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Uncut AOT 3 x 22

And that's a wrap on S3 :( I can't believe we're onto the final season now. I'm gonna be so broken when this is over.

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That's a great couple of points regarding the psychology associated with motivation. While it does depend on the person, there's usually a significant dip in motivation upon achieving a a goal - and we aren't just talking about short term or mid term goals - we're talking about a life goal in which a huge part of your identity is tied to and even constricted by. It's common for, say professional athletes, who devote their lives towards earning the highest accomplishment in their sport to experience this. One example that comes to mind is Mike Tyson, who become depressed and lost upon achieving his ultimate goal. That of course isn't to say he never found new goals eventually. The grander the goal, the more likely it is to have a grander layoff period until working towards the next, especially when you need to branch out enrich your identity. This may or may not be true for Erwin, but the show most certainly implied the former. And as we know post-basement, time isn't exactly a luxury for the people of Paradis. Regardless, there's risk and uncertainty with either choice. More importantly, s4 hype (and ptsd) soon!!!

Russell Gambardella

Congrats on finishing the prologue! Haha, the analysis and thoughts heading into season 4 were amazing, I've never seen anyone have such a good grip on the story and characters at this point . Can't wait to see how Isayama rewards, subverts, circumvents, and utterly breaks your mind regarding many of the ideas you talked about!!

Russell Gambardella

I think I'm going to need a therapist too!

Sophie Anders

Thank you, I appreciated your thoughts on season 3! If I could offer a little advice, get some tissues ready for season 4—you’re definitely going to need them. 🫠🧻

Mickael Landry

I feel for him but there's a time and a place 🥲

Sophie Anders

Thousand yard stare

Szaleos

Eren’s facial expression is unlike anything we’ve seen before, as far as I remember. It seems like a mix of emotions that his face can’t fully convey—or perhaps it’s just pure dread.

Szaleos

Haven’t finished the video yet but I feel pretty bad for Floch despite not agreeing with him on literally anything. He’s the only one here who isn’t a friend of the main cast, probably lost a lot of people in that charge, and I do believe him when he says he felt tricked into joining the scouts: At the point the main characters joined the scouts it was in a state where it had practically never accomplished anything, everyone agreed it was a suicidal branch of the military and that you’d be stupid to join it, but things changed after that point. Eren can turn into a titan, Mikasa is basically a superhuman, and everyone else is so top-notch that the scouts were making huge progress unlike anything ever seen before. Public opinion about it probably changed a lot, but it’s not like survival rates for the ordinary average recruit would be higher. I believe that the emergency recruits had a totally different impression of the scouts than the main characters at the start of the story, which made them join thinking they could make progress instead of just dying like every scout before them, and I think when it was revealed that this was only true for the exceptional, Floch is valid in feeling tricked.

Merry

1:13:00 nah, with this show pushing you towards anything would be spoilers, we wanna see what you get to yourself, then discuss in hindsight I'm certianly not gonna tell you what direction to speculate in for season 4

HAL

I agree with Floch it should have been Erwin they revived. I still agree with that dude after all these years 😂

Broderick

love the way armin saying it hsould have been erwin utterls shuts up floch though' but he sortof has a point at least with him falling for an idea of heroism that was not what he imagined also armin and hanji already fascinated by hte sea itself while eren is just completely depressed that the outside wasn't what he imagined back then

HAL

yet he still referred to himself as a conman at the end

HAL

I'm not saying there wasn't emotion in the decision but to just simply brush off the logic also connected to it infuriated me with Floch. There was clearly much more to it 🙈

Sophie Anders

Cannot wait for Saturday, Season 4 is my favourite season of AoT. Love your videos ♥

App24

He needs to read the room 😂

Sophie Anders

I'm not saying that there's not emotion in it but that there's also more logic than we are giving Levi credit for. Floch is accusing Levi of making a solely emotional choice rather than seeing how logic also plays a fundamental role too.

Sophie Anders

I said that in my outro in relation to Floch so we're not disagreeing there? I didn't dismiss Floch fundamentally there is a selfish element to Floch wanting to bring Erwin back that isn't just rooted in believing him the best chance for humanity. His speech in 3 x 18 emphasises that he wants Erwin to suffer too. Levi himself believed that Erwin wouldn't be able to push forwards the same way after learning the truth. The show very much emphasises that Erwin would struggle to motivate once he's achieved what has been his life goal. That isn't me saying he would never find something else ever again - that's putting words in my mouth- what I'm emphasising is the themes of the show that without something to drive you forward you're opening yourself to doubt and weakness. It's a common phenomenon psychologically. His judgement would be severely impacted and his leadership diminished in the long run. I also think you're dismissing Armin massively in terms of how his ambitions drive humanity by reducing it simply down to wanting to see the sea. I don't disagree with your perspective because it aligns with my own in relation to Floch. More where we don't agree is in relation to Erwin but that's why it's up for interpretation but based on the way it's emphasised that doubt and lack of drive gets you killed in this world - I think that does weigh into Levi's choice to not bring Erwin back because of the potentiality of him falling into a pit of despair once his ambition has come to fruition.

Sophie Anders

Yeah not sure what happened. I'll upload an amended version tonight

Sophie Anders

aot making even its beach episode tragic

HAL

season 4 is LONG, and a wild ride, we're just getting started :P

HAL

agreed <3

Zarayut Ziri

16:50 bit of image missing here

HAL

Also, when he talks about being cannon fodder and having the right to decide if its worth dying for, it shows Jean recognising his own words to Eren way back in S1 being told to him this time, and its what pulls him up short.

Hippopi

People generally don't stop having ambition after they reach theirs. New ambitions arise. I get what you're saying but to imply Erwin would have had no other ambition after reaching the basement and thus stop growing/moving forward gives Erwin no credit. Once you reach a goal you set forth another one. Also Armin goal is NOT about the greater humanity. His stated goal is just to see the sea mainly. But I'm sure his ambition isn't over when he reaches it. People who aren't friends with Armin don't care to wait for him to reach his potential. They don't want someone who might be great when they've just learned the entire world fears and hates them. No, they want someone who they know is capable. They know the value and skills of Erwin. So it's logical that at that moment everyone except Armin's friends (and Levi) think he was the wrong choice. Audience tend to let their love for Armin get in the way of hearing what Floch is actually saying and understanding his response is real and human. Mainly because we don't know Floch, he's just fodder, we dismiss what he says right away since he's talking bad about one of our MC. Also, Floch didn't want to ONLY punish Erwin. He believes only a Demon can take on the Titans. And views Erwin as such, because he can make the tough cruel and calculated choices.

XV

Sophie + Everyone ever: "Season 2 and Season 3 were so emotional!" Season 4: "Hold my beer!" Loved your theories and how you are taking the specific wording as "foreshadowing fuel" for them. Let's go forward and see if any of them turns out to be correct. A few of your comments and reactions to certain characters and motifs in this episode leave me even more excited for S4 than I already was. So glad that you are enjoying this journey so much. Have a great week!

Lemon

There’s a very small nuanced detail in Floch’s speech that is very interesting. When he talks about getting “tricked” into joining the survey core, the flashback shows it wasn’t Erwin talking on the stage for his recruitment ceremony (likely because he was busy planning the Shiganshina plan). We know in S1, the other officers think Erwin was being too scary when he told them all the facts - that they likely will die if they join the Scouts. So we know most recruiters aren’t as straightforward about this. So it gives some more weight to Floch’s words, while also emphasizing one of Erwin’s greatest characteristics - while he did have to sacrifice many people to reach his goal, he *always* told the truth to those under him, and let them decide for themselves if they are willing to sacrifice themselves.

Kevin

The way I interpreted it, the “truth” Floch is referring to isn’t that the Survey Corps is brutal. Like you said, the dangers in it are well documented in their world. The “truth” he’s referring to is them forgoing standard military logic in choosing Armin over Erwin. As he puts it, choosing with emotion. Regardless of our opinion on the choice, he, along with Hange and everyone else in the Erwin camp, is correct in that choosing a soldier over your commander is not the logical choice. While there is reasoning behind it, he’s also correct in saying that Levi did allow his emotions to impact his decision. He was still going to bring Erwin back even after hearing how Armin’s dreams are more grand. It isn’t simply that realization that stops him. He chooses otherwise because he didn’t want to bring Erwin back to this “hell” after freeing him. But he most definitely is an asshole for doing this when he did and pressing Armin, since it wasn’t his choice to be brought back lmao

Dot

Just like you the music from the finale scene on the beach and end credits made me tear up lots. A big reason why the song works perfectly as the finale to the season is due to its masterful use of leitmotif. time to be a nerd over the music If you listen to the music in the credits of the episode, specifically at 31:26 of Sophie's video that melody that plays is very important to this season and its other narrative points. Listen to the leitmotif first prominently appear as armin sacrifices himself letting Eren reach the sea for him (at 21:20 on patreon episode 3x17). The next time you hear it is during Armin's revival being chanted (27:50 from patreon episode 3x18). This really solidifies the themes the melody is meant to convey, which makes the next instance super interesting! The motif is played when Grisha, still joyful and full of wonder runs past the walls (26:47 of patreon episode 3x19). Notice how the themes are played by a very upbeat happy string instrument that conveys his naivity. In heavy contrast Armin's instances use instrumentation that sounds more tragic. Stuff like this really shows how well the narrative works in all aspects, even the music is helping with the writing of the show and not just in obvious ways. Anyways hope you got some enjoyment of my ramblings about music cause this show is cool :)

Don Ratto

While Levi's decision was based on emotion towards letting Erwin escape hell, I think it aligns with the logical choice despite that not being at the forefront of his mind while making that decision. From the point of view of someone not privy to the inner workings and motivations of the characters (ex: not the viewer, so someone in the military not very close to Erwin or Armin would work), I agree that Erwin is the logical or "right" choice despite Armin also being exceptional. However, motivation is a very real factor in terms of one's effectiveness. Like Sophie perfectly broke down, Erwin's motivation went as far as the basement (and he ultimately gave up on that dream) while Armin's goes beyond that, and without motivation ("being drunk on something"), you're as good as dead, as this universal drive is a fundamental part of being human. If you could guarantee that Erwin would retain the same level of drive and motivation post-basement, I'd personally choose him over Armin without hesitation. Levi's choice here a fascinating parallel to all the choices Erwin made (before his final one of the suicide charge). While Erwin openly admits to Levi that learning the truth of the world was more important than humanity's victory, there's no doubt every decision and action he took directly aligned with the benefit of humanity. Despite humanity not being at the forefront of his mind and having a more selfish desire as his driving force, there was no conflict with the best interest of humanity. Similarly, Levi's choice with the injection is primarily based on ending Erwin's suffering (and not based on the best choice for humanity); however, factoring in one's motivation as a very real factor in their effectiveness as Commander of the Scouts, I do think there's a fair argument this is likely the best choice for humanity. Side tangent: I think Erwin's primary driving force being a selfish dream that aligns perfectly with humanity's interests is what makes him so relatable, inspiring, and easy to root for. When there finally came a crossroads where his interests and humanity's were at odds, it's cool that Levi guides him in the right direction. I know Erwin feels guilt for 'fooling himself and his comrades' regarding his motivation and the sacrifices made along the way, but I genuinely think it's misplaced as there was simply no other way given their overwhelming lack of information. One misconception that always irks me in Erwin vs Armin debate is the thought 'Armin's plans don't sacrifice as many people.' While Armin is certainly a more violent conflict averse thinker, his plans have had great success largely because Erwin recognized the specific situations they would be optimal in and delegated those roles to him (which is also a skill in itself as a leader). The roles Armin played and the role of being commander are in no way equivalent. If you placed Armin in Erwin's role of commander in season 1, he would be forced to make sacrifices which I'd argue would be worse due to hesitation regarding being ruthless when necessary and a lack of experience with his realization of "those who are not willing to sacrifice something cannot gain anything." Sorry for the long block of text I'm on mobile and idk how to do paragraphs lol

Russell Gambardella

Thankyou so much for the reaction! And I hope you enjoy Season 4 as much as I did!

Dagmar Makara

Breaking down "Shingeki No Kyojin" The title of the show is 進撃の巨人 (ShingekiNoKyojin) and as we learned this episode is also the name of Eren's titan. When translating to English, there is a bit of difficulty due to writing and grammatical differences. Although the English translation is one that Isayama himself approved, there are nuances lost in translation. 進撃の巨人 (ShingekiNoKyojin) = Attack On Titan AND Attack Titan The word "Shingeki" has multiple translations depending on the kanji used. 進+撃 = Advance, charge 侵+撃 = Invading and attacking の = A particle used to indicate possessive or nominalises verbs and adjectives. As in used to connect/show ownership of things or concepts. 巨人 = (Kyojin) Giant The word titan was chosen due to the Greek mythos of the titans, who were "elder gods" that ruled the Earth before the Olympians. Basically ancient, giant beings that ruled the world - just like in the history we learned in AoT. The "Shingeki" that Isayama chose uses the kanji for "advance/charge", so a more accurate translation would technically be something like: "The titan that charges onward" or "The advancing titan" which both have the implication of "The titan that keeps moving forward" - as Kruger said: "No matter what era this titan has found itself in, it has pushed ever forward, seeking out freedom. For the sake of freedom, it fights." However those don't work well in English when trying to have a catchy or short title, so in order to simplify it "Attack on Titan" was chosen, and therefore "The Attack Titan" is what Eren's titan's name is. Basically in Japanese the title of the show and the name of the titan are pronounced the exact same: "Shingeki No Kyojin", whilst in English there has to be a slight change due to how our grammar works.

Hippopi

season 4 is going to be absolutely insane, cant wait

Gina Queen

Eren is slowly beginning to realize that even he himself doesn’t truly believe it anymore when he tells himself that there’s freedom to be found on the other side of the wall. The image of a little girls mutilated body lying at the bottom of a river bed so perfectly encapsulates the tragedy and pain of a dream already broken, before it’s barely even begun.

JenniHongyu

Thank you Sophie for this, can’t wait to watch your reaction to Season 4.

Weeros

And here we see the turning point for Eren and Armins relationship. You've been saying all this time how you think that they will go in opposite directions. Without confirming or denying it, we can see in that final scene that the dream they both share has been shattered and stomped on by the enemy. Eren is not a dreamer like Armin. He has seen the sea, but will constantly look beyond it. Unlike Armin, who cares about seeing the sea and the world, Eren cares about whether or not he has the ability to do so. Now he has learnt that his freedom is more restricted than ever, what road might he go down?

EDC

It's a bit of everything, I think. It's fascinating to deconstruct a leader's mind when making decisions that impact everyone. Still, we often forget that they are also making decisions that affect them first and foremost. It is almost impossible to leave your sense of self out of the decision, but it's also impossible to make decisions based solely on logic or feelings for other people. Levi "selfishly" wants Erwin to live because he loves and misses him dearly, but he also wants him to rest, to not be hurt further by this repeatedly ascertained "cruel world". At the same time, the look on Armin's face was the look that Erwin had weathered over time. That look of seeing "something" that Levi couldn't see keeps them enslaved but steadfast toward a future. Levi thought Erwin could only glimpse past the walls in those final moments, but Armin could take humanity beyond them.

Pham Hung

ho ho ho Floch!! can't wait for your s4 reactions. i remember every episode that came out during its release would break the anime sites cause of traffic lol which made people wait even longer. also, heads up fun fact, one episode's title came out the same day as the jan 6 thing was happening in the US. the title was a # all over socials which made people who didnt watch aot scared/paranoid LOL

smem

Onwards to the best season of AoT (imo)! All seasons of AoT are amazing, but S4 to me is literally peak storytelling. I'm really looking forward to it!

Aki Himura

Same exact reaction to Floch 😂

Jakob Eslinger

And so begins the wait for series 4. It was really fun listening to your theories of what's to come. I imagine if you updated your timeline it would be getting a bit out of control ^_^ I remember watching the end of this episode for the first time, and rather than anger or revenge from Eren I just heard defeat and despair in his voice. He seemed exhausted to me. "If we kill all our enemies over there, then will we finally be free?"

Anna Kyruin

I can definitely see what you’re saying when you say that Levi’s decision was not one of emotion, but I have to disagree. Levi told us why he didn’t choose Erwin and it was because he knew Erwin was in pain due to all of the choices he made up to that point. Levi asked Floch if he could ever forgive Erwin for those things. If he was basing his choice on pure logic, it is much more logical to choose Erwin, purely based on his military experience. Erwin had the tools necessary to take on a lot of the possible outcomes of the basement. And like Hange said, that while Armin is exceptional and in a perfect world he would have the chance to evolve into who he was meant to be, he is 15 years old and has been in the Survey Corps for a total of 4 months. Banking on a 15 year olds potential is not the logical choice when you have a battle-hardened commander as the other option. I think Levi was able to justify his emotional choice because he saw something in Armin that reminded him of Erwin. I don’t think him basing his decision on emotion is a negative thing, I actually think it’s very informative of who Levi is as a person. He seems very cold on the outside, but he truly is a very caring person. We know he cares deeply for those he is close to, and who is he closer to than Erwin at the end? I don’t think the choice to end Erwin’s life could have been anything but a deeply emotional experience for Levi. I really do think he chose to end Erwin’s life to end his suffering, and then the side-effect of that choice is that Armin is now the Colossal Titan. Thank you so much for all of your reactions!!! They are such a joy to watch. :)

Ali Stout

You did a great job! Thank you so much! I’m going to listen to discussion part of the video tomorrow but I saw the reaction part already. I’m so happy that you are done with season three. I’m really excited to see your reaction to season four 🤤💖

Eleonora Frizorger

I’ve never seen a reactor go so hard on Floch during this episode and i’m here for it lol

Adrian Chan

Hearing you say "What is wrong with you?" to Floch made me laugh. I can't wait to see what you think of his character in season four lol

FireflyEye

Season 3, goodbye. You were good 🫡

Super Nenechi

I'm going to grab some sleep now haha!! Honestly took forever to edit and make coherent :')

Sophie Anders

Thank you!

Eleonora Frizorger


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