Bleach TYBW Ep 23

crazy how disconnected i am from anime twitter or discourse. Sort of glad bc i’m never getting sucked into these bs arguments. crazy they mad about the anime

Gabriel Rodriguez

You might be an anomaly. The sound design has been exceptional.

Señor Confused

a cum stain

MrDeclareWar

No, I don’t. My shits fine. If you’re loving it, that’s great for you. But for my taste the sound design has been straight ass this season. We have different opinions, just leave it at that.

Schlotzkovich

You might need to get a better device

Seal

Darren Why would Bleach fans know or care about that?

Awakened

I don’t get why there’s barely any music in these episodes. My shit auto plays to some og Bleach and the music was going crazy setting the mood and tone. I absolutely hate the sound design this season. Idk what they’re going for here, but I don’t like it. The action was great in this episode though. And Mayuri just steals the show and goes off any time he’s on screen. He really single handedly turned around an awful situation with multiple Captain level threats around. He puts in so much work this arc. He really put Izanami in a drug.

Schlotzkovich

@Tingz it’s cuz he’s caught up and knows the manga is cooking curry goat rn

Darren Metts

@Tingz 🤦🏿 🤣 lol bro how did you not get that lol it’s all good tho

Darren Metts

We are approaching the end game guys.. I am nervous

dead_acc

The problem is that it’s not your opinion and you know it, just troll baiting out of spite, and even if it is, it’s best to keep it to yourself since it’s just purely toxic as hell as a part of a vocal minority, it doesn’t matter if you were the first and won’t be the last since you can say that you enjoyed the 1st cour better and that this one is lacking, but to say that this cour has been ass and that no amount of anime original will fix the ending insulting the rest of the whole series is just a fallacy and flat out disrespectful. Your opinions doesn’t represent the majority. It’s not a matter of being “emotionally fragile and can’t handle a difference of opinion”, it’s the fact that we know you’re going out of your way to compare it to your actual favorites, and that you’re not even a fan of Bleach to begin with regardless of your past experience with it that you’ve claimed to have. And please point out where I’ve gotten roasted, let alone 24/7. I haven’t even been in a back and forth argument with ppl in a while. Honestly, just change for the better instead of continuing with these toxic takes.

Conflictor

Wellz said to stop making jokes about peoples family and violence. all I’m doing is expressing a opinion on anime. Not my fault your emotionally fragile and can’t handle a different of opinion. That’s why you get roasted 24/7 truthcrusader. I’m not the first person to say cour 2 is ass and won’t be the last 🖕

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@NoxKing Bleach had the greatest comeback in anime history, so don’t exactly know what you mean by it barely made it and series ain’t over yet. And unfortunately, OP wasn’t strong from the beginning, so it hasn’t been the full 20+ years.

Conflictor

@ExrialHD Did you forget what Wellz told you yesterday? Stop being toxic cause if you’re just gonna double down, it’s over for you. And if Kubo gave up and quit we wouldn’t have this TYBW anime that he’s on board with in every step in better health.

Conflictor

These bleachtards talking about they gotta correct people who say OP had them shook like they gang bangers fk outta here 😂 did you forget that no amount of anime original will fix that mid ass ending 😂😂😂kubo gave up and quit it’s as simple as that

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It's so hard to take bleach shit talk serious when the show barely made a come back and the manga is over while one piece is improving as time goes on almost 30 years strong now.

NoxKing

You could also say Itachi copied Golden Experience Requiem since im pretty sure Jojo Part 5 manga came out before shippuden. Its a trope everywhere, all that matters is whether its pulled off well or not

Jason

Honestly a wild take. Kisuke has done something extremely pivotal to the story in every arc.

Repsol

Who are you referring to?

Awakened

Big talk coming from the biggest OP meat rider.

revan1922

I would not even notice it lol

Monkey D. Lucci

Uh no. Imagine if he told OP fans "these bleach fans got yall shook" or so shit yall would be hot and send wellz death threats

Tingz

you're taking this very seriously guys

Monkey D. Lucci

Who is Exrial?

Malik Black

Lol it’s all good

Malik Black

Exactly like he need to say bleach fans have yall sweating on OP post but hell he shat on OP so much in the past (as well as the fans) that there's nothing for him to say as he's said it all

Tingz

Oh my bad lol

Tingz

He was being humorously sarcastic. Like, “yeah sure, what has he done? other than all of this”

Conflictor

Any fanbase of sufficient size has toxic people: At some point it's beyond community control and becomes sub-communities by themselves. Bleach was made to "draw cool things" - at the expense of plot and, to many, meaning or even value. A vocal chunk of Bleach fans cannot accept their masterpiece can be viewed as anything but a fantastic wallpaper slideshow. Just scroll through the discussions on RT' discord for examples - especially around when Gear 5 was animated. (I'm mostly just a lurker enjoying the fireworks. I like both 🤷)

Nivyan

@Malik Black "he ain't ever done anything" then you proceed to list out HELLA things he's done....lmfao a lot of very important things at that. So yeah he has done numerous things

Tingz

"These one piece fans got yall sweating" lmao never that Wellz. More like the opposite

Tingz

please dont compare , they have different skills

junitoshi

Actually what has Kisuke every done? Other than train Ichigo, helped Ichigo and friend get to the Soul Society and Hueco Mundo, save the Vizards lives, moved all of Karakura Town out the way during the fight with Aizen, sealed Aizen away, and found out how to restore the Captain's Bankai. Your right he ain't never done anything

Malik Black

You know what, I respect the creativity in the shilling. And how you're dedicated to repping your show. Good on you Damian, keep going brother.

Robert Johnson

You're absolutely right. They're a really cool group in concept and in the beginning execution, like As Nodt, Mask, to just name two did their things and killed Captains no problem and it made them look powerful. But after that most just fall into obscurity and don't contribute much. It's a damn shame. A lot of potential but Kubo just wasn't able to give this arc enough time to flesh out each character, or he just made way too many Sternritter. It's like the Espada, we had a WHILE with them and even still Zommari is basically a nobody and killed off quick. Starrk got done very dirty and killed too quick, etc.

Robert Johnson

not exrial getting triggered by kisuke

MrDeclareWar

Aizen himself admits that urahara is smarter than him. Both are just smarter than mayuri.

꧁The Artist ꧂

When they said that? And of course they didn't bc it wasn't just meat head action? They were literally two or three episodes away from finishing the series!

Doc Anime!

You love to see mfs compare kisuke to GOATjo. Kisuke wishes he was as useful as gojo like when has kisuke ever done shit besides aizen fight? Dudes just a fraud mean while gojo is literally carrying the sorcerers and actually does shit instead of letting everything go to shit. Gojo > your fav sensei

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Kisuke defo smarter overall lol that just common sense and been shown many times in the series that why mayuri stay hating on him even kisuke stated that he is smarter than him mayuri methods of intelligence is morally wrong and sickening

Fizzy

Nah bro they said before they didn’t like the season of mob psycho so less likely

Fizzy

Three episodes left 2 weeks

G’Rale Gambino

Wizen definitely did make it first most people forget that small tidbit

William Richardson

Wizen made it first

G’Rale Gambino

Y’all gonna finish the last few mob psycho episodes?

Giovanni Aguilar

Narratively Kisuke is smarter than mayuri since the latter having an inferiority complex about kisuke is a part of his character. I also don't think anything mayuri invented comes closes to kisuke making the hogyoku.

꧁The Artist ꧂

Zar I’m curious but where are you from and what country do you live in? I’m assuming it’s not the west at all. I’m only asking because based on how you talk about Bleach never acknowledging it you clearly don’t know the scope and lasting impact that it had here.

Awakened

Yeah sure, no problem. Try to say as much as you can when you do.👍

Awakened

If you don’t mind I’m going to be quoting that TL;DR to Wellz when he goes live on twitch again, as I couldn’t explain it in my own words briefly enough, you explained it better than I could.

Conflictor

It depends on what the argument is about and how long it’s been going on for. I’ve never belittled OP unprovoked or just for the hell of it, just clarified some things for OPtards/Stans/Fanatics to stay in their lane putting down other series, and I never said that you were one of them, just that you were coming off as one since you decided to call me out, only defending OP without looking at the full context. I called out someone for saying that OP was “on top” when it objectively isn’t and not to overlook other series regardless of how they feel and you came at me for it. Nothing I’ve done has been hypocritical with any hypocrisy, that’s just what you’re choosing to see.

Awakened

Cause that’s what females do they write blogs on the internet like it’s a diary 🥸🥸

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I am not talking about that thread. That was much earlier on another post that was deleted. I told you to stop belittling OP and just enjoy the reactions without arguing all the time and you said that I just proved I’m toxic just like all the other OPtards. English is not my first language, but I think I know what hypocrisy means lol and it applies to what you just said. "I was never coming out on all OP fans, just the toxic ones who hate other series" And now you are saying that you assumed that I was a OP fan and couldn’t a stand to see others arguing against someone overpraising it etc. That's why you called me toxic? I wasn’t hating on any other series while arguing with you. So it's obviously not about fans shitting on other series, it's just about people arguing against you.

Reve_Lan

why do bleach fans feel the need to do all this extra shit, writing whole ass paragraphs on every episode.

NoxKing

Also read below me some literally said it reminds them of itachi vs kabuki lol so I ain’t the only one

Darren Metts

What’s wrong with it being similar or copied? Never said there was a problem or anything I merely pointed out a observation no need to get butthurt about that says a lot about you sigh

Darren Metts

DW I’m not letting anyone dictate how I feel about anything, I already felt that way prior to linking that bid and it just confirms and reinforce what fans of other series have we’ve been dealing with since last year. It’s next to impossible not to interact with them when they’re interacting with us.

Awakened

Reve_Lan You misunderstood what I was saying as I was never shitting on OP. Just calling out some BS. You initially came at me by saying that “There was no point in correcting a troll, because as you can see, everyone knows that he is baiting. Therefore, there is no reason for you to correct him either. Be better.” Then you questioned why I said that JoJos and Berserk are critically the best when I provided sources. The reality of the matter is, I’m gonna have to assume OP is your favorite and you can’t stand to see anyone calling others out overpraising it that you believed to be simple praise in comparison to other series since you’re only choosing to see what you want through a narrow lens when you were seemingly on our side for a little bit prior to that. By your logic, everyone is hypocritical with hypocrisy, especially since how that word or phrase gets thrown around so casually and frequently.

Awakened

Bleachtards will take this as a personal attack cause in reality they are just edgy and have 0 characterization and are literally introduced and killed in the same ep they are trash

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Cringe

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@Darren Metts says who? so I guess authors cannot have the same thought cause their thoughts were never thought before by anyone else in the whole universe? pls stfu lmao

Geraldine

Glad other bleach fans said it cause if I say it as a OP fan it comes off as hate. Compared to the other villain groups, the sternritters aren’t on their level to me. They have cool and unique powers but if feels like they get misused ( considering one had the literal power of imagination )

DW

😂 anime fans are hilarious cause why are you letting what other people say on the internet dictate how you feel about something. Just don’t interact with them if it bothers you so much but don’t link vids of THOSE guys like they are the law of whose the worst fan base and who isn’t.

DW

Conflictor

Mayuri is really a menace. Reminds me of when Itachi put Kabuto under the Izanami. Love the fact that we getting some more moments from Byakuya. Not the black Hitsugaya 😂 Pat is stupid but facts though imagine if Hitsugaya really fought that way he'd be a problem. Maybe in the future once he gets stronger. The death threat thing is wild but them crazies don't represent the Bleach fanbase as a whole lol. Folks be doing the most. I thought Wellz was addressing the Bleach and One Piece war in the comments at first lol. There are Bleach games (Brave souls being one of them) it'd be fire if yall did a tournament to it like you did for Naruto.

Kayso

Wellz, when he hated one piece he would bring it to others series like bleach to compare and shit on one piece. There one bleach ep where he brought one piece at the post discussion and said that bleach would never make its villains a joke like one piece would lol.

Kelvin

Kelvin Who are you referring to?

Awakened

i shat on exrial so much i made an equation for his stupidity in a JJK debate when he said i don't know maths while being wrong and having two physics degrees, it really hurt his ego when he found that out S_{s}+f=T_{thr} S_{s} = Small sample-size f = fans T_{thr} = tendancy towards high reviews is what he said so i made it official, unfortunately patreon doesn't support exponents and superscripts so put that equation into https://editor.codecogs.com/ and download it to see it properly if you want. "lets make your stupidity nobel prize worthy. The Exrial Principle, "describes the outcome of degenerate matter forming into a substance from intermolecular forces to give rise to a non-euclidean being that spouts utter shite""

MrDeclareWar

Don’t you see irony of a man telling you not to hate when he himself would shit on one piece in bleach reactions when they were early in one piece. This dude genuinely likes to cause controversy lol.

Kelvin

they dont make you the bad guy, you make yourself the bad guy, i said the same thing to zar and zangetsu about how they feel (they literally shit on eachothers series because they both thought the other started it and thought oh its ok to do it back), you can't let them get to you. These guys thrive off these types of responses, i told you before in the other comment section your feeding exrial. Exrial isn't looking for genuine debate, although i did get that out of him since i know how to deal with these degenerates. But you can't beat them with hate, thats what they want. You beat them by destroying their disposition. what you can do is stop hating on OP as a means to get back or cope and just shit on the haters, apologise for hating in the past and move on. Your literally all the same, you all have the same reasoning "because the other did it first, my series gets the most hate", your egging eachother on ffs, i thought it was mainly OP fans at first until zar pointed it out and i saw hate on both sides.

MrDeclareWar

@ Just the toxic ones that hate on other series? You called me a toxic op fan just because I told you to stop shitting on OP. I can't believe this hypocrisy lol.

Reve_Lan

GreekPotato you make a good point my bad. Went about it the wrong way. But even when I don't hate back and defend Bleach ppl still make me the bad guy. Idk anymore f it. This Exrial dude is a cunt. Something has to give. Man idk ig we gonna be be arguing mfs for this shit to stop idk what to do lmfao. I told him let's bring it to discord but he doesn't want to ofc

Tingz

exrial, your the biggest rat here, we all know your insecure about people liking bleach, you want validation to cope that bleach exists and its popular, your so threatened by people liking and thinking bleach is the best you go out of your way to hate on it consistently to cope with that fact.

MrDeclareWar

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Reve_Lan

Rob liking mayrui Is a weird but welcome suprise

Scorsche

jump ship, im not on the side of haters, i said the same shit to zar when he did exactly what you are doing and zangetsu when zar quoted his hate. Exrial starting shit is his problem and insecurities, hes a crusty cum stain, so the only option you have is to shit on OP and become like him is it. You aren't taking up for bleach and you arent the only one defending it, ive destroyed that waste of sperm many times and not once did i hate on other shows doing it. You take shit for the fans you claim, so you act as a hater for the fans, great your making us look bad.. I say shit to exrial under most of his comments he makes as do so many others. read the chat. When he posts something bad, just take the piss out of him and his insecure little ass, dont be like him. Zar said this to me, he feels like he needs to do the same thing as you because of the hate OP gets. You are both appropriating the hate by that logic, by doing what your doing your giving other fans a false reason to shit on bleach and vice versa.

MrDeclareWar

Yoxxhio I did expect more from them as a final villian group in a series like Bleach that has produced better villians. Ik that they're all strong, but even so some are getting treated like fodder. I don't think they should get a pass just because they aren't the real deal. Also besides strength, we don't really learn anything about most of em, no backstory no nothing, so it's hard to even care about them

Justus A

Facts glad yall are finally seeing tingz true colors. Hes just a snake that pretends hes nice but in reality hes spiteful that us OPChads stay pissing all over these bleachtards.

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For RT TV this is what explains the situation of and where the toxicity came from addressing that Twitter drama: https://youtu.be/Rwo3sQCCcJU?si=AF_Ai4-E-PUM4Iad and https://x.com/jaymeshanson/status/1701040887499718765?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA A Bleach animator addressing it: https://x.com/nextfurther/status/1700675112142524894?s=20 The main individual under that same thread responsible: https://x.com/NaisuNa11/status/1700686711809040802?s=20 Even further proof: (https://x.com/peakflction/status/1700663721188811065?) (https://x.com/re4oy_/status/1700668828248654151?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA) (https://x.com/kelop2610/status/1701358138098659382?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA) TL;DR A Group of leakers that constantly leaks images for the upcoming TYBW Eps and even the full Ep a whole day prior to it officially releasing began harassing animators and staff members of the series due to their own personal reasons such as only being interested in Bleach for it’s fan service material that was removed from EP 22 regarding Orhime’s outfit and fans of other series falsely comparing TYBW’s animation to their favorites such as JJK and OP. It was NEVER Bleach fans. The most toxic part of the Bleach fandom would be relationship shippers, but will get into that as the arc wraps up as it goes into spoiler territory. Bleach fans have been enjoying this arc through and through.

Awakened

@GreekPotato nah don't jump ship and point me as the bad guy now. Exrial constantly starting bullshit evey single day yet when I take up for Bleach and the fans then I'm the bad guy, fuck that. Literally nobody says shit to Exrial but when I respond to him people wanna get mad too, don't compare me to him

Tingz

@Darren agreed

MrDeclareWar

@justus, I dont know why you think the stern ritters are underwhelming; you might have just overrated them from the jump. They are captain-level, and some are a little over. Each captain that's fought has nearly lost their life to get the win. Also, you said you read the manga, so you should know these aren't even the real deal. So I don't really see how they are underwhelming in any way. I mean, look at the state of the soul society right now. Nobody else is doing that; not even aizen fi he invaded with the espada

Yoxxhio

yeah i agree, tingz has been posting some hateful shit and i've seen them all and called him out on it.

MrDeclareWar

@kelvin so then don’t fight end of the day no man can force you to do anything if they fighting it’s cuz they want to regardless don’t blame rttv for it

Darren Metts

i see a post zar has @ me and it's been deleted, so idk.

MrDeclareWar

@ThegreekPotato facts tingz and that other guy are literally hypocrites they are all equally toxic the way I see it

Darren Metts

@zar i believe there will be bleach fans who are doing this but it's very few who send death threats and hate, it's mainly non bleach fans that im seeing do this on twitter but the vast majority bleach fans are supporting it, https://twitter.com/nextfurther/status/1700675112142524894 i do see alot of this kinda trash from these hateful OP fans https://twitter.com/arakidagoat/status/1700964487895859268/photo/1

MrDeclareWar

@ i found this guy being a piece of shit under the animators comment, he did change his pfp to ichigo from luffy so im sure if hes lying with his pfp about being a bleach fan https://twitter.com/NaisuNa11/status/1700686711809040802 https://twitter.com/NaisuNa11/status/1700705653764026867

MrDeclareWar

@Tingz your the one who started this thread tho so wdym here comes the troll when your the one who started the thread smh y’all both equally toxic

Darren Metts

@sanji better than marineford? I mean I haven’t read the manga so idk but as of right now? Hell no

Darren Metts

Darren He has millions of subscribers and supporters, so how is he low tier? Maybe in terms of quality, but he’s still a major influencer. Anyways, noI was never coming out all OP fans, just the toxic ones that hate on other series. And I never made a post comparing the two, what are you referring to??

Awakened

zar i know fans were annoyed those scenes were removed but i never saw bleach fans be toxic to kubo over those scenes removed, i know bleach fans were toxic in the past for sure. There are bound to be some popular or not but i never saw any regarding this at that level of toxicity

MrDeclareWar

Your sick and tired of comparisons yet make a post comparing the two? You really need to check your ego

Darren Metts

@ThegreekPotato agreed saying optards feels like he’s coming at any one who’s a op fan

Darren Metts

I didn’t delete it, it’s still up

Awakened

@garnt is an extremely low tier one piece supporter lol that is not a good example and since when does the opinion of one guy become law?

Darren Metts

Darren Why don’t you call out the troll here saying “Bleachtards”? Why is it only calling out those saying OPtards? If anything, you could’ve also called out both.

Awakened

You guys are toxic like actually holy crap optards? Why y’all name calling

Darren Metts

i saw "“It was never bleach fans” @thegreekpotato this is y I said what I said cause he’s trying to avoid accountability like it’s the first time it’s happened. Correct statement is it’s not JUST bleach fans buts it omission of bleach fans just to paint a picture and show a certain untrue victim narrative" but he deleted his comment so i cant reply, who was it and what was said?

MrDeclareWar

Mf there is no “accountability” since it had nothing to do with the Bleach fans in the first damn place, ain’t none of us got time to be playing victim here and you would know that If you actually bothered to look at those sources. If you truly believe Bleach fans were partially responsible, why don’t you provide some sources of proof. Go right ahead and I’ll be waiting.

Awakened

“It was NEVER bleach fans” @thegreekpotato this is y I said what I said cause he’s trying to avoid accountability like it’s the first time it’s happened. Correct statement is it’s not JUST bleach fans buts it omission of bleach fans just to paint a picture and show a certain untrue victim narrative

Zar D. Goat

the tweet has 130k views, it's a big deal because it spreads misinformation and hate aswell as being extremely hypocritical and stupid since anyone can draw their fiction however they choose as long as it's not pornography of underaged girls or shit like that. Even OP fans were sending pics of OP girls younger than orihime to shut him up.

MrDeclareWar

Orihime is a bad character but that wasn't your claim, your claim pertained to trope females not being important to the plot despite not describing the trope which i debunked, how is rukia not a healthy portrayal of women? same for orihime, why is needing help not healthy for women which is what i assume your referring to about orihime and rukia?. If nami gets shit on then dont shit on other characters... we've been through this. Your literally letting these haters ruin your series and you yourself becoming a hater of other series.

MrDeclareWar

("Lmfao nigga named the same shit 4 times cause bleach really ain’t got shit but drip (drip/style character designs aesthetic) are all the same shit bleach doesn’t have female characters lmao in what works it’s like 3 we’ll portrayed females that obviously goes to op with characters like robin nami big mom and much more lmao must influence? Stop. Thematic structure obviously goes to op and Naruto as well lmao y’all literally use the existence of any thematic structure and act like it’s god but if that was true it wouldn’t be known for just its drip. Bland villains with no character or motivation just cool edgy story with little substance or lesson and a big reason why the manga didn’t do as well cause without the flashy colors the story falls flat" shitting on bleach and someone for saying how he thinks bleach is better (shitpost) "Name me 1 well written female with importance to the story that isn’t also a terrible stereotype 💀 that’s like saying Naruto has a good female Cast cause of tsunade." same thing again implying no well written female characters (toxic) "YYH with bleach copied so stop acting like everyone copied the original bleach when it’s also HEAVlLY inspired by other anime like yyh domain expansion is literally nothing like Bankai except for like 2 characters but nobody makes their own space and it works in its own way it’s just a sad way u bleach fans try and overextend your influence.") Again fighting hate with hate, You started the beef in the comment section because op said bleach was better, nor did you offer any valid arguments, you just said one liners, we went over this, the original post was his opinion and you didnt like it so you shat on bleach, it wasn't even a hateful post just his opinion, you could have just said i prefer OP or OP >Bleach. why does he have to provide proof for his opinion, you dont have too for yours and you didnt, he clearly prefers bleach. You literally said bleach copied the other shows despite me and the others saying inspiration, it was exrial, zangetsu who said copied and you. why stoop to their level

MrDeclareWar

No cap tho let’s be real this mayuri drug ability has to have taken influence/copied from Naruto with the izanagi and izanami

Darren Metts

It’s good episode 1 Sanji and zef backstory is goated namie story is goated it’s not my fault I need to be spoon fed and can’t handle a slow burn story with actual progression on top of a cool concept

Zar D. Goat

Awakened

“It was never bleach fans” @thegreekpotato this is y I said what I said cause he’s trying to avoid accountability like it’s the first time it’s happened. Correct statement is it’s not JUST bleach fans buts it omission of bleach fans just to paint a picture and show a certain untrue victim narrative

Zar D. Goat

It’s not the beef, it’s the controversy that Wellz brought up in the beginning. And after all that you just said, even if it’s just your opinion, i’m utterly convinced you’re not a Bleach fan, but thank you for finally being honest. No matter what you feel about the OST or the female characters. It doesn’t reflect reality, it’s quite the contrary.

Awakened

The tweet doest even have 200 likes and u act like it’s big deal 💀 how many tweets are just like this about op 😭💀

Zar D. Goat

Awakened

Ah yes the beef started sep 9th💀 @thegreekpotato and I said that in response to zangetsu aka @ saying it was the best at those things with no metric or prof not even a solid argument never said bleach as whole was shit or mid just aspects such as female cast and ost I can’t stand that singing shit for ichigo always hated it and again rukia and otohime is trash fr just not at all a healthy portrayal of woman like I would say yoruichi but she is the outlier not the standard most woman are weak simps who’s entire importance is based off a man. Not “the best female cast” especially when nami is shit on for how she dresses when otohimes tits get to be all out without the same outrage.

Zar D. Goat

yeah im reporting him, bruh the OP fans are calling him out for that w OP female characters under orihimes age lmao. it's probably exrial

MrDeclareWar

Death threats? Wow I wanna speak more on this but I mean I only see myself being attacked if that’s what the fans are doing to the animators imagine what they’d do to me geez

Darren Metts

Nah, i’m keeping this one up. It has nothing to do with being “mentally fragile” i’m just sick and tired of the back-and-forth needless comparisons and bullshit. Bleach isn’t even my favorite series and I’ve never been a “meat rider” for anything like you are for JJK.

Awakened

Dont worry he will delete his comment like a cowards to paint the narrative that hes right. At the end of the day hes mentally fragile and his biggest pride is being the biggest bleach meat rider

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He honestly needs to have his whole account removed.

Awakened

oh amir, i destroyed this guy lmao, i'll be on him in this post aswell

MrDeclareWar

You keep misunderstanding my position and stance, as well as my intentions, so I’ll make it as clear as possible. Bleach or any other series that I’ve shown favoritism towards isn’t my number 1 or 2. It’s simply amongst my favorites, but that’s about it. I have no ill will or hate towards OP itself as I’ve been following it for 20+ years, personally I prefer the manga, but for those that prefer the anime, despite all of its glaring flaws, more power to you. What I truly hate is OPtards or any toxic OP fans that bring up their series while simultaneously putting everything else down, even other well-established an iconic series. You constantly say I failed to lack accountability, but what about accountability from your people’s side? And I only delete comments for the sake of stopping notifications or when it gets a little too toxically out of hand.

Awakened

“Fans like you’re self” fr delusional like you’re not the biggest insecure hater. We literally go back and forth if I deleting hating comments after we come at u and expose ur hypocrisy all I do is force u to hold ur own shows and fans that u hold op to and u can’t handle it

Zar D. Goat

Does that include you or can you be better?

Awakened

Zar Check this out and carefully look through the thread https://x.com/peakflction/status/1700663721188811065?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA this is where the current controversy started and it’s from an OP influencer. I don’t link anything due to any damn agenda.

Awakened

i never said sales or viewership/air times does or doesnt relate to quality. as i said to sanji, it was just a flex for bleach in its glory days. it had nothing to do with your claims in actuality and it only peaked for 3 years whereas one piece has done far better. It's a ratings comparison, nothing to do with quality and i agree factors like arcs and air time come into play but as i said bleach got the first air time because it was doing the best at the time as i said. I know for a fact bleach tybw has higher rated eps than one piece on average, as for the rest of bleach it's likely true since it dropped. also i only asked for a source to your claim of manga sales for marineford cause i dont think its130mil+.

MrDeclareWar

U can easily try and debunk me I guess we been sharing this shit. I’m tryna smoke this blunt but I’m just op is incredibly under sold by other fans based of ratings that’s aren’t fair comparisons. Half of the string characters in op aren’t even introduced while bleach and Naruto was outshining it. That’s expected but means nothing but it was more popular at that time for that reason not that it’s just better as a whole

Zar D. Goat

zar our last comment section you said bleach was shit and mid. aswell as saying every female is a trope and no good female characters exists that arent tropes. You and zangetsu were both hating. we went through this, i copy and pasted your comments.

MrDeclareWar

Sales don’t equal quality but viewership skewed by airtime and specify time doesn’t? U compare ratings during different points in respective stories instead of total number like sakes how does that make senses? And you’re smart so I hope I can explain better then tings and crew. Me spending money vs watching for free I think money shows more commitments personally. And U can look up a tiktoker does Total ratings and Op has way less lower rated episodes as well as more high rated episodes then bleach and Naruto pace isn’t great but not as bad as try to say if it was perfect op would be god like popularity

Zar D. Goat

"so y is the live action going so crazy?" hmmm because maybe its a whole different story line all the characters are doing different shit its not the same exact copy paste story plus with live action you dont deal with the old animation, anyone who hasnt watched OP can get into the live action version of it and enjoy it. but OP does get good tho by alabasta for me

Tingz

oh ok, so more than bleach, do you have a source to prove that?

MrDeclareWar

I’m saying that marineford volumes sold over 130 mil during its anime run

Zar D. Goat

@sanji yes sales dont equal quality, i've made that exact point before, i dont think anyone is arguing that tho other than zar implying in response to you

MrDeclareWar

Yeah and my point is it’s not op fans like people have claimed on here with even sharing a yt video blaming other fandoms instead of taking accountability

Zar D. Goat

Hating on the material would be saying shit like it’s ass not saying it’s top 3 with just unsatisfactory pacing and as a result unsatisfactory fights and or character moments same as others have said on this same thread and were met with positivity simply cause he wasn’t a op fan

Zar D. Goat

your saying marineford sold more volumes than bleach has during its run time, have you got a source for that? bleach is at 130mil+, 120mil+ post anime air date. or are you saying marine ford sold more than bleach during any respective individual arc run time in bleach. so arc to arc ratio it sold more than any single bleach arc? that would make sense, i dont understand exactly what your saying.

MrDeclareWar

“Early op was not good” so y is the live action going so crazy?

Zar D. Goat

Exactly so the sales would be even bigger unless ur going to argue more people pirate other shows more than others 💀 @theGreekPotato agian I miss understand I mean during marinefords run time specially it outsold all of bleach alone not just op but the volumes specifically covering marineford alone outsold all of bleach and it’s still true to this day with the numbers from back then not even updated sales

Zar D. Goat

It’s funny cause u really think those people are everyone and if that’s the case op would never be successful. It just happens to keep getting better consistently that why people say it’s good at a certain number cause they’re comparing it to Other things that’s further ahead in story rather than enjoying the set up and character moments in early op. And yeah that’s u fun mean ex what it is it’s a comedy heavy show and always will be it was funny af with all the gags with usopp and and luffy with the zombie/ old man it was heavily inspired by Halloween yeah so how is that negative? U always throw the number of people who didn’t like it and ignore more people stilll fucked with it. At this point if everyone liked everything op would be more successful than the Bible but that’s not how we judge stuff cause plenty don’t like bleach or Naruto but that’s doesn’t matter we only count the fans and op has more

Zar D. Goat

@Exrial yeah okay lil hoe, soft and two faced how??? You're funny. I already got my point across not gonna add anymore fuel to the fire. Plus my comment might get removed like they removed yours 🤣

Tingz

Wellz knows about the Twitter stuff, watch the beginning of this reaction again.

D

see thats the thing with u fans you say "fun" when the shit really be wack and boring, it felt like halloween. idk how else to say it im trying to be respectful im just really blunt. Early OP was not good it didnt hook you in. There's a reason why many people say it didnt take them till hundreds of episodes for them to finally get into OP

Tingz

Bro edited his comment cause he soft and two faced. No wonder you like midchigo since your all talk no action, I already ran you off twice I own you

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Thriller bark is fun and not meant to be a top arc but a breather and set up coming off water 7/ ennis lobby and going into the war arc with a bunch of cool set up for wano as well as getting a new crew member and funny jokes. Just cause it’s not serious or edgy doesn’t mean it’s not good and that’s ur problem now. “Early op was trash” u stay saying that like it’s respectful criticism and wonder why we shit on ur favorites

Zar D. Goat

Dont know what you mean but alright

Tingz

He was recruited, but he isn't the same. Characters progress. He has surpassed Kisuke per CFYOW

Bleach Sensei

“So he’ll learn a lesson” the delusion is actually scary you’ve been doing this to op especially when boruto was airing now tryna act like it’s the other way around is actually psychotic. I respect exrial at least for sticking to his guns and not playing victim after doing the same shit

Zar D. Goat

bruh he wont learn his lesson by shitting on OP, i doubt he even cares. Just shit on exrial.

MrDeclareWar

May have something to do with their comments at the beginning video. Bleach animation staff been getting harassed by some people I think on Twitter. They probably don't want to feed into the toxic back and forth caused by those comments.

D

@Zar Well TB is trash and I think any OP fan would agree TB is trash or at least its one of their least fav arcs it just wasnt good. Very slow paced and dragged out only good thing about it was Nothing Happened. Early OP was trash too

Tingz

D that's true but he be in every comment section, wonder why rttv cracked down today

Justus A

Just playing tit for tat. I like OP but since he wanna hate on Bleach I'll do it for OP so that way he'll learn his lesson and stfu

Tingz

Yeah and this is the normal tingz we dealt with all throughout thriller back and early op exrial really came after him and turned up the toxicity

Zar D. Goat

Well it happened to him while he was writing the arc as well so u can’t just blame twitter or other fans

Zar D. Goat

Xeparator yea most of the ones I think are memorable we haven't seen much of yet so ik they'll get better

Justus A

I mean Exrial's comments are just pure troll bait, pretty sure any serious comment won't get removed lol.

D

Twitter in itself is toxic lol. I’m surprised that Twitter drama is heading here lol. The minority at twitter doesn’t represent the entire community. The bleach animator shouldn’t be getting harassed by the chronically online Twitter users.

Kelvin

Lmfao nothing funnier than u acting like this wasn’t ur usual post before we shit on u continuously for hating while claiming to be fan doing nothing but compare and putting down rather than criticizing.

Zar D. Goat

bruh i know you copied exrials comment but why you hating on OP? you're as bad as exrial. Just relax. both are goats. you can shit on exrial without putting down OP for others to just shit on bleach.

MrDeclareWar

Lol won't even lie to yall I did hesitate, but it was because Exrial's 1st comment got removed, so I thought anything that might come off as hate wouldn't be good

Justus A

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Tingz

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Tingz

not exrial being insecure again after having his comment removed...

MrDeclareWar

Lmfao stfu I said the same shit and was called a hater by the mob just cause I like op. It’s a regular a respectful criticism but it’s only excepted if ur not a fan of another series

Zar D. Goat

FYI Kisuke was technically the smarter scientist. If y'all remember, he's the one who recruited Mayuri to the Research division. Mayuri being somewhat insecure about that is actually quite important to his character, as you will see later.

D

*Damian doesn't stop begging, nor does he go an touch grass. The shill demands are just as weak as mine. True equality*

Damian Wayne™

Yeah honestly, most of the SternRitters have been a bit underwhelming for a final villain group, out of the 26 of em, i’d say no more than about half of them are memorable, but since we have more than half of the arc left to go (and especially if you read the manga) you know there’s about to be a shift. The pacing is meant to be fast since it’s appropriate for a war arc as it adapts on average 4–5 chapters per Ep. It’s the fact that Kubo tends to introduce a lot of characters all at once since the story is very character driven, so a lot of them need to get dealt and done with quickly to progress the story, which even Wellz pointed out in one of the earlier reactions of this part.

Conflictor

He's scared because of toxic fans of other series lol. He knows if he criticizes all the One Piece nerds will descend on this thread - case in point, see above lol. Real Bleach fans don't care - I have my issues with Bleach too, but I still love it.

D

I somewhat agree as well, there’s definitely a lot forgettable stern Ritter’s and the pacing def makes thing look dodgy. However I felt the soul reaper captains were more underwhelming but I guess that’s what makes Ichigo reliable

Delgado

Mid series got dropped get over it

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Glad you agree with me Justus A. For bleachs final arc and 200 chapters at that it had the weakest villians of the story and the ending was terrible. No wonder ppl didnt like TYBW

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Stop begging and go touch some grass.

D

This brother is scared to express his opinion but op the toxic fan base 💀

Zar D. Goat

Not taking exrial's comment seriously

Justus A

Yeah RT TV really needs to do something about him going forward. That dude just can’t help being a literal cancer to the community.

Conflictor

I mean some captains are leagues above others like kenpachi

Delgado

Ok i think the sternritters are an underwhelming villian group. This cour's pacing is also making some look worse since they're getting beaten so fast. In general I've read the manga and of all 26(?) members only about 8 are memorable. Of the ones we've defeated so far in this anime, the only good ones were As nodt and gremmy. Kubo has made great villians like aizen and ulqiorra before which is why it's disappointing that the final villian group mostly sucks

Justus A

You know what's kinda deep about that episode though? Mayuri looks at the camera and says "May we please get Ahsoka episodes 4-5 already"

Damian Wayne™

Never feel discouraged or afraid to express yourself just cause you know most people most likely won’t be receptive of it, as much as we’re fans of Bleach, we know there’s either some loose threads, or that certain characters that are a little to subtly written that could be better conveyed for general audiences. So go right ahead, you’re more than free to explain it.

Conflictor

It’s all part of the job and they get there get back anyways.

Conflictor

Enjoyed this ep for Mayuri but I have an honest criticism about the sternritters, don't know it I should explain

Justus A

Damn Soul reaper captains stay getting violated

Delgado

Damn that’s crazy, especially when I know Garnt is not really a fan of Bleach…

Conflictor

For any Bleach hating OPtards that come on here https://youtu.be/N6nNM8-bH4M?si=OVT8beOfPmtvhmMR&t=2770 even one of your own kind is saying it. It’s time to stop.

Awakened

lol they deleted his comment. good but then again damn because my reply i was going off on him but its all good i just need to ignore. Exrial you dumb bitch thats what you get. Now stfu

Tingz

Mayuri the goat of bleach 💯

DW

The biggest bleach fan of us all, lmao he got removed

MrDeclareWar

OP 🤝 Bleach fans shitting on Exrial, goated episode and it's not just bleach animators but JJK animators were getting shit too. These people are no life twitter trolls hence why they got overshadowed by the #Thank_you_to_all_bleach_Staff which is trending.

MrDeclareWar

And with that, The Soul Reapers getting there get back in blood, along with the red sky symbolizing it…..comes to an end. Love the little extensions with Byakuya taking out those 3 Quincys, just like Ichigo had against the Bambies Holy forms that wasn’t shown in the manga. This wasn’t even a priority Ep yet they knew they had to go hard on it for the climax just like they did for EP 18, meaning these next 3 Eps (the last of which will be a high priority ep) are gonna be just like Eps 19-21, possibly even better. Bleach really said ANOTHER ONE.

Conflictor

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