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Work in Progress Map

EDIT: Added RL locations for rough scale.

From Cartographybird/ Rachel Ward, here is the current work in progress map of the Crimson Phoenix continent.

Please note its extremely WIP nature, most of the names are placeholders.

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Ducking Awesome cant wait to ponder the finished product whenever a place is named or gone too

ItWasIDIO!!

The map really doesn't show where are all the cities are, just forest.

Jeff

So roughly half the size of the united states which 3.8milion square miles

Edward hollowell

Good to know! but for us ignorant foreigners - we get our info from Google so... until that changes people will still call it by the colonial invaders name. A shame really because Uluru sounds so much cooler!

ABTelford

Calling it Ayer's Rock carries connotations that one is a racist d*ckhead. Just some useful information for foreigners

Guy L.

I can't see anyone else making this comment, so I'll just let you know, "Ayer's Rock" is the wrong name for the massive rock formation in Australia, it's correct name is Uluru (oo-la-roo).

Guy L.

Where is the Imperial Capital located?

Anghwrtais

Minor quibble: when the Soaring Heavenly Isles airship was flying to help Gramps, it was described as flying across the Howling Fang Mountains, then over Pale Moon Lake ... then was ordered to CONTINUE North to Verdant Hill. But thr HFM is East of the Azure Hills. I understand that even with flying they might not fly straight there, they need landmarks and there are air currents. But when the ship flys of PML City, shouldn't it TURN North?

Truedragon5374

Questions about phoenix empire & the azure hills. Regarding the memory crystal. Shen Yu mention it contained knowledge of the arrays empowering the current Phoenix emperor. But this confuses me : The vast Empire & it's royal castle is a separate entity from the Azure hills, no? and the memory crystal contains only Local knowledge of the hills. so why would it seem like emperor of old took over the the royal castle of the azure and claimed it as his home?

Aune

I was super happy to get audiobook 4 today!

Alex Ingraham

The Entire Azure Hills was hidden, rather than just a city/ city state sized area.

Casualfarmer

According to the crystal lore Azure Hills should be a lot bigger than that. It was mentioned that when the empire came accross it after the demons were driven back that the area was the biggest self contained area ever seen and they were excited to see what wonders laid in store, but then it was an qi void.

Alan McBrayer

Im confused about the Phoenix Empire and the mention of the memory crystal of verdant Hill containing the secrets of their arrays, valuable enough that a coup is possible. Was under the impression that each province(self contained realm) before the mist separating them failed.

Aune

For the entertainment value... though that would only be our entertainment if you could somehow live streamed the process and we'd get to watch Bi De and the others being frustrated in your place. :D

Christie Shaub

But they also work in that those empires would be cohesive for a few generations. With how long cultivators can live and them being the ones in power, they are still in that few generations thing. Isn't the current Phoenix Emporer like the 3rd, meaning following the British/Roman pattern he should mostly be good but the next one is in trouble of major upset (ignoring story potential changing things). However I could be wrong on my RL history if so feel free to correct me.

Christie Shaub

That's really cool! Thank you! Bigger than Eurasia + Africa. Where exactly in Raging Waterfall Gorge is the Cloudy Sword Mountain? Given the size you've mentioned it should be visible on the map

Sivartius .

Both the british and the Roman empire are bad examples they were unsustainable... heck even the chinese empire colapsed under the strain of its sheer size several times in history. Now imagine an empire the size of our world were myriad of culture and even worse the ego's of cultuvators are all pulling at its seams for recources. The army would be continiously deployed to stomp down rebellions. And its not a matter of sects (plural!) Of immortal butocrats (i want to see that DAO that compels them to that job). Its a manpower broblem. Look at the US/China/Russia all of them are large countiies in the modern age that have burocacies that devour massive amounts of their own output. Now imagine one the size of earth stuck in feudal times.

Valadius

There was a map put out earlier that showed the parts of the Empire Jin traveled through, from Crimson Crucible City to his farm in the north of the Azure Hills. It had dots for everything you mentioned except the Empire's Capital. I have no idea where in the entire empire that's located.

Mark Greenberg

I have been wondering about the Azure Jade Expedition. Why do they treat it as if they are going to foreign and unexplored lands? Aren't they simply going to other provinces? Chyou even mentioned going through sea to the south, but I have always found it strange. Shouldn't it be a caravan through land to the provinces in the south? There's just no way that they are trying to be going to another continent. They could not possibly survive that voyage with only mortals and low-level cultivator guards. Besides, there should be no reason to go as far as another continent when the Azure Hills is a small part of the Empire and there's a huge variety of produce in other lands, as evidenced in how Xiulan got the potatoes from Yellow Rock Plateau and Bi De got a lot of berries, fruits, and vegetables from the Howling Fang Mountains. I'm guessing the plan for that expedition is to go along the Western Coast to reach the southern provinces?

Caoimhín

The British empire wasn't that much smaller and they did not have administrators living centuries or millenia keeping things stable.

Rene Christensen

I notice that Veiled Moon Moor is next to Black White Grove. Sounds a lot like Pale Moon before the Mist Wall fell.

Spencer Miller

look up the Roman Empire and how much of the world they controlled

Justus Saucedo

I think you are judging them by a country government. It's an empire, with a more decentralized system. Heck, the British Empire had possessions around the globe. With oceans and other governments in the way, and no transmission stones to help tie it together.

Seaspike

What I mean, is that forest, desert are clear delimited area, such as it can be considered "one territory" when in our world, the color are much more fragmented and varied. For river it is even more visible, they have confluences, and basins, they are not a single squiggly string. That they have no such things here can make us think that it is indeed a small island with little rivers.

Arlano

MAPS, MAPS, MAPS!

Angua de Blubb

So question for ya. We have had two big tournaments. Are we going to possibly have a Ha Qi tournament at dueling peaks? Because I believe that would be amazing. And Jin teaching them “we will rock you” would be beautiful.

Synova Vitale

That was an incursion into the demon realm itself through a portal not a fog wall iirc The fogwalls only really appeared in Xiaoshi's and Tianlan's Story.

Hasenearl

There is big and hen there is unreasonably big. Yes xanxia worlds are ofthen bigger but that right there just strains suspension of disbelief. A country that size would collapse under the strain of inefficent burocracy. Make the whole thing the size of africa that would be big enough

Valadius

What a labor of love this is! But I hope you also get to take a real break!! 🫣🤗

Angel

Simple. Something something, qi. Haha. *hand waving intensifies*

Npad11111

I know a few games that have really good map/world generators like Dwarf forthress, but you would need someone with a lot of free time and really good at adding the parameters for the map to be generated as you want it https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Advanced_world_generation

Tony

If that is one continent and encompasses the entire land mass of Earth which is 30% of the entire surface area of the earth, considering if he decides to make 5 continents that are roughly equivalent in size, then add let's say, 50% of the surface area is water, it would make that world 3 times the size of earth. Which would be reasonable and still somewhat acceptable scientifically. The whole problem with making a planet the size of Jupiter is that the gravity of a planet that size would make it impossible for land animals to survive on that world. Even being gas, Jupiter has a gravity that is 2.5 times the strength of earth. If it had solid throughout the crust, mantle, and core, it would have a gravity 300 times the strength of earth. Meaning the air pressure would be 300 times what ours is, and water pressure also. Basically, only plants would be able to exist on that planet. Movement would be too difficult for insects and animals. Even muscle with the same tensile strength as spider silk wouldn't be anywhere near strong enough to walk around on the surface.

Travis Holley

Don't forget that you once said there are places that are bordered in fog and on the other side of that fog is the land where the demons come from. I know that was when you were talking about the expansion of the empire to the entire continent, but weren't there still places that bordered the demon lands? I thought that was where Shen Yu went to fight that one imperial level demon before he got to go see Jin....

Travis Holley

Will there be more detailed map of the area of interest? farm location, grass sea, dual peaks, dragon vein formation. etc

Jahith_Voice

Why would we not see other continents Yulong is heading to the dragon continent now, I figure we MiGHT get an interlude or three as the HDS regroups/rebuilds...plus Wa shi may be going to the southern continent looking for cacao...and coffee..so never say never..even though you write it, inspiration might just go hog wild on your creative juices.

Len

No. It is a single contienent. There are other contienents. The world is bigger than earth. The CPE's borders are "the contienent" . We will likley see little if any of the other continents.

Casualfarmer

chat GPT is the literal worst program possible to produce a map. Why would I waste my time with hundreds of thousands of generations to get an image that would stil need a hundred hours of personal editing to get something a fraction as good as this?

Casualfarmer

No, it does not.

Casualfarmer

Tbh, it’s been so long since I read that, I totally forgot. Still no memory of it even though you reminded me lmao. I am goldfishing so hard 😭

Amadhe

So the crimson phoenix empire is the whole world? Where are it's borders?

StarBat

I lov e the maps the scla is useful. I played a 6perks that let you tellaport to maps that exist and back. I might have chosen this map. But not first because the location is semi random. A little dangerous for me with out powers

Lane J. LaVanaway

Tbf the story does say that current world is a bunch of different ones mashed together.

Comeback Kid

How am i supposed to know scale without a banana?

Satanael

Map is cool. The biomes are all over the place though, lmao. Though it’s a map of a magical world of fantasy almost gods, so biome fuckery is to be expected. In fact, it makes it even better Worldbuilding imo. (Make mistakes into canon lmao!!!) P.S. Unless it was intentional, then your Worldbuilding skill is over 9000!!!

Amadhe

Feed the files for books 3-5 into ChatGPT and ask it to generate a map based on the text. Add a prompt with the 5 specific points mentioned by @Rake1810. Then handdraw what you really wanted.

Daniel Barnhizer

It's clear that this came from a map maker program, and that's fine, it's a way to get a rough first draft that can be corrected and brought up to snuff. Don't be afraid to futz around with stuff like this and have fun. Can't wait to see what this turns into!

jord

I'm sorry to say but while your story writing is amazing... map making is not a strong point. I think if you handmade one, or maybe made a list of locations and geographical points of interest, then fed it to chat GPT to generate loads of images and picked the best one?

Meh

Thanks for adding the continents for scale. Now we need 5 specific points on that map, Crimson Crucible City, the Capital of the Empire (can't remember the name), Pale Moon Lake City, Grass Sea City and Verdant Hill

Rake1810

How big is the planet CF? usually xianxia planets are huge. Cradle's planet is as big a jupiter iirc.

Npad11111

Love the dedication but dang bro enjoy your break you paused the patreon and uploaded twice enjoy the holidays

this will work

Looks HUGE to me, lol. Zoom in on the Azure Hills. Its such a tiny little section, and it contains most of the big cities and places we have read about. It has a sea of grass that takes mortals multiple days of travel to cross. The breadth of the province takes multiple weeks to cross. And its so teeny tiny. By that scale, it would take multiple years to reach the other end of the continent in just a 1 way trip. Easily 2 or 3, if not more, just 1 way, based off the travel times we have been told for within the Azure Hills.

Emily Gurnavage

Ok, so azure hills is 6 Texas/ 3 Alaska, roughly, in size. Or half of Australia.

Seaspike

To put that into perspective, that would be the size of Kazakhstan. I think it's easier to imagine that way, at least if you look it up on Google Maps.

Michael

From the descriptions, the continent to the "north" is more like traveling from North America to Asia by way of the North Pole.

Seaspike

Fabulous! Maps are the BEST!!!

Laura Hemly

What it is missing is a distance scale. That would put the size in better perspective and remove the small look feels you are getting.

Seaspike

MAPS, MAPS, MAPS!

Truedragon5374

Oh wow! 😮That map is massive!

Kt-x

I love maps! I love them!!!

Wingless

Agreed with you wanting more forest and little river, because as it is, the continent looke quite small.

Arlano

Yay!! My A.D.D is jumping for joy. Love visual’s!!

Synova Vitale

The Azure Hills is ~2.7 million square kilometers, or 1.7 million square miles.

Casualfarmer

Ooh! Aah!! This is so cool to see your notes too! Is there another continent to the north? Love how you have so much world building and we've seen such a tiny part! Can't see Jin traveling much, but feel like we could see a lot through Bi De's eyes if you keep going long enough. Thanks for sharing!

Benji

I like it so far. Love me a good map to go with a story. Since its a heavy WIP still - is the current scale at all accurate-ish? I knew the Azure Hills was a smaller out of the way place, but that is SO small compared to the rest lol. And it takes weeks for a mortal to travel just the AHs, let alone the rest of that massive kingdom? Goddamn. I suppose Xixania worlds are always either mind bogglingly huge or head scratchingly tiny (in which case it turns out to be a cage/nursery/etc usually). Whats-her-face with the whats-their-face-trading-company gonna have their work cut out for em on that exploratory journey south.

Emily Gurnavage

Agreed. No one calls it that anymore.

PickledTink

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been agonizing over a crude version of this map for ages now. WIP or not, this feels hugely relieving and satisfying.

Ormus Von Orbulon

Ah world building. Gotta love it

leopard eye

Thanks for sharing before it’s done! Appreciate seeing the draft/work in progress stuff :)

Adam Boshcoff

From the telling of the big phoenix empire, this should be one province of like 50, right?

Khress

Let's go! Love the world building

K1NG_CHIMP

Even as a published (to your Patreon) first pass that’s really well done. Thanks!

Rake1810

Cool. I can't wait!

Andrew Denton

Very cool! Is there a canon scale yet? I think you've posted before that the Azure Hills were roughly the size of the continental US, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

Michael W

Love it! The scale and size of the empire is staggering

Ham

Just a really quick note of no consequence whatsoever - Ayers Rock is more properly called Uluru these days.

Cyrus McEnnis

Neat. Thanks for this.

Pierce Hodges

We got a map!

WarStrider72


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