Uncut AOT 4 x 15 [Fixed]
Added 2025-05-29 23:32:38 +0000 UTCThere was a glitch where a scene got cut out. Reuploaded to include that.
HD tears though ftw.
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My fav ep. In ss4 part 1
Zarayut Ziri
2025-06-04 12:36:10 +0000 UTCI have been waiting for you to watch Zeke's backstory since you started to talk about it at the end of season 3, so what better episode to show off your new setup than this one? Zeke's plan is clearly wrong, but I can understand how someone with his background may come out with this idea. Still the amount of self-hatred and internalized racism is truly heartbreaking to watch. Still hard to forgive him for blowing up Levi, lol
Krul
2025-06-02 05:27:27 +0000 UTCI don't dispute that. It's why I said it's the shame that kills her e.g. the social stigma rather than because she hates her husband and therefore her child.
Dr Sophie Darling Reacts
2025-06-01 18:41:52 +0000 UTCOkay so I’m going to do something crazy and “defend” (not really) Xavier’s wife who killed her son and herself. To kill your own child is something so extreme, that I think to believe it was simply out of hate for another race is ignorant to what she was really going through. In my opinion, it wasn’t that she suddenly hated her son for being Eldian, although instilled hatred of Eldians is a factor obviously. I think she killed him because she loved him and her husband despite the earth-shattering revelation that people she loved and considered to be human turned out to be Eldian. People she hated/was taught to hate, those are two extreme emotions suddenly colliding. She could have just reported Xavier to spite him, but then what becomes of her child? At best, it gets dropped off to an orphanage in the internment zone like Annie was. Realistically, her child may have become a Pure Titan on Paradis, because the boy’s existence was illegal. And we learned from Reiner’s POS father that Marleyans can be hanged for having relations with Eldians. I’m obviously not excusing filicide, but, in my opinion, that Marleyan woman was a victim of the system that oppressed Eldians as well. I don’t think what she did was unrealistic given what she knew and what she had to face. Tl;dr her extreme choice was made in fear for what was to become of her child
My Toasty Toast
2025-06-01 18:01:34 +0000 UTC8:50 I do kinda like that it subverts the idea that getting the "correct" monarch in place is going to magically fix things in a way the simplifeid broad plot of season 3 part 1 kindof resembels a classical fairytale story of replacing the wrong impostor monarch with the correct good monarch but that was the midpoint of the show and it immediately went to show that this does not wutomatically work so simply so in that way she's still kinda relevant though I can see there's not much of her as a character in season 3 part 2, that is a bit sad in a way season 3 gave us killing hte collossal titan and someone better becoming queen, both typical "happy endings" one might expect when predicting where a typical fantasy story might go from the first few episodes of the show but by the time they happened the world had gotten so much mroe complicated that they are not straightforward happy endings anymore, still they could've given historia the kind of spotlight they give armin for that
HAL
2025-06-01 02:01:19 +0000 UTCI've mentioned all this in numerous outros that there are different ways to approach this? A) There's 0 guarantee that the world would just trust Zeke's plan and allow the Eldians to die out peacefully. Yelena says as much that only the threat of another Rumbling would keep the world at bay. B) If the body can be changed then why can the body not be changed to ensure that Subjects of Ymir cannot transform any more? There's no discussion as to whether that couldn't be a possibility rather there's a STRAIGHT JUMP to sterilisation and ethnic cleansing. C) Again - the arguments propositioned are falling in line with the 'punishing them for the past' argument. Yes, they can become Titans but only through serum. Without the use of serum that issue is no longer a problem. We cannot keep punishing people for their birth and for something they had no say in. Diplomacy is an option. It is something that has to be pushed and strived for. If we just simply say "well they're bound to do it again" then we'd justify all sorts of atrocities towards countries that have previously mistreated us and done us wrong. At some point the narrative evolves and perspectives shift and that's the point. There has to be a break in the cycle. Otherwise, we fall into a dangerous rhetoric of always repeating the past. Germany created 2 World Wars. Do we continue to punish Germany when they have shown a transformation that is progressive and put aside their past by learning from it? No. Yes, Eldians can shift into Titans. Yes, that is always a threat. But there is always the threat of something in this world and we have to be better than those who came before us or we are never going to learn only repeat history. Likewise, the narrative has to shift and perspectives need to be broadened. The current Eldians are not the past Eldians. Trust has to be established but that can only happen through diplomacy and talks. Why are we so quick to just ignore that in order to justify the erasure of the Eldians and justify the world's treatment of them? Again - the repeated rhetoric of 'BUT THEY COULD' is tiresome because it just aligns with supporting Marley and the world's mistreatment and oppression of the Eldian people. D) Vows have been made before. Whose to say that Eren could not consume all the Intelligent Titans and lock them away if he so chose after making contact with someone of the Royal Blood? Again, an option that is never mentioned and vastly overlooked too. There are so many options other than ethnic cleansing and genocide. There are also other options that do not rely upon punishing Eldians for the past. Marley has committed atrocities for war and power against other nations? Shall we subject them to the same judgement? No. Likewise, the world has to be opened to new perspectives which can only happen through diplomatic talks and sanctions.
Dr Sophie Darling Reacts
2025-05-31 15:42:04 +0000 UTCOne question, Sophie: I loved that you noticed that, at their core, Karl Fritz’s plan and Zeke’s are the same: eliminating the Eldians. To be a bit fair to our boy Zeke, his plan is certainly less painful—dying of old age is surely better than being invaded and wiped out by force. Let’s say Zeke proposes a “soft genocide”: still genocide, just with less outright violence. But, criticisms of the wonder-boy’s plan aside, we’re faced with what we might call the “Titan problem”: there is a group of people in this world who can turn into Titans. Some of them can become intelligent Titans with full control over their bodies. Considering that, at least since Plato, humanity has debated how power corrupts—no matter how good a person may be—what would be your idea to solve the Titan problem once and for all? You’ve mentioned diplomacy and peaceful coexistence with the Eldians in other answers, but I think we can see that even if the current generation of Eldians wants peace, the next might not. The next could be a bunch of Flochs who believe in using their powers to dominate the world again. That mirrors what we see in our own world: no great power “gives up” power for fear that another will surpass it and destroy it. So, no matter how pacifist we are, it’s hard to believe the world would simply accept living in peace with the Eldians—especially given their history of atrocities. If not Zeke’s plan—which is genocide—what would you do?
André Carvalho
2025-05-31 15:32:15 +0000 UTCEveryone's entitled to their opinion and we can agree to disagree. My perspective may change given more context but as of right now - it's an annoying trope that I am sick of when it comes to women characters being sidelined. She's replicating a cycle she was breaking free from by becoming pregnant and it's one she's strove to not repeat so I dislike the narrative choice thrust upon Historia and the lack of expansion on her as a character in this season other than characters talking about her. It's dropped on us with 0 context and she's pretty much then placed on a homestead out of the picture with no expansion beyond that. She's an integral part of the original gang and we don't see her even interact or mourn Sasha? She has in fact merely been reduced to a woman being pregnant as that's all that's discussed in relation to her, nothing beyond that. Yes, she's Queen and an heir is important but you're truly telling me they couldn't have written or added anything in for Historia further other than pregnancy? That they couldn't discuss her beyond the pregnancy itself? The pregnancy becomes the central narrative for Historia rather than Historia herself. In in terms of character development it's going backwards rather than forwards for her and not a choice I would have thought Isayama would have gone with. She's strove to not repeat the cycles of the past. Yes, I understand the self-preservation angle but the dooming your child to experience the same pressure due to their bloodline seems very much what Historia would NOT want to do. Either way, to me as someone whose sick of pregnancy being used to sideline characters from the narrative regardless, it's annoying. Yes, birth is an important topic but to use it to write Historia out so that she's not included other than characters talking about her is poor. If this is the route Isayama wanted to go down it could have 1000% been written better than it has been here. I could stand behind it if it was better deployed.
Dr Sophie Darling Reacts
2025-05-31 15:05:05 +0000 UTCAbout Historia: Yes, I agree: Historia was a character Isayama could have used better in the fourth season. If AOT had been longer—something like Game of Thrones with many seasons—it would have been great to see Historia handling the political aspects a queen must deal with. When the people began revolting due to a lack of information, it would have been interesting to watch her actively governing Paradis Island and to understand her stance on the idea of a “new Eldian Empire,” since she would be its empress. Still, I don’t think she was merely reduced to “a woman who got pregnant.” Pregnancy and succession are important plot points in AOT, especially for her family. The storyline in which she becomes pregnant so she “won’t be used” is believable and fine… yet there’s no doubt she was diminished as a character—her active participation shrank—and that’s truly sad.
André Carvalho
2025-05-31 14:45:55 +0000 UTCWhere did I ever justify Zeke's actions? I've been critical of him quite routinely. I am also allowed to still feel empathy for a child being manipulated and abused to be something he's never wanted to be. Whose been created into a monster by an abusive parent. His childhood is FAR FROM NORMAL. He's being weaponised. He's not being treated as an actual child by his parents but as a means to fulfil their own goals and ambitions. He's trapped and oppressed by Marley. He's discriminated against for a history he's not old enough to remember. His parents have put lofty expectations that are near impossible to reach and when he fails to reach them, mistreat him as if he has no worth beyond that. This isn't a pissing contest of 'oh well he has it easier than other children' and it shouldn't ever be. Every child's experience of hardship is valid and we shouldn't ignore that because god forbid someone else has it worse. That's like saying "oh you can't have a bad day because there's others are suffering more than you" it's not helpful and is redundant. We can acknowledge his suffering as well as acknowledge the suffering of other children. It's not a competition of pity. It's empathy and understanding that every experience of trauma is a valid one that deserves attention and empathy. Would you say to someone whose lost a leg in war "oh well could be worse, could have been both legs like such and such"? No. Because their suffering is still JUST AS VALID as another person's. You're being purposely obtuse. "What's the difference between pushing your child to be a soldier and pushing them to be a doctor?" Not only are they 2 completely different career choices with different consequences, but pushing your ideologies and beliefs onto a child and mistreating them when they do not live up to your expectation is 1000% emotional abuse. It is making your child a victim. You are setting your child up for failure the moment they do not live up to your ideology. It's the same way people casting out their children because they are gay is abuse and absolutely reprehensible. If you cannot accept your child for who they are, and their own dreams and ambitions, you shouldn't become a parent. If you cannot find time for your child beyond serving your own agenda, you shouldn't become a parent. It's truly not that hard. And yes - I do cry for children who don't have a childhood. I do feel a great deal of empathy for children who are subjected to emotional abuse. As a teenager I never got a childhood because of abuse so yes, it hits me quite hard to watch that play out with others. Do not twist and presume my thoughts and feelings because I can show empathy and understanding as to a character's backstory. It doesn't change my perspective that what he goes on to do is horrible which I am critical of and remain critical of - but the abuse and emotional turmoil provides deeper perspective into his actions and behaviours as an adult. That cannot be ignored. Grisha is a terrible father and anyone who behaves like him should not be allowed to be a parent both in AOT and in reality.
Dr Sophie Darling Reacts
2025-05-31 09:36:21 +0000 UTCI just can't agree with crying over a quite normal childhood of a mass murderer. If you look at it from global perspective - millions of children are hungry. Millions of children suffer from war and terror. Millions of children don't have an access to clean water. Even if we talk only about children living in safety and good material situation - in many cultures hard work since the young age is a standard. In Eastern Asia children have to study from a dusk till night every day. And they can't play football with their parents who also work until night. Do we cry every day about them? Moreover - at the times to which AOT refers to, kids used to work as a miners or factory workers. Comparing to this, Zeke's childhood is extremely easy and convenient. You said that you are going to die on the hill of Grisha being terrible father. Millions of parents project their own ambitions on their children. What's really the difference between pushing your child to be a soldier from pushing them to be a doctor or a footballer? Is it brainwashing? Is it making your children a victim? We even saw in this episode that Grisha was very supportive in it, until the risk of Zeke being expelled appeared. And let's remember that we talk about MASS MURDERER, who doesn't even feel sorry towards his victims. We can't justify it by a slightly harsh childhood.
Łukasz
2025-05-31 02:03:49 +0000 UTCYou went from hating the beast titan to cry for him. I think we all did.
Vidal Alejandro Ortega Muñoz
2025-05-31 01:37:10 +0000 UTCThere is a good point made with Historia's being gregnant; there is a case to be made that her being pregnate takes away her independence and somewhat undos her arc up until then, but this is AoT, and there's still something more to be uncovered with her being pergnat. That said... your discussion on Historia's pregagancy couldn't have come at a better time.
The Voidger
2025-05-30 21:15:06 +0000 UTCI think with all the suffering he's undergone as part of being an Eldian but also one of the Royal Blood he believes it's better to exit on their own terms than to continue to persist for peace. But I agree that it's ethnic cleansing of your own people and not a plan I could ever side with!
Dr Sophie Darling Reacts
2025-05-30 18:57:00 +0000 UTCWhen I first heard this plan - I thought it's only the kind of plan you could come up with from a life of brainwashing + oppression. It's just not a sane plane. Yes there are some "technically rational" points to it, but it's describing self-genocide, decided arbitrarily by a handful of people.
Dagmar Makara
2025-05-30 18:54:10 +0000 UTC
