Why can I only like this page once? Whyyyy?!
Seriously though, this is probably one of my favorite pages. That expression is priceless. Excellent job, Z.D.!
Happy-Clam-911
2014-11-12 01:44:37 +0000 UTC
tl;dr: Alexis may be immobile thanks to her breasts, but there are several exercises she could use, either by herself or with some specialized equipment which she should be able to access. Especially since she's a fitness trainer, it'd be nice to have a routine for people like her since it might catch on.
BioYuGi
2014-11-06 21:22:36 +0000 UTC
Thought a bit more about strange “She can't move. Of course her actual body is soft, out of shape, and tubby.” idea.
Nope. Does not compute. Sure, Alexis body is attached to couple of basically immovable “hills”, but that's it. Everything else is perfectly functional, it could be moved and it should be possible to keep it in reasonable shape (somewhat close to what we've seen in that old photo of Alexis).
Think that “not quite as toned… pizza-butt” Rhea laments about. Is it inevitability?
Well, most excercises for the buttocks (squats, lunges, deadlift, etc) are impossible. But WHY they are impossible? For one very simple reason: they use torso's weight to strain the appropriate muscles. That's impossible if torso is attached to immovable object (or objects).
But it does not mean that ALL similar excercises are now impossible. Many of them could still be performed with an appropriate equipment. Instead of moving torso Alexis will just need to move the lower part of her body. Perhaps with some weights attached to cables and system of blocks to make it more effective.
Many excercises designed to “sculpt your rump” already work like that: you stay on your arms and one leg and use another leg to do various kicks and raises. Not as effective as squats but still works. Is used by real people for real workouts. I doubt Alexis will be able to do that without specialized equipment (she'll need to balance on quite unstable quagmire in the process… very tiring and ineffective), but with some tailor-made equipment… should work just fine.
Yes, to develop complete set of excercises and devices to train all the major groups of muscle will be quite an undertaking, but there are nothing impossible in that, she just needs to think creatively.
And if she needs money they I don't think it'll be a big problem either: with widespread use of Boost there will be plenty of potential buyers both for the specialized equipment and also for books and tapes.
Instead she just ignores her own body, lives entirely through her avatar and works in dull gym for “normal” people. NOT healthy, that. Also, most likely, boring. Why not use lemons life thrown her way to do something fun instead?
Khimru
2014-11-06 19:43:59 +0000 UTC
But will Alexis view it like that? Guess we'll never know because scene is shifting after just 2.5 pages.
Khimru
2014-11-06 08:44:22 +0000 UTC
Bingo I was about to say the same thing actually. She's not trying to humiliate her, just having a bit of fun.
Galka30
2014-11-05 23:42:22 +0000 UTC
Cares more about seeing her embarrassed reaction probably.
BioYuGi
2014-11-05 19:13:01 +0000 UTC
Rhea is a scamp but a very strange scamp: first she stole Alexis panties, then made a picture where Alexis' rump is not seen. WTF? What's the point?
Khimru
2014-11-05 17:24:34 +0000 UTC
Well, “current state of the comic” is pretty wide thing. There are an objective part (who duped whom, if the character is happy or sad, etc) and there are a subjective part.
That's why I've said in my very first response “I'm not sure I could call it erotic”—*I* being an operative word: I don't think *I* could call it erotic, but I could easily imagine *someone else* who *will* perceive it as erotic. No problems there. People are different and perceptions are different, too.
I tend to mostly discuss an objective parts of the story and leave subjective parts alone because it's pretty pointless to discuss them: a barley-corn is better than a diamond to a rooster. We could write thousand of words and this will not change our stance one jot.
But when someone tries to bend the story and portray something *incorrectly*—that's when I start objecting. Picture could be sexy or sad depending on who's looking on it, but woman protrayed in the picture can not be happy and unhappy at the same time! That's just impossible!
P.S. I wanted to write “woman can not be happy and sad at the same”, but that's actually possible. Yet the state “I'm sad but happy” is distinct from both “I'm really sad” and “I'm really happy”. It's just not always easy to see that from the outside—that's why I rarely talk about someone's state of mind in categorical terms: Alexis may look out-of-shape and quite unhappy but these may not be related issues at all! One could not glance into another person mind… especially if said person is not real. But “out-of-shape” and “looks unhappy”/“fakes unhappiness” are objective things and could easily be gleaned from a picture.
Khimru
2014-11-05 17:05:17 +0000 UTC
And a little breather from the SUPER SERIOUSNESS from the last page. And Rhea is still a scamp.
Galka30
2014-11-05 15:26:13 +0000 UTC
If it's okay for you to find this situation distasteful, which I can understand, then I ask that you please understand that I love scenes like this and it is in complete contrast to how I view women in real life. A lot of times I feel I come across as very crass when commenting with you because your comments referring to the nature of the current state of the comic come across as arrogant, like you're trying to guilt me or argue with me over my opinion.
BioYuGi
2014-11-05 14:49:54 +0000 UTC
Stereotypical hentai portrays “sexy females” as tortured and raped which means that for most people out there “sexy picture ≅ dominated, miserable, dismal female” (or that'll not be a stereotype, right?). This picture of Alexis fits that stereotype pretty well and I guess I should not be surprised that many find it hot.
But well, for me… such scenes leave nothin but distaste.
I guess I'm just kinda unusual. That's Ok.
Khimru
2014-11-05 13:53:46 +0000 UTC
@Red Carstairs: She can't move. Is she bothered? Not all that much.
That description fits Than, but I don't feel that Alexis is in the same boat. Than is enormous yet the celebrates that enormity and flaunts her body when she can. Yes, she uses her avatar most of the time, but she dresses up even when she does not go out, she uses her actual body when she can (LBSC's contest and side-story after that, e.g.), etc. And she's in pretty decent shape, too (look on LBSC27, e.g.)—which kind of shows us that Alexis is NOT as big as to be “tubby by necessity” (her size is almost the same as Than's).
As for Alexis… she avatars not because she needs that, but because she just does not care about her actual body. If like people who's spirit is crushed, if you thrive on people's suffering, if you celebrate unjustness, then yes, I can see how you could find this scene “erotic”. As for me… I find it funny but sad.
I really hope something will change that soon: either Alexis will accept herself will stop neglecting herself and will stop trying to become her avatar and start using it only when it's needed (instead of using it all the time as kind-of-replacement for her “despicable body”) or she'll decide to change her body yet again (by removing these magnificent globes, e.g.)
I would prefer former outcome (hey, I like Alexis' enormity, I just don't like her unhappiness), but latter one will fine with me, too (she's getting “short end of stick” fo many months now, it's time to change that one way or another).
Khimru
2014-11-05 13:37:40 +0000 UTC
And as I've said before, I don't care whether or not she wanted to get this big since there's evidence for both. I find it hot, I'm gonna tug my dick to it. Simple as that.
BioYuGi
2014-11-05 13:14:46 +0000 UTC
I would have called it erotic, too, if she were happy.
It's one thing if someone is “growing” so much that said “growth” impairs mobility if said someone does that conscisouly with full understanding of consequences (many “exotic dancers” have made that choice after all).
It's another thing if someone is deceived and tricked into immobility (like it happened with Alexis).
The most worrying fact is that she's unhappy yet does nothing about it. That's just sad as I've said before.
Khimru
2014-11-05 13:11:16 +0000 UTC
Very, VERY erotic. Particularly since she was the one who grew herself to complete immobility. Her choice, realizing the consequences. Hot scene indeed.
Red Carstairs
2014-11-05 12:37:49 +0000 UTC
Absolutely wonderful-amazing, as usual. I love Alexis' big soft rump, and this scene hits all the memes of her enormity and immobility and the life-through-avatar. Of course her actual body is soft, out of shape, and tubby. She can't move. Is she bothered? Not all that much, she avatars most of the day. But in person she's physically helpless, trapped by her bulk in one exhibition hall. She's completely unable to stop Rhea from undressing her, she can't even SEE much of anything going on in her presence - the girl needs mirrors or monitors.
Powerful scene, as usual. What a violation of her most private area, to come into Alexis' actual physical presence and go around the preferred public presentation, avoid the protections she has and the accepted, polite forms of communication. This is raw and powerful.
thanks
Red Carstairs
2014-11-05 12:35:15 +0000 UTC
I said erotic and I meant erotic.
BioYuGi
2014-11-05 11:39:22 +0000 UTC
I'm not sure I could call it erotic, but it sure as hell is ironic. I mean: here we have a gal who owns a gym club which is for “serious exercisers only”, who “spends all her time working” [in said club], but… who's chubby for the lack of excercise (it's not just her butt: take a look on 91th page again). LOL or WTF?
Khimru
2014-11-05 04:18:16 +0000 UTC
The idea that Alexis has gotten chubby in the butt thanks to not being able to move around as much is ridiculously erotic to me.
BioYuGi
2014-11-05 04:01:03 +0000 UTC
That was… unexpected. Although shows us a glimpse of “good old” Alexis↔Rhea relationship, I guess.
Too bad scene is switching to some other place…