(uncut) Orb Movements Of The Earth Ep 4
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Oh, That's Wild
2024-12-27 08:14:24 +0000 UTCAgreed
Rock Lee
2024-12-27 04:50:41 +0000 UTCNot to mention donβt forget that for a long period Catholicism was Roman Empire methodology to control the population.
Stazzi
2024-12-27 04:48:24 +0000 UTCIMO a church should be a community and a community should uplift its members. If a whole community is struggling but the establishment is doing fine, there is something fundamentally wrong.
Stazzi
2024-12-27 04:47:21 +0000 UTCThank you for the information. Im interested yet time is always a factor. So thats that haha
Rock Lee
2024-12-26 23:13:53 +0000 UTC36:00 Yes, the New Testament apocrypha. I'm really interested in what was/wasn't included in the Bible and why. There were a lot of Christian variations and sects the first couple hundred years. If you want to pursue it more, David Brakke has a great lecture series on The Great Courses that goes through the timeline, beliefs, and different "Gospels" called The Apocryphal Jesus. It's basically a college level course.
ADD Theater
2024-12-26 15:50:29 +0000 UTCSo I mentioned the medieval period only to point out that monks and priests played an outsized role in science through that period. The middle ages / medieval era are not actually relevant to the time period of the show, which would be the Renaissance. The state of the church in the middle ages isn't really relevant here, and outside of Italy and Spain this was an era of weakening power in the church. Back to my point again, this show is a dramatization, it's fun, enjoy it, but don't let it influence how you look at this period in European history, because for the vast majority of Europeans, at least literate Europeans, there were no restrictions at all on books about Heliocentrism. Most European countries weren't impacted by the actions of the Roman inquisition as it just didn't have much power beyond the peninsula
Alex
2024-12-26 02:24:11 +0000 UTCYes that's again, the problem with Catholicism in medieval ages. Since not many people were able to read, let alone having access to bible it was used by people in power to abuse the masses. I am not taking my historical facts from anime, i might exaggerate but history is history. heliocentrism was never decreed heresy officially but it was still actively prohibited so practically there is not much of a difference."Suspected heresy" might not be "official heresy" and they might not have burnt people automatically but still censorship is censorship. There is a reason i specified "Catholicism in medieval ages" you can argue at some points it was not like that or the bad actors are the cause of it being perceived like that but that is exactly what i am saying. Catholicism held too much power in Medieval ages and many of them used it for corruption.
Zipzip
2024-12-25 16:54:46 +0000 UTCCatholicism doesn't believe the earth is a trashy prison at all. Augustine of Hippo for example was such a big figure in the church he was canonized as a saint, and he described earth and all of creation as perfect, with it working exactly as God intended it to, and that it was work studying God's work as it's workings were as important as the Bible itself. This wasn't an uncommon idea either, there's a reason so many early scientists through the medieval period were monks. Also, what we're seeing in Orb is a dramatization of things, and it wasn't ubiquitous. There were times that specific books got labeled as heresy in specific areas, a lot of that due to Italian politics. But it's important to note that the works of people like Copernicus were widely available still in most places, including Spain which had it's own infamous inquisition, but never once moved against heliocentric ideas. It's also important to note that the Catholic Church never officially decreed heliocentrism was heresy. That was done by individuals in certain places of power around Italy. Please don't take this anime as historical fact, not for the events themselves or the motivations of the people in it. It's just a fictional story, don't apply it to real history.
Alex
2024-12-25 16:12:55 +0000 UTCCatholicism is actually the only big religion that believed in Earth being a trashy prison humanity is put in because of the original sin and afterlife being the ultimate real goal in middle ages. Because Church over the years changed and used versions that benefitted themselves as the sole keepers of knowledge.Both Judaism and Islam on the other hand believes this life and afterlife are both equally important.
Zipzip
2024-12-25 09:06:29 +0000 UTCRetrograde motion is just like the seminal refractory period; has bewildered the minds of men for centuries.
FSD
2024-12-25 05:28:50 +0000 UTCGreat discussion guys. :)
Ash
2024-12-25 03:58:40 +0000 UTC
