy logic? And all you friends have also only seen dreams which are perfectly realistic? You live in a very strange world, indeed, let me tell you… That's just absurd. Even so: you don't even internally consistent. Either you should complain about green skintone of Than in the aforementioned dream and two-legged C.A.P.I. or you should stop using said pages as a reference. Next. Pin-ups. Let's recall Zdemian's rules: “I don't really do anything non-canon. Exceptions being random fan art requests in commissions and during streams, for example.” <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1239548">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1239548</a> Now, IDK what “woman with a malfunctioning bra” are you talking about but I strongly suspect that it's Evelyn comissioned by darkestshad0w ( <a href="http://goo.gl/Cyppm6" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/Cyppm6</a> ) . Not only that's not a pin-up, not only that's part of a completely different universe, that's a comission, for crissake! And “Flower Patch” is also a comission. I could EASILY buy an argument “most readers don't like to see veins and thus they shouldn't be shown” (but for that we'll need to actually know what hundred of readers think, not what half-dozen lurkers think), but argument “it's too late to change Than's model now” is “just wrong”™. Than have changed in the last three pages. Period. If veins on her boobs have become more prominent or not is debatable, but she have changed significantly, that's for sure.

Khimru

2015-02-05 08:45:10 +0000 UTC

Well for one those pages you "missed" are the only referenced pages we all have of Than. Unlike Alexis, she is not the central figure of the story, I just listed the instances I've seen her in. Take from it what you will. All I know is in each of these pictures I ran through, I have yet to see veins, as opposed to that one recent page. In which case it's the only instance we've seen veins on her. Even with the pinup images, your argument of touch ups seems less viable as the dreamscape ones. Why, cause we've seen images of his pinup gals with veins as well. One being the "flower patch" woman, another being a woman with a malfunctioning bra. Another thing, using the wet t-shirt contest shouldn't be a big deal here either, you're bringing up an argument about realism on the field of a woman with breasts bigger than an apartment bedroom, and manages to have a shirt that fits her size completely, and holds a contest in a FFX water ball. I think using those pages is just fine... As well as using the dream scape of a green witch. Because by REAL WORLD LOGIC the veins should be widened and visible as you said, correct, then no matter what skin tone she is, even in a dream, that REAL WORLD LOGIC should be there. A few years may or may not have passed in the comic, I'm not going to argue that issue. What I AM arguining is what we HAVE SEEN of Than. Whatever little or however much, there's been a lack of veins showing on the character design. I'm not debating you on whether they exist. I'm only telling you what has been DRAWN so far. Page 115 is the ONLY, and I repeat ONLY, time we've seen veins on her design. He'll the same could be said for ALL the characters. Going through it all, I don't recall that heavy amount of detail being put into the characters for each of the chapters in a page by page basis, aside from the occasional pinup of girls not directly involved with the story. Like I said it's that one page that's more less inconsistent to the whole design, maybe Zdemian forgot it like he said in the other pages that involved, aside from all the extra detail work he has to do, I don't know.

Batman

2015-02-05 06:33:41 +0000 UTC

Where is it implied that Patagon HAVE an “administrative district”? Amelia very clearly says on page 108: “My name's Amelia, I'm from the Patagon administrative district”: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1428748">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1428748</a> I guess it's just a name of a district built by the pATAgon. Similar to the “Infinite Loop” (built and named by Apple) and/or “Microsoft Way” (guess which company built and named that one). As for Cowloon… come on: it's very name is a clear pun on the Kowloon Walled City <a href="http://goo.gl/NLywBN" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/NLywBN</a> , it's even explicitly acknowledged by Zdemian himself: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=858315">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=858315</a> As for it's tribe roots… they are implied by Rhea's title. Ma•ter•fa•mil•i•as: a female head of a family or tribe <a href="http://goo.gl/Vgh4qC" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/Vgh4qC</a> Plus it's the most logical explanation for why we see plenty of cowgirls there (to the level that Alexis uses cowgirl-shaped figurehead to “blend in”) and very few of them (basically just Ysabel so far) in other places. Zdemian gives us plenty of the info about LBSM world, it's just not nicely organized but is spread in tiny pieces over hundreds of pages…

Khimru

2015-02-05 05:16:22 +0000 UTC

I was kind of suprised to see such a large list of pages which I've “missed” , but when I've went to recheck I've found that you basically listed most (if not all) occasions where Than was portrayed with an inch of breatskin exposed. Come on! Do you REALLY want to use picture of Than from ALEXIS' DREAMSCAPE? Picture of AN IMAGINARY GREEN WITCH as an argument for character consistency? Really? Do you want to imply that her veins are prominent enough to be visible THROUGH wet T-shirt? And pages 72-73… Have you fogotten just where these veins start on page 115? Opening on pages 72-73 is just not large enough to show that area! As I've already said that pin-ups are often retouched—both in real life and, most likely, in LBSM world. This leaves us with basically the only one page where these veins SHOULD be visible (RFC 2199 SHOULD) judging from page 115 (not where they COUILD BE visible) is her picture with a “senator Papageorgio”… but don't forget that there Than is MUCH smaller and thus her veins must be MUCH smaller, too! And under much smaller pressure there because she lies on top of her breasts, not below them! IOW: yes, this could be considered a kinda-sorta-maybe change in a “character design” (if we'll recall poor “senator Papageorgio” page), but then again, it's only natural: few years have passed and her breasts are much larger now. P.S. And I never have said that Than's breasts are detachable: when I've talked about detachable breasts on 11th page Than was just introduced as a figurehead for crissake! I've talked about Alexis back then, I just noticed that Zdemian was not fond of the idea.

Khimru

2015-02-05 04:49:22 +0000 UTC

Patagon is NOT an "administrative district",it HAS an administrative district. Cowloon retains its autonomy by "remaining solvent" whatever that means.Where is it indicated that Cowloon was a tribe?

CZealot

2015-02-05 04:38:43 +0000 UTC

I guess I'll go with all of the above, lol. Considering how big she is, aside from her breasts, she has her hands on some serious money and power. And she's definitely not the only one to hold such a claim. I assume she has a few rivals to match her prowess.

Batman

2015-02-05 03:50:02 +0000 UTC

Well for one, the first pictures showing her in such a manner are from the two pinups where she is depicted in a sea of gold coins, then there's the birds eye view pinup of her describing the atlas bra she uses. Even during chapter 3 pages 22-23, her beach pinup, LBSC pages 1, 4, 11, 12, 14, 16, 20, 27, and that little side page with the senator she knocked out. Not once did we notice any veins on her. Like I said since her appearance, her character design has not shown any veins of which we're speaking of at all. Which could explain why you said you once held a theory of her breasts being detachable. Second and third can be answered this way simply best, it is at the end of the day a drawn fantasy with anti-gravity bras and women all forms of body modifications walking around. I understand there is a modicum of realism supposed to be portrayed here, but considering the imaginative way everyone in the story is depicted, the standard look need not apply. Again I said I understand what you're bringing up, it would make sense. But this isn't a story in the realm of reality, just a portion of it. Lastly the page you mentioned is the actual inconsistent part of the whole, every picture I've seen of her, no veins present. It's not really a big deal, I'm only giving a point of view of something you brought up. And verifying what I've seen in the pages I've seen in the comic so far.

Batman

2015-02-05 03:40:11 +0000 UTC

Wow. When I've read about The Coconut Effect ( <a href="http://goo.gl/L7B8x3" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/L7B8x3</a> ) I kind of assumed that it's really an exaggeration. Never exected to see such a strong opinions, but it looks that Reality Is Unrealistic, indeed ( <a href="http://goo.gl/xl6I3t" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/xl6I3t</a> ). I guess that in the end it's up to Zdemian to decide if to draw veins or not, but now I'm curios about people's preference. Perhaps it's time to vote? One of the promised perks is “access to vote for what you'd like to see”, after all—and we had no formal vote on anything for many, many months. I honestly wouldn't even try to predict the outcome of such a vote… but it just makes it more interesting…

Khimru

2015-02-05 00:31:37 +0000 UTC

Cowloon and Patagon are VERY different beasts WRT perception of their citizens. AFAICS Cowloon was basically a tribe-turned-into-city. Members of a tribe have ALWAYS lived like they live and thus obviously perceive it as “100% normal situation”. And since it's an “autonomous corporate state” contacts with neighbourhoods are quite limited and, most importantly, there are some kind of legal border which limits possible tensions significantly. Patagon, on the other hand, is an “administrative district” which means that there are no legal border and plenty of guys (and gals) who may feel offended by it's creation. Heck: we KNOW that there are plenty of guys (and probably gals) who quite explicitly DON'T fancy huge boobs in the LBSM world (see: the infamous Sadie's tit-zilla sketch). Sure, Patagon was founded in “the ghost town”, but that just reduces tensions somewhat, it does not remove them completely. Conflicts are BOUND to happen, it's mostly the question of when and how, not if. P.S. Of course open conflicts in the middle of district, on the “presiden's plaza” are highly unlikely unless tensions are already VERY high.

Khimru

2015-02-04 22:56:19 +0000 UTC

Yes,something more than just some man off in the distance walking with his girlfriend would be nice.Just what do the men of Patagon and Cowloon think about living in these matriarchal conglomerate city-states?Just what are THEIR perks,if any?

CZealot

2015-02-04 22:36:13 +0000 UTC

I'm thinking she's undergoing yet another enlargement.At this point nothing surprises me...unless Than is planning a date with the luckiest guy in the universe.

CZealot

2015-02-04 22:30:28 +0000 UTC

I personally think she's from the “I never lie, I just don't tell the whole truth.” camp. It's an art. Some call it “an art of diplomacy”, some call it “an art of deception”. Take your pick.

Khimru

2015-02-04 21:37:25 +0000 UTC

First: to claim that early pages have not shown veins one need to show at least one picture of Than where decollete is large enough to show that part of Than's boobs (on page 115 we clearly can see that closest parts to her torso don't have a visible veins). Which page is it? I can only recall couple of posters, but these often use powders and after-touch to hide blemishes in real life, too, thus they could hardly be counted. Second (related to previous one a bit): just like in real life prominence of veins wary. Depending on light and other conditions they could be more or less prominent. And last but not leasy: the bigger a breasts are, the thicker and thicker their veins need to be. It's only natural to see them on larger breasts and Than's are as big as they come. As for “character design”… where is the reference sheet? I've certainly not seen it…

Khimru

2015-02-04 20:51:37 +0000 UTC

I agree, I don't think they're doing any broadcasting either. But I don't think they're in any danger either. I have a feeling this falls outside of what's going on in this interview. Probably something that concerns Than and other corporate on-goings. Or it could be some sort of thing that happened to further advance Than's hand in power. I'm still trying to place what she needed that politician for.

Batman

2015-02-04 20:28:32 +0000 UTC

If they were portrayed from the beginning I'd agree. But seeing how she's been consistently shown without veiny boobs, I think it should stay this way. It would just be a bit of a silly feature to do so late in the game already. I understand what you're pointing out though. But considering how her character design doesn't have it, might as well leave it alone.

Batman

2015-02-04 20:22:03 +0000 UTC

You know, I've always wondered if she really tells the honest truth with most of her answers. I agree that this answer leaves more questions than actual answers. She seems more cryptic with her replies with each answer. As simple as it may seem, you really wonder, at least I do, if she's really making it as simple as she claims. I mean I can see, the simplicity of her going by "I like boobs, my own especially,,," kind of answer, but I wonder if it stems from something else. And if her corporation truly came from noble or ignoble purposes. I really look forward to exploring her mind set further.

Batman

2015-02-04 20:13:07 +0000 UTC

Or perhaps that are finally going to give Annabel her upgrade...

Bronn

2015-02-04 20:02:30 +0000 UTC

I'm not sure if at this point they are broadcasting. They were when they did the interview with Amelia. I think what they are doing now would be more in the "investigative journalism" area

Bronn

2015-02-04 20:01:07 +0000 UTC

there was one dude walking with his big-boobed girl in p114, but agreed I'd love to see more interaction!

Bronn

2015-02-04 19:59:12 +0000 UTC

Doubtful on that, since it's being broadcast and all along with people knowing that they're there.

Galka30

2015-02-04 19:43:21 +0000 UTC

Yeah I'm sharing her opinion on the whole "to work for me you need huge boobs" to be honest. And what is this...time thing? DAMMIT the suspense is killing me.

Galka30

2015-02-04 19:42:27 +0000 UTC

It's not clear if huge breasts are just something pATAgon employees “like” or if it's a job requirement. It's possible that only some positions have that requirement, but 100″ bust was certainly portrayed as part of “strict appearance standard” for the Amelia's position.

Khimru

2015-02-04 16:28:41 +0000 UTC

All breasts have veins (naturally) and they are quite noticeable on [almost] all large ones (both natural and implanted ones). And Than's are as big as they come [so far?].

Khimru

2015-02-04 16:22:56 +0000 UTC

Guilty as charged. Admittedly I prefer them as a feature that often comes with women who have over large breast implants. Now, that said, I'm about the last person you'll hear complaining that Than's glorious breasts have veins.

Darth Cabbage

2015-02-04 15:15:45 +0000 UTC

Than just pointed out that there are "perks",and the majority of the characters in this strip seem to like big breasts as much as Than.

CZealot

2015-02-04 15:13:46 +0000 UTC

If Suze tries that in Than cleavage it would be Submarinin'!

CZealot

2015-02-04 15:10:08 +0000 UTC

So it's that simple,huh?Than loves breasts,and loves to make hers the biggest.Vanity.Hubris.Not much of a surprise,since Than Dall has shown that she's an egomaniac,plain and simple.Manipulating others purely for her entertainment. I was actually hoping there would be some greater purpose to this Enforced Gigantomastia. It seems Suze also shares a love of big boobs.Does her android body have sufficient sense of touch to really enjoy what she's doing in this panel? What I want to hear is what sort of "perks" there are to having a bust that's measured in "dome" size rather than "cup" size. Are we going to meet any MALE characters in Patagon?I'd love to know their POV about this.

CZealot

2015-02-04 15:09:05 +0000 UTC

Motorboatin~

Mason Dunne

2015-02-04 13:53:20 +0000 UTC

Well, there are two camps: some people don't like veins because they “don't look nice”, some people clearly like them very much (GypsySquid: <a href="http://goo.gl/KkCVFm" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/KkCVFm</a> , AlexXeno: <a href="http://goo.gl/V35g9V" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/V35g9V</a> , Darth Cabbage: <a href="http://goo.gl/qD4f1d" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/qD4f1d</a> , Mason Dunne: <a href="http://goo.gl/31ZOjr" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/31ZOjr</a> ) because of “sense of weight/pressure”. Me? I just don't like it when veins randomly appear and disappear on different pages without any reason, that's all. If they were visible couple of pages ago then I don't see how they could disappear here. It took a week to move to that point by the wallclock, but only few seconds by the in-the-comic clock!

Khimru

2015-02-04 12:42:05 +0000 UTC

Dr. Overthinking have clearly mixed up the comics. It's basically impossible to overthink things when you are discussing the LBSM because attention to details is so phenomenal: Zdemian rarely makes mistakes (except for very minor ones like missed veins of current page)—and that's despite repeated attempts of dozens of readers to try to find loopholes in the story! Now, it's quite possible that it's not DESPITE all these attempts but BECAUSE of all these attempts: e.g. it's possible that Marigold is asking about Annabel's comparatively small endowments because I've asked about that same question couple of pages ago first (see my discussion with Batman here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1579656">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1579656</a> ). Who cares? It's not important. What IS important is that it's possible to discuss most facets of life in the LBSM without hearing about that dreaded “artistic license” ( <a href="http://goo.gl/DKPTrO" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/DKPTrO</a> ). So far we have only couple of aspects where Zdemian ignores facts known from our own (real world): antigravity devices and cowgirls. That's it. Both changes are quite obviously make story more interesting, not less and both were introduced consciously. I would loathe to see this list expanded for undue reason or introduced by accident…

Khimru

2015-02-04 12:22:02 +0000 UTC

This is incredible. This is exactly the answer I was hoping to hear from Than. Just wanting bigger boobs for the sake of having giant tits. Also I'm so envious of Suze right now.

BioYuGi

2015-02-04 12:01:46 +0000 UTC

Eh, but they don't look nice. No veins!

BioYuGi

2015-02-04 12:01:24 +0000 UTC

Oh my goodness! I hope it's Than getting milked, that would be just perfect. I'm just not sure my body would be ready for such an ideal outcome. Another couple of things it could be, is Than getting her daily dose of "boost", although I see that as unlikely simply she looks as if she has already about reached the maximum size this facility will allow. Or it may be time for her to make her daily address to the people of Patagon, as a sort of consumer brainwashing.

Darth Cabbage

2015-02-04 10:15:01 +0000 UTC

I don't think Than would love completely prosthetic detachable boobs. I've theorized about detachable breasts almost two years ago ( <a href="http://goo.gl/bWvkSi" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/bWvkSi</a> ) when Zdemian drew Alexis breasts which looked like they are deatachable ( <a href="http://goo.gl/ob45xQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/ob45xQ</a> ) and that idea was rejected back then. Milking is possible, though unlikely—we've seen no tubes or anything like that (as on the page 82: <a href="http://goo.gl/HgPiUA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/HgPiUA</a> ). No, given Than's track record I would expect something to happen to Marigold and/or Su-Z Q, although I have no idea what… gynoid equipped with breast implants is too stupid of an idea even by LBSM's standards.

Khimru

2015-02-04 08:35:12 +0000 UTC

I don't think Su-Z Q is the only one who had this reaction. Rhea did something very similar, remember ( <a href="http://goo.gl/Ez3Sml" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/Ez3Sml</a> ). My guess is that Than is just accustomed to that by now. I just hope that she retained sensitivity in her endowments and will eventually ask Su-Z Q to stop hugging her. It'll be a pity to have boobs that are so stretched out that they no longer have a working nerve ending left.

Khimru

2015-02-04 08:05:46 +0000 UTC

I feel like something CRAZY is about to happen. She's going to take her breasts off? She's going to be milked?

Bronn

2015-02-04 08:04:58 +0000 UTC

Bwa-ha-ha. That's where your level of attention to details backfires: people are so accustomed to find meanings in the minutae details of LBSM pages that simple “I forgot” explanation is just not considered, LOL. Keep up the good work… and perhaps veins could still be added? Shouldn't too hard… they kind of helped to underscore reality and show that these are, indeed, boobs and not two weather balloons!

Khimru

2015-02-04 07:34:49 +0000 UTC

Su-Z-Q's reactions just keep getting better. And I love how Than can just continue like nothing is happening. New head cannon, Than is always doing stuff like that to herself when she thinks no one is looking, so now she is just kind of used to it.

Darth Cabbage

2015-02-04 07:08:56 +0000 UTC

Dr. Overthinking It is on the line for you.

strange lights

2015-02-04 06:39:35 +0000 UTC

The simplest answer is usually the best answer--- I forgot?

zdemian

2015-02-04 06:23:36 +0000 UTC

Well, sure. Except it's not clear how that angle have hidden veins on her funbags. They were acutely visible couple of pages ago on the picture where it was hard to even distinguish Than's eyes and glasses yet on the close-up shot… they disappeared, huh… What happened? Usually it's the other way around: close-ups make them more visible, not less!

Khimru

2015-02-04 06:04:23 +0000 UTC

Well… that answer leaves more questions than answers. Women who like huge breasts exist, sure. But they are few and far between. Still… people are gullible. With an appropriate propaganda they would accept “new reality” where multi-ton breasts are desirable easily. Is that why we were asked to help with a movie posters, hmm…? Legal repercussions are harder to circumvent, though. As we already discussed ( <a href="https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1492810">https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1492810</a> ) restaurant like Hooters ( <a href="http://goo.gl/hBtdo2" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/hBtdo2</a> ) can get away with their racy uniform and everything because of “bona fide occupational qualifications” ( <a href="http://goo.gl/OUDmon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/OUDmon</a> ): not only their handbook says “customers can go to many places for wings and beer, but it is our Hooters Girls who make our concept unique, the limitation is only for employees who directly interact with customers. Even so, they were sued and were forced to pay for discrimination ( <a href="http://goo.gl/UTgkIa" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/UTgkIa</a> ). Here… I doubt court will easily buy that “no one is being “forced”” line. I'm not saying that it'll be impossible for the pATAgon to settle, but that will be quite a costly affair. The fact that Amelia want to become a lawyer certainly asserts that law is important in the LBSM world…

Khimru

2015-02-04 05:58:22 +0000 UTC

than is amazing.

Erasis

2015-02-04 05:30:36 +0000 UTC

great new angle for beholding the biggest of big tits ~

strange lights

2015-02-04 05:29:35 +0000 UTC

Let's Burn Some Muscle!! p117

Comments

How great would it be if the two reporters end up with massive boobs somehow...

Patagon is NOT an "administrative district",it HAS an administrative district. Cowloon retains its autonomy by "remaining solvent" whatever that means.Where is it indicated that Cowloon was a tribe?

I guess I'll go with all of the above, lol. Considering how big she is, aside from her breasts, she has her hands on some serious money and power. And she's definitely not the only one to hold such a claim. I assume she has a few rivals to match her prowess.

Yes,something more than just some man off in the distance walking with his girlfriend would be nice.Just what do the men of Patagon and Cowloon think about living in these matriarchal conglomerate city-states?Just what are THEIR perks,if any?

I'm thinking she's undergoing yet another enlargement.At this point nothing surprises me...unless Than is planning a date with the luckiest guy in the universe.

I personally think she's from the “I never lie, I just don't tell the whole truth.” camp. It's an art. Some call it “an art of diplomacy”, some call it “an art of deception”. Take your pick.

Or perhaps that are finally going to give Annabel her upgrade...

I'm not sure if at this point they are broadcasting. They were when they did the interview with Amelia. I think what they are doing now would be more in the "investigative journalism" area

there was one dude walking with his big-boobed girl in p114, but agreed I'd love to see more interaction!

Doubtful on that, since it's being broadcast and all along with people knowing that they're there.

Yeah I'm sharing her opinion on the whole "to work for me you need huge boobs" to be honest. And what is this...time thing? DAMMIT the suspense is killing me.

It's not clear if huge breasts are just something pATAgon employees “like” or if it's a job requirement. It's possible that only some positions have that requirement, but 100″ bust was certainly portrayed as part of “strict appearance standard” for the Amelia's position.

All breasts have veins (naturally) and they are quite noticeable on [almost] all large ones (both natural and implanted ones). And Than's are as big as they come [so far?].

Guilty as charged. Admittedly I prefer them as a feature that often comes with women who have over large breast implants. Now, that said, I'm about the last person you'll hear complaining that Than's glorious breasts have veins.

Than just pointed out that there are "perks",and the majority of the characters in this strip seem to like big breasts as much as Than.

If Suze tries that in Than cleavage it would be Submarinin'!

Motorboatin~

This is incredible. This is exactly the answer I was hoping to hear from Than. Just wanting bigger boobs for the sake of having giant tits. Also I'm so envious of Suze right now.

Eh, but they don't look nice. No veins!

I feel like something CRAZY is about to happen. She's going to take her breasts off? She's going to be milked?

Su-Z-Q's reactions just keep getting better. And I love how Than can just continue like nothing is happening. New head cannon, Than is always doing stuff like that to herself when she thinks no one is looking, so now she is just kind of used to it.

Dr. Overthinking It is on the line for you.

The simplest answer is usually the best answer--- I forgot?

than is amazing.

great new angle for beholding the biggest of big tits ~

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