Animation poll winners

his points are legit, just his way of communicating them isnt :) I wrote some comments maybe he reads them, maybe not. The internet is full of people who think there opinion is the only valid one and there way is the best, im starting to get used to that :) (Which does not mean Samuel Hill is one of them. Marketing people tend to look like that, they have to market themselfes and there opinion, comes with the job i gues)

Menero

1 Doller for everytime some marketing guy tell me about "guarenteed increase in profit and customer satisfaction" and i wouldnt have to work anymore :) Marketing is a double edged sword, especially in the adult content wold. You as a merketing company owner should know that.

Menero

Oh for sure. There's exceptions to everything, and I definitely don't speak for all women. The Elana crew are already doing a pretty good job about letting people choose exactly what they'd like to see so far with the furry stuff. If for some reason a lot of guy on guy events started winning polls, I'd bet the option to skip/avoid that stuff would come up if enough people asked. Ultimately though, it's their game and we're just here to help it happen and offer suggestions.

Czeksmyx

i already wrote it above, choice is good and varianty is good, but this is knots game, and noone has any right to "demand" content. Its his Project. I personaly think its super cool of them to say "ok we add some stuff other might like". But look at the game, how would you implement that stuff? The only way i see to put more of it in there is to go and make a secound (male) character. Everything else will always be just side stuff, and adding a new character would basically mean writing a whole new game. Maybe they find a gay artist and animator to do that but on there current income i dont see that to be honest.

Menero

I know girl who watch guy on guy porn... But i do agree that there arent many :) That beeing said i am a male and im not into most lesbian porn. And i think Samuel Hill raises a good point. You should have the option to chose what you want, yet at the same time you shouldnt be forced to watch gay stuff if you dont like it. On the other Hand this is a game made by Knot Games, and its there game. Theres no moral ground to tell them what they should do or dont do. They do whatever they fell like doing and its absolutly ok that way. Noone should force you to pledge or them todo stuff they dont like :)

Menero

Im still thinking about which company he owns. I guess its a hot dog stand, hehe.

SureManWhatsUp

Dude just go start your own cartoon then. You have no idea how the resources are being used or what the cost is. You’re just making stuff up. If you don’t like it, then it’s like anything else in he freemarket. Leave. Go support something else. I think the creators would definitely change things more aggressively if they found that they were losing as much customers as you say. But you’re not the trend, you’re an outlier. Come off it. Enjoy the game, or as you said, go enjoy another one that has “far better” drawings.

Oh no, he isn't supporting any more...how sad...

Czeksmyx

yeah, the art style is the biggest problem for me, too. i dont mind guys+guys or girls+girls or whatever. (even if male+male REALLY turns me off) but if it is on a completely different drawstyle im just like "wtf is this". Anyhow, as root (correct me if im wrong but idk who actually writes over the creator account) wrote before they are working on these problems and im sure when the time is there and the major missing content is done they will replace the disney art by the good ol' root art step by step.

SureManWhatsUp

Yeah don’t need to comment anymore, enjoy.

Samuel Hill

You are but a single voice among many and while I'm sure your opinion is appreciated, it is just that an opinion many have them.

William Robbins

Its questionable to talk about bigotry etc, but in the same sentence be a hypocrite by talking down to the creator of this game that clearly many enjoy,

William Robbins

It's been fun Samuel Hill and we are glad you enjoy of such amount of free time to debate with us. Time to move on ;)

Elana Champion of Lust

But that’s good yeah? And I have said that much more then that.........😁😆🎉 So not interested in what? A great attitude and a guarenteed increase in profit and customer satisfaction? Not sure about the reasoning (god complex, micro management or maybe a bigot?) I solved your issue you would have a fantastic company replace your team of small time over paid artists. With a guarenteed return on investment. Or I could unofficially buy your business. For 4 quarterly revenue as expected.

Samuel Hill

Thanks! We are working everyday to match the disney-style art with the game main art and we think improvement been made.

Elana Champion of Lust

Thanks but we are not interested.

Elana Champion of Lust

I can replace him 52k per year part time contract 2 days a week, I will complete 5 new thought lines in a 8 hr shift or you can terminate me. I have never been fired cause I work very hard, also I own my current company.

Samuel Hill

Maybe you think we are earning a lot of money but, right now we are 5 regularly working on this project plus other people working now and then. Not every one is working 8h day because we have different situations but, at least where we live, I can assure you we can't hire anyone else. Actually we've been a couple of months under the milestone for hiring our last worker and, of course, until we don't reach and impossible situation, he will still work with us. But again... We'll do our best and that is the only thing we really promise.

Elana Champion of Lust

That is a fair point, and I took it under administration. Kill is strong if you earning 72 k per year passively that is enough for a full time artist. That is 8 hrs x 5 days. If you had a serious artist it should not impact the game at all.

Samuel Hill

But in our opinion, it's not. Your opinion matters but just like any other opinion :) As Vince77 said there is no way everyone is always happy and as we said this game is what it is. We can add some more stuff, again side stuff. If we had to add in the game all everyone wants, with in the amount of content everyone wants it would be a perfect way to kill the project. We can move inside our possibilities and plans.

Elana Champion of Lust

Mean what I mean, love that. where dose salt come into it just trying to improve a good channel talking to the people who understand is doing more then anything else I can do. I own my own Marketing firm unless you do, qualitatively my opinion is worth more then yours.

Samuel Hill

I've been supporting this game since it's early days (demo) because I really liked the main direction the game was going for, it matched my personal taste. It's fanbase slowly grew and with it these kind of demands asking more content diverging from the main ''regular for guys direction'' and more balance to appeal to more people (some of that content do completely turn me off) but I understand that people will naturally want to have more of what they like. The thing is here is that you can't please everyone at the same time, this team is really kind and is trying hard, but don't overburden yourselves with this. I will for the 100th time strongly suggest to Root and team to focus on finish their game following the direction they chose first, then expand on the various demands they receive. I think they are stretching their resources enough and adding more staff is not always the best solution. I already expressed my concerns, that the different art styles are clashing with Root's unique style which is the ''soul'' or ''identity'' of the game for me.

Vince77

Thanks for that consideration

Samuel Hill

I love how you don’t read.

Samuel Hill

Lol, I like how you keep talking about female subscribers wanting male on male content when you mean yourself. I've never heard of any women watching guy porn to get off, ever... and I know for a fact a lot of us think it's actually pretty gross. I don't actually care what you prefer, but you should at least try to be honest before using us as an excuse. I've seen your previous comments asking for it and you haven't even tried to make an event for people to vote for, so maybe you should at least try before getting all salty.

Czeksmyx

We take note and we thank you for your advise. As we said it will be more variety of content but some side content. We encourage everyone interested on this matter to comment and debate about it, though.

Elana Champion of Lust

So just letting you know the people who read this and agree won’t comment. So just cause no one else has the balls to raise the issue and yes I have big balls for good content.😆 If the issue was addressed I wouldn’t Wright another 400 words saying it isn’t. Thanks for the question about sexual liberty. So sex means cock plus cock, cock plus pussy, cock and ass either male or female and oral etc. plus is replaced with fuck. Liberty means the right to choose. The issue is that there is not enough choice with sexual orientation. If you love lesbians you should be able to do that along with the other options. I tried to get my female friends to watch this and they just can’t cause the content is not female friendly. Or bisexual friendly. Not everyone like pussy everything and an octopus fucking someone. Polls don’t solve the issue lots of your users are facing especially if the people who have the issues are the ones leaving. Your cartoon is good but there are better by far. If you addressed this issue you users might get laid by real girls cause they won’t feel alienated for wanting to hot guys to make out. It doesn’t have to be for everyone just like you lesbian content, just should be balanced. When I have a girl sucking my cock while playing, and she gets bored because the content has no way for the guards to get physical that upsets me deeply. You make more then enough to have more content creators, I could write one of these games with very little effort. But I’d rather you just fix the issues lots of people are dealing with. Like girls are above 49.6% of the worlds market. And bisexuals/curios with a gay interest are about 40% that was taken from all the curios cocks I sucked. Most of my posts get lots of responses. By only by people who take the moral high ground about 1 third. The other 2 thirds are either pussies with a penus or are to scared to respond. I’d like a girls opinion on this. Not another Nigel that calls his left hand Gale and his right Debra.

Samuel Hill

I pay 10 bucks a month because these guys do a great job and have a great development progress. If you could see other developers of this game- and teamsize you would appreciate that more i guess. Anyway, the only negative point for me is that the art style is not consistent (as i wrote somewhere before - i hate the "disney-style") and therefore it adds some negative game experiences. Anyhow, this is by far no reason to stop supporting the project as I in fact enjoy the gameplay as a whole. They have so many supporters voting and simply cannot just hear to everyone's voice. I guess you have to life with that :(

SureManWhatsUp

hey Samuel Hill, what is "liberal sex" the term got a kek out of me, but i can't for the life of me think of what that could be.

jin

As said before It's not about the money (further than to have enough to support ourselves and pay our workers). I honestly don't remember what we discussed in past because we receive from patreon, and many other sites, about 20 comments/messages a day and, as much as we try, we can't remember all of them. Your first comment, I assume, was about the amount of content which I hope It's been answered with my previously comments and your second one I assume it's about the kind of content. About this second one, we do concessions on demand. The game has a clear direction now and since the beginning, it was well known for everyone the kind of content of the game. Even so we are constantly listening what people say, adapting and including new stuff in different events while keeping the main directions of the game, this turns the development slower and slower day by day because the game turns bigger and bigger day by day. If you were referring about male on male events, there are and there will be some more, still won't be the main line of the story. There is actually one or two events suggesting this kind of content. Also once in a while we open discussion posts to suggest new ideas and discuss the most voted (with likes). We'll open one of this posts soon and, if you finally decide to remain with us, I encourage you to submit your suggestions of content and discuss them with the other patrons. In any case, thanks for you support and feedback this time so far, We hope you understand us even if you don't agree with us.

Elana Champion of Lust

Sorry you feel like this Fearless Wanderer but I can assure you we work as hard as we can which is always more hours than a regular work. Maybe It seems the development is going slowly, but this is because the game have and it's going to have a ton of content. Only on last update, we added 60+ images, a minigame, 3 half animations, 3 animations and 16.000 words of texts. We worked very hard on it and actually, in our opinion, was a good month in amount of content terms. Because of this it feels a little bad you think like this but we can't do more now. We'll do our best, as we always did and we'll always do.

Elana Champion of Lust

We are working on a free game and our biggest efforts are on it. Most of the time we can only grant early access as rewards, the exclusives once in a while, some decision power and such (and we have plenty of complains because of doing this and not focus fully on the game, even if most of the time we work on rewards beside the work time on the game). We are open to suggestions but if you want to support us, do it to support our work on the game (which this patreon is for) because we are working on do extra rewards and always thinking on what we can do as new rewards but our efforts are on the game.

Elana Champion of Lust

I am enjoying this conversation thanks for the direct feedback

Samuel Hill

Good reason to leave

Samuel Hill

So it’s about money fair enough I thought it was for the patrons

Samuel Hill

Idk, for the huge amount of patrons (= money) they get it feels like everything is going too slowly and there's not so much to enjoy. I still believe in them, but I'm starting to doubt.

Lloyd Aran

I appreciate the quick response to, I can spend $10 easy. To be honest I only subbed to support the channel. I asked for a more liberal approach to the sexuality in the game. I have no issue with the content more the lack of what I am wanting as a higher paying member. I honestly would pay $1000 a month for the content I asked for, but as you are so resistant to change it compounds the issue making me prefer to leave. Not everyone likes pussy on pussy. Especially your female followers.

Samuel Hill

Provided exclusive arts and and content, you could just do the 1$ to get the game too you know

William Robbins

I mean if thats what you believe then you're silly, in my opinion this game is one of the few that is worth it on patreon dspecially for the fact that we also are

William Robbins

Kinda thinking of unsubbing, and reasons why I should stay? 10 bucks a month is not worth the content.

Samuel Hill