SPIES ARE FOREVER | Act 2, Parts 1-4
Added 2025-07-11 03:37:39 +0000 UTCI WAS FREAKING RIGHT???
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I hear you on that line Mortius I know what you were thinking bahahah
Skittles
2025-10-08 01:31:04 +0000 UTCMortius doing the choreo at the same time as the actual show is sooooo funny!! PAID ACTOR!!!
SpamtheTree34
2025-07-31 03:57:30 +0000 UTCidk I think the torture tango was plenty homoerotic
MicaXIII
2025-07-26 22:07:31 +0000 UTCI think the theme you are missing is from the part of “spy again” when Curt muses over what Owen would do “you’d put this drink down, turn my life around”
Matt Mayhem
2025-07-26 21:20:23 +0000 UTCthe 15:21 one-two punch of "doctor who reference" "autism hands" was Very Funny
Echuinith
2025-07-26 00:25:49 +0000 UTC1:00:00 WAS THAT A GAMECHANGER REFERENCE??
Kate Murphy
2025-07-20 16:48:06 +0000 UTCVisiting my best friend in Oregon this week and just getting to this since we promised to finish SAF together. The reaction to the reveal was so worth the wait, loved it.
Mahkia
2025-07-17 06:03:29 +0000 UTCAbsolutely LOVE your reaction to the reveal. It is quite insane how similar to mine it was the first time I watched it. The theorizing got me even more hyped to watch you react to you being right. Even if you see it coming, it’s wild! Loved the execution of this plot twist because it’s always right there but during a live performance you don’t have the hindsight of rewatching other bits or songs to catch all the clues.
Mythical Mar
2025-07-14 03:48:41 +0000 UTCYou were right with the little theme during Curt and Tatiana’s scene. It’s the same chord progression from Spy Again. It’s from the verse “I once was a spy, but I can’t be a spy again” making the connection between what he is saying now and how he felt right after Owen’s death and him going back to the field. He is still thinking about him and how he failed to save him.
Mythical Mar
2025-07-14 03:05:42 +0000 UTChaha love the little dr horrible ref also i caught that game changer ref-
Clementine Mesich
2025-07-12 14:33:21 +0000 UTCthank you so much for this
Enby_Ember
2025-07-12 13:40:54 +0000 UTCWe knew that reaction was going to be fun since the first episode, but it was awesome! I doubt the pre-watch claims will be too bad, either. Thing is, you really made a big deal of your theories (which was so fun, btw) and if a reactor KNEW their theories were fact, I doubt they would have drawn so much attention to their incredible prediction skills. Also, since I don't see anyone saying, I do think the underscore during Curt's backstory is a rendition of Spy Again. They definitely changed the key and slowed it down, but the overtones are there for sure. It also fits with the story Curt is telling about being afraid he won't be able to be the old Curt Mega again.
Mike K
2025-07-12 04:53:17 +0000 UTCWhat do you do after receiving this information? You rewatch torture tango and find all the sexual tension : D
Ratatosk Clarke
2025-07-12 01:52:01 +0000 UTCTechnically I was always on board but I’m extra on board.
Ratatosk Clarke
2025-07-12 01:38:34 +0000 UTCI was also a Tatiana/Barb lover but now that you have pitched Barb/Informant I am ON BOARD
Ratatosk Clarke
2025-07-12 01:30:41 +0000 UTCgoing back and watching torture tango after the reveal is always great!!!! theres a little detail of when Curt is hallucinating Owen and says his name, the DMA grabs the back of his own head to check his mask….
Violet Casella
2025-07-12 00:50:32 +0000 UTCHave to rewatch Torture Tango again! Curt and Deadliest Man Alive sing at the sane time: Curt: Doesn't even matter if I killed my best friend. DMA: To show you the horror of staying alive.
Bree
2025-07-12 00:13:07 +0000 UTC56:45 Also for the record, Barb/Tatiana is a very popular ship in the fandom, but Barb/Informant is in fact my personal favorite
S.E.W.
2025-07-11 21:12:55 +0000 UTCsince you started with the Owen theory I have been waiting for the reaction to that part and it did not disappoint. lmao. Cannot believe you figured it all out, I didn’t even suspect Owen still being alive when I watched it.
intrepiddragons
2025-07-11 21:11:36 +0000 UTCOk so this has always been my understanding of the 'subtext' in 'I guess we're doing this'.......(it aint perfect) Curt: “I’m” (gay) Curt:“You’re not my type” Tatiana: “I can Tell. So you’re into?” (guys) Curt: “Yeah” Tatiana: “Ah.” Curt: “I thought you” (were into me) Tatiana: “I wasn’t, but the mood suggested” (we were attracted to one another) Curt: “Of course. I figured when you said” (I looked cute it meant you loved me) Tatiana: “Not my intention” (top make you think that) Curt: “Good. Me neither. I just wanted” (to please you?) Tatiana: “Uh huh, so we’re just..” Curt: “Friends?”
Sophie Featherstone
2025-07-11 21:06:37 +0000 UTCGoing back to Torture Tango after this reveal really sheds new light on that song.
squirrel apocalypse
2025-07-11 20:42:51 +0000 UTCComing to the comments to say the same
Jazlyne K. Kirkman
2025-07-11 20:29:10 +0000 UTCYour reaction to the reveal was EVERYTHING! So good, made my night. Also I skip THAT SONG every time I rewatch so I don't blame you for not forcing a reaction. If they ever remount the show I hope they do something different there.
Anna Lyons
2025-07-11 20:19:01 +0000 UTCI love "Doing This"! I love the whole mutual "Oh god wait they think I'm into them? I mean... this is kinda how the genre goes, so I guess we have to if that's what they want... Oh, wait! They don't want to, they just thought I did?! Oh, thank God. Okay. Better."
Paradoxgavel
2025-07-11 19:50:29 +0000 UTCI'm gonna add comments to my comment as I think of things to say while I watch So yeah, Vladimir Poopin looks like that because the actor is still wearing his Von Nazi costume under since he has to be that character very soon after the musical number. Those are not kinky boots...
KurtzyPan
2025-07-11 19:28:49 +0000 UTCOh man I was already so excited to see your reaction when I realized parts 1-3 of act 2 where back to back bangers but you are reacting to the reveal too? This is gonna be good
KurtzyPan
2025-07-11 19:11:55 +0000 UTCLooking forward to Mortius' watch of Starship one of these days!
White Tiger
2025-07-11 18:10:00 +0000 UTCHehe and yes, "Doing This" is one of my favourite songs from this musical. Whether it's someone from Team Starkid or someone else......... actually, let me check. "Talk Fine Spies Are Forever is a musical by the Tin Can Bros, with music and lyrics by Talk Fine (Clark Baxtresser and Pierce Siebers)15. The musical follows the suave, yet arrogant, Agent Curt Mega as he works to foil a plot to rebuild the Nazi empire" Okay, so, Talk Fine did some great work with this musical! I tip my hat to them! (If I had a hat! )
White Tiger
2025-07-11 18:02:15 +0000 UTCoh the reveal reaction did NOT disappoint haha
mellie
2025-07-11 17:09:28 +0000 UTCIt is actually Spy Again. Its the part where's he's talking about Owen. "If a spy is a spy, and I once was a spy, I think you'd want me to spy again"
ResTheMess
2025-07-11 17:08:57 +0000 UTCOkay yeah, I’m definitely asking if you’re okay after that cliffhanger xD
Mica Anne
2025-07-11 15:42:41 +0000 UTCI just need to comment really early on the video about Lauren's voice. She is so freaking talented. Her natural voice is beautiful, but I admire so much her voice character, and there's one character in a musical I will not mention cause you're going to watch it someday, this character has a specific voice, but then the character is doing another character in a fictional show and you have: Lauren singing as her character who's now singing as another character with another voice and emotion, and it's probably her best song and vocals ever
Lex Villagrán
2025-07-11 14:55:32 +0000 UTCI watched the show a few times, then I recommended it to a friend, my friend show it to her sister... and her sister was the one who realized that! We both felt stupid
Lex Villagrán
2025-07-11 14:45:09 +0000 UTCLove how you missed all of the "I guess this is what we do as a girl and a guy" part of the song
Snoozey Bear
2025-07-11 14:09:05 +0000 UTCTypically when one random audience member plays along it is Darren. I know he's the one that says "I don't think so" to the Princess in Twisted
Allison Watts
2025-07-11 14:01:42 +0000 UTCTo be fair, the fact that the show is gay spies is kind of a spoiler and that's all he knew going into it. If you know they're gay, then it's easier to notice that Curt and Owen are an item and you want them back. He was very much coping by trying to see Owen in everyone, but DMA is the only one that has real possibilities/foreshadowing. It makes sense that he clung to that one over the other random coping
Allison Watts
2025-07-11 13:57:57 +0000 UTC100% it was Spy Again lol
fluffybuddy1
2025-07-11 13:32:31 +0000 UTC"Don't be look marvelous, isn't it gay?" "IS IT???" and "Change of plans, Mr. Deadliest Man" "NONONONO MY PRINCE!!" you have never been more relatable 💀
S.E.W.
2025-07-11 13:21:25 +0000 UTCStarship has the best love song and I will die on this hill.
Allison Watts
2025-07-11 13:19:52 +0000 UTCI'm sure someone has already pointed it out, but that instrumental is the end of Spy Again. After he reads Cynthia's note. circa 6:00 "If a spy is a spy, and I once was a spy, I think you'd want me to spy again"
Allison Watts
2025-07-11 13:14:32 +0000 UTC16:56 MOOD
Robin
2025-07-11 13:03:35 +0000 UTCHaven’t watched the video yet, but I feel the need to ask if you’re okay. That thumbnail is the face of a mad man xD
Mica Anne
2025-07-11 12:23:12 +0000 UTCSame, but what if it had been the dog being shot.
Corvacks
2025-07-11 11:46:55 +0000 UTCYou are not crazy, I also caught that reference Brand New Day is one of my favourite songs from Dr Horrible
Corvacks
2025-07-11 11:44:20 +0000 UTCSomething interesting to note, when DMA is giving the “Personal history” line, it is actually Joey saying the line offstage and Joe Walker (DMA) is just mouthing the words.
Lizzy C-Drake
2025-07-11 10:39:58 +0000 UTCJust a fun fact, I believe the Prince was played by a different person every night, notably once by a dog. The person who does it in the recorded version is I believe Corey Lubowich - one of the writers and I think when they say "first public appearance" about the prince, it is also Corey's first time on stage? Doing this is a song about the spy cliche of the guy and the girl always having to get together. "I'm a girl" "I'm a guy" "It's meant to be because we're both spies". But then flips it on its head and actually they don't have to do this. What the actual characters go through: Tatiana touches his hand and says "Maybe you'll find a new partner". She thinks partner means spy partner, because that's how Curt described Owen. So she's suggesting she can be his new spy partner. Curt thinks, she wants to be my new romantic partner, like Owen was. I should probably go with it, because that's what a heterosexual spy would do and pretends to like her. Tatiana picks up on Curt thinking about them together, thinks "oh, he likes me", i should probably pretend to like him back and we can have a relationship, because that's what always happens between spies. We get "Doing this". After the kiss, Tatiana decides that she can't pretend to like kisses like that. Translation of the SUBTEXT :) Curt: I'm [gay]. You're not my type. Tatiana: I can tell. So you're into [guys]? Curt: I thought you [were flirting with me/wanted to be in a relationship] Tatiana: I wasn't. But the mood suggested [that you were thinking of me romantically.] Curt: Of course. I figured when you said [that I'll find a new partner, that you meant that romantically] Tatiana: Not my intention (I meant it just as spy partner. I don't like you like that.) Curt: Good, me neither (I also don't like you like that). I just wanted [to make you happy? do what was expected?] (it could be any number of things here)
Veronika
2025-07-11 10:14:38 +0000 UTCThere’s a reason I call this gay James Bond Golden Eye 🤣🤣
Kyra
2025-07-11 10:14:14 +0000 UTCI SCREECHED at the Dr. Horrible reference! I know you've seen it already but if you were ever to do a re-watch, I'd SO be here for it!
Jay Gardos
2025-07-11 09:31:32 +0000 UTCAnd Kaylee knew what she was doing when she told you to stop recording on part 4, knowing you wouldn’t be able to wait 😂
Mikayla Prushik
2025-07-11 09:23:49 +0000 UTCThat reveal was better than I ever imagined!! That was great!!!
Mikayla Prushik
2025-07-11 09:22:08 +0000 UTCI think part of the reason the prince was portrayed the way he was, and the way they spoke about him, was to show their prejudice against those who were 'different' at that time- the 50s were notably harsh for people who were neurodivergent or gay.
♡♡DnD_With_Sammi♡♡
2025-07-11 08:42:57 +0000 UTC49 mins into watching. A) you were /so close/ with your thoughts on the Spy again reprise. It /was/ a reprise. I haven't gone to find it exactly, but it's the "put this drink down, turn my life around" & "You'd want me to spy again" slow section of it. B) Subtext for we're (not) doing this: I am certain that the subtext is that he's gay. It being the 50s, he's not going to admit that out loud, so this is basically the closest he can come to "coming out" with it still being "unspoken", ergo the actual unspoken sections of the songs "I'm [gay. Wait, can't say that, it's 1957]... you're not my type." "[oh, that means he's gay for sure] so you're into ... [wait, I can't actually ask him outright, it's 1957...]"
Rara Barnes
2025-07-11 08:13:34 +0000 UTCI'm not surprised that you got it. You're a bright being. Make sure you rest between series! I love the Doing This song, because it shoves all the romance cliches in our and their face, and they think they should just go along. But nah, don't force yourself into a place you don't want to be, and kiss someone you don't want in that way. 'Cause it'll lead to This Talk. This is huge for Curt, because only Owen knew. He has never said he likes men aloud because of this dangerous time period, Mama Mega's expectations, and other fears. Good for him though, having support like Tatiana. My guess is that when Curt referred to Owen as his partner, he didn't mean just as spies but romantically. And when Tatiana said partner, she meant just as spies, but the mood suggested something romantic between herself and Curt (supported by Mama Mega). Attempt number two of dropping the suggestion for Mortius to cosplay as a spy. You know you want the pose, the suit, the swooning gals, blokes and all other folks. Also, aaa, the tea over-steeping!
Kory Misun
2025-07-11 08:09:26 +0000 UTCSo glad to see you reach the reveal! Happy vindication Mortius lmao
Nick Simswods
2025-07-11 07:52:36 +0000 UTCMortius: the king of overthinking. Love ya man but was genuinely tweaking during the “subtext” place
Joe
2025-07-11 07:29:47 +0000 UTCMortius your warrior of the mind is showing lol
Nola Scott
2025-07-11 07:22:18 +0000 UTCI like the beard. That with the glasses is giving Tony stark vibes.
EepLeep
2025-07-11 07:21:13 +0000 UTCYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas! Loved the reaction to the big reveal! Don't know how you got it so early on but you did! Well done! So! As it seems it must be, we eagerly await the morrow!
White Tiger
2025-07-11 06:35:15 +0000 UTCOne more shot IS a great high energy song isn't it?! :D
White Tiger
2025-07-11 06:17:33 +0000 UTC"Brand new day" Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog reference there. :D
White Tiger
2025-07-11 06:10:11 +0000 UTCCurt and Owen in the Rumpus Room! I want that song too!
White Tiger
2025-07-11 05:38:58 +0000 UTCgotta bring up the time that the Prince was played by Joey and Lauren’s dog Diane Cause it’s iconic
Lolo
2025-07-11 05:29:01 +0000 UTCYep! That's the name they gave the character. Vladimir Poopin. :D
White Tiger
2025-07-11 05:22:53 +0000 UTCAbsolutely best and most highly waited for reaction to The Big Reveal™️ of all time omg
honkceasar
2025-07-11 05:22:44 +0000 UTCI like a strong tea myself. Or coffee. I think I just generally like strong flavours.
White Tiger
2025-07-11 05:12:42 +0000 UTCHehe, I have a full beard myself. It's not so bad so long as you keep it trimmed and avoid eating bits of it with your food :D I think the worst part of growing a beard is when it's growing in and it's in that itchy in-between phase. Yeah, if you want to try it, try it! See what you think! :) Funny to talk about a beard while watching this of all musicals which features a beard earlier on! :D
White Tiger
2025-07-11 05:07:13 +0000 UTCAlso your reaction to the reveal had me losing it just as much even though I’ve seen this show like 7 times so thank you for that pure joy
Libby Femenella
2025-07-11 05:07:10 +0000 UTCThe vindication you must feel at seeing you were right. I've been waiting for you to get here to see that reveal. I adore Doing This or what I mentally refer to it as: "comp het the song." I adore MK's singing voice and she and Curt sound SO good together. One More Shot is probably one of the most hype songs in this show. It's just so much fun. I also wanted to throw out a recommendation that occured to me when you said the word agony like 5 times in a very brief time. Some of the folks from this show (and other starkid adjacent folks) did a live broadway/musicals covers show called Shitty Broadway, one of my favs being Curt and Joey doing "Agony" from Into the Woods. Also Joey doing The Confrontation from Jekyll and Hyde is worth a watch but Agony is fantastic.
Liz Siron
2025-07-11 05:06:31 +0000 UTCBeautiful to witness the discovery, I've been screaming the whole time over your theories about DMA
whisp-error
2025-07-11 05:04:45 +0000 UTCregarding the reprise at 39:30 it's section 1:14-1:30 from the song Spy again (so you were correct!!) in the scene it's from 4:00-4:25
Chris
2025-07-11 04:55:41 +0000 UTCThe last bit, I was practically screaming at Mortius to just click play! I knew that he would love the reveal!
MissDisneyChick
2025-07-11 04:53:03 +0000 UTCThe Prince is basically the Polites of this show lol
logicaldreamer
2025-07-11 04:48:09 +0000 UTCI THOUGHT SO BUT I GOT CONFUSED
Mortius
2025-07-11 04:44:54 +0000 UTCHighly endorse at the VERY least Forever and Always and Time Bastard, but the whole series is a treat and will really give insight into certain characters (and audience reactions to those characters).
Michelle Stewart
2025-07-11 04:41:56 +0000 UTC"What's the subtext?!" HE'S GAY MORTIUS
Jacob Morton_
2025-07-11 04:39:57 +0000 UTCI think the motif is from after he sits down and reads the note from Cynthia in “Spy Again” (roughly 5 mins 55 secs into the video).
Lizzy C-Drake
2025-07-11 04:32:22 +0000 UTCAlmost beards <3
whisp-error
2025-07-11 04:29:09 +0000 UTCIt is from Spy Again - "I'd put my drink down, turn my life around..." At around 5:53
Sarah Boerschig
2025-07-11 04:26:18 +0000 UTCyou were right about that motif being from spy again!! it’s from the bridge (which I definitely wasn’t screaming at my screen) the part that goes “I think you’d want me to spy again” which feels incredibly fitting
Libby Femenella
2025-07-11 04:25:54 +0000 UTCThe bisexual struggle is real
whisp-error
2025-07-11 04:24:12 +0000 UTCDR HORRIBLE BRAND NEW DAY REFERENCE?? Or am I crazy
Stella
2025-07-11 04:24:01 +0000 UTCMortius!! I’m not done with the video yet (loving it so far btw!!!), I just got to the part where you mentioned Black Friday and Nerdy Prudes Must Die (it’s that order haha). It’s not a must, but I highly highly suggest that you check out Nightmare Time in between those two shows. There is a lot of lore and jokes in that series that will improve your experience. At the very least, you should check out Forever and Always / Time Bastard and The Witch in the Web (you can skip Jane is a Car tbh) as those are both amazing episodes and lay out some good groundwork. The entire series is worth checking out BUT if want to get to Nerdy Prudes faster and still catch some fun tidbits of lore and running jokes, please watch those in between and catch up with the rest later if it interests you!! ANYWAYS. Back to the video. I can’t wait for Doing This, it’s such a funny but wholesome scene
Lindsey
2025-07-11 04:14:52 +0000 UTCSomeone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the audience member that cheered for Vanger Borschtit was Darren Criss
Addy0302
2025-07-11 04:04:47 +0000 UTCOk I had to pause at the hour mark to process "You only got one shot!" How dare you slap me with Game Changer during my Musical Reaction XD.
Cadmus Coriander
2025-07-11 04:04:26 +0000 UTCMortius: I've only had the prince for 2 minutes but if anything happened to him I would kill everyone in this room and then myself. Me (knowing what happens in this part): Oh. Oh dear. o_o
Averie-in-reverie
2025-07-11 04:00:51 +0000 UTCLove the beard! #beardtius
fluffybuddy1
2025-07-11 03:53:24 +0000 UTCSAME
Rel Coleman
2025-07-11 03:42:22 +0000 UTCJust wanted to say before I watch this that I was about to go to sleep when I saw the notification. Looks like I’ll be staying up a little longer.
Lizzy C-Drake
2025-07-11 03:41:39 +0000 UTC
