Jimmy Fallon Apologizes for Blackface (ft. Tim Chantarangsu)
Added 2020-06-03 00:35:23 +0000 UTC
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This video irrelevant #boomers
2021-03-30 12:31:17 +0000 UTC
For the future why not just have a black host when discussing what is and isn’t racist to black people. lol having Steve, Bart and Joe saying it’s not racist doesn’t do anything.
2020-07-19 16:15:45 +0000 UTC
I think impersonating to the point where you literally change race is not okay even in comedy. Jimmy Fallon is an extremely privileged white man who does not face the real consequences of being black, he gets to wipe it off and go back to a privileged life. I have a sense of humour I can understand it may be funny but there are people suffering the consequences of being black and simply painting yourself black for ‘fun’ takes away from that fact. Relating back to other events in which people impersonated others and changed races doesn’t really help the argument, it is still wrong.
Black people have always been underrepresented in media, yet it is okay to perform black face when they need to fill a gap or make a ‘skit’ or ‘joke’. Thats some bullshit. We appreciate your comedy and you bring us a lot of joy but not everything is okay for the sake of Comedy.
2020-06-14 03:00:23 +0000 UTC
You have really valid points and I do agree with you. Honestly, I also feel like the JK crew are coming from a perspective that all people are equal and I wish we lived in that world of every culture/race could poke fun at each others differences in this way with respect that didn't equate to some being less than. Sadly, we are not there yet. It is encouraging that this is a conversation and I believe this behavior is being called out and it is no longer be accepted but frustratingly that change takes time. I think everyone (with a brain) can whole heartily agree, what can no longer wait is the systematic racism being taught in our schools, being protected/enforced in our laws and non-poc being open to uncomfortable conversions like this. Don't know if this adds anything to your points but I hope it made sense.
2020-06-12 14:42:32 +0000 UTC
Intentions matter, but they matter less than the impact. Impersonation can be done without changing your skin colour or taping your eyes, like with the Prince example, if a white person was wearing Prince's classic outfits and singing Prince songs, you can tell its a Prince impersonation without the skin colour change. You can do Andrew Yang impersonation without taping eyes, just wear a math hat and talk about UBI. JK hates "cancel culture", but clearly no one actually is getting canceled; most "canceled" people still have their jobs and audience, but they get called out, and hopefully, learn from it. Please educate yourselves.
2020-06-11 21:38:25 +0000 UTC
Robert Downey Jr; Tropic Thunder. Richard Lazarus. Classic, epic. Acceptable, it seems. For context.
Jon Henri Matteau
2020-06-07 19:06:51 +0000 UTC
There should be a statue of limitations on thing like this. 20 years ago everything was that way. Not saying it’s okay but times were different and we are growing as a culture and no longer doing things of this nature.
2020-06-05 20:47:31 +0000 UTC
People are entitled to their opinions. Everyone gets offended or emotional about things that are sensitive to them. A Roman King killed and crucified a man because he was overly sensitive and threatened by a man calling himself a king. That man was Jesus. In the 1950s the National Guard had to be called to the southern states because people where terrified of a black boy sitting next to a white girl in a school classroom. Getting offended and overly sensitive and/or overreacting is nothing new.
2020-06-05 02:46:20 +0000 UTC
Someone having a different opinion than you is not weakness. Being able to accept and respect their opinion is a strength and sign of maturity. That's what I appreciate most about JK fans. Here people actually have discussions and are able to disagree with each other and the JK Crew without insulting or following along with others like sheep.
2020-06-05 02:42:19 +0000 UTC
Think about it or research the history.
2020-06-05 02:37:18 +0000 UTC
Bunch of weak minded snowflakes on ur patreon, thought ur fans were dope jk? Nvm yall got a bunch of beta snowflakes that cant take jokes lol imagine thinking black people are living in worse conditions than muslims around the world.
2020-06-04 22:16:38 +0000 UTC
Then stop paying for their patreon if its unacceptable. They are already educated they dont have to force themselves just because u are upset. Nothing said in this video was false/incorrect. Just because ur upset doesnt mean ur correct and they are wrong.
2020-06-04 22:10:57 +0000 UTC
It is black face. Saying he was just impersonating one person doesn't take away from that. If he was that good at impersonating Chris Rock he wouldn't have needed to paint himself black. Steve's example of Dave Chappelle as prince doesn't even correlate to this. If Jimmy had just dressed up in an outfit from one of Chris rock stand ups (for example) then no one would be offended, in fact it might have actually been funny. Dressing up as him and painting your skin a different color are two different things. The origin of black face was both an over-exaggeration of black people and used to make fun of black people, people that were seen as lesser than an almost barbaric. The commentary of this video just isn't making sense to me. Honestly, none of the comparison used in this videos are comparable and just attest as to why you can't always group poc experiences.
Molly Yemi
2020-06-04 16:32:46 +0000 UTC
While I do understand where you guys are coming from, I think this commentary definitely needed a black persons' perspective. I'm not expecting that one guest to speak for the entire black community, I just think it would make for a more well-rounded discussion.
2020-06-04 10:16:27 +0000 UTC
When its during the pandemic, they can't.
2020-06-04 07:01:38 +0000 UTC
Looks got to me this was 20 years ago where everyone thought it was ok. Because of today’s climate and everyone’s hurt feelings because everything has to be offensive today. I bet if these people from today was to watch any movie or any comedy skit they will always be offended. Win for SJW yes.
2020-06-04 06:17:20 +0000 UTC
Y’all really love talking about Black problems but never have a Black person on the vid.
2020-06-04 05:51:55 +0000 UTC
What about the Wayne's Brothers doing White Chicks? LOL!
2020-06-04 04:07:22 +0000 UTC
you guys should try to bring longbeachgriffey on he makes short skits on YouTube
2020-06-04 02:41:36 +0000 UTC
I think closet one that put them self in black community shoe is joe, I get his perspective more out of anyone else, the rest of the cast are great people but I my opinion joe dose relate more
2020-06-04 01:18:45 +0000 UTC
Even them putting this on Patreon they must known that is going to be a touchy subject and I think for this article they should had a tahir or another black persons in the room to get there perspective,
2020-06-04 01:14:55 +0000 UTC
I don’t think Jamie foxx talk for all black people
2020-06-04 01:08:53 +0000 UTC
Maybe, but Jamie Foxx also said the same thing so it felt less of a "white perspective" and more of a "comedian perspective." And even if Jamie is just one voice against many, it's way too tiring cancelling people at the drop of a hat because of something you misunderstood or found 10+ years ago. Imagine someone yellng at you for something you did 10+ years ago, despite you being a different person now. Cancel culture is so toxic and leaves no room for growth. I'm half black and I can't focus my attention on this with the everything else that's going on, but I get why the rest of the black community would take offense to it since it is weird to look at. It's just that way too many people look at things at face value instead of trying to get the full scope of it.
I mean, people were trying to cancel Lana Del Rey over a huge misunderstanding (if you don't know, Lana criqued the music industry, but because she happened to mention black artists, people took it as her bringing down black women because they can't read). One person brought up that she dated a cop. 1. Imagine dating someone in the past and people try to base your character off that person even though you're not with them anymore. There's a reason they broke up... 2. I asked if the cop she dated was one of the corrupt ones that are racist against black people. Tbh, I was being a little cheeky, but I was still asking if the cop Lana dated was one of THOSE cops because I was actually trying to look into it. This is when you know you got someone who can't admit that they're wrong because this dumbass could not answer, so she said I was insulting her, started calling me a racist supporter, tried to gaslight me into saying she did answer. I just blocked her dumbass. So, you have people that are understandably upset, but then you have people that can't critically think for shit and think everything is an attack against them.
If people are reasonable and give good insight, I can get their side. Someone pointed out here that you don't have to paint your skin to mimic someone, the jokes should be good enough already. That makes more sense (and I agree) than going on your gaslighting and guilt-tripping bullshit because someone questioned your logic. Although I do wish they had a black guest on here.
2oV
2020-06-04 01:04:50 +0000 UTC
Kinda wish Antoine was in here for these topics. Everything he says is smart af but I get not everyone can make it to the shoots.
Whitney Williams
2020-06-04 00:08:32 +0000 UTC
I don't think they should cancel him, BUT the skin tone is too much for me. You don't have to put the color in order to impersonate.
2020-06-03 22:58:41 +0000 UTC
I think he was trying to point out wearing the look of the person being impersonated rather than the race of who was being impersonated in that example.
2020-06-03 19:28:04 +0000 UTC
I appreciate videos like this because i admit that when I first saw the title I was offended, but after hearing the crew's perspective I was able to see the other side. Our country is going through such a rough time and I have hope things will get better. Sending love to you all. Always love the JK crew for keeping things real with their honest opinions
2020-06-03 18:47:11 +0000 UTC
The views expressed in this video are unaccepetable on so many levels. If people who pay to see your content are calling you all out on it, take the time to educate yourselves. Please take time to try to understand how black people as a community feel about these issues.
2020-06-03 17:06:55 +0000 UTC
Theres a lot in this video to discuss but I think during a movement like BLM its important to approach situations like this with more empathy and understanding instead of defensive behavior because at the end of the day you guys are not living life as a black person in this country. Maybe if you bring a black american on your show and discuss these issues they can help you understand the perspective of the AVERAGE black person rather than the basing it off of the opinions of celebrities .
2020-06-03 16:53:47 +0000 UTC
should've done this with tahir or any other black person..
2020-06-03 16:37:04 +0000 UTC
I agree with the fact that a person may want to dress in character to have a better impersonation. However, changing your skin and facial features to imitate another race isn’t really needed to get the joke across. On top of that we live in a society where people are very ignorant and would replicate this with bad intentions. People cannot determine the true intentions of someone’s joke unless they know them or assume that is what the joke meant. I think until people become more educated and less ignorant these types of impersonations should not be done.
2020-06-03 14:11:26 +0000 UTC
The fact that the n word is the punchline is already problematic and should not even be a joke. My last comment is that if these comedians and celebrities want to be edgy and niche in their jokes, let’s hope they don’t cry when they get cancelled cause it more outrage than praise when it came to these issues imo. And as a black person in sick of swing people fight for issues that they have no business in e.g things of cultural appropriating black culture, black face, the n word etc.
Zaire
2020-06-03 06:49:12 +0000 UTC
you're right. honestly it would've been funnier if he didn't even look like karl malone at all like when kristen wiig played michael jordan
2020-06-03 06:39:08 +0000 UTC
jamie is basically saying that In Living Colour was for a specific audience and they knew you can't please everyone so from a comedian's perspective they don't want to let public's opinion stop them from doing what they think is funny because they know where their heart is at so he wants people to be understanding. Now if people disagree once they understand that, thats up to the individual who is entitled to their opinion. you're right that Jamie can't make the community think a certain way. Jamie should be clear that hes understanding too but if he meant what he said as purely a disclaimer that would be fine
2020-06-03 06:09:15 +0000 UTC
they're saying intentions matter. instances like louis ck telling a joke with the n word in it shouldn't hurt the black community because hes making fun of mark twain who was hurting the black community.
2020-06-03 05:52:50 +0000 UTC
Also, I know y'all remember when Jerry Seinfeld checked Chris Rock and Louis CK for saying the N word. No one agrees on who can and cannot say it all across the board, but we can all agree on the history of how it came to be and what it has done to hurt black people. Just sayin. It's weird to me how so many people fight so hard to do things that may hurt the black community. Very weird.
Whitney Williams
2020-06-03 04:36:53 +0000 UTC
Y’all be saying some coon as shit when it comes to anything regarding black people. Getting tired of it. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELVES
2020-06-03 04:32:06 +0000 UTC
Also I’ve just put out of some talking points. I am in no way shape of form trying to justify anyone’s actions or take away the offence people may take from this.
2020-06-03 01:51:58 +0000 UTC
I see how this became a Patreon video
Zaire
2020-06-03 01:50:30 +0000 UTC
Based of what Steve just said at 11:40. (This is just an observation btw) but if the joke was that athletes were bad at acting, so it had nothing to do with the fact that he was black. Then wouldn’t the need to darken your skin be pointless.
2020-06-03 01:46:37 +0000 UTC
Just because Jamie Fox and Chris Rock didn’t take offence to it doesn’t mean our (black) community is not offended by it. One or two people’s opinions does not constitute the whole community’s opinions. Some of us were really hurt by it. And even in the 60s people were doing black face to impersonate specific black people as opposed to the whole group but that is still blackface. It’s self explanatory and simple as that. I hate cancel culture but somethings really need to be called out so that other people don’t think it’s okay to do.
Zaire
2020-06-03 01:45:56 +0000 UTC
Ok I’m not black but putting in boots and purple clothing is not the same as putting on a skin colour. Clothing and accessories are a choice whereas skin colour is something you are born with. I believe if you are good comedian, then taping your eyes or changing your skin colour shouldn’t be means of inhancing your performance. Because despite what Dave Chappell has done. His comedy was amazing regardless. That being said, I completely agree with the fact that this isn’t being anything close to blackface if you go by the actual definition.
I also completely agree with what Jamie fox has said, this is irrelevant especially in a time like this when we as a human race need to help change the injustice that is happening to black people.
2020-06-03 01:38:08 +0000 UTC
Listen, I'm all for accepting celebrity apologies and all that bullshit. People do stupid shit all the time. I understand comedy and enjoy dark comedy and comedy that steps over that line, but if someone is sorry for what they've done then let them apologize. If you take away their apology then how does the public know they are changed and they have educated themselves on WHY the public is angry? If he takes away his apology then that's going to mean he isn't sorry for replicating something that was used to hurt us (black people) and oppress us. Yeah Jamie Fox and Chris Rock may be cool enough with him to not be offended or hurt, but not everyone is. He doesn't speak for me and it's not up to a couple of people to determine whether a community should be hurt or not. That's bullshit. No matter what field you're in. Also, you don't need to paint yourself to do a skit of someone who is black...if the comedian is good enough and if people know who he's talking about, it isn't necessary. They only did shit like that back then because they felt like they could get away with it. Normalizing black face and similar costumes just isn't it guys.
Whitney Williams
2020-06-03 01:27:16 +0000 UTC
this was nowhere near blackface
Alain Warrington
2020-06-03 00:55:42 +0000 UTC
Steve Dave Chappell impersonating prince I don’t think that’s a good argument