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Monogatari Episode 20 Reaction

Kaiki is hands down the best character!

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bro..

Lucy Steel

Nadeko's Godly thighs and delicious flat chest are so expertly crafted, so artisanally designed!! The beautiful white dress that teases us with every flutter of wind and every time she leans down!! :pray: Godly!!!

Skeletan

LET'S GOOOOOO "PEACE PEACE" IS HERE BABYYYY

Oisif

Yes thats what we meant, without going back and looking (thats cheating) just off of what we remember ☠️☠️

Vanesa Georgieva

Every arc has the date on which it takes places mentioned, so putting together a timeline would be easy. But I want to see you squirm, so I want you to try to put the timeline together from memory, without the dates πŸ‘Ή

My abba taught me a few things too, like how to rip the skin off by using my own mouth

Those are some good points. I think one major reason Kaiki is so well received at this point - and also why Hanekawa tends to irk people (before she finds herself in Tsubasa Tiger) - is related to the "prescription," as you described it. Hanekawa essentially uses the prescription in the opposite way Kaiki does; she uses it to avoid being true to herself and becomes even more pretentious as a result, while Kaiki at his core is always true to himself and has no qualms about whatever prescriptions/methods he has to take in order to achieve this. His blatant honesty in his motivations, which we are now more privy too, is refreshing and charming despite being hidden among deception.

Russell Gambardella

You guys got most of it that you could be reasonably expected to get :) not much I want to get into yet in the middle of the flow of this story. Chronological tier list sounds fun but I'm undecided if it would be best to wait til the end or not. Patiently waiting for more, that cliffhanger was diabolical XD

Jaron Clark

Shinobu at full power cannot happen while Araragi is still around without them both going full vampire again. which if they did that, they’ll then be considered threats to people and Kagenui/Gaen will likely hunt them down and Araragi would also lose his humanity. If she theoretically was Kiss-Shot again though, she definitely would win against Sengoku. Senjougahara told her as much at the end of Otori β€œif you kill Araragi first, Shinobu will eat you up, so you have to kill shinobu first” was her advice that she used prior to bargaining with her for the 6months. Also, would love to see you guys create a timeline. Can give you an answer key too if you want based solely on what you’ve seen so far.

Oshi

For a lot of Kaiki's ethos I think back to the conversation about Hanekawa and self-righteousness. She does the right thing because its a prescription for goodness, not because she "is good". She doesn't acknowledge the danger of goodness. Araragi acknowledges the danger of acting good, but does it anyways. He's Mr. Good Guy, an ally of justice. I think back, too, to the conversation about Kagenui/Oshino/Kaiki on the nature of real vs fake. Kaiki says that the fake, having taken effort to be seen as real, is what makes it the most real. In a similar way, Kaiki sees the danger of acting good, and performs evil to keep himself and those important to him safe. In his view of fake/real, does not this arc and his deliberate attempt at goodness make him the most good guy of them all? :P Honestly though, idk how much those thoughts are directly connected plotwise, but certainly their underlying philosophy is as it relates to Kaiki's view of the world. He's such a complex but understandable character. At first you're like "fuck this guy and his deception." But once you know his angle, he's honestly incredibly transparent. Tsundere Kaiki for Best Girl <3

Tony Wegner


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