WATCH ALONG: Angel S2 E 15
Added 2025-06-18 17:00:08 +0000 UTC
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Note: Angel started out, with Doyle and soon also Cordelia, in the business of saving souls. It was an individual thing: someone is in horrible demonic danger, Doyle has a vision, Angel & co. go and solve the problem. Now Angel has morphed into someone who wants to destroy evil (if you like anime, like Kiritsugu in Faith/Zero). The problem with him is that he got more ambitious: rather than saving one soul at a time, why don't I save all of them, by attacking the central office of soul destruction, Wolfram & Hart itself? But if evil is a potential component of all people, that would mean destroying all people as well. And if he does that... doesn't he also become evil... even without having a moment of 'perfect happiness'?...
Sergio Meira
2025-08-12 00:06:27 +0000 UTCI guess the reason why this is my favorite episode of Angel (with the next one being a close second) is the question it raises: If you can't get rid of evil because evil is also in people's hearts, then what is the point of fighting evil? You're fighting a magic weed that always regenerates itself. Plus, Hollander manages to make it look like evil is our most important part (that's what makes him so good as a devilish figure, as Satan to Angel's Mephistopheles: he is just so seductive, so alluring...). Yes, indeed: what IS the point of fighting evil, if evil is everywhere? You can't destroy evil. It's a bit like saying that, since a water molecule contains two atoms of hydrogen (and one of oxygen), you cannot destroy all hydrogen in the universe without simultaneously destroying all water in it. Likewise, you can't destroy all evil in the universe without simultaneously destroying all people that exist, since evil is a component of who they are. So what's the point? Yes, what indeed...
Sergio Meira
2025-08-11 23:59:17 +0000 UTCYa, even though we get Angel/Buffy crossovers here and there. The two shows really try to stand on their own, as they progress. In my opinion, It would kind of undermine Angels character if he had to keep asking Buffy for help. Lets also keep in mind, that Buffy is currently dealing with a lot in Season 5.
Justin Falcon
2025-06-23 06:49:51 +0000 UTCAll of the comments before this.... all good points!!! :)
ssb031
2025-06-21 02:56:35 +0000 UTCI love this episode; especially the moment in the elevator. Sam Anderson, who plays Holland Manners, plays that character with the perfect amount of smarm. I grew up watching him as the principal on Growing Pains, so this was a change in character that took a little getting used to, but now I can't help but think of him as Holland. And that scene between Holland and Angel and so simple, but effective. Holland being the devil on Angel's shoulder, sowing just enough doubt and presenting the world as hell. Which is so plausible. And if it is, then what's the point of any of it? What's the point of fighting or helping someone? Or at least, that's what Angel's left to wonder. David plays that moment so well too. Just dropping the glove and walking back to the hotel, taking in everything that perspective of just utter hopelessness. Then on top of that, everyone else is going through it too.
Stargazer1682
2025-06-20 02:05:17 +0000 UTCYa, I think the point was trying to convince Angel, evil always exists, it will always exist, its everywhere in different doses, so there is no point in trying to fight against it. Like pissing in the wind.
Ian A
2025-06-19 02:31:12 +0000 UTC
