(uncut) House Of Dragon S2 Ep 5 WHO WON THE FINAL DEBATE???
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it's not shared accountability if the victim is defending themselves. Cole instigated a war out of his petty ego being damaged by women with more power than him and has deluded himself into thinking himself a savior until he realized the sheer weakness he truly holds by watching his men be cooked by his own half cocked plan. he reaps the consequences of his poor planning...Otto was right.
Mochi
2024-07-25 02:46:52 +0000 UTCI love how Aemond didn’t say a word and just sat there with the Gigachad face. Every man in the room knew what time it was.
Pilausky
2024-07-17 12:16:41 +0000 UTCsmall correction, theon greyjoy wasnt a bastard we he was basically given up as punishment for his family losing to the starks. but anyway yea theyre lookin for anyone with targaryan blood at this point and if yall missed it the lady in red was Rhaenyra's maid servant, after Mysaria says to let someone else do the work for you they showed her leaving dragonstone. so shes now in kings landing to spread whispers or whatever 100% agree with Lee on this one 😂 respect to adorkable but it was basically aemond + coles idea. example i wanna use is, i go and say some heinous shit to someone, and they get angry and i say ok lets take it outside. now i have a gun in my pocket and i know full well this person i instigated has a gun also. we go outside and this person pulls the gun on me, and even fires first, but i happen to shoot and kill them. is it self defense on my part? 🧐
pachinko
2024-07-17 07:11:48 +0000 UTCMy Choice of words may not be the best at describing him. But no didn’t forget.
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 04:24:40 +0000 UTCYall saying Aegon is a “good guy” and he just wants his mother love. Are we forgetting the horrible things he did in season 1? He SA one maid that we know of and it’s implied that there was more. Yuck I am tired of Daemon’s haunted house story line. Either go home to your wife or fall for the witch. I’m done with the Syrup juice storyline. I would never say this about crispy cream cole but I do think he picked Ameond over Alicent to protect her from war.
KenyBeans
2024-07-17 04:16:04 +0000 UTCIf you look at it objectively, every transpired because of Cole and Aemond. It’s just the facts of how things played out.
Dirty_Oldman
2024-07-17 01:44:40 +0000 UTCAhhhhh. And yah. Good point
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 01:42:51 +0000 UTCThere ya go. I can get behind this lol. 50/50
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 01:42:21 +0000 UTCI know what you mean about sharing the blame but Cole was acting on his own. Aemond is not the king so he has to take responsibility along with Aemond.
Dirty_Oldman
2024-07-17 01:40:51 +0000 UTCWell Cole made the plan with Aemond. He wasn’t supposed to be going there. His orders were to secure the Riverlands. He was meant to ride to Harrenhal. It’s why I say your argument is stronger if he didn’t plan this out. Aegon didn’t even want him to go to Rook’s Rest.
Dirty_Oldman
2024-07-17 01:37:39 +0000 UTC1) Its tough out here for Corlys. His kids died before him and now his wife too. 2) Night 2 of these hallucinations and no sleep and was going home to my wife. I can't want power this much. Although...I might want to bang Alys Rivers before i leave. 3) Dragons are gonna enter the war at some point. They're this worlds equivalent of nukes but its not absolute Mutually Assured Destruction like our world. I dislike every other aspect of Cole but you can't question the man's military tactics (well besides the PRANK). Also its Aemond's and Cole's plan. So at the very least its 50/50 between them if you dont wanna give the blacks blame.
Pilausky
2024-07-17 01:17:19 +0000 UTCI really enjoy all of Mysaria and Rhaenyra scenes and Daemon and Alys Rivers scenes.
Jerome
2024-07-17 01:15:43 +0000 UTCLMAO...this sounds wild....
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 01:15:29 +0000 UTCSOME fam...lol...thats all i was asking for lol
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 01:15:16 +0000 UTCFunny, Daemon is too aggressive while Rhaenyra is too passive. Both costs them advantages that they held. Daemon's brutality cost them the realm's support while Rhaenyra's passiveness costs them valuable time and war effort. The reason they struggling so much is that they are split and unable to combine these into strengths. Honestly, in terms of warfare, Aemond has proven himself to be capable, calculated and temperate (when it doesnt get personal). As a king in a time of war, he would be much more suited than Alicent. After all, how much battle experience or knowledge would Alicent have over Aemond. Not to mention morale wise, having the largest dragon rider as their lead helps. And everyone speaks over ppl. They need to understand its not personal. Hell, Alicent spoke over Viserys like alot. If she wants her voice heard, she must make it so. Instead of brooding in the corner, internally screaming that its not fair. She has the disadvantage of being a woman yes, but in no way would someone like Visenya or Rhaenys or Olenna Tyrell and even Cersei Lannister let those men talk over her like that. When you command power and respect, ppl will listen no matter if you're a woman or man. No offense against Alicent but I dont see any of that in her. Rhaenyra's a little better but her inexperience and hesitation is showing and it makes her council doubt her judgement. Varys from original GOT once said a riddle to Tyrion about the illusion of power and how a small man like Tyrion (who normally would never be respected nor listened to) could command power over others. It honestly has nothing to do with her being a woman but rather she doesnt make others believe she has power. For example, Aegon vs Aemond. We can see the clear difference between the council's attitudes. Aegon is also spoke over, ignored and looked down on due to his lack of exp and everything else. Aemond, on the other hand, commands respect in various ways: dragon, sword, strategic, atmosphere, action.
Danny
2024-07-17 01:11:28 +0000 UTC1:13:36 Love the debate between Lee and Adorkable. Lee won! Adorkable whole argument and not giving SOME accountability to team black is one of the reasons I'm team green. I hate she is making me defeat Criston Cole 🤮.
Jerome
2024-07-17 00:59:10 +0000 UTCI enjoyed the intro and outro discussion😀. 1:05:42 Even though I care about Jace the least out of everyone, I gotta give credit where credit is due. This SOUNDS like a good idea to get the upper hand, emphasis on sounds. So let me get this straight, to help win this war you're going to recruit bastards and branch family members and give them dragons. Isn't there a phase that says absolute power corrupts absolutely. Theoretically, this should work but I think this isn't gonna go the way she thinks it will.
Jerome
2024-07-17 00:57:29 +0000 UTCNah i wasnt being sarcastic the plan by Cole was actually really smart, if aegon doesnt get in the way Aemond kills meleys and rhaenys PLUS Cole even used the soldiers that he made kneel lead the charge (the ones that caught on fire) so they wouldnt of lost that many of thier own men either.
DC
2024-07-17 00:56:33 +0000 UTCYeah exactly, Cole is actually a good strategist all things considered, his plans are usually really good ones but they keep getting ruined by things such as outside interferences and lack of knowledge
Anthony Stone
2024-07-17 00:50:52 +0000 UTCWouldn’t you say the people using dragons get a little blame…for using a dragon? Lol. Ive never seen Cole use a dragon before. I can agree that the majority of the guilt lays on Cole. But his actions are not unreasonable given the situation being at war So the blame has to be shared with all the people of authority involved in this battle especially the ones who actually fly dragons. One of the reasons team black doesn’t have much of a ground army is because of the slaying of a child. If they do not have an army it is what it is what it is. Their last resort is a dragon. It’s almost too bad. Lol. But they used it first as expected
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:47:48 +0000 UTCCole called the dragon a traitor. So now I understand the objective was to crush team black but keep their protectors a.k.a. the dragons alive as far as the people were concerned
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:46:05 +0000 UTCYessss exactly. I forgot they perceived these dragons as deities
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:45:20 +0000 UTCYall really hate Cole….lmaoooo i see
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:44:58 +0000 UTCI get that. Everyone's responsible for their own actions, even if they were backed into a corner. If we're going by the law, the culpability level is more manslaughter than first-degree murder to me. You can't just let Cole go around sacking all your allies' castles and executing your lords, and since you don't have an army, you have to send a dragon.
Trayvon Brown
2024-07-17 00:36:03 +0000 UTCI can see why you would think what Cole was thinking because normally killing an enemies’ possession would usually cause celebration so it’s not crazy to reach your conclusion.
Anthony Stone
2024-07-17 00:32:08 +0000 UTCWell I understood naturally by watching the show. But I started off as confused
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:30:00 +0000 UTCadorkable is right the attack on rooks rest was forcing the blacks to use a dragon. no attack on rooks rest no dragons.. genius plan by your boy cole lol
DC
2024-07-17 00:29:23 +0000 UTCSo to be clear. Cole 80 and Rhaneys 8%. Is basically, Aegon 8%. aemond 4%. Is the objective of my argument. How can the people who actually fly dragons who are kings and princes and princesses the highest authority in the land having zero accountability in this scenario? Lol
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:28:27 +0000 UTCyeah lmao I commented this when I first saw them showing the dragons in the streets, didn't even know you were confused on this part but yeah it's interesting
Anthony Stone
2024-07-17 00:27:16 +0000 UTCYea…i see now
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:25:28 +0000 UTCShe blames Cole as if he’s the only decision. They could’ve allowed their ally to fall in a ground conflict, obviously is a terrible idea so they chose to fight with a dragon. And Cole was prepared for that
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:24:58 +0000 UTCMy argument is that it’s not 100% cole. Even if anticipated it. He doesn’t actually possess dragons. Because they have a lack of army decided to get on one because they thought he was vulnerable on the ground . So since another party chose to use their dragons the share of accountability is spread across more than one character
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:24:11 +0000 UTCI thought you were just trying to argue the other side. I still think your side could have been strong if Cole didn’t plan it out. Maybe if he was just over confident or Aemond showed up out of nowhere, similar to Aegon.
Dirty_Oldman
2024-07-17 00:21:56 +0000 UTCI hundred percent accept Cole “baited” them. Its a war. The blacks were indeed the first to use dragons…. Thus saying its 100% Coles fault is my only. This was/is the inevitable outcome. Blacks Indeed used dragons first. Cole may have planned for it. But he doesn’t have a dragon lol. Someone of Targeryean blood needs to make the choice of getting on one….and flying it. Thats why saying 100% cole is unreasonable. Say 80/20. 50/50. The blame simply does not lay with him alone
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:20:58 +0000 UTCYay let's show the whole world that our most powerful weapons can be taken out and slain
Anthony Stone
2024-07-17 00:20:29 +0000 UTCLmao at the end 🤣 I get what Adorkable is saying. Remember, the Blacks don't have a ground army, which is why Daemon is trying to raise one in the Riverlands right now. Cole attacked Rook's Rest precisely because it's so close to Dragonstone, purposely baiting Rhaenyra to send a dragon so Aemond could kill it. The Blacks couldn't respond with an army because they don't have one yet. So, they did technically use dragons first, but Cole purposely baited them into it.
Trayvon Brown
2024-07-17 00:11:26 +0000 UTCFor the record I was 100% sincere and my argument.
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:10:27 +0000 UTCThe fandom goes hard against Cole
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:09:42 +0000 UTCLmaoooo. Tellin you
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:09:25 +0000 UTCI respect that
Rock Lee
2024-07-17 00:09:12 +0000 UTCthe audacity of cole: Planning for a counter attack to team black dragons pulling up. If only he would let his army die, then there would be no dragons figthing, hahahaahahah
Sam
2024-07-17 00:06:58 +0000 UTCYour argument at the end isn’t strong but I appreciate you playing devil’s advocate. However, Cole’s actions were premeditated and that throw your whole argument out the window.
Dirty_Oldman
2024-07-17 00:01:40 +0000 UTCThank you
Rock Lee
2024-07-16 23:52:09 +0000 UTCThis information I agree with.
Rock Lee
2024-07-16 23:52:04 +0000 UTCLmfaoooo. Me and the Homie Cole were in despair today and we lost our king
Rock Lee
2024-07-16 23:51:34 +0000 UTCIts pretty funny to think, If Jamie and Cersei were Targaryens, their relationship would be seen as normal. They probably would have married each other
Oexian
2024-07-16 23:44:10 +0000 UTCYeah, Targ incest is usually Brother-Sister, Aunt/Uncle-Niece/Nephew, and Cousins.
Oexian
2024-07-16 23:41:01 +0000 UTCYall are the best fr lol
Jordan
2024-07-16 23:14:50 +0000 UTC@29:45 Weirdest scene in either series so far, just gonna have to scrub that shit from my mind. Also, even tho the Targaryen's practiced incest they didn't do parent child.
Trayvon Brown
2024-07-16 22:58:03 +0000 UTCIs it wrong that I was team black for every episode in season 1 but with each new episode in this new season I’m leaning more towards the greens? Or if not that I’m with my guy Robert baratheon from GOT and we need to get all of these dragon spawns up out of here
jason ross
2024-07-16 22:37:14 +0000 UTCLee didn't curse us with another blasphemous title. Thank the old gods and the new 🙏
Trayvon Brown
2024-07-16 22:19:25 +0000 UTC
